Ever Tried to take a Metaphysical object back to the Physical?

[Killa Rican]

Of course this could just simply be "trickery" of the mind. But i recall a while back during a projection, that i exited out of my body and everything looked the same in my room. It Looked even "realer" then being back in my body honestly. But i saw a bunch of marbles on the floor that weren't really actually there in the physical. and a thumb tack. I walked aroudn for a bit exploring my room and was fully aware.

As soon as i "felt" like i was shortly going to be pulled back to my body. I quickly turned to the marbles on the floor and out of curiosity thought to myself if i can bring it back to the physical with me. So i picked up  a few of them, held them tightly in my hands while i was being recalled back and felt the impact of going back to my body. I was a bit groggy by then but when i was laying down on my bed and still had my hands tightly closed I  still felt them in my hand. I felt them roll around in my fist, and even felt them hitting one another with the spherical edges. They were cold but i still felt them. Of course when i opened my hand there was nothing there....

But i still felt them on my hand even then. But when I tryed to let them roll on to my bed they escaped my hand and i no longer felt them. I could only feel them when i was groggy. But not once they escaped my hand.

Interesting though.

[Xanth]

I've "held onto" objects in dreams as I've come out of the dream... and I'd be holding something completely different (like my pillow) but in such a manner that it mimic'd the dream object PERFECTLY.

[radman32]

I do recall having an instance like that, i don't remember what it was, but that would be interesting to investigate. Maybe if we were of higher (energy) potential. Maybe those marbles were symbolic of something that was missing in your room that should be, or literally were something you should acquire.

[blis]

I think you've lost your marbles

Maybe you were half way to apporting some marbles. Might be worth trying a few more times.

If you had actually managed it do you think you would have been brave enough to tell anyone?

[personalreality]

That's a big part of ritual magic.  The physical tools are symbolic of astral energy forms.  I'll elaborate when Im not on my phone.

[Xanth]

I think it would take some massive mojo to do something like that.  And when I say "mojo"... I don't mean anything magical. 

You'd, literally, have to learn how to shape and form the object... crunching some density into the non-physical energy, giving it a physical presence...
I just don't know. 

Subconsciously, I'm sure we all have the knowledge... I mean, as far as I'm concerned, we created this entire physical reality and everything within it.
So who knows.

Give it a shot and see.  Manifest a few million dollars for yourself... better than counterfeit! 

[interception]

I agree, massive "mojo" would be required... game breaking levels of the stuff in fact. 

[Xanth]

I agree, massive "mojo" would be required... game breaking levels of the stuff in fact. 

What would we call it?  Haxing to the max? 

[interception]

What would we call it?  Haxing to the max?  

What about the "Free Lunch Reality Dysfunction"?  

Seriously, how many laws of physics will have to temporarily pretend to be busy while you are basically dragging a couple o' thousand terajoules of energy in the form of matter into this objective reality?

I'm sure it will tire one out as well.  

Impossible? No. Impossible for a human? I think so.

[personalreality]

can't say much for bringing an astral object to the physical in physical form.  however, you can create an astral object and utilize that energy form in the physical.

[Jarrod]

I have a friend who said she went to bed on clean sheets one night and dreamed about being on the beach, and when she woke up there was a little pile of sand on the sheets below her hand.  And I have another friend that once said he shaved one night before going to bed and when he woke up the next morning he had like over a week's worth of facial hair growth.  I've never had experience with anything like that but I have noticed strange correlations sometimes that seem impossible.  Like for example my alarm clock will wake me up but at first I will be dreaming about something that's making a loud noise much like my alarm clock and then I slowly realize that it's actually my alarm clock and I wake up...but the thing in the dream that was making the noise had been going on for much longer than the actual alarm clock would have been going off.   There are other instances like that where something random and sudden will happen physically to wake me up but the way my awareness shifts from dream to reality, it's like that things was happening in my dream before it started to happen in the physical.

[Bellend_1010]

I have a friend who said she went to bed on clean sheets one night and dreamed about being on the beach, and when she woke up there was a little pile of sand on the sheets below her hand.

Sorry but did you really believe that?

[CFTraveler]

Sleepwalking anyone?

[Jarrod]

I have a friend who said she went to bed on clean sheets one night and dreamed about being on the beach, and when she woke up there was a little pile of sand on the sheets below her hand.

Sorry but did you really believe that?

I always have doubts, but I like to keep an open mind, and from some of the other things I've seen myself involving that person...a little sand wouldn't surprise me too much.  haha

[HaoAsakura]

Sleepwalking anyone?

If we actually believe we can separate from our body an immortal energy form that lulz at the laws of physics why should we put the "impossible" ban here?

[HaoAsakura]

I think it would take some massive mojo to do something like that.  And when I say "mojo"... I don't mean anything magical. 

You'd, literally, have to learn how to shape and form the object... crunching some density into the non-physical energy, giving it a physical presence...
I just don't know. 

Subconsciously, I'm sure we all have the knowledge... I mean, as far as I'm concerned, we created this entire physical reality and everything within it.
So who knows.

Give it a shot and see.  Manifest a few million dollars for yourself... better than counterfeit! 

Wait how is that we created the physical reality? Care to explain please? I am interested.

[Xanth]

Wait how is that we created the physical reality? Care to explain please? I am interested.

Just my part of my belief of the how and why this physical reality is here.
We created it for our own educational experiences.

I see this physical reality as nothing more than a more dense astral environment... nothing more. 

[HaoAsakura]

Just my part of my belief of the how and why this physical reality is here.
We created it for our own educational experiences.

I see this physical reality as nothing more than a more dense astral environment... nothing more. 

I recommend you to read the Holographic Universe, you will like it a lot. I dont think we actually created all the physical universe but I do think we have access to the forces that created it, and can eventually at the last stage merge with that One omnipotent force I think that even way before the final stage we will reach stages of universe creation and there are countless of parallel universes.

To me the only theory that makes sense is the parallel universe theory that are interconnected by time routes, is the ONLY ONE that can effectively respects free will. You could say "But if there is only one universe there can still be free will" but only Randi level pseudoskeptics can deny there have been proper predictions of the future, this alone would dictate if there is only 1 universe free will is impossible moreover the existence of the supernatural suggest the universe also has a chaotic order as well as a linear one this is only possible in the multiverse theory, also is the only one that actually accounts for time travel without paradoxes.

Glad to know I am not the only one with similar thoughts.

[Simo]

Well I say that impossible is nothing!Energy forms matter,if one controls energy,he controls matter,if he controls it he can create...and destroy at least I see it that way

[i smoke and drink coffee]

Some believe that it is a potential 'baseline' existence.  That potential oscillates between potential-reality, and actual-reality.  That, in fact, at the quantum level, it is absolute, 'zero point', or, the total summation of space-time-energy.  So our perception of reality is what we expect it to be, based on our beliefs and focal / attention as we exist.  When we die to one frequency of signature signals, we are born into another.  So in meditation, when they teach you to stop your thoughts and focus on 'no-thing', you are actually building potential to exist.  If you concentrate that potential, it becomes closer to the zero point, which is, 'infinite density of space-time-energy'.  That's part of how, I believe, you can eventually teleport.  You concentrate your life force until it is absolute inside of you, and reality shifts accordingly.  To create a physical object, consider that actual-reality is not what we are currently experiencing.  Night and Day, wake and sleep. part of why we sleep to recharge.  If we can gain infinite density of spacetime in ourselves, we prolly become our own Universe, and go through the processes of guiding the creation and incarnating to experience life and death and rebirth as a god.
Consider, please, that 'space density' does in fact mean that there is more space on the inside, like a pocket of reality.  When you concentrate space, time, and energy, you create your internal reality, and worm holes and rifts can be accessed, also, astral projection.  To create in the physical?  Perhaps it requires stronger or more concentrated energy, the gravity and flux required to phase the signals until they become the desired object.  Could be a simple release or summoning out of the Absolute (essence) of all things.

[personalreality]

Some believe that it is a potential 'baseline' existence.  That potential oscillates between potential-reality, and actual-reality.  That, in fact, at the quantum level, it is absolute, 'zero point', or, the total summation of space-time-energy.  So our perception of reality is what we expect it to be, based on our beliefs and focal / attention as we exist.  When we die to one frequency of signature signals, we are born into another.  So in meditation, when they teach you to stop your thoughts and focus on 'no-thing', you are actually building potential to exist.  If you concentrate that potential, it becomes closer to the zero point, which is, 'infinite density of space-time-energy'.  That's part of how, I believe, you can eventually teleport.  You concentrate your life force until it is absolute inside of you, and reality shifts accordingly.  To create a physical object, consider that actual-reality is not what we are currently experiencing.  Night and Day, wake and sleep. part of why we sleep to recharge.  If we can gain infinite density of spacetime in ourselves, we prolly become our own Universe, and go through the processes of guiding the creation and incarnating to experience life and death and rebirth as a god.
Consider, please, that 'space density' does in fact mean that there is more space on the inside, like a pocket of reality.  When you concentrate space, time, and energy, you create your internal reality, and worm holes and rifts can be accessed, also, astral projection.  To create in the physical?  Perhaps it requires stronger or more concentrated energy, the gravity and flux required to phase the signals until they become the desired object.  Could be a simple release or summoning out of the Absolute (essence) of all things.

This is a part of my reality paradigm that I've been working on for a while.  When the buddhists say that all is illusion this is what is meant.  It's not just that we alter the quality of something because of our beliefs and preconceptions, but rather the object exists solely because of our beliefs.  If we had no beliefs or expectations, we would see the absolute potential of un-collapsed waveforms, pure abstraction.  These beliefs are represented energetically as what I call a "reality bubble", which essentially extends out as far as our sensory organs can detect.  Once a photon enters the "sphere of influence" it is warped and twisted back around to basically paint a picture of reality on the inside of our respective bubble, thereby creating "reality" or the illusion of one.

[Fresco]

I remember reading somewhere that this is possible

[Simo]

Last night I was in a really vivid dream,and I felt that I am about to wake up,so I took a white stone from the ground(you know,white yellowish stones around river beds,sun can pass trough them)and begun to hold it really tight.So I wake up(or I thing I did)Opened my hand to see that the stone was broken to smaller pieces,I could still see and feel them,there was also some sand and bang!They all disappeared!maybe I was still dreaming when I woke up who knows...