I Became a Point of Consciousness!

[Rastus]

Metaphysical baggage I call it.  It's like "walking" in an AP, there is no need, but you have years of conditioning on how you move.  The converse is why people don't fly, because you "can't" fly in a body.  As soon as you realize there are no limits, then you reach a new level.

Congrats!

[Selski]

Metaphysical baggage - I like that!!

I'm learning, but slowly.  I think I'll read Astral Dynamics again, but more thoroughly.  I got overwhelmed with that too!

No patience.

Ho hum

Sarah

[Aphelion Yearspew]

First of all congratulations on your progress. I'm glad to know what I've wrote has helped you in some way.  This is a good step in the right direction of converting the astral replica of your conscious mind to a state where it can interpret most of the information it receives, before it gets interwoven with its "original" physical counterpart.Which will always try to replace, or erase essential parts of your projection, simply because it doesn't understand the "language" of the astral. And so it is forced to redirect the memory of the experience, into words and images that it associaties the event the most with. This is often way off. The more recognizable details (that are not really relevant to the experience) you feed it with, the more false hopes it will get. In other words, it'll start to believe that it is familiar and knows the language in question, when in fact it's listening to a gibberish mumbling voice on a bad LSD trip with a severe speaking disorder. So after your projection, when the minds collide, and the energy leaks over to the physical brain, it'll ask you something like: "hey I missed you in here (or maybe "couldn't you stay out a little longer?" depending on your relationship with it) "Where have you been?". And part of your answer would contain the concept of a body. It'll be like "hmmm let's see... bo...bod...body, ha there it is in my precious dictionary!" And from there on it will interpret everything else you'll try tell it, with what knowledge it has about what the body is capable of.
Since that is the one part it's got defined, and is thus the only thing it can truly trust.
No matter how hard you try to convince it, for example, that you just saw in over 360 degrees around you at the same instant in space and time, while flying astral entities used telekinesis to guide you somwhere. It probably won't accept it. Since it's not part of the language you suggested it should use. It could go something like: "Oh you mean a large group of 360 bats were circling over your head, waiting to take some blood tests". Why didn't you just say so immediately you silly little girl!?" It won't start searching or exploring for a new way of interpreting information
by itself, if you give it something it thinks it already knows so well. It'll just take the easy way out, and it will never be given the chance to evolve in creative manner, or think "outside of the box".
But you can influence it, to "experience" things from a much closer to first-hand type perspective, by
bringing it closer to the source itself, so it won't have to interprete as much.
In other words try to expand your awareness in quality and quantity.
When I was first starting out (when I was still resting in my astral cradle, doing what all cute naive points of tiny consciousness do) I came up with this little technique that I discovered  while trying to "skate on very thin ice".

The technique that has over the years proven to me (and even some of my friends) to have
worked really well. So why not share it: Project out of your body (preferably as bodyless as possible) to a nearly empty but recognizable open place/field. This should be a place that you can return to, so you can come back another time to finish where you left of. Next try to astrally place at least 8 "items" in the shape of big sphere (let's keep it 3 dimensional for now, for simplicity's sake) around your point of consciousness. These items should be things you're heavily in debt to and/or passionately desire. And if represented in the right from (which is the part the astral will take care of) are simply irresistible to you. What's also important is that the association you have with of these items, will be boiling to unfold themselves one after the other in a chain reaction, as soon as you become fully aware of them.These items can be anything you want really. They can exist in a concrete form (representations of loved ones, certain sights, pieces of music, etc.) Or in more of an abstract form (thoughts and emotions that are not dicrectly sensory related, love can be one of them). The sphere should basicly suround the whole of you, and block you from any external energies.
Try to not make the sphere infinitely huge the first time; you're not attempting to take over the universe here
(not yet anyway! [}:)]) You should be close enough to each item, so you can clearly sense every particle of energy at its associative peak, that's coming toward you. What comes next is kind of difficult to explain in words but I'll try. What you need to do is try to cover each individual item up, with an astrally tightly chained dam, so that most of the energy is held back, and you won't be able to see it. The next step involves a little trick, that every vacuum-projector (i.e.bodyless) should be able to master at some point. This is the instant-zoom manoeuvre. And since you already vacuum-projected once shortly, this shouldn't be too hard (unless of course you expect it to be) You simply focus intensely on a place ahead of you, and quickly try to sense as many of its imidiate properties or characteristics. For example imagine what it would feel, smell,taste like while sharply focusing on it, with the intend of being teleported there instantly. If you're not sure about this, try to practice it first on training ground (astral-proper). But it really shouldn't be much of problem, once you get more acquainted with the behaviour of the astral. Alright, now that you know how the
instant-zoom manoeuvre can work, you're going to it perform on one of your items (who are still covered by the their dams) in your sphere. Once you instantly arrive at your item, start raising your energy, in the same way you would if you would have a body to work with. While you try to fill every part of your awareness with energy, start letting your associations with the desires of the item take on a lead role in your energy. You will probably  feel those associated reactions, behind the dam putting pressure on your awareness by now. Don't get distracted by this, and let your subconscious slowly form its own image from your associations with the desire, behind the dam. Now do this with every other individual item as well. When you're finished doing this, lead your awareness back to the centre of the sphere again. And perform the instant-zoom manoeuvre on the item from which you experience the least amount of pressure at this point. When you arrive there, raise the energy of the desire's characteristic associations, again.The energy will now probably be manipulated and intense enough to create some holes in the dam. And this energy will have now have a singular purpose, to reach your awareness as quickly as possible. But it's important to remember that at the moment the energy escapes, you should try to immediately perform an instant-zoom manoeuvre on the next item from which you receive the least pressure. Go through this same procedure with the other items, in the shortest time that you're able to. Move very quickly (but don't forget to keep your awareness alert at all costs) from left to right, up to down, back to forth and whatever else you can come up with. Figure out what form of energy you're dealing with, tempt it, and instant-zoom to the next item. If, after you get the energy in a state to ignite itself, you succeed enough times (for the energies to blend properly) to teleport yourself to the next item before it reaches your conscious awareness, it will naturally try to mingle with the energy on the chains, that are tied to the dam on this item. Although they may repel each other at first, You'll have to try to make them "discover" that they both originated from the same source. So I've found that one way to make the energies conduct properly with these chains, is to purposely "overload" your emotional attachment bag. For example by adding an item, which represents a being you know you might possibly never sense again in any form, or manner. I realize this seems like an odd thing to do. But in the astral it appears to be the harder you try letting something float away from your awareness that you have a somewhat discrete emotional attachment to, the saltier the "tears" in the energy will be on the chains that govern the dam. Who will therefore get rusty and most likely break, before the energy vanishes.
And so your awareness has the chance to spread as rapidly it as you wish, since it's now free. And at the same time being heavily emotionally charged while colliding with every other separate point of awareness behind the broken dams.  
Untill  you can eventually just let it go, when you realize that the other points of consciousness will naturally and inevitably follow you.


So the more you can expand your awareness, and the clairity of it. The more the mind stretches and aproaches the source. For a much greater part of it has now joined your projection.
And can this way share its information on a much more direct level, where basicly every piece of information, is almost instantly send over to the physical brain, since part of your consciousness is now guarding your physical body, and "correcting" any misinterpretations your physical brain makes. This is not done by having the astral actually changing the brain's mechanics. But rather by  trying to let it relate, and prepare it to receive, and interpret the information, while it's in a sense part of the astral. You can compare it to the brain being in a quantum state between the physical body and its convertion to the astral awareness. It of course never actuelly leaves the physical body, as far you care. But it can, without an actual replica being made, quantum tunnel its way in and out of it. It's both alive (physically) and dead (astrally), untill you influence it back to the state you expect it to be. Before that, there's no way to be sure, which one is correct.
So the energy will not enter the brain before its reshaped, by its manifestation in the astral.
And thus it can now begin to learn and understand that mumbling little voice, who seems to all of sudden have taken on some serious tongue-gymnastics. Although it may still stutter at times. Having a miniature astral gateway opened (that you probably didn't know you owned) of which large amounts of still unexplored energy is floating in and out of you, may at first overwelm you. This could also have been the reason, why your "point of consciousness" experience ended so quickly, and suddenly. So just give it some time to adapt. It can eventually let this energy through at any time, even if you're not projecting. Although this may it at first be hidden in somewhat sublimal messages, it should get much more serene and clear with practice (though you can always try playing the message backwards.) Depending on your commitment to sanity.

I hope you'll be able to expand on your experiences, which show some great potential.
And good "luck" on your future explorations.

Oh, and feel free to shoot.....



....if you have any questions, comments, or general outbursts.[]

[Selski]

Thank you once again Aphelion.  I think I get the gist of what you are saying.  

I want to walk before I can run!  I've just started meditation and eventually will progress to energy raising, but for now I will continue to explore the bodyless OBEs until I feel comfortable with them, and until I can retain them for longer periods.

Once that happens, I will re-read your technique and see if it "fits" with me then.  I must say, it sounds fascinating.  

Like you say, I'm still in my astral cradle at the moment - I can barely get passed the front door most times - but I have the will and determination to progress.

Thanks for taking the time to share your views and technique. []

Sarah

[Aphelion Yearspew]

quote:
I want to walk before I can run! I've just started meditation and eventually will progress to energy raising, but for now I will continue to explore the bodyless OBEs until I feel comfortable with them, and until I can retain them for longer periods.

Right, I guess that's a very wise frame of mind to have that will probably turn in your advantage eventually. Unlike myself who was violently shaken out of my astral cradle. Without getting cleanlicked or having the placenta removed beforehand, which not only made it hard for me to walk, but even when crawling my body seemed to be too slippery for the quicksand of uncontrolled and frustrated energy to pull me under. The amount, and the pure stubborness of these passionergy-waves (passion influenced energy) that wanted to all of a sudden access my consciousness simultaneously was simply too overwhelming for my little astral mind to take in all on its own. Since these were released under strongly build up pressure, which came from a long time of purposely repressing them. In order to gather enough energy, to get the astral to react on it, so it would be able to create an all-phase conducting pathway that would be able to transpose knowledge to stabilize astral matter, during a vacuum projected meditation session. (the stabilization of astral matter is something I can expand on sometime if somebody is interested)

The reason I went through this, is because at the time, my girlfriend was declared to be uncurably sick, and she desperately  worried she would lose herself in the afterlife, if she didn't stabilize her own sanctuary base in the astral. Something she could always return to, when she would need an uninterrupted energy recovery, unaffected by other entities, and influences. So that she would always have enough energy to contact those she believed to remind her of what she stood for, or who really cared about what she was going through. She was so terrified that she would turn into the kind of hopeless beings we used  to try to save from their fixed frame of reference (alot of times unsuccessfully) Who were slaves to their own subconscious, devolving into what feeds the victim they portray themselves to be. This slowly started  to turn into an serious obsession, which made matters even worse, for me as I never could've imagined the feeling of pure helplessness that put its fangs inside of me. But even more so for her. To make a long story short, for some miraculous reason she against all odds started to recover from her disease. Although she was already too far gone at this point. I've since gained a new level of understanding her suicide, but at the time I felt that eventhough I had all the space and time I always desired in the astral, I couldn't let a second pass me without it immediately spiraling back into me, pushing me into depths of the conscious where I simply couldn't possibly "spend the night" if I didn't want to trip over the her own left-over sweat and blood stains., and thus directly follow her. But I wasn't too sure about that, at that point either.

This is why I was so determined to quickly lose my body to start of with. (eventhough I couldn't even walk through astral matter  properly at this point) The way I desperately went about doing this the first time is by using this most elastic, and out of reach  part of my consciousness that I stumbled on, to my advantage. And so by entering, shortly leaving and getting sucked in again, this state of absolute revulsion and confusion of what you've let yourself become, I was slowly turning it into kinetic energy. Which started to make my frozen astral cradle move, suddenly. As soon  I sensed that I started  to gain velocity in an accelerated fashion, I didn't hesitate, for I realized this was my only chance to escape this part of myself. For a nano-second  I used up all this build up  kinetic  energy to stretch my awareness  right in front of the quickly moving wheels of the astral "cradle." When I opened my "eyes" again I realized I was being propelled out of what  has served as my main sanctuary. I enter a state of panic as if I was a yet underdeveloped fetus ripped out of its womb, and being thrown down from a canyon, having to catch up with my unbilical cord, which is thrown out a couple seconds later. All of a sudden I started to sense what seemed to be every sensation, pleasant or less pleasant, that my girlfriend went through right before she passed on. And somehow, I'm not sure how, I seemed to have been channeled some snippets from her thoughts about what she should've done differently. Through this knowledge I managed to open myself up to allow different phases to unfold for different  behaviors of astral-matter. And so I started to explore every dimensional gateway that I could now much easily sense and adapt to. As it may hold guidance, or information that was hidden away before, on how to stabilize the particular and very specific recovering sanctuary that she had in mind. Otherwise she would never be able to reach it.

It appears, I've found, that the more out of reach of a certain part of your consciousness seems to be to a process that it is deeply connected with, the further it is drifting away from your reality, (and sometimes thus enters a separate one from a different entity) and the more stabilized the procedure  seems to  evolve the mechanism, that allows separate entities, under certain conditions to share information that otherwise would be impossible to gain awareness of. So in some cases being detached from an entity, that you feel should've been a soul mate of any kind, is actually vital to the survival of the chained cord which binds each separate awareness. For it is able to transmit the passionergy (passion influenced energy) by first meeting the thought-wave from the other source, half way of the destination . Which allows all of the entities to adapt their waves, with the information they received  from their partner as a backbone, before they arrive at each other's conscious minds.  
When these multiple entities are "forced" to be removed from each other, through repressed emotional barriers, or self constructed space or time in the astral, it in alot of cases makes it impossible for a save direct collision. Since that would cause too much of an instant friction reaction, when it travels a route that it's too indebt-ly committed to. If you don't have the advantage of being able to stabilize it from a distance, from which you can carefully view and study its profile, to help the subconscious discover what its mind's micro-evolution has to work on, so that it will be able escape the direct pull, of the part of consciousness that has its own reality already interwoven with it. Those parts should be avoided, and it's kind of like two highly charged nuclear "batteries" being exposed to each others + and + sides, during an abrupt close encounter. Under certain conditions,  it will backfire when it gets the chance. That's also the reason why I'm still not able to finish my girlfriend's recovering sanctuary yet, there's still too much of a direct cord, that won't allow us to astrally communicate via the subconscious, which is the only way to get unmasked messenges across for now. And as far a conscious connection goes,  I certainly won't dare to take that risk.

And about not being able to stay out very long; when you're starting out, you usually don't have a fluid connection with your physical body, from which you (atleast at first) are getting a lot of your energy. It will one moment not let much energy through at all. For example because that particular chakra might be a little more closed than another one. Which is making your subconscious think that this is the amount of energy it's going to receive today and nothing more. And then every once in a while it could send energy through a chakra that happends to be much more opened, (say you're heavily in love and  it reaches your heart-chakra) and release a sudden little burst of energy, which can overwhelm your subconscious, and it may think it is in danger of some kind. So it'll make you snap back in to your body. But you should try to make the circlulation of energy a little more consistent. You can do this in the following way; Next time you're projecting, when you're a couple of feet away from your body, just simply try to suck in energy from every one of its seven chakras, to fill up every spot on your point of awareness. Doing this requires nothing more then relaxing a little bit, looking and focussing on the individual place on the body where each chakra is located (starting from the base chakra, an ending with the crown chakra.) And then start to deeply and slowly "breath" in as much energy as you can (as if you'd have lungs that were very close to  collapsing the moment before they were dropped inside of a giant basket of oxygen filled rose peddles). While doing this try to see this energy as it enters you as well, for example as a purple or indigo electricly-charged gas cloud, that's mingling itself with your awareness. Then move your awareness a little to your side, and repeat the procedure. Eventually you'll start to see the cloudy energy-flow from your body will follow you pretty much wherever you go. And so you'll be able request a little bit of extra energy, from every point you want,  when you think your experience might end too shortly. Simply by thinking about it, while inhaling it toward you. Raising energy in the astral is much easier, and also feels more physical, than in the actual physical plane. Also when you're ready to project, just staying  in your body a little longer while being aware of the astral before you fully place your consciousness there, can help a lot. Especially if you raise energy while letting the vibrations, spread it all around and through you.

Oh and as far as barely being able to get passed the front door...have you tried turning the key? [:O]
If all else fails just go through the mail-box...although if you're projecting with a body, you might have to consider an astral diet...

[Selski]

Wow, that was some post.  I am truly sorry to hear of your loss.

I find your posts quite difficult to follow - but I think that they are beneficial to me, in that I am always reading things too fast and with your posts, I have to really read them properly, which means that I do absorb what you are saying.  Some of it is clearly over my head (due to me being way behind you in the astral progression side of things - and also due to me preferring more simple, easy-to-understand words).  However, I don't want you to change the way you write - I find it interesting and challenging []

I like the idea of taking energy from your physical body and am keen to try this out during my next OBE - I'll let you know how it goes.  One question on this point - I've often romanticised about astrally hugging a tree and requesting energy from the tree.  Any thoughts on this?  I haven't started any chakra work yet, but it is impending.

Another question for you.  I find that when I'm astral, I am still using my five senses to experience what is happening.  Would it be better to discard the senses, just like discarding the body, and JUST BE.  If this is the case, how do I interpret/distinguish/understand the experience?

Love your last comments about turning the key and going on an astral diet!  I think I'm still at that stage where I'm childishly amazed at being able to go through doors, so my energy is possibly used up by the time I get through them!!

Your thoughts, as ever, are appreciated.

Sarah

[Tantrika]

Yay! I've had a very similar experience:

I was in the Van Ness Muni station in San Francisco. I thought it was weird that I should see a BART train (a separate public transit system that does not use this station) coming into the station, and at that point I realized I was dreaming. I tried to use my conscious power to turn the train around, and when I did that I saw myself shrink up to an incredibly small point of consciousness (my body had completely disappeared.)

Really, that is what we are when we are dreaming and astral projecting, a barely perceptible point of consciousness travelling in the astral realm. We only have the sensation/appearance of having a body because we are so used to having one and the dreaming mind creates one for us.

[Selski]

I'd just like to share my 60th OBE with you all.  It is the first time I've dismissed the natural idea that I have a "second body" and it felt good.  Here it is.

I became aware of a noise.  It got louder.  I somehow thought I was lying in bed (again).  I realised the noise was a child running home from school.  I knew I was very close to being astral.  I relaxed more and listened to the running.  I felt the running was connected to my being astral.  Then I felt I was totally astral.

I rolled out of my body to the right.  I came away easily.  I was sat on the end of the bed.  I thought about Aphelion's post and how I shouldn't be thinking about being in a second "body", but that I should just be a point of consciousness.  I then decided I didn't want to think about that just now in case it aborted my experience!

I was off outside again and went through the front door, which is always a brilliant feeling.  I got outside and felt big and clumsy.  I wanted to fly.  I then knew what Aphelion was talking about.  I don't know how, but it all sort of fell into place.  I shook off my preconceptions of having a "body" and rose into the air.  I went passed our old pine tree and glided round the front of our house.  It was fantastic.  Really really fantastic.  I was just thinking about how fantastic it was and I even thought to myself that this is what Nay is talking about when she says she flies all over the place (I hadn't really grasped that, probably because I was always lumbering about in my "body") when I suddenly snapped back and awoke, tingling all over.

The experience lasted only a few seconds, but already I feel I've moved on, and cannot wait to learn to fly without a body!  Ha!

When I awoke, the noise that I heard was in actual fact the clock ticking.

Another magical day in the life of simplicity.

If Aphelion reads this - thanks a million! []

Hi ho.

Sarah