Having a hard time getting out of the RTZ...

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Amorda

Hello again,

I often roll out of my body and find myself in the RTZ. Being fully lucid, I try to transport myself to another location. I am having a hard time doing so. Its almost like I'm fighting with myself thinking 'let's see if this works' and then other times I think 'this is going to work' and nothing happens. How does one overcome this?

Also, does it help to have a single location in mind when trying to do this?

Szaxx

Hi Amorda nice to see you again.
In the morning, using the 'slide out into your room' usual method, have you travelled very far from the 'sleeping body' location?
  If you are etheric as opposed to astral the distance available is limited.
Too many authors have also said the same thing. I was wondering how far you have travelled.
Your known location may be too far for you to manage at present if too great. It does help to know the location, the noises, the smell and its ambience, these contribute to a direct hit. If it's hundreds of miles away this may some time to achieve.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Rachael Hicks

Or you could be like me and stay in the rtz forever lol, I've been doing this since childhood and didn't even know there was other places to visit until I found this forum, I assumed where I was going all these years was the norm. All you really need to do is enjoy the fact that your astral projecting. people spend lifetimes and never succeed once, so your blessed. I've learned to enjoy the rtz it's not as bad as you think, you get used to it lol. But if you find a tech that works plz let me know. I'd like to see what the astral proper looks like. I've heard it's the best place to be, but I wouldn't know  :-)
"All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream".            Edgar Allan Poe

Astralsuzy

People say you have to have intent to go to other locations.    If you do not have intent it is a lot harder to do.    One way to get intent is to go through a wall and have a strong intent that you are going to a different place when you go through the wall.    You can think of other ways to get intent.    I have gone to other places by going through walls.   
You say, lets see if this works.    That could be part of your problem.   You are putting a doubt in your mind.    Try to think positive all the time, not just some of the time.

Szaxx

One method that seems to be very successful is to travel upwards at great speed. From reading various books ect it seems the etheric body can't go any distance. If this is true then to travel any distance a method is required to transfer the conciousness from  one to the other.
As I've had many experiences shooting towards the stars in my early days, this high speed travelling may be one that's simple to do and all that's required. This is the reason why I asked how far in the RTZ.
I hope you all get some success in trying this. Remember how things feel before and after should you be successful. The melting hand thing would serve purpose here. Unfortunately I can't find any method to get back to the RTZ to test it.
Put your hand infront of you and hold it there, in the astral it appears to melt away, in the RTZ I have no memory of ever doing this unfortunately.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

soarin12

Quote from: Szaxx on March 24, 2014, 18:21:22
One method that seems to be very successful is to travel upwards at great speed. From reading various books ect it seems the etheric body can't go any distance. If this is true then to travel any distance a method is required to transfer the conciousness from  one to the other.
As I've had many experiences shooting towards the stars in my early days, this high speed travelling may be one that's simple to do and all that's required. This is the reason why I asked how far in the RTZ.
I hope you all get some success in trying this. Remember how things feel before and after should you be successful. The melting hand thing would serve purpose here. Unfortunately I can't find any method to get back to the RTZ to test it.
Put your hand infront of you and hold it there, in the astral it appears to melt away, in the RTZ I have no memory of ever doing this unfortunately.

I did it this way too.  My first AP was RTZ and my second I flew at high speed through space, and when I allowed myself to sink back down to earth I was in the astral proper.  It was earth-like but it became obvious it wasn't the earth.  Really ultra-bright and fantastic looking.

spirited away

I'm a beginner and all the AP i experienced are in RTZ.  I have tried rubbing my hands together and blow at it and my hands did melt.  By doing so, it did help with keeping my awareness.
Boom chika wow wow!

Amorda

Thank you everyone for your input.
I'm going to try the shooting up into the sky technique next time. I have gotten out of my house in the Rtz and explored my neighborhood. While doing so, I can fly, move at superhuman speeds, and become invisible (kind of meld into the scenery) if I need to do so. So, I am very aware of what is happening at all times.

There was one where I tried to just keep flying horizontally in one direction...
I ended up going over a grey desolate ocean that had a lot of cloud cover.

Again, thank you everyone! Please keep this topic going. I love reading your replies and tips.