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Hello to everyone. Its been a while since i last was here telling my stories, but i have top share this with you and maybe you can give your opinions and discuss this one.
So it all started when i was laying on my bed thinking of the things i had done in the past days, was not even trying to achieve an obe nor anything, just wanted to sleep. I went to the bed just after 12am, watched tv for a while and closed it after like half an hour. I do not know what caused it as i wasnt able to sleep at all. I was just rolling in my bed from a side to another. Yes, i felt tired as hell. Last time i checked my clock, it was 3:36am.
After that went something what felt like 20minutes and i flinched from my "presleep" stage to awake. Closed my eyes again as i thought i would easily fell asleep again. Sudeenly i started to hear a ticking noise from my head with a loud echo. I remember thinking it was my heart pounding. Seconds later the pounding sound changed and i started to feel a warm feeling in my body and hear a sound like water was purling out of the hose.
At this point i cleared my mind and thought myself "agh, this time calm down, you'll been pulled away, its all safe in there".
Shoot to the sky and i was standing there! There where all i saw was GREY! (read: why GREY?) and everything looked like i was pulled to the 8bit nintendo game. There was a little house with a small window on my right side and i saw a figure, who looked just the same as my stepfather, stepping out of a car. I told myself to move towards the house and peek through the window and see whats inside. At this point when i told myself to move i felt a little poke in my body and rushed back to my body. Now i told myself to stay calm and keep my eyes closed for a while as i have had some horrible sleep paralysis experiences.
After a while i opened eyes and felt very relaxed, jumped out of the bed and had a smoke while thinking of this one.
I do not understand what makes it as when i try to achieve an obe, i never succes, but when i just try to sleep it suddenly happens.
You people, any thoughts of this one?
with respect: jarnolappa
"i started to feel a warm feeling in my body and hear a sound like water was purling out of the hose"
That's called tinkling yourself my friend =-0
( I'm just kidding by the way)
"I do not understand what makes it as when i try to achieve an obe, i never succes, but when i just try to sleep it suddenly happens.
You people, any thoughts of this one?"
Sure, do not drink before going to bed. Seriously though, yes something I seemed to notice as I've probably mentioned in here is that from what I can tell obe's seemed to be limited to the times the body/brain secrets certain chemicals. That idea accounts for the reason why as hard as I've practiced the past 4 - 5 years I can succeed, yet other times I do not. Im not just talking about the failed attempts because of falling asleep. I can willingly and within 20 minutes sometimes less, hit the vibrations even daily. However sometimes when I hit the vibrations I can feel them overwhelmingly taking me in, all is good and my mind is clear. Then out of nowhere they just stop and thats it, no seeing through the eyelids, no separation, nothing. I know the subtleties of separation, even the feeling of my consciousness and how it feels mentally to be separated.
It's like hitting a brick wall, like peaking too early. From my research, my experiences, and observations it seems like a chemical combination (which includes dmt, whether it's excreted from the brain or other parts of the body) is responsible for what allows mind and body disassociation. Some think when I say this that I am saying obe's are not real they are just hallucinations, but that is not what I am saying here. The separation is real, it's more perceived than it is literal. When separated you are not completely severed from all communications with the body what-so-ever. It's more like you have a roving consciousness but part of you, your mind (an unconscious part) stays behind. Again don't take it too literally. What you should realize by separating and still communicating with your vessel should tell you something. People take the separation too literally.
The reason why you can still communicate with your body while your consciousness is out sneaking around married woman's apartments is because everything is connected, not by a silver cord but overlapping everything else. You should start to see by now that there is no separation between us, and everything else which allows us to do what we do. You have to really think about it, then go ahead and obe yourself and then think about it. Perhaps you will see.