PLEASE HELP...! My first experience am I near to AP

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new2ap

PLEASE HELP...! My first experience with AP
I have been trying to project since week. But every attempt I made was unsuccessful I couldn't reach the vibrational stage. Until today morning I woke up at around 5:30 I look at the window if was still dark. I thought to project but I waited until 6:30 (as I afraid of dark) lol. I just closed my eyes and drift off to sleep, now I was dreaming about myself in bed and attempting to project and was feeling some sensation back of my head. Suddenly, I realize I was dreaming I woke up but I didn't open my eyes. OMG! I was feeling as If my head was motor and a very large propeller was attached in the very center of the back of my head and was moving. I can hear the sound it was like fluf, fluf, fluf.... I could even sense the direction of the propeller was moving (it was counter clockwise). The feeling was soothing but scary, I knew it was happening and I clearly had the feeling that I'm in a vibrational stage but I doubt it, as it was taking up speed and was moving faster and faster and I started thinking whether it was vibrations or something else was going on (at this point I was feeling as if I'm half sleep and half awake). This scared me and I couldn't think what to do next I started saying stop stop I'm not ready please stop, and the sensation gone after a while, and I  really regret to be scared of this.

I didn't feel the tingling sensation which usually starts in vibrational stage.

Was I really in vibrational stage?
What should I do when I come across this sensation?

Any suggestions??
I also afraid of Dark and the feeling of separation. Please help me motivate. I just want to do it badly but I get scared.
If I do it once, my fear will go away.

Sorry for my really bad English :(

Warm Regards

Astralzombie

Hi. Welcome to the Astral Pulse. I would say it's pretty obvious that you were experiencing all the sensations that indicate the onset of SP. Once you're fully in SP, you should apply an exiting technique that will help you "separate" from your body. There are many, many techniques already here in the old threads so I'm sure you can easily find one that you can try. Plus here's an excellent thread on SP itself.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/sleep_paralysis_the_whats_whys_and_wherefores-t38734.0.html

This thread will help you to understand what SP is and why you have nothing to fear at all. Right now fear is probably your biggest obstacle. I know all the sensations can be overwhelming but if you read this thread, you should be able to calm yourself down enough to let them pass.

There is no reason as to why you should be scared to AP while it's dark but I do understand. Nothing bad is gonna happen but you really will have to succeed a few times before you can realize this.

Don't give up. You really are close. But I'm sorry to say that once you conquer your fear, you'll also have to get use to not letting your excitement and anticipation ruin your attempts. Just remember that you are totally fine and the majority of people have to conquer the fears as well before they succeed.

Good luck and keep exploring. 8-)
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
Mark Twain

new2ap

#2
Thank you for your response & motivation.  :-)

I was browsing net for getting more info about this topic. And I come across some websites, in which they talk about negative entity that you may bring with you if you are not protected well before inducing astral projection, and many things regarding bad entities like people started seeing negative entities (after their experience with astral projection) in their normal lives and they bother them and touches them and suck energy from them and asking question how to get rid of them.. blah blah blah.. :|

Why I am asking this because I don't want to mess with anything that I am not fully aware of. I don't want to bring something evil I might regret..


My purpose of AP is to know about myself spiritually, and also want to know about my past life and my past karmas, and the purpose of my life here on earth and all..  So, I don't want to bring any bad entity to my life and bonk myself up totally.
I have also read somewhere that some of these entities are your own thoughts manifestations and some of them are really bad one and could bother you. Is this true? and that when you encounter any such bad entity you should send love and they would  go away. But how exactly should I do this , I mean do I come close to it and hug it or should I say I love you, I like you and please don't bother me ?? :? or what? :?

Please refer the following link too.. Is this all true or bogus.?? :?
http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2011/05/can-negative-entities-masquerade-as-spirit-guides/   :-o

I'm just scared. Also I don't fear of death but I don't want anything evil bothering me my whole life until I die. (I know this sounds stupid) :-D
I used to watch scary Japanese and Hollywood movies but I have stopped watching it, so that my mind is clear of scary thoughts.
I need an expert advice, I know you people are very experienced and expert in dealing these situations.  8-)
Maybe I sound totally funny or foolish or hilarious or to be joked about..
I want some real answers please.
Should I continue AP or should I stop it.  :| :?

Thank you

Warm Regards

Astralzombie

Oh Dear.

It really does sound like the church and society have done a number on you as they did with me as well. I'm not passing judgement but more like sympathizing because I completely relate to the fear you are wrapped up in. Believe me, I was there and I understand how high of a hurdle it is to jump.

Unfortunately, there is nothing we can say that will convince you that there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO FEAR. You really do have to make a personal decision for yourself and decide that you're tired of fear holding you back.

I was even told by my Priest that demons would bother me if I continued to have OOBE. This freaked me out for a while but I went ahead with my journey anyway. In the years since, not once have I encountered anything that fits the description of this kind of "evil".

I say yes you should continue but ONLY if you are ready to leave fear behind you and develop a new more positive way of thinking. Think about what that would really mean for you.

One last thing about Erin P. Be aware that she is running a business and fear sells. In her store, you can by candles and incense that can ward off "evil" spirits and crap like that. I read some of her writings a few years ago and I realized then that she has probably never had an OOBE in her life. She really is spewing back everything she has read and putting her little spin on it to drive her business.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
Mark Twain

ChopstickFox

I like to think of it this way: No matter how you get there, you go to the same place. Whether you're dreaming, obeing, APing... whatever. You are experiencing the non physical. Just in slightly different ways and with different levels of awareness.

Be not afraid. :) Take love with you and that is what you will receive!

If you see something scary it is most likely a manifestation of your fears. What I mean is that it is internal, not an external entity trying to get you.
Take to the sky, feeling so alive! Past the clouds to the Milky Way, share our secrets with the starry brigade. The stars surround us like a million fireflies. For once I see infinity... it's in your eyes.

new2ap


Can anyone of you guys give your views on William Buhlman, I was listening his interviews, he seems a really good man and very experienced in OOBE, but he didn't talked much on evil/negative entities.

Also, I didn't get the answer how to send love to negative entities. What should I do exactly ?


Regards

Lionheart

 Did you read Bedeekin's excellent Sticky on SP? If not, you should, it answers many of your fears and questions.

To rid yourself of Negative Entities, you need to confront them.

But first, why do you think they are negative? Is it because their looks? Are they doing bad things to you?

Then ask yourself, why should they look like you and me. You have gone over to "their turf" per say.

You are going to find all kinds of strange things and beings in the NPR, but just know that they CANNOT HURT YOU.

You can always awaken and "poof", they are gone!  :wink:

Bedeekin

Hey new2ap.

You have many fears. One is being afraid of the dark which is generally associated with a fear of the unknown. It's a primordial logical thing though and just reflects the human condition. This is a simple one to combat. I did. Mainly through repeated exposure to what you experienced in your first post here.

Repeated exposure is the best way to confront your fears.

If you can imagine that I experienced this nearly every night for months and came out the other end stronger for it then that hopefully should give you some confidence.

William probably didn't talk much about evil entities because he knows too well that they really don't exist. I don't talk about such things because they are a pointless addition to your subconscious. As soon as you externalise negativity you will learn nothing. Only by confronting and expunging your internal fears can you truly overcome demons and 'negs'.

The thing is... I only ever experienced this fear during SP. When actually separated you basically leave the fear behind in bed. The 'out' bit is completely different in nature.

I actually don't know how to send love to negative entities... I've just ignored them.

As I was typing Lionheart wrote this and it pretty much adds more along the same lines...

Quote from: Lionheart on February 25, 2013, 00:54:01
To rid yourself of Negative Entities, you need to confront them.

But first, why do you think they are negative? Is it because their looks? Are they doing bad things to you?

Then ask yourself, why should they look like you and me. You have gone over to "their turf" per say.

You are going to find all kinds of strange things and beings in the NPR, but just know that they CANNOT HURT YOU.

You can always awaken and "poof", they are gone!  :wink:


Astralzombie

#8
here's the irony of all this. Everybody is already experiencing the astral realm which is just a belief centered term. I believe in the term Non Physical Material Realty or just NPMR/NPR for short. It's just that most people don't realize that they"go there in a dream". I personally think that it is more accurate to say that every single thought we have while either awake or asleep happens in the NPR.

We can not experience anything until our brain has processed the information of our interaction with the environment we are currently in, be it physical or otherwise. Once all the meat in our skull has finished processing the data, our consciousness will then verify the interaction as an experience.

If you're willing to give that theory a shot, then you can see how you are in as much danger or just as safe as you are every moment of everyday, regardless of the reality you are experiencing.

Did I really just say that?
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
Mark Twain

ChopstickFox

AHH!! Every moment of the DAY?! Every thought?! I need a certified exorcist pronto!

But seriously, good point.

We are safe. :)
Take to the sky, feeling so alive! Past the clouds to the Milky Way, share our secrets with the starry brigade. The stars surround us like a million fireflies. For once I see infinity... it's in your eyes.