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Amorda

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Weird title, I know!
Lately, I have noticed that when I am deep into an ap session (when the blackness in front of me is pitch black and endless) my consciousness will shift for a split second and I might see an scene that is so life like you would think its real. But after a second or two I get sucked back to the blackness. Last night I saw a cloudy marshland. It was raining. There was a rather large pond of gray water and I could see each droplet of rain hit the water which caused ripples just like in the physical. Detail! My question is, how do I build on this? Is it possible to sustain a scene like this?

These scenes seem to take me by suprise. And this is different from visualization for me because it feels as if I am there. There is no effort anymore. But at the same time, I keep bringing myself out of it. Haha. Any advice would be welcome. Thank you all for your words of wisdom. :)

Personally, I think it just takes me by suprise and I get excited and snap out of it.

Szaxx

The getting exited needs to be controlled.
It's an emotion that should be left in the physical like any other.
Once you master this you'll stay longer.
The scene needs some input from you. This one isn't an easy thing to react with. You could increase the drops sizes and watch the water rise, maybe form a stream to somewhere and try to follow it. Imagine seeing more adding to it to make a river. The scene should become larger until you are actually in the marshland. Then its up to you to continue onwards. With some careful thought you could end up in a boat on the river, the rain stops and you are in a sunny valley. Just an example.
The alternative is to interact then pull yourself out once you are in the scene. Your description gives the impression that once you pull out you should be in the void (F21. Label) thats a vast area of infinite blackness where you feel safe and totally relaxed. Place this in your mind before you pull out.
Your thoughts here will lead to an experience of your choosing.
This is the place where the door is opened to your desired location or questions. Self control is required and ideally a pre-determined location will already be on your mind to travel to.
Fear can run away with you here also. I hope you've mastered this one.
Its THE launchpad to the wider reality.
Enjoy the experience.


There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Lionheart

Quote from: Amorda on January 12, 2013, 12:58:05
Lately, I have noticed that when I am deep into an ap session (when the blackness in front of me is pitch black and endless) my consciousness will shift for a split second and I might see an scene that is so life like you would think its real. But after a second or two I get sucked back to the blackness. Last night I saw a cloudy marshland. It was raining. There was a rather large pond of gray water and I could see each droplet of rain hit the water which caused ripples just like in the physical. Detail! My question is, how do I build on this? Is it possible to sustain a scene like this?

Very nice, it's good to see that your practice is paying off now!  :-)

Many times I use this visual just to see how deep I am at the moment. I see drips of water hitting a leaf, then cascading down the leaf and falling into the river below. I then can see the ripples created by that drop as it hits the water. The scene is very tranquil and very real.

Here's another one you can try. When you are relaxed and feel you are about to shift, visualize a tree in the distance. All you can see is it's outline. Now focus a bit deeper on that outline and you will see that you have moved closer and can now make out the branches and a better shape of that tree. Now focus deeper and look at those branches or look at the trunk. Now you can see the leaves or the bark on the tree. Now take a better look at the entire tree, now you can make out a background in back of the tree. The sun is shining through the leaves, there could be a mountain in the background or a city. ALLOW the sense to morph. ALLOW your curiosity to roam. Don't try to create the scene, just allow it to morph into existence.

If you lose it, go back to it right away. Start again at the outline and continue. This teaches you how to just be in the moment.

It's hard to do at first because we always want to be in control. But this is a leasson in trust. Just ALLOW what happens to happen.

Enjoy it now and if you wish to, question it later!  :-)

Amorda

Quote from: Lionheart on January 12, 2013, 17:55:39
Very nice, it's good to see that your practice is paying off now!  :-)

Many times I use this visual just to see how deep I am at the moment. I see drips of water hitting a leaf, then cascading down the leaf and falling into the river below. I then can see the ripples created by that drop as it hits the water. The scene is very tranquil and very real.

Here's another one you can try. When you are relaxed and feel you are about to shift, visualize a tree in the distance. All you can see is it's outline. Now focus a bit deeper on that outline and you will see that you have moved closer and can now make out the branches and a better shape of that tree. Now focus deeper and look at those branches or look at the trunk. Now you can see the leaves or the bark on the tree. Now take a better look at the entire tree, now you can make out a background in back of the tree. The sun is shining through the leaves, there could be a mountain in the background or a city. ALLOW the sense to morph. ALLOW your curiosity to roam. Don't try to create the scene, just allow it to morph into existence.

If you lose it, go back to it right away. Start again at the outline and continue. This teaches you how to just be in the moment.

It's hard to do at first because we always want to be in control. But this is a leasson in trust. Just ALLOW what happens to happen.

Enjoy it now and if you wish to, question it later!  :-)

Awesome. Thank you for the technique! I think your right. I think a gradual build up to the moment where everything is detailed would be much better then a BOOM look at it this craziness experience. I practiced again shortly after and had a sort of disturbing dream type mini projection. There was this news cast saying that there were 8 boys missing. They found four of them but the other four were still unaccounted for. Next thing I know, this Asian woman shuts off the tv and says something like "well, now we don't need to worry about them". (for some reason there are many Asian people/themes in the scenes that I see lately.) Anyway, after she said that I just had an overwhelming feeling that something was not right. Maybe this thought triggered sub conscious thoughts about the movies the ring or the grudge. At this point the scene was fading but these spirit things that looked like the little boys where whizzing around making these really demonic noises. Deep manly noises. Snapped back after that. Twas unsettling. Lol. Such a weird experience all together. But that's not gonna stop me! :) Thanks again, Lion. I'm going to try again tonight before sleep.