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Erik

Ah, a video where someone is hinting that we are one and that life is an illusion.
I get a lot of clues pointing to that direction lately. First thought it had to do
with algorithmics, but some sources like Astralpulse are algorithmic independent.
At first I thought oneness is a kind of boring. The guy in the video and other sources
say that they can understand this but it isn't the case. Like that!

Tak

I love this video! I'm moved by the way this man expresses himself. Thanks for sharing!

At this moment I have some doubts about "The Source" as I understand, especially from Monroe's latest book, we all have our Primary Essence Focus, our particular Source, which projects into countless universes and realities of different types, beings (us/alternate/parallel lives) to experiment and return with the knowledge acquired. Now I don't understand if when people talk about The Source, it is this same thing or another "larger Source" from which the Primary Essence Focus arises. I don't understand if when people refer to the Source, it is the particular one, or the Totality. As I understood from Monroe's last book, everything would extend to macrocosmic scales.

I hope I made myself understood. Sorry for asking this question in the Retrievals thread, I hope to read more soon! 

Thank you,
Greetings!
.~Exploring the Wonders of Consciousness~.

LightBeam

Quote from: Tak09 on October 20, 2023, 10:06:27I don't understand if when people refer to the Source, it is the particular one, or the Totality.

hi Tak, for me personally, when I refer to the Source, I mean All That Is = God. The totality. But I know that I have larger self or higher self which is on a smaller scale, but it's different from your higher self. Both have their individuality so to speak with its array of characters and experiences. Then we drill down further to characters. I think the levels are so many and can be labeled in various manners, but the Source to me is the total oneness, the source of all from which all consciousness on individualized levels of all scales sprung. The separation to all these down levels and scales are a matter of perception. I wouldn't call them illusions though. I really don't like the word illusion. If something is perceived as real, then it is real to the perceiver. Now, the perceiver may not be aware that they can shift their perception/beliefs and start perceiving something else. They may have posed restrictions on purpose, but that's another topic. As we speak all of us and everything that ever exists are parts of the Source but at the same time all perceiving separation. The degree of awareness of the larger scales of ourselves all the way to the source depends on our individualized journeys.
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

Tak

Quote from: LightBeam on October 20, 2023, 11:50:08hi Tak, for me personally, when I refer to the Source, I mean All That Is = God. The totality. But I know that I have larger self or higher self which is on a smaller scale, but it's different from your higher self. Both have their individuality so to speak with its array of characters and experiences. Then we drill down further to characters. I think the levels are so many and can be labeled in various manners, but the Source to me is the total oneness, the source of all from which all consciousness on individualized levels of all scales sprung. The separation to all these down levels and scales are a matter of perception. I wouldn't call them illusions though. I really don't like the word illusion. If something is perceived as real, then it is real to the perceiver. Now, the perceiver may not be aware that they can shift their perception/beliefs and start perceiving something else. They may have posed restrictions on purpose, but that's another topic. As we speak all of us and everything that ever exists are parts of the Source but at the same time all perceiving separation. The degree of awareness of the larger scales of ourselves all the way to the source depends on our individualized journeys.


Thank you very much Lightbeam, very well explained!  :-)  It's clearer now...I suppose it all depends on the perceiver's own experience, and on what scale they perceived that, how open to the experience they was and to what extent the Ego disintegrated to merge into that Unity. 
.~Exploring the Wonders of Consciousness~.

Lumaza

Quote from: Tak09 on October 21, 2023, 10:15:56Thank you very much Lightbeam, very well explained!  :-)  It's clearer now...I suppose it all depends on the perceiver's own experience, and on what scale they perceived that, how open to the experience they was and to what extent the Ego disintegrated to merge into that Unity.
Yes, you really need to "check those boxes", especially the "ego" one. You need to remain "neutral" and in "observer mode" to be able to experience those deeper things.

 It's funny. I have been actively, consciously experiencing the non-physical realms for years now and not once can I say that I ever looked for "Source". I just knew it was there. I learned early on to in this practice to "allow" things to occur, instead of attempting to "direct" them. I have had experiences into this area of pure white realm of pure bliss. I didn't attempt to go there. It was just shown to me!  :-)

 I hear so many times people here on the Pulse how people seem to think they need to have a OBE when they are already in a non-physical realm. If you ended up where you did, there must be a purpose for that. Seek out that purpose! This is especially true in Dreams. Even the "Void" has it's own lessons to teach!  :wink: 
"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."  Nicolai Tesla

Volgerle

Retrieval Of A Lawyer From A 'Confined' Space (Wall / File Cabinet)

Date: 31-Jul-2024

Account

I use the Wake-Back-To-Bed strategy after a very long time and it is a success (so I really should do this more often). After several attempts I get lucid in a municipal area finding myself in a city (more of a small town) at daylight. No person in sight. I start walking to search for a retrievee remembering my task of doing retrievals. While I am searching I do not miss the opportunity to complain and 'scold' my invisible guide(s) for wasting my limited ludicity-time by not getting me directly to the place I should be.

After a short while I walk past a local cemetery. I do not remember if I entered the graveyard but suddenly get the image of a younger woman with dark hair looking at me and saying 'I have a gun and I shoot!'. It is not certain if she was threatening me directly or if her words were directed at me at all. The vision vanishes and I move on.

Then I am in a house, still demanding to be shown the retrievee. Then I see to my left on a table a kind small model of another house but it is in ruins and it seems somehow burnt down or exploded. I even see it as a kind of animated form, a 'hologram' of  a house rising up and then falling or burning down again, like it was a movie on a loop.

Then I enter in a kind of office room. To the left is a kind of wall cabinet that is huge. I get the feeling it is or was for keeping files. However as the door opens I see a woman inside. I identify her as the same women from before but now with blonde hair and a bit older (middle-aged, 40-50 years maybe).

I then notice that she has no gun this time but still seems somewhat hostile towards me, or at least cold and distant. I also realise the presence of a guide. He is waiting in the corridor leading to the room and not visible to the lady who is still standing (hiding) in this wardrobe or cabinet in that room. He is dressed in white like a doctor or a paramedic while I notice about myself that I am also clad in white.

Then he tells me (whispering into the room): 'Take care what you say, she is a lawyer'. So I interpret this as a recommendation that I need to carefully weigh my words since these professional law people reading all the legal texts might be pedantic and fussy with anything you say or just be overcritical in general.

Knowing this now I face her and start to talk. I do not remember exactly what was being said. Maybe I asked her what she is doing there but also remember I said something along the lines of 'violence is never a solution' (referring to the vision with the gun).

She is seemingly recognising me as a professional of the medical kind due to my attire. I also seem to have somehow conveyed to her the impression that I am not here to harm her but to help. There also seems to be the notion of a 'psychological' or 'psychiatric' problem (also since she is not hurt physically). Maybe that is why she then asked me this question: 'So are you or is there any professional (psychiatrist?) around to help?'.

Immediately I jump at the chance. 'Yes, here is Mr [invented a name] and he is a specialised doctor who can help you with your problem'. The guide then enters the room. I notice that he is actually crawling because suddenly it looks like the entire room was even more confined now with a lowered ceiling, I also seem to be crouched now. He (still young and shining in his white attire, with long dark hair, dressed as a doctor) starts talking to her, smiling and asking questions.

Unfortunately I do not remember any of their 'consultation'. I try to stay anchored in the scene looking at my hands as a technique for stabilizing myself. After a while however I know it is futile and I slowly fade out of the room entirely. Since the handover worked and the 'doctor' guide was now taking care of her I do so with a good feeling. I wake up immediately to take notes.

Analysis

Most of the time the scenes were bizarre and dream-like for me. So I conclude that this was the enclosed and private dream-space of the retrievee (in Focus 22), at least after I entered the 'house'.

I don't know why my first impression when waking up was that this lady actually had shot herself (or was shot?). I discarded the suicide or murder version leaving it as one possibility now. Maybe the shown 'hologram' of a burnt down, collapsed or exploded house could also be an explanation but then the gun does not make sense anymore. Maybe she died in a house being bombed in a war or terror attack or it was just a home-related accident?

I opted for 'lawyer' in the account, but the guide actually used the word 'Juristin' for her, which is translatable as 'female jurist' in English. So the most likely case is she was indeed an attorney but also could have been a legal counsel or judge. However, that does not change my assessment regarding the situation and her personality.

The gun and her being a 'jurist' as well as her strange and comical dwelling in the file cabinet could also be a metaphorical expression of her being so overcritical with information and express her data-driven rationality. This in turn might be a contributing factor to her self-isolation after her (violent?) death. Maybe her job (and life) as a very rational person also seems to point out her materialistic and atheistic views keeping her from breaking out of her 'mind prison' now. Many recently deceased people cling to their lives and even job lives after death.

Another explanation of her rather comical habitation is that it actually symbolised her lying in a coffin. The later lowering of the ceiling with me and the guide in a crouching and crawling situation might also be a hint. Furthermore I've read a few retrievals from graves by now, so it is possible. Rational and atheist / materialist people seem to cling to their dead bodies for a while, especially after a traumatic death. After all this could be a good explanation for the graveyard I passed (or entered?!) before I met her in her own dream-space in F22.

Enough thoughts on this. I decided to do the WB2B method more often from now on. It might get the ball rolling again for me regarding OBEs and retrievals in particular.

Lumaza

Quote from: Volgerle on July 31, 2024, 10:27:52Enough thoughts on this. I decided to do the WB2B method more often from now on. It might get the ball rolling again for me regarding OBEs and retrievals in particular.
Sometimes a block is overcome by moving backwards to go forward. Going back to what used to work is just what is needed.

 In your experience, you began with a strong intent and even literally "demanded" a Retrieval to occur and for that this time you received your wish. Almost every Retrieval experience I have had has come through more of a spontaneous nature. There seemed to be a learning curve that I needed to go through.  After a while it was already known that it was my goal to be an "Invisible Helper" to those that not only needed it, but would accept it as well.

 In almost all of my Retrievals, there seemed to be some kind of "telepathic review" occurring. I was given an insight on the past experiences of the "Retrievee" that led to where they were now. That could be where the "gun" came in. It could have been a past lead into and pertinent to the scenario at hand.

  How did you feel when you awoke?
"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."  Nicolai Tesla

Volgerle

Quote from: Lumaza on July 31, 2024, 13:35:16How did you feel when you awoke?

I felt content, satisfied. I felt that it kind of worked since the handover to the guide happened.

I was busy though with rewinding the experience in my mind to memorise as much as I could. Then as next step I got up to jot it all down.
Then back to bed for sleep because I was - of course - still very tired. So no time for 'celebrations' or revelling in emotions. (Maybe I'm meanwhile also too experienced for that, it has become a routine nevertheless, even though the gaps in-between when sth. happens have widened for me).

When I did the write-up the following day I noticed how important the internal 'rewind' and ensuing documentation in writing is because I first had an outline that was shorter, only when I looked at the notes I could add much more from the experience, things I would have forgotten by then. So disciplined journalling is really key.