"5th dimension" projection

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baro-san

Last night I tried for the first time dr Bruce Goldberg's hypnosis script for projecting into the 5th dimension. I have reservations regarding these 5th, 6th, ... dimensions, so I didn't have high expectations, but I ended up having an interesting experience, and I'm curious if anybody else experienced something similar.

As instructed, after merging with my Higher Self seen as white light, I projected through a black hole into the 5th dimension. I ended up into a blue-violet world inhabited by happy yellow blobs frolicking around. There was no gravity there, and I was literally engulfed into a blue-violet environment. The yellow blobs seem to have a semblance of facial features (eyes, mouths, noses, cheeks) that suggested smiling. They were in a continuous floating movement.

I was lucid, like in a lucid dream, but I couldn't control anything in the environment, except getting into and out of it. I gave myself the suggestion to remember the experience after I wake up.

It is the first time when I had such an experience unlike any other obe, lucid dream, or hypnotic experience I had before.
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Stillwater

The thing that is sort of off about the whole "5th dimension", "6th dimension", etc talk is that dimensions are not places, they are properties of space.

There is no place called the first dimension.

A spatial dimension is a way to describe space, when there is a direction to change the location of something that is perpendicular to the other dimensions that describe it.

For instance, say there is a flat piece of paper siting on a table. It is almost correct to say that all the points on the surface are more or less located on the same 2 dimensional plane. If a point started on the paper, but then moved vertically into the air, that point traveled in the third dimension, perpendicular to the other two. Notice that the third dimension was not the point's destination, but the description of its travel path.

The same would be true of a 4th spatial dimension. A fourth spatial dimension would be a means for traveling via what in science you would call a "hyperspace". It would be like you could leave a version of our world, and enter another 3 dimensional space that had different contents. From the perspective of a 3-dimensional being, something that was traveling along a 4th spatial dimension would either appear to blink out of existence, or be seen in section cuts as it moved. But it wouldn't leave a 3rd dimensional space, and enter a 4th-dimensional one, because that is nonsensical. It was in a 4th dimensional space all along.

The 5th dimension of travel would be similar. It would be a hyperspace of hyperspaces.

So that is the main reason I find these 4th/5th dimension descriptions from these authors very suspect. They misuse a mathematical language which they don't appear to understand.
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Volgerle

Your 'blob experience' reminds me of what William Buhlman once wrote about visiting his Higher Self. It was a bit similar to yours.

ThaomasOfGrey

Quote from: baro-san on August 18, 2017, 12:29:52
As instructed, after merging with my Higher Self seen as white light, I projected through a black hole into the 5th dimension. I ended up into a blue-violet world inhabited by happy yellow blobs frolicking around. There was no gravity there, and I was literally engulfed into a blue-violet environment. The yellow blobs seem to have a semblance of facial features (eyes, mouths, noses, cheeks) that suggested smiling. They were in a continuous floating movement.

This is a really fantastic account. I haven't had a personal experience of this kind but it is reminiscent of the dimensions of light or energy that I have read about. What was your impression of the purpose of such a reality? I think the yellow blobs are real entities like us - maybe it is like heaven for bacteria - or perhaps they are like the "machine elves" that are perceived in various forms.

Quote from: Stillwater on August 18, 2017, 12:58:19
The thing that is sort of off about the whole "5th dimension", "6th dimension", etc talk is that dimensions are not places, they are properties of space.

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So that is the main reason I find these 4th/5th dimension descriptions from these authors very suspect. They misuse a mathematical language which they don't appear to understand.

Yeah this is a common confusion in new age views. The trouble is that dimension really has multiple meanings in English. We think about "5th dimensional" entities as those that have free access to traverse time and space. Those guys probably really are out there in the place we think "spirit guides" live or something, but I wouldn't say that they necessarily exist in the 5th dimension.

In this context a dimension could be thought of as the difference between our reality (and all the geometrical dimensions therein) and the reality experience of an AI that lives in a sub-dimension of ours (our computer hardware).

I think the yellow blob land is like a completely different dimension that has nothing to do with geometrical dimensions of physical matter reality.

baro-san

Quote from: ThaomasOfGrey on August 20, 2017, 16:22:10
This is a really fantastic account. I haven't had a personal experience of this kind but it is reminiscent of the dimensions of light or energy that I have read about. What was your impression of the purpose of such a reality? I think the yellow blobs are real entities like us - maybe it is like heaven for bacteria - or perhaps they are like the "machine elves" that are perceived in various forms. ...

I can't really add anything more to my original post. The colors were very strong. I was immersed in a blue-violet medium, with many yellow blobs moving around. They didn't have any other features than a semblance of smiling facial features.
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"Read not to contradict and confute, nor to believe and take for granted, but to weigh and consider."
- Sir Francis Bacon