Scary buzzing and quakes

[Ceriel N]

Apparently the buzzing sound is when you're supposed to sit up and notice the 'other' part of you is left behind.

And the violent shakes is nothing to worry about (It wasn't your phsical musclescontracting, was it? =/). I get them too. A bit annoying IMO, but not painful.

And this question might seem odd, but do you have brow eyes? Yes, I'm very much out on a limb asking this question. Just trying to see if there's a connection...

[vgchesskid]

I don't  think my physical body moves at all during this state of humming/buzzing/quakingness,except for the required stuff of course.Brow eyes? I'm afraid I don't know what that is.BTW,do you get scary feelings during pre-obe(or astral whatever) as well?Today was the second state like this I've had.The last time, I half-woke up from a bunch of nightmares(41 i think) and my mind was showing me scenes from each one when the buzzing noise came up.Then, a horror movie background noise/tone sound came about and scared me half to death.The quakes happened too, but not so intense.Oh well, even with all the stuff that goes on, I'm gonna try it again t'night.Now that I can fall asleep(I am an insomniac), maybe I'll be able to project soon.I hope it's worth it.[8D] BTW, thanks for the input too.

[jc84corvette]

I never heard of physicall pain happening this way. That must be scary waking up and your body is paralyzed huh?

[Mohamed]

Yes, you where close though, I am sorry you had to have it in such a manner.  It is different for every one.  Some people can leave with out any vibrations or sounds; others have to deal with these.  I for one do not feel vibrations once I am out, all that is there is that annoying buzzing sound, though it isn't very loud, it is still there.

Good Luck,
Mohamed

[Ceriel N]

Agh! Curse this wretched keyboard and my inability to proof-read![:[V]
"Brown" is what I ment to type, not "brow".

I don't really get scared these days. I've managed to convince myself that fear is irrational, so generally any frightening imagery that comes to me I simply frown at. You on the other hand are very brave if you dare do what scares you. []

[vgchesskid]

Ceriel,I'm a brown eyed black haired german/austrian(descendent of the royal family of "Hohenzuleran" or something, but not royal anymore cause hitler killed them), if that helps you know of any connection or anything[] .Well, this pain isn't like a stinging or sharp or biting sensation.Nothing like that.It's more of a pressure as the quakes happen.Kinda like a sudden full body migraine I guess.I should learn to cope with it after a while.buzzing noise after ob? man, I hope I learn to get rid of that if it stays with me.I wonder if I focus on the buzzing/vibes long enough I will be shot out of my body like some people say...

[Ceriel N]

Actually, the reason I asked is because an online friend of mine correctly guessed that I was brown-eyed after I described what he said was signs of being in tune with the Earth element. When practicing certain forms of chakra meditation you draw energy from the ground through your legs, and during AP your chakras are very active. The reason I asked the question was to try confirming it. If I am correct then maybe we react with shakes and quakes because of this. Maybe. []

I have had migraines on a few occasions and I can only imagine what it would be like to have one in your entire body. Still, pain is usually a sign that something is wrong, so getting used to it might not be advisable.
Last night when paralyzed in meditation and focusing on my chakras I noticed something strange. When I switched my focus to my throath chakra I could hear the buzzing sound, first faintly and then more clearly. When swiching my focus away from my throat chakra the buzzing faded.

Do you do chakra meditation? It might be that a locked one is the reason you're not getting out.

Also, I've noticed that when I focus my attention on the shakes, it fades quite quickly. When I relax furher, letting go into deeper states, the shakes become more violent.

[vgchesskid]

BAh, I don't do any of that chakra mumbo jumbo.People keep telling me the same thing, that I'm not getting anywhere because of it...but I always complete my goal and prove them wrong.You see, beliefs are just support or mind blocks.To most people, being spiritualist helps them, but it doesn't mean the spiritual stuff is real.I went the scientific and skeptic way, but I'm doing just fine so far.Just because my brain interprets certain signals as quakes, doesn't mean there is an Earth element.Anyway, I'm getting better at falling asleep, so I'll be able to go into the pre-obe state whenever I want, then I'll be able to figure out how to fix this quake problem some people have(unless someone else does it first,of course).Oh and I found out that BWGEN presets were the things that seemed to cause me to have vibe states after I stopped listening to them for a while and fell asleep.And the pain?These vibe states only last a few seconds so far, so I dunno what happens to the sensations after I stay in the state for a while.I keep getting scared and come out of it.I've only gone into the state a few times,anyway,
so I have a good chance of getting over it so far.Also, I wonder if heavier vibes are required for getting out(for us anyway)?Have you projected yet?

[Ceriel N]

I don't think the heavier vibes are required. When I got out I do however remember the buzzing sound.

What you call it is of no importance. That they exist, is. This is a part of determinism, and most scientists are adopting it. I did so a year ago, and as you continue this path you'll find that you will too.
Ever thought that people might be telling you to do chakra work because it helps and works? It's not an on/off switch, but it helps greatly. There are no exact sciences, and when it comes to this particular area you'll find that accentuated.

'Earth element' is used to describe a characteristic tendency of nature and is not a tangible thing any more than evolution is.
Chakras are collectives of nerves with varying properties. - Do you think the brain is just the collection of grey between your ears? What about the rest of the neural network running through your body? Are not they too grey matter? Part of your brain?

Please, science is just an old story in new words. Ancient wisedom is just as valuable if you know whow to interprit it.

[vgchesskid]

I know all that.And don't worry,I'm a psion...so my "chakra's"/nervous clusters are just fine.I do grounding/centering(visualizations, I don't believe I'm actually getting energy FROM the Earth, just resetting my nerves), that kinda stuff.So I'm just the same as you guys.I just don't refer to the stuff as "qi/chi/ki/ chakra..etc" because the 'recent' majority of spritual people are reading false, non-scientific(DBZ!) info that isn't "interpreted" ancient history.I just don't want to be associated with those "DBZ" people.I even know someone who thinks that there is a difference in ki/psi/chi/ki, and he also thinks people can fly, too.The thing is, psi-people tend to think within a SMALL scope of power, thinking hardly anything is possible.So I go both ways, which is why I'm on this forum.Anyway, I just wanted to go ahead and clear any EVIL thoughts about the new scientist, in case he stays on this forum for a while.[8D]

[vgchesskid]

Today, I was relaxing and I fell into a sleep state.After a while, I woke up(or I think I did) and was paralyzed.I tried to call for help but all that came out were light breaths.Then I heard this buzzing noise.My body felt as if it were quaking violently.The buzzing tone got louder.I started to focus on the buzzing and the quakings/vibrations got so violent it was painful.Know how you are about to fall asleep and you abruptly wake up, causing a limp to jerk or a muscle to spasm?Imagine 10 of those every second.That's what the quakes were like.Know how in a nightmare you have this scary feeling even if there is nothing there...or like anything can be scary(like a little matchbox car).I had that feeling throughout the whole experience.Eventually the quakes got so painful/scary I got a leg to move and snapped out of it.Am I close to getting out?I'm starting to fear for my health now...[V]