My main fear!

[smooth]

 So i was talking to my mom the other day about obe. She's into this type of stuff. She was telling me when she was in her 20s she went to some sort of school to learn how to ap. She learned how and could project within just minutes.

I asked her why she quit, she told me she doesn't like seeing random people in her room when she leaves. The thought of this is kind of creepy to me. She said when you leave you can see spirits and ghost almost as if your in their "world". When I was younger I would see spirits/ghost alot. It was almost an every day thing for me. I had very bad experiences and some not to bad. I still to this day see them sometimes believe it or not.

I'm wondering is this common thing to see spirits when you leave. Do they try to talk to you? I have ap a few times a while back and didn't see no one. The only time I would see any spirits/ghost would be in the process of me leaving like the old hag, a dark guy, my grandma and a few others. I just dont want spirits waiting for me to project and follow me as weird as that may sound.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

[EqualThoughts]

i think u should just hire some astral body gaurds ahahah

-Thoughts

[Virgin Astral]

Hi Smooth.

I know where you are coming from.  I too have had several bad experiences.  On the other hand, I have had several very good experiences.

The last time I was out, I was chased.  It was a very frightening experience, one of my worst.  I was sure that I wasn't going to make it back to my physical body.  Also like you mentioned, sometimes there are others waiting for me to get out, and are there still waiting when I am out.  They have a very negative, evil presence.

I don't know what you can do to get rid of them, and how to guarantee that they won't be there when you get out.

My best advice is that if you don't want them there waiting for you, then don't go.

[Eloquence]

Remember, they can't harm you!

Also, I seem to recall reading a post a while ago, about someone who had a simliar problem, and someone suggested simply saying to the ghost/spirit "you have no power over me, leave!" and it worked for him/her. Worth a try.

[3588897]

If you are truley worried about these things I would suggest just saying the incantation bleow three times before you project and then during projection when you reenter your body:
Bellelin, bellelin, bellelin,
Amphora of salvation, I want to stand next to you,
Materialism has no strength next to me,
Bellelin, bellelin, bellelin

If they are negative entities then they will either be disabled or they will disapear and if they mean no harm they will remain.

[smooth]

thanks for all the help!

[blade5x]

I almost never see anyone when exitting. I also feared that, because it seems like at that point, you have the least control over what is happening. Once I'm settled down, and can actual move around and control  myself better, seeing other "people" does not bother to much.

There was only once where I've seen a person in my room, once where I saw a person in a random location when it began.

But I all think it's a dream anyway... (but I do believe in the possibilty of the dreamscape being another level of existance)

[FrostyRose]

I use the belilin conjuration all the time. And it works. The best of luck to you!

I've met some scary entities in the astral, but they've never been able to harm me. I think they just like to scare. And some we find scary because we don't understand them, what they are and what they're doing here.