I dont know what to think of my experience last night.

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Traveler_2649

Last night, I can't tell if I had an AP experience or if it was a vivid dream. There were parts of the experience that I could physically feel and it continued after I "woke up" at a certain point.

Immediately after the experience, I got up to use the bathroom and made a point to write this down.

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31 May 24
23:20

Unguided/Spontaneous

I have never felt "vibrations" like this before. It was beyond anything I've ever felt. I'm not sure if I should be writing this in the dream journal or here.

I laid perfectly still. I sorted my way through the "monkey brain" stage (quieting random thoughts).

I felt as though I was with (my childhood best friend's name). We were somewhere tropical. I was staying at "his house" (or wherever he was staying).

I'm still buzzing from the experience. It's difficult to write at the moment.

I was in a bed and I felt an almost static charge building. There was a period where for a brief moment I heard static, and almost some kind of distorted voice on a radio. Then the charge surged, and it was the most powerful thing I've ever felt. It came in waves, but they were long. It was intense, but I liked it.

I was pulled during a few surges, going head over heels out of the bed I was in. (best friend) saw this after the first one. He asked if I was OK. I reassured him that I was fine. After that we were "driving" and traveled away from where our beds were. It was night time.  It felt like we were in some kind of Hawaiian island. We reached a point in the road where we looked out into an abyss. The abyss was not intimidating or frightening. A massive surge of energy built up and flowed through me.

I started explaining to (best friend) what I was feeling, and I told him about my meditations and my pursuit of AP. He asked why I hadn't told him about it sooner, and I explained that I didn't want to be judged or seen as crazy, which he understood.

Then to our left, we heard a child crying. We saw the child standing in front of a home and we both decided to leave. It was almost a feeling of fear, but more along the lines of "I don't want to know what's about to happen next, let's leave". As we were returning to where the beds were, I realized not to abandon the child/spirit and thought, "I'm sorry I can't help you, I love you."

Then I sort of woke up, back in bed next to (my wife's name), but felt another massive surge of energy. It subsided, and I got up and wrote this down.
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Now, I'm just going to put a few additional notes here.

First of all, I credit most of this to Lumaza's "Doorway". I had decided to give it a shot, but last night was the second attempt I was making at trying it. I was just focusing on absolutely clearing my mind and never even got to the point where you visualize the Doorway and ask yourself questions about it. Thank you, Lumaza for sending your link.

Secondly, to those who are familiar with the "vibrational" stage, I'm a bit annoyed with the terminology being used here. Calling that insanely powerful feeling a "vibration" is like calling an atomic bomb "a really big firework". It felt less like "vibrations" and more like sticking a fork into a 220V outlet. Don't get me wrong, the feeling was immense and powerful. It was bliss. I loved it, and could feel each wave building to a crescendo. It was a wild experience, and I hope I get to experience it again.

Now, my question is, what was all of this? Did I have a vivid dream, an AP, or a bit of both? Please let me know what you think. Any insight or input would be appreciated.

Lumaza

Quote from: Traveler_2649 on June 01, 2024, 11:11:35First of all, I credit most of this to Lumaza's "Doorway". I had decided to give it a shot, but last night was the second attempt I was making at trying it. I was just focusing on absolutely clearing my mind and never even got to the point where you visualize the Doorway and ask yourself questions about it. Thank you, Lumaza for sending your link.
Your welcome. We all come here to either learn or share what we have ourselves already learned. The "learning" never stops though!

QuoteSecondly, to those who are familiar with the "vibrational" stage, I'm a bit annoyed with the terminology being used here. Calling that insanely powerful feeling a "vibration" is like calling an atomic bomb "a really big firework". It felt less like "vibrations" and more like sticking a fork into a 220V outlet. Don't get me wrong, the feeling was immense and powerful. It was bliss. I loved it, and could feel each wave building to a crescendo. It was a wild experience, and I hope I get to experience it again.
Yes, it sounds like sometimes the "vibrational" state gets downplayed. But it is definitely not something "easily" ignored! It's just hard to put it into words and many of us here have had it repeatedly, so it isn't as fantastical as it was when it happened for the first time to us "spontaneously." It is still a phenomenal thing to experience, but it seems quite a bit "tamer" the next 20 or 50 times around. I remember one of my experiences during a "candle staring" technique I was using. The sound was like that of a Helicopter landing on my rooftop and the vibrations like a violent earthquake. I was hooked, there and then!  8-) You can read a number of those experiences under my former name "Lionheart" here on the Pulse. 

Bedeekin, a fellow valued member of the Astral Pulse here, years ago, wrote a fantastic thread on Sleep Paralysis. He did this utilizing the scientific viewpoint on the "nuts and bolts" behind the phenomenon.
https://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome-to-out-of-body-experiences!/everything-you-could-ever-want-to-know-about-sleep-paralysis/

I also started a thread based on "Exit Symptoms and Signposts".
https://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome-to-out-of-body-experiences!/exit-symptomssignposts/


QuoteNow, my question is, what was all of this? Did I have a vivid dream, an AP, or a bit of both? Please let me know what you think. Any insight or input would be appreciated.
The reason I shared both of those links above here is that you did have a bout of "sleep paralysis", which in turn led to NPR experience, aka OBE. In other words, you have achieved your goal. Congratulations!  :-)
Your description here "I was in a bed and I felt an almost static charge building. There was a period where for a brief moment I heard static, and almost some kind of distorted voice on a radio. Then the charge surged, and it was the most powerful thing I've ever felt. It came in waves, but they were long. It was intense, but I liked it." showed this to be true.

The static charge building. the distorted voices. The surging charge in waves, all check off the points in the Exit Symptom thread. Those waves will come until they become just one, a constant, then you just find yourself "there", wherever there might be. Sometimes you are either "jettisoned", spun or in my case "dragged by your ankles" out of your body.

The fact that your friend was there could be to make you feel "comfortable" in your new surroundings. He could have been a "mentor" or "steward" (steward, as in the meaning "an employee on a ship, train, or bus who waits on and is responsible for the comfort of passengers").

Many people will only get a brief "sneak peek" when a SP episode occurs. You were given an adventure. that shows that you are ready and open to more and because of that, more shall come.
"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."  Nicolai Tesla

Traveler_2649

About 6 months ago I had another experience that lasted maybe a few seconds where I woke up in the middle of the night and rolled from my side onto my back. When I did, I felt the vibrations build. The sound that came with it sounded like an F-18 taking off from a carrier. Then I shot up towards the ceiling like I was fired out of a cannon. I "woke up" right before I hit the ceiling, and I was still sleeping on my side.

Again, I can't thank you enough for the suggestion of completely clearing my mind. I've been doing the Gateway Tapes, asking for messages to progress with OBEs. The most frequent response I've received was simply "Let go", and following your Doorway technique seemed to be the key to doing it.

omcasey

QuoteNow, I'm just going to put a few additional notes here.

First of all, I credit most of this to Lumaza's "Doorway". I had decided to give it a shot, but last night was the second attempt I was making at trying it. I was just focusing on absolutely clearing my mind and never even got to the point where you visualize the Doorway and ask yourself questions about it. Thank you, Lumaza for sending your link.

For future readers, can someone please put the link to Lumaza's "Doorway" technique here?

I believe I have read it, but also want to doublecheck. Thanks!

Lumaza

Quote from: omcasey on June 01, 2024, 15:31:39For future readers, can someone please put the link to Lumaza's "Doorway" technique here?

I believe I have read it, but also want to doublecheck. Thanks!
I apologize for that. My bad!

 I have put a link to the Doorway thread on many threads here in the past. So much so, that I thought it was "overkill". There are a number of great techniques to be found in that "Welcome to Astral Consciousness" subforum. The Doorway is just one amongst many of them. I still use a variation of it today, so I have my own bias to it. The last 5 or so pages explain more about what the actual technique I use today evolved into. I am always experimenting with new things. That in turn always keeps this practice "new" and fresh to me. Never a dull moment. always eager to keep the lessons coming!
https://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome-to-astral-consciousness!/the-doorway/
"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."  Nicolai Tesla

Volgerle

My first vibrations also were not vibrations at all but strong energy surges with sound that came from the down of my spine upwards through the torso.  :-o

Like you I was annoyed when I then read about pleasant and soft vibrations. I only had them later after this hard-core phase.   :wink:

Here I wrote about it also recently and there also is a link to my blog about my first 'violent' OBE induction experience:

https://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome-to-out-of-body-experiences!/astral-vision-with-exhilarating-energy-surges/msg380111/#msg380111

 8-)

Traveler_2649

That was an awesome read. It's interesting that you mentioned you arm moving on it's own. When I woke up, I was laying on my back, but my legs had moved at some point. My knees were bent, pointing straight up.

I wasn't as annoyed as I was completely unprepared. It was such an incredible sensation. It felt so good, despite feeling as strong as it did.

I'm wondering, have you expedient anything like that since?