"POP" sounds

[jilola]

Can't really explain it.
But I've experienced it so I know what you're talking about. When I heard the pop I was aware with a nicely calm mind but not anything like totally relaxed.
Didn't pproject as I got too interested in the sensation and th esound.

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jouni

[quebec]

quote:Originally posted by jilola:
Can't really explain it.
But I've experienced it so I know what you're talking about. When I heard the pop I was aware with a nicely calm mind but not anything like totally relaxed.
Didn't pproject as I got too interested in the sensation and th esound.

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jouni

In the time this has happened I was completely relax and as you described "in a nicely calm mind", although I think that I wasn't completelty there also.
Since this is often described as something that occurs very close to having an OBE, I would like to know if there's something I could do to have an OBE instead of jerking back.

[wisp]

I get something like that while I'm drifting off to sleep. Mine is more like a "THUD" in my head. Last night there was a "THUD" in my lower back area(first time).  The only thing different,  I was trying was to rise above these tall trees to become air borne before going to sleep.

[Kenneth]

I have those experiences too.

It's like if you have a little piece of wood "snap" in half somewhere in your head/ neck. Or if you have a "stiff" neck, and you move your head to remove that stiffnes, then that sound resembles this "snapping" sensation.

As far as I have read, this sound is similar to the "ripples" in the body, when the astral-body tries to break free from the physical body. (The astral head trying to "break free" from the physical head is what causes theese sounds).

But you are rigtht - it is very difficult in the beginning to be at ease with theese sounds, when you are very relaxed.

One other thing is physical sounds in a "normal day environment", that feels almost like physical slaps / hits on your body, when you are in a trance state / deep meditation.

I have also felt this in a "normal" relaxed state, when my girlfriends dogs suddenly begin to bark. (Earlier it felt like a normal "chok", but resently it feels more like a "bullet" hitting my body ... Strange, that it changes like that ...

/Kenneth

[wisp]

I think I know what your talking about. It's like having times of increased sensitivity to your environment. I think this may mean your in a higher vibrational level. My right ear has become very sensitive to certain sounds since this past summer. For instance, birds chirping and metal objects touching or clanging together are very intensified to me.

[Leyla]

Yeah- I've heard it during meditation when I accidentally poped out of my body. I felt it as a physical sensation; my soul "poped" out right through the top of my head!  Then I just went floating, but got dizzieness and vertigo.

I think it's related to exiting the body through the top of the head. I hear certain monks do it over and over until they develop an actual hole on the top of their heads- then they wear a feather in it to remind them of the astral every time the wind blows.

I never hear it when I sit up out of my body from laying down. Are you leaving your body from the "sitting up" posture, through the top of your head?

[quebec]

Originally posted by Kenneth:


It's like if you have a little piece of wood "snap" in half somewhere in your head/ neck. Or if you have a "stiff" neck, and you move your head to remove that stiffnes, then that sound resembles this "snapping" sensation.

But you are rigtht - it is very difficult in the beginning to be at ease with theese sounds, when you are very relaxed.




That's a good description, but it's louder. Almost like a gunshot near the ear.

I know that these sound are often reported when OBEing. So I must be near having an OBE. Is there something that can be done, or is it with time that you get use to these sounds and stop reacting ?

[Kenneth]

wisp: I think I know what your talking about. It's like having times of increased sensitivity to your environment. I think this may mean your in a higher vibrational level. My right ear has become very sensitive to certain sounds since this past summer. For instance, birds chirping and metal objects touching or clanging together are very intensified to me.

- I hope so ... But especially the dogs barking, or when i am in deep trance even the refrigirator starting or stopping is enough for me to "feel" it like a physical sensation. I am getting better at staying "balanced" even when those sounds occur. I have also changed in the way that I almost never use my car-stereo anymore ... It's like the silence is much more comforting - and I get to do a lot of Energywork as well ...
(Come to think of it - quebec mentioned a sort of "gunshot" near the ear ... sometimes i get theese sounds when I am at the end of breating out - But I have contributed them to some saliva in my nose or something that bursted ?!? ... Sounds almost as if you made a bubblegum bouble, and it bursted - but in my case not as loud ?!? ...)

Leyla: I never hear it when I sit up out of my body from laying down. Are you leaving your body from the "sitting up" posture, through the top of your head?

- I have not yet been able to leave my body from a trance-state, (Only once, but that was after a couple of hours in company with my "inner self". That sort of "Fuelled" my third eye, and suddenly I was able to phase through to the astral levels (I think *S*).
Yesterday though, I tried something that makes sence to me - and that is NOT to try so hard ?!? .... I laid down in my bed, meditated, got my body totally relaxed, the "paralysis" started to spread out, the feeling of "fluffynes", the extremely cold hands and feet - and even to my face and neck this time ... I focused on my Third eye, but i think i kept a too strong "control", because at one point my focus sort of drifted to one side, and i got a little dizzy when my head followed (That is my "astral" head *S*). When I discovered that, I couldn't help but "control" my head back in place with my physical head ... (I long for the day, when I am able to stay "balanced and centered" through ALL the different emotions and feelings i get ) ....

So far I can stay "untouched and balanced in my mind" through the cracking sounds, the ripples in my body, the "fear" seems long gone by now ... So I think it is some of the last hurdles i need to accept and learn I am going through now ... (It's like beeing in the Eye of the storm - even an Adrenalin rush is more like a little "tingle" lately, where I can stay "focused and balanced" through that sensation.

My main problem seems to be:

1. I want it "too much" - that is, I try to "force" something to happen, that WOULD have happened naturely if it were not for mee trying to force it - and thereby blocking it ? (It's like I have to find the right amount of "force" or technique to trigger / assist the point from the vibrations until the actual APR. Using the Rope-technique i have been able to "drag" my self out so I could actually feel my Astral "heart" beeting - very, very fast .... But I couldn't get any further from there on ... it was like i had a "border" inside of my mind that i couldn't pass through or something ?

(Hmmm - I am not sure if I try to take all of my Etheric Double (Energy Body) with mee along with the Astral body when I try to project ? ... Perhaps that is the problem ? ... Then I need to find out HOW to seperate these two bodies (!)).

I have NO problem feeling my Etheric body - and Being in my etheric body and switching between them... I sort' of "tense" all the muscles in my body without using the muscles, and the ripples starts almost instantaneously - but getting from the ripples to the actual APR is a hurdle i have yet to learn !.


2. Beeing able to "let go" ... I have read somewhere, that you should not need to "let go of control" when working with theese things - but I think the ability to do that, sort of "speeds things up" a bit ... I think, that my journey is a bit longer because i don't want to "surrender" my self to something I don't know what is ?!? .... But I am also sure, that I WILL get there eventually !!

Seems like everytime I get one question answared, three new comes along ....

/Kenneth

[Leyla]

Seriously though- I really think the "pop" comes from exiting out the top of your head.

There's some kind of hole there your soul can squeeze through.

I never get it when using the rope meathod, or phasing.

[quebec]

In the past two weeks I have experienced this loud "pop" sound, this is the best description I can give it. In the three times it's happened, I just startle out.

I am aware that this is a normal experience in OBE.

It happens immediatly after I lose my "mind-awake" state. Either I'm asleep, or I'm somewhere in between slep and awakeness.

It is almost as a gun shot near my ears...it sure brings me back.

Anyone can give me hints on this ?