Links between F4 of Conciousness and Taoism

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Contenteo

Hey again!

Through fate, I guess, Right before my first Astral experience, I met an individual who was a into Tai-chi and Taoism. I was always curious, so I tried it out. Honestly I was uber-skeptical because if you have ever seen them, the movements of Taichi look like that of a very disciplined crazyman. I still think they do, but i understand all the difficulty is internal. It is not an external thing.

Regardless, so the Master of the dojo gave me the Tao de Ching(Sp??) second book of Taoism to read. My mouth dropped because the whole thing is essentially about F4oC.

I have a feeling all real religions at their core (IDK, maybe the playing spaghetti monster was an f2 thing, :-D) stemmed from what we are all exploring. (another correlation being "forgiveness" in Christianity - one will perceive no evil in the astral realm if they believe they are free. Anyway, heres the link to the Tao de ching:

http://chinapage.com/gnl.html

You make your own interpretation whether this dude was simply goin to f4 all day and teaching people about it. Oh for reference, I think f4=The Way in his mind. I mean, he didn't really have the letter f in his culture.  :wink: what else was he goin' call it.  :-P

PS: He also wrote a book called "The Secret of the Golden Flower" which is literally a guide to astral projection. Which talks about how to get to the way. Yes, you guessed it, it involves deep meditation and concentrating upward. I can't find a link for that one. Sry guys, you are own your own there.

Cheers
-Contenteo



Stillwater

Yeah, Laozi (Lao tze to some) was pretty sharp. The other thing about the Dao de Jing (again, spellings vary based on system) is that it has been translated so many times, and that the original text was fragmented and had to be reassembled into scholars' best possible guess as to its real orignal order, that it just adds chaos to craziness, lol. You see, the orignals were all written on these bamboo shards which were tied together with grass. The bamboo survived ages, and the grass lasted decades, lol, so you are left with a handful of jumbled pieces when you finally handle the scroll again. So people had to figure out what this crazy guy might have meant, on top of putting his rantings in random order, lol. To make things even crazier, some people think pieces of other scrolls might have ended up mixed in with the Dao De Jing. It is like taking an already difficult movie to follow, like 2001: A space Oddessy, or one of Steven Lynch's films, changing the order of all the scenes, and adding in snippets of Willie Wonka and the Chocolate factory and Animal House in there randomly. It is going to be insane any way you look at it, even if some people claim to know what it is saying, lol.

That said, I love the Dao de Jing. It is so reverent and otherworldly, and says nothing directly; it is like written music, in a way.

You should also read the Zhuangzi. It is my all time favorite piece of Chinese literature, and was written by the other major founder of Daoism. It is just as otherworldly and playful, but we have it on pretty good athority that we have a better preserved translation of it than the Dae De Jing, so you don't have to sort out his intentions from possible artifacts of the order being changed, just the nuances of translating form ancient Chinese (which are themselves profound enough on their own). 

You can find good copies of both the Dao De Jing and the Zhuangzi online.
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