Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659

[karen659]

Being rather new to this forum, I thought I'd begin a new topic here that I can use to post my experiences as they happen.  All of my experiences to date over the past few years are also on my blog (www.karen659.blogspot.com) but I also like to share them on these forums so that as many readers as possible get the information.  I list the 'highlights' of my experiences at the top of the blog, but if anyone was to read through it all, you'd see how I've developed and grown in this realm.

This is the latest post, and I'm always eager to hear any insight anyone has.  Feel free to comment or email me...thanks for reading!
-Karen

3/6/11  140) Learning the Importance of Protection

For a little background on this OBE, I had decided I'd use my Hemi-sync MP3s that I used when I first started my OOB travels to see if there was any difference in experience with them now. 

My usual induction and visualization technique always involves surrounding myself with white light, using affirmations, and asking for help from those 'who are at or above my level of development.'   This time, however, I simply allowed the tapes to lead me into relaxation and the proper mind state as I drifted off. 

My first recollection for this OBE was a dream where I was caring for my son in his younger years.   I became aware when I felt a sensation of 'hands' placed on my hips.  I have felt these hands before and was not concerned at all, as it gave me the lucidity I needed to know I was about to get OOB. 

Feeling a 'push' on my bottom, I thought, 'well, maybe they are trying to help push me out' and took the initiative and rolled out to my right.  I found myself climbing out of bed OOB and could even 'hear' the sound of my foot as it landed on the floor!! 

I thought this was quite odd as I don't usually hear physical type sounds associated with getting out of body, and in looking around, realized I was in my bedroom from long ago before the house was remodeled.   (In actuality, I was on the living room couch as usual!)   This bedroom, however, was the same bedroom that would have corresponded with the younger age of my son in the dream just prior.

Just happy to be out of body again, I tried to move to the living room but was surprised to feel 'disoriented' and unsure of where I was going.  I even remember thinking, 'Why can't I think clearly?' but did not remember to do the 'stay aware' that I just learned in the previous OBE!    I did, however, continue to feel a very tight arm around my waist, knowing whomever was holding me was immediately behind me and very, very close!

Things felt 'heavy' and 'thick' but I managed to get into the living room, still held tightly by this individual and making my movements difficult.   Now I feel a second hand moving to my upper chest against my breast and I become a bit concerned.  I am not afraid, but also not feeling as though this is something 'good' happening.

I hear a loud 'guttural' type sound from within the room and then a male voice in my right ear saying something like, 'they know we are here'.  I didn't understand all his words or meaning and told him, "I cannot hear you!" asking him twice to repeat what he was saying.  I just couldn't get the full meaning of his words.

Becoming suspicious of something being amiss, I turned quickly to face whoever was holding me so close from behind and talking into my ear.  I could clearly see a young man, light complexion, thin, small eyes, with sandy colored hair parted nearly in the middle, looking at me smiling.  It was not a 'warm' friendly smile and I felt concerned.

My guard was up, but surprisingly, felt NO fear.  I asked him 'Who are you?' and "Are of a part of my higher self?"   Not really sure if these were the right questions as my thoughts were still not clear, I then remembered what William Buhlman had told us to do should you face someone of questionable character, asking "What do you represent?"  (Those who are of the Light will respond, those who are less than desirable cannot lie nor remain).  I saw his face distort slightly, and then he disappeared!

Immediately after, I pulled back to full awareness, and thought about what just happened.

In hindsight, I realized I did not do my usual induction to include the 'white light of protection' and a request for those 'at or above my level of development', having used just the Hemi-sync MP3s to induce.  Likely I was in a very 'near-physical' dimension where a 'less-than-desirable' entity may have been waiting.  I was never afraid, but I knew something wasn't right.   

Although I rarely encounter these 'lower level' entities, it is important that you always know who you are dealing with when OOB. Asking them 'what do you represent?' will give you the insight as to their intentions.  My lesson here was that this visualization of white light with a protection request should remain a key part of my induction routine!

[NoY]

A nice account thanks for sharing 



:NoY:

[Pauli2]

My usual induction and visualization technique always involves surrounding myself with white light,
using affirmations, and asking for help from those 'who are at or above my level of development.' 
This time, however, I simply allowed the tapes to lead me into relaxation and the proper
mind state as I drifted off. 

I actually ask for helpers or guides who knows "more than me, as much as me or less than me".
The "less than" part is because I think that there can be helpers that in fact knows less than
me in one type of sense, but they have the ability to help me in a way I can't do myself.
I've not been able to do this successfully before any OBE, but so far it seems to have
worked on the "imagination method" retrievals I've done.

I may change my approach if things go bad. I will return with a comment on the forum,
if this happens in the future.

I became aware when I felt a sensation of 'hands' placed on my hips.  I have felt these hands
before and was not concerned at all, as it gave me the lucidity I needed to know I was about
to get OOB. 

Feeling a 'push' on my bottom, I thought, 'well, maybe they are trying to help push me out' and
took the initiative and rolled out to my right.  I found myself climbing out of bed OOB and
could even 'hear' the sound of my foot as it landed on the floor!! 

. . .

I did, however, continue to feel a very tight arm around my waist, knowing whomever
was holding me was immediately behind me and very, very close!

I'm just guessing now, but when someone is able to push you out-of-body, I would actually
assume it is some part of the Total/Higher Self. I don't think I've read anyone being pushed
OBE by someone they don't are connected to in a good way.

Being pushed/pulled out can be due to the reason you have too low non-physical energy to be able
to go OBE on your own. So you get a little help to OBE.

Monroe also experienced this and also at some occasion got help moving
back into body.

Things felt 'heavy' and 'thick' but I managed to get into the living room, still held tightly
by this individual and making my movements difficult.   Now I feel a second hand moving
to my upper chest against my breast and I become a bit concerned.  I am not afraid,
but also not feeling as though this is something 'good' happening.

The touch to the chest could be some kind of energy transfer or transformation to
you heart energy center. For example Jürgen Ziewe has written about how his heart center
was rubbed by the foot of a guide. Ziewe also learnt a new language. See ->
http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/FAQ_about_out_of_body_experiences_and_life_after_death.html
"Meeting the master" question.
Or look at the video "Levels of Consciousness" at 20:00 - 20:40 & around 22:00 ->
http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Testimony_of_life_after_death_videos_2.html

Becoming suspicious of something being amiss, I turned quickly to face whoever was holding me
so close from behind and talking into my ear.  I could clearly see a young man, light complexion,
thin, small eyes, with sandy colored hair parted nearly in the middle, looking at me smiling.
It was not a 'warm' friendly smile and I felt concerned.

Going to the Moen school and similar, you could have tried to send PUL to the person or
the full area where you were to make it change. If this was a less good entity it will not
change into something better. If it is a helper/guide, his smile will improve if you send him PUL.

My guard was up, but surprisingly, felt NO fear.  I asked him 'Who are you?' and "Are of a part of my higher self?" 
Not really sure if these were the right questions as my thoughts were still not clear, I then remembered what
William Buhlman had told us to do should you face someone of questionable character, asking
"What do you represent?"  (Those who are of the Light will respond, those who are less than desirable
cannot lie nor remain).  I saw his face distort slightly, and then he disappeared!

This seems to be a very good advice from Buhlman. I have to remember it. "What do you represent?"

Perhaps he tried to answer you, but you were running out of non-physical energy?

The whole event could be some kind of test to see how far you've reached in personal growth,
when on low energy?

[Xanth]

Heya Karen!

Welcome to the Astral Pulse.

I just wanted to say that I follow your blog. It's really well done and your posts are always so good! 

[Greytraveller]

Hallo Karen and welcome.
I too follow your blog. (You might remember me from other forums.)

btw If you have time then you might want to respond to my OBE Exit Poll. It's in the "Welcome to Out Of Body Experiences Forum". If you already responded in another website then thanx and don't bother here. 

Regards
Grey

[karen659]

Oh my gosh! I had no idea I had replies to my post here!! I'll have to figure out how to set that up so I am notified!!  THANK YOU everyone SO MUCH for the replies and the comments...I can learn so much from everyone, and I'm hoping that by sharing my experiences, others may learn from me.

I have to be more careful in checking back for responses...I'm so sorry I've overlooked them! 

Now, onto the the next post where I'm adding my latest....hang in for more!

Thanks again...
Karen

[karen659]

3/27/11     141) Easy Exit, Seeing Conversations, Little Man, Recorder Use

It's been a few weeks since my last OBE, and I know I truly am thankful for the clarity and easy exit I experienced with this one.  I just can't explain how joyful I was to be out once again, to feel the gentleness and peace this out-of-body travel gives me.  Although it is not clear what I learned from this, I am always assured some learning has occurred and I'll share it with you despite its lack of 'action'.

I awoke as usual with the intention of traveling, moving to the couch and doing my usual induction routine.  As usual, I drift off to sleep, but am made aware of a 'goose bumps' sensation that is coursing up and down my body.  It feels like a buzzing or vibrating sensation and I am enjoying just trying to keep it going, but then realize, 'hey, this just might be the vibrational stage of an OBE!' and so I just take control and try to roll out.

I'm thrilled to find myself easily rolling out and standing by my couch in the living room! I try to move, but find it 'heavy' and I fall to the floor, but notice that my vision is so clear! I can see the wooden floor and the detail of the grain next to my face, so I try to pull up.  It's difficult when I try to 'physically' stand but I know I can just 'float' up and so I intend that, and find myself easily floating up by the ceiling looking down!

With the vision is so clear, I notice my stairs to the bedroom and move to them.  I float easily up the stairs, wondering now if maybe I could see my husband as he sleeps.  Moving into the bedroom, I see the 'lump' in the bed, but noticing the glass sliding doors to my upper porch, I now want to just get outdoors.

As I near the doors, I turn and look back at the mirrored closet, thinking maybe I'd like to see what I look like.  It was rather dark from across the room and decide it's really not that big a deal to see.  Instead I just pushed out with my back against the glass doors to get outside.

Immediately, I can feel the 'cool' air change as I passed through the glass easily.  I'm overlooking my yard on the second floor porch, and am thrilled to jump over the railing and just float gently down!  I remember thinking this is just SO peaceful and comforting to do...that I wished I could do it 'in real life' as well! I recall thinking, "wouldn't it be great to just 'fall off' the porch and take the time to enjoy the fall?"

I floated to the edge of my yard, just basking in the happiness of being out again, but as always, I feel I must do something 'constructive' with my experience.  I stop and try to think where it was that I wanted to go, not really clear in knowing what I wanted to do.  I had thought of a few choices prior but never specifically 'intended' one place. 

I decided I'd do what has always worked for me, knowing that I should be using this OOB experience for my own learning.  Instead of 'to my Higher Self' as I have done previously, I asked to taken to 'where I need to learn', not sure why I worded it this way.

Once again, I immediately felt the long black tunnel and a sense of movement.  When it stopped, I found myself in a parking lot at night, hearing and seeing the highway traffic lights just a short distance away.  I turned to look around, and now found myself walking toward a group of people, no longer in darkness.

There were children and adults here, and I felt it was a type of social activity for some sort of Little League or sports type team, as most of the children and parents were wearing a light blue T-shirt type uniform.  It felt like a fundraising event, with various games and activities going on.

My recollection here starts to become a bit hazy, knowing I was there interacting in some way, but do not know specific details.  I did not feel as though I 'fit in' here, but I also felt that these people knew vaguely who I was but did not get a sense of 'closeness' to them.

I remember talking to a young man who was behind a counter, in a concessions type stand, selling food.  We knew each other, but not on a 'close' level as I was eager to help him with his work.  Once inside the building, I remember seeing an anteroom that had some things on the floor that I wanted to remember, maybe some sort of equipment, but I cannot recall details.

Leaving the building, I'm walking around just noticing the conversations that were going on with these people.  I could somehow 'see' their conversations, knowing when things were being said that may have been hurtful or unkind.  I could 'see' how it affected them and wondered if they even knew how their words were 'damaging' the other person's 'appearance'.  (There just aren't words to describe what I saw/felt here.)  I found it fascinating to watch, and knew that it is our thoughts as well as words that make such an impact on everyone around us.

This next part is a bit more confusing, and I'll apologize in advance, as it may be a bit repulsive to some. I know it was for me. 

I find myself talking to this small person, someone very familiar in some way.  I know I've taken care of him before, but he looked different this time.   I'm talking to him as I pick him up to carry with me.  I feel a need to care for him as no one else is paying much attention to him.  I thought it was a small child, however, he mentions something about 'used to have a beard' and 'hair on his chest' which gave me the indication this was a grown man in a very small body.

He was not well as he had a problem with coughing and keeping the mucus and phlegm under control.  I was using tons of tissues to catch the mucus as it bubbled out his mouth, barely able to contain my own nausea as I cared for him.  It truly was gross to deal with, as I know this was always something I've had a difficult time dealing with even as a nurse in real life.

We are next to a truck that has kids in the front seat, and I watch as the father gets out sharing his drink with another 'little person' that is sitting on the front hood.  I try to discard the tissues I have, only to see that the mucus and tissues do not reach the bin and get all over the truck.

The experience starts to 'fuzz' a little bit, and with my queasiness, I decide I'm going to pull back and awaken.    I truly don't know what this last bit was all about.  The easy exit and 'visual' conversations were quite interesting, but this was such a gross ending to the whole experience!

What I want to tell everyone is that if it were not for my little voice recorder that I have on me each time I 'travel', I would not be able to  remember even these few details.  I'd like to share what I do so that others can try to see if it helps with their recall.

I have a very small digital voice recorder, about 1" x 4", that I bring with me to the couch.  I have learned that once you awaken from an experience, the more you move and the more you wake, the more you will forget! 

Therefore, before I start my induction, I will either place this recorder in a pocket on my chest, or roll it up in a sleeve of my night clothes.  The key is that it must be accessible without much movement of your arms once awake. 

When I realize I'm fully awake (and sometimes this is difficult with many false awakenings!), I slowly move one hand to get the recorder.  It has easy buttons to push without opening my eyes to look at it, and I start backward in recalling the events of the experience, without moving and without opening my eyes.  I try to 'fade back' into the scenes to recall as much as I can.

Initially, I use only a single word or two that describes the entire chronological experience from ending to beginning, and then once the single words are done, start describing it in more detail.  Many times when I play back the recording, I find these short words from my just-waking state will 'jog' memories of another forgotten segment!  This backward recall works best for me, using what I remember most to pull up the details of what came just before it.

I now think at some point I may change over to a voice-activated recorder, but for now, this works well and I wanted to share my tips and techniques with everyone.

-Karen
www.karen659.blogspot.com

[karen659]

Just wanted to share a wonderful post from a friend on another forum...such great insight as to my last OBE ...it 'feels' so right! Thanks Oliver!

Hello, Karen.

I think the highway parking lot indicates that you transferred your consciousness to the astral plane at least, the highway denoting a way to travel between different nonphysical locations. This travel is comparatively fast, like travelling on a freeway, but maybe not very fast, like on the mental plane. Although, coming to think of it, the instantaneous nature of your travel is also to be considered.

The fact that you can see, sense and interpret both the energy/information exchanges and the change this causes in another person's energy field, denotes also the activity of the inner senses in a higher body, at least the astral. Noteworthy is that you observed the emotional impact of the exchanges, in this case of the grosser, more coarse (and also hurtful) emotions (probably easier to observe).

As a nurse it is not surprising that you have natural ability as a healer, and you bring it to bear here. The mucus extracted is probably negative emotional energy, a healing service you provide to somebody else's energy body. The astral body can become overloaded with such negative material and you basically emptied that one out. Conjuring up a container or a smelter might help in such a process the next time if you can remember to do so.

The little person with the adult personality might denote that the person you are helping has retained some past life memories before incarnating, or even needs such a cleanse to incarnate. Babies can appear in the astral as both adults (personality from former lives, for example) and babies, and often an intermix of attributes of both. The astral elemental might retain such characteristics from a former life if they need to be tackled in the present lifetime, and maybe your healing had to do with just that. Like helping the little guy release something he needed to get rid off in this lifetime to have a clean slate for new learning, breaking out of a habit (phlegm-atic: the inability to break out of a rut).

So, the learning probably pertained to using your energy/information skills (observing and translating such exchanges) and your healing abilities.

Very beautiful detailed experience in your bedroom and your yard.

Cheers,
Oliver

[karen659]

4/3/11    142) Experiencing Dual Consciousness - On Another Level

In order to give a little background on this experience, I want to mention that I have been reading and thinking a bit more about what exactly this 'out of body' experience is.  I realize now what is easiest for us to understand is that we somehow 'create' or extrude this other 'body' and use it to maneuver the astral planes. 

Despite knowing there was much more to this 'exit' than this simple assumption, I never thought more about it, instead choosing to just enjoy the experience and learn how to navigate this realm with different methods.

Now, with reading Ophiel's book from the early years of astral travel, I find a slightly different understanding of what I am doing, especially after this experience.   I've always known there was a change in 'awareness' and 'consciousness' when I rolled out, leaving my physical body behind, but never thought more of it. 

I now think there is so much more to this simple 'act' than one can understand.  It is not simply a 'transition' to a new astral 'body', but a transfer of awareness (aka consciousness) to another level of awareness, hence can be done at any time and on multiple levels.

This 'dual consciousness' sensation I have felt before, in the 'astral vision' where I was lying on my bed aware of 'seeing' and participating in another experience, feeling both my physical body and this etheric body. (see #16 on my blog - http://karen659.blogspot.com/2007/08/astral-vision.html)  In a sense, this would be a physical-etheric interface, whereas what I believe I experienced here in this OBE was on another level where perhaps it was an astral-etheric interface on another level.

There is much I am not writing about in this OBE as it was on level with activities that only I can personally relate to. However, I am sharing the part that was most interesting in learning more about this 'transfer' of consciousness and state of 'be-ing'.

The beginning of the experience started much as usual, with the joyful sensation of vibrations beginning as I lie on my couch.  However, just as I was willing the vibrations to increase, I become aware of someone walking toward the couch. 

Having had this many times, I have learned to just wait and see who it was.  I was so surprised to 'see' it was my husband, and he was most adamant about me getting up and taking care of some things.  I remember now being disappointed at the loss of vibrations and a potential OBE, and got up to do what I needed to do.

At this point, in hindsight, I realize I was now out of body, but totally unaware of my 'state of be-ing'.  In a dreamlike environment, I moved through different activities that felt 'real' and usual. (In hindsight, as I recorded these activities, however, I am amazed that I did not pick up on the some of the QUITE unusual events!)

The part that was most interesting is finding 'myself' at a medical seminar, the kind I have attended in physical life many times.  Sitting at the table, preparing to pack up and leave, my first 'clear' recollection of something amiss was when I got up to pick up some items behind me.

Looking back at the table where I came from, I was AMAZED to see MYSELF still sitting there, working on something at the table! I remember thinking, 'oh! I must have rolled out of body when I got up!' and was happy to know I was out, but was a bit confused as to how my 'other body' was awake, yet I was here!

So I walk up to my'self', and turn to face me, wondering if maybe this other 'self' had fallen asleep (since that is generally the only time I know I'm OOB!)  But, I can now see the wide-awake shocked expression of my 'seated self' seeing myself standing in front of me!  Yet at the same time, I am also 'aware' of the shocked thoughts at seeing myself in front of me! What a sensation!! It was similar to the 'astral vision' experiences, but with an even deeper level of immediate understanding.

I believe I had assumed this 'dream-body' level of awareness as the 'true me' until I felt the transition to the other 'out of body' level of awareness. Then, upon facing myself, I found I was both, the same and at once!  I'm sorry this is so confusing, but at the time, it was not as difficult to understand as it is to put into words!

Now, the sad fact is that I did not keep this 'other awareness' and moved back into the 'dream-body' level of awareness and resumed my activities in preparing to leave the seminar.  I remember thinking I had driven myself there alone, and as it was about 5:30 pm, I knew I had to leave soon as I had a 4-5 hour drive home.

It was only upon awakening fully into the physical state was I able to realize this other 'awareness' of being out of body, while I was out of body! Usually I find myself in a familiar local environment in an out of body 'mindstate' or 'wake up' within a dream anomaly to full 'consciousness' of my OOB state.  This time, I remained in this dreamstate, but able to move my consciousness back and forth between my dream-state character and another out-of-body awareness. Quite unusual! 

[Pauli2]

Karen, this seemed like a Robert Bruce mind-split effect, with a little different environment than he describes here: http://www.astraldynamics.com/home/astral-projection-training/treatise-on-astral-projection/67-part-7.html

[Xanth]

That's a great experience Karen!

My personal beliefs are that we are consciousness, and that consciousness can exist in multiple realities at once.  In your case, you experienced the physical reality and the 'etheric' reality.  It's the multidimensional nature of our true selves, the self of us that is pure consciousness. 

It actually happens quite often... I had one such experience this past weekend.  Though it was only a dream awareness experience... I was sitting in an aisle in a grocery store and I felt 'someone' walk up behind me.  I initially believed it to be someone who worked at the store... yet, as I woke up, I realized that it was actually my girlfriend walking up behind me.  I was within a dream experience, yet at the same time I was bring in aspects from this physical reality into the dream.  We do this quite often throughout our lives. 

When I was younger, I used to get up out of bed often and my room would still have much of the dream imagery in it.  So much so, that I was actually still fully dreaming.  This is another example of experiencing more than one reality simultaneously.

Our consciousness is such an amazing thing.  Keep up the good work!  I look forward to reading more! 

[karen659]

Karen, this seemed like a Robert Bruce mind-split effect, with a little different environment than he describes here: http://www.astraldynamics.com/home/astral-projection-training/treatise-on-astral-projection/67-part-7.html

Yes, Pauli2, very similar...and thanks for the link.  What was SO different about this 'mind-split' for me was that I've had the physical and astral interface split before, knowing I was physical and also seeing 'out' in the astral doing things, but this time it felt a bit 'deeper' in the sense that I was almost 'splitting off' from the astral body into another 'body' (mental?).  At the time, I could 'sense' both aspects of me on a very intense level, knowing and understanding both sides of ME at once! So unusual! 

Thanks for the post,
Karen

[karen659]

That's a great experience Karen!

My personal beliefs are that we are consciousness, and that consciousness can exist in multiple realities at once.  In your case, you experienced the physical reality and the 'etheric' reality.  It's the multidimensional nature of our true selves, the self of us that is pure consciousness. 

It actually happens quite often... I had one such experience this past weekend.  Though it was only a dream awareness experience... I was sitting in an aisle in a grocery store and I felt 'someone' walk up behind me.  I initially believed it to be someone who worked at the store... yet, as I woke up, I realized that it was actually my girlfriend walking up behind me.  I was within a dream experience, yet at the same time I was bring in aspects from this physical reality into the dream.  We do this quite often throughout our lives. 

When I was younger, I used to get up out of bed often and my room would still have much of the dream imagery in it.  So much so, that I was actually still fully dreaming.  This is another example of experiencing more than one reality simultaneously.

Our consciousness is such an amazing thing.  Keep up the good work!  I look forward to reading more! 

Thanks Xanth for sharing!  I agree...I feel we are 'pure consciousness' in our true form, and it can recognize ourselves across many levels of reality if we are capable of understanding with our 'physical mind' to that degree.  I'm sure there is MUCH more depth to our 'awareness' than we can even fathom, but it's the glimpses we get with experiences such as these that keep us looking for more!     I feel OBEs are so much more than just a 'consciousness separation' into another 'body' ...as we are never truly separate from the multiple reality levels that exist all at once, it is just our ability to 'understand' that stops us.  This was definitely one of my most unusual experiences...to see me seeing me but neither 'body' being physical!!

Check out the next post here as I'd like to share a very insightful comment from a good friend...that talks about the dream imagery and our different 'bodies'...

Thanks again!
Karen

[karen659]

I'd just like to share here a very insightful post from a good friend who has always had the gift of understanding this process better than I...it was difficult enough to write what I experienced, but now with his help, I can understand it much better too!! Thanks Oliver!


Hello, Karen.

I think it's possible that this encounter occurred in the astral and mental bodies.

On the astral plane you experience normal dreams. You naturally switch your consciousness over into your astral body during sleep. The unresolved issues and emotions from the day start to act as powerful attractors for the surrounding the astral matter. A dream environment forms. This dream environment is experienced non-lucidly by the astral body and can facilitate a release of these energies. The astral body experiences this as real without question.

Seeing yourself in the dream environment indicates that your consciousness is not in the astral body. For one thing you can observe yourself from outside. This requires another body. Your switching back and forth between the bodies validates that - these are indeed both vehicles of your own consciousness awareness.

And this second body does not form a dream environment of its own! The astral body attracts this dream environment because it is of the same "matter" as the astral plane. The higher bodies are not - they are composed of the matter of the mental plane. They would not form a dream environment on the astral plane because - in the theosophical model of understanding - they are not of the matter of that plane.

So, that would be my guess. The etheric body - to my understanding - does not form a dream environment. According to Kurt two energy bodies are usually developed in tandem - so you can develop the etheric and astral bodies in parallel, and here you might be developing the astral and mental bodies in parallel. The higher body is then occasionally "glimpsed" while the lower body is the focus most of the time.

Kurt reports an experience with three bodies present in "Otherwhere" - I think. It's at least in one of his books, and might also be repeated in "The Multi-Dimensional Human." Robert reports a powerful "telepathic feedback" experience in AD when he encountered his own astral body. While I have not met myself, I have switched between different "levels" of myself during experiences as well.

Cheers,
Oliver

[karen659]

143) Morning OBE from Astral Vision; Attempt at Meeting       4/7/11   

This OBE was again unusual, in that I wasn't truly sure it WAS an OBE, until I remembered specific details that would not have occurred if I was 'just dreaming'. 

Waking this morning, I realized I had no reason to get up right away, and so wanted to try to see if I could meet up astrally with a friend whom I chat with online.  I know I've 'met up' with others in physical before on my blog, but there is always some degree of uncertainty with it. 

Usually with this 'just awakening' time, I get a lot of astral vision type experiences, not always full OBEs.

I soon DID get an 'astral vision' where I knew I was on the bed AND viewing some sort of scene in front of me, but then I thought that maybe I could use THAT awareness to try to convert it to an OBE!

I was able to drift deeper, and was thrilled to feel vibrations! I knew I was going to!  BUT...I am aware now that I'm in a different bed and bedroom!! One from my childhood, the last one I had before I married and moved out....I knew it wasn't 'right' but I didn't want to question the vibrations and so I just rolled off and out!

Very easily, I was standing SO CLEAR on the side of THAT bed, and moved down the hallway out of the room, knowing I could put my hand through the wall to check if I wanted to (and did!) and then moved to the outside upstairs porch area (which is actually no longer there!)  I took the time to 'feel' the glass as I passed through the door, a specific clue I was OOB.

Once on the porch, I affirmed intensely that I wanted to go see my friend! I mentally screamed the name as I let myself 'fall' off the second story porch, again knowing I was OOB and could not get hurt. 

I was very disappointed to see that all I did was drift down to the ground.  I noticed it had just rained, a few young children were riding their bikes on the road in front of the house, and looking up I could see TWO beautiful rainbows! It all felt SO physical and out-of-body, as I consciously thought if I could remember the fact about the kids on the bikes and the rainbows, someone could verify it did happen that day once I returned to body!

So I try to fly, finding it difficult, but finally 'letting go' and allowing myself to float up, again affirming the name and the intention to meet.

BUT...<sigh>....I now find myself back in the bed (in my childhood bedroom), annoyed because someone is at the door giving me back my clean laundry in a bin, but all in disarray.  I get upset with her and slam the door, starting to clean up my belongings in the bedroom and fixing the laundry, only to realize the radio is on and I can HEAR my friend's voice talking!  I know it's him as there is a distinct accent and we've talked on the phone before.

I am so upset to think that I just had a chance to go 'see' him, but now he's still ONLY here across the electronic medium!!!  I wished I had paid attention to exactly what he was talking about so maybe I could verify it. It wasn't directed to me on the radio, but mentioned something about telling another male how to do something correctly.... I just didn't listen that carefully!

When I woke for real, finding myself in my own bed now, I at first wondered if it truly had been an OBE, but then, in review, I could remember thinking so clearly about things that would not have happened if it had been 'just a dream'.

So I supposed you could say I was barely successful in that I DID hear him talking, but it was quite unusual to have it from an OBE that occurred within an environment from my youth.  Also, I am happy to know that I can use my 'astral vision' to convert to an OBE if I wanted to!

www.karen659.blogspot.com

[Harry R]

Greetings. Good to see Karen surfacing again, be it elsewhere. Karen use to post
her experiences on a yahoo group on astral traveling that I'm a member of. She
comes well recommended. Regards. Harry.

[karen659]

Greetings. Good to see Karen surfacing again, be it elsewhere. Karen use to post
her experiences on a yahoo group on astral traveling that I'm a member of. She
comes well recommended. Regards. Harry.

Thank you Harry for your kind words.....I'm still around...

Karen

[karen659]

2011_04_22     144) Visit with Unusual Exit; Seeing Buddy Again

I have been having another 'dry spell' with my OBEs, likely due to increased workload and less 'intent' than usual.  However, I always know that they are never far away, and always ready to offer a learning experience, despite my inability at times to figure exactly what that learning is!

I did go to sleep last night with the intent of having an experience.  I awoke easily on my own about 3am and went to the couch.  My first awareness of 'something happening' began this time as a gentle push from behind as I slept on my side.

I realized there were hands on my lower back and bottom, trying to roll me over and get my attention.  I remember feeling a bit 'concerned' as this physical sensation of 'hands on my body' is a rare enough occurrence that it takes a bit of control to not get too fearful or excited.

I took control at this point and asked, 'who is there?' and sat up on the couch.  I see a young man sitting beside me, smiling, and ask his name.  I feel a familiarity with his presence, and after a long conversation (of which I have no recall due to the following false awakening!), I do remember feeling very affectionate with him, kissing and cuddling for a short bit.

What was unusual, though, was the way he left.  Most times when I'm visited, the entity just disappears or there is a change in focus that I lose track of them.  This time, I distinctly remember his leaving.  He got up from the couch, said something about having to get 'back to the office(?)' and went to my large picture window.

Facing it, he said a few words (as if it was needed for him to pass through), put out his hand to make sure he could pass through, and then moved easily through the window to the outdoors.  This impressed me enough that it's about all that I can recall from our meeting.  I wondered why he felt he needed this 'mantra' to pass through the window.  Is it possible this was not an 'otherwordly' entity, but someone from 'physical' visiting me? That's the feeling I was left with after seeing that exit.

I was excited to get the conversation recorded when he left, and went for my recorder.  I remember feeling the gentle nudge of a dog's nose in my arm as I was watching this visitor leave, and didn't realize until I was looking for my recorder that it was my dog Buddy back for a visit!!! (Buddy passed over last summer)

Once the 'awareness' of his presence kicked in, I was SO excited!! I called him, he came right over again, wagging his tail and shaking his body like he used to do so happily when he would greet me after a long absence!!! It WAS him, there was no doubt in my mind, and I was so happy!

While I'm petting him, I'm thinking, wow, maybe I can also ask to see other former pets I've had, and started calling out for a cat I had as a child.  Calling, 'here kitty, kitty!' I can still remember the sound of my 'voice' as I called.

Now, what happened next shows how your 'real life' situations can interfere with your ability to retain full awareness of what is happening.  In calling for the kitten, I start to think that maybe the kitten I have now (in real life) may come instead and wake me! I start to worry that I may be awakened before I can get the first experience recorded.

Now, instead of the kitten coming, I hear my husband's footsteps on the stairs coming down into the living room, and I am now CERTAIN that I am awake (which of course, I wasn't!).

I talk with him, feeling rather upset that there is a delay in recording of my visit with the young man. (Of course, you don't want to be recording a visit with another man in front of your husband!!  Lol)

We talk for a while, and I never pick up on the fact that he's wearing clothes that aren't right for him.  I am so focused on the distress of the delay that I am not aware of my 'still dreaming' status.

At one point I feel a 'pull back' to awareness, signaling my true wakefulness.  I try desperately to 'fade back' into the experience with the young man to try to recall our conversation, but with absolutely no luck.  All I remember is his arrival and his exit, with my wonderful visit with Buddy thereafter.

[karen659]

145) New Location to Exit; Buddy and Animal Visit; Using Signal to Continue

With this experience you will note there is a definite lack of recall but as always, there was new learning for me!

I knew this time would be unusual because I was alone for the entire night so I decided I would try to stay in my bed instead of moving to the couch in the living room, which is my usual routine.  I awoke after a few hours' sleep, and then tried to induce.

My first recollection is hazy, as I found myself out of body already, but thinking I was in the living room, felt confused because something was different!  I remembered I wanted to turn and look at myself (a goal I had set prior), but when I did, there was difficulty getting my orientation.  (Likely because I was in my bedroom and completely unfamiliar with being OOB there!)

I could see a hazy outline, but with all the confusion and thought processes going on, I worried that by thinking too much I'd ruin my experience and get pulled back in.  So I affirmed 'to the outdoors!' which allowed me to instantaneously 'be' out of the room into the darkness and flying around as usual, zooming up to trees and just enjoying myself!

Now that I'm 'out', I asked to be taken to 'where I need to learn' (which is always an easy goal when I'm not sure what I wanted to do).  Now, here is where my memories get a bit limited, as you will see likely due to the second part of this night!

I remember blackness and hearing voices, then one particular female voice who was telling me all that we were going to do as we moved together to go somewhere.  The ONLY words I recall here is 'a review of time', meaning that we were going to discuss how 'time/space' interacts with all that is.  This has been an ongoing discussion I've had with my friend mentioned below, and how 'time' is relative to where it's being perceived.

I'm guessing what else she was telling me related to the other topics we would be learning that night, but I cannot remember any other words NOR can I remember anything further from that specific experience.  It is just total blank at that point.

My next recall was being 'dropped down' to a field near my home, where I could savor the 'feel' of the grass and texture of the ground.  I remember thinking how amazing it was to know I was out of body, yet could still touch and feel such physical sensations.

I then hear voices and see a car's headlights moving down the road toward me.  I get the feeling that 'something is amiss' and yet I feel no fear.  Actually, I became even a bit defiant in that I wanted to prove to myself there is nothing to fear while OOB, so I headed for the middle of the road and faced the oncoming headlights!  I'll admit, I can still remember there was that 'twinge' of concern that maybe I'm not OOB, but ultimately I didn't have to make a decision because the car just pulled over to the side of road just before it got to me!

I'm still a bit confused as to what happened next, as I remember voices, a feeling of 'concern',  and then excitement as I feel my dog Buddy (who passed last year) standing close to me, pressing against my legs!  I reach down and pet him, and somehow know he's there to protect me!

The next recollection was of lying in bed once again, but STILL with my Buddy draped across my chest! I move my hands to pet him, as I know he's there for a reason.   While lying there, I now hear animals of all kinds in my room making such a noise! My association with this is that I must be in an area where animals are being treated, as it 'feels' as though it's a veterinarian's office of sorts. 

I hear a male voice speaking to me off to my right, but in what I perceive to be a completely unknown language! He's talking and telling me so much, and I'm trying to interrupt him and say 'I'm sorry but I don't understand your language'!  The sound of the different animals makes it even harder to try to understand!

Now I feel a 'pull-back'...and know I'm becoming awake in my bed.  Buddy is gone, and I search for my voice recorder.  Finding it, I start fumbling once again with the controls, getting upset that it seems to not be working right again!

In a moment of clear lucidity, however, I realize...'hey! This is the same false awakening I always have!' and use it to consciously roll out, off the bed, and into my near physical environment.  This time I know I'm in my bedroom and move easily through the sliding door to the outdoors.

Once on the upstairs porch outside, I affirm that I want to go visit my friend and call him by name!  For a few brief moments, however, I am given the 'knowingness' that should I continue, I'll likely lose quite a bit of the first part of this experience!  My determination to have some sort of 'validated' meeting with my friend makes me continue on and I fly upward toward the stars. 

Now amongst the beautiful twinkling stars, I realize that I'm beginning a pull-back once again.  I'm disappointed to find myself waking, this time to full wakefulness, without having had the opportunity to complete my visit.  What was interesting, though, was a feeling of 'pulsating' circling type of energetic pressure all around my third eye area as I awoke.  This type of energy movement was new to me this experience.

I am given the knowing, that despite the limited physical recall, this was an 'important step' in my learning.  The bare minimum I feel I've learned was to consciously recall the frequent false awakening 'signal' to continue on!  In hindsight, I believe more was learned, but not retained consciously.  However, this little step was enough for me!

[karen659]

146) Stone Labyrinth to Bedroom; Meeting Others and Higher Being with Gifts

I am going to give just the highlights from the two most recent OBE's I've had, as each had a lot of 'dream-like' symbolism that involved personal details that I feel wouldn't have much meaning for anyone other than me.  But in both experiences, there were parts that I'm happy to share as I there was new learning and some happy memories.

5/15/11
This first one started as a dream sequence, with some sort of day-to-day actions, but at once point I found myself quickly placed into a cold stone or cement type room which brought me to full awareness that I was out of body. 

I felt stiff and heavy, and although my awareness knew I was out of body, I felt trapped and frozen in this dreary room.   Asking for help, I was happy to feel I was being lifted up and carried, even if it was not under my own power.  I let go and found myself floating gently backward again in complete darkness in what felt to be a black tunnel.

My vision started to clear and I turned to face forward and found myself leisurely floating down a cave-like tunnel that had beautiful stone formations all along the sides.  My feeling was that this was a sort of labyrinth going deeply into the Earth.  My vision cleared more and I could see beautiful colors – soft blues, reds, and gray – in spectacular patterns all around the stone formations on the walls. 

During the gentle float, I went up to a particularly beautiful stone formation near the ceiling above and put out my hands to feel for it.  I was amazed at how clearly I could FEEL the stone! It felt cool and rough, much like I expected, but with such a 'physical' sense that I marveled how I could do this while out of body!

I glanced at my hands at they felt the formation, and was surprised to see tiny little 'bubbles', almost like a 'fizzing' appearance, surrounding my hands! My thoughts were that it appeared to be similar to how the tiny bubbles appear around objects when under water, and thought, "wow, am I under water?"

I didn't stay and analyze my hands or question my findings, as I knew too much focus and questioning will make me return to body quickly!  I proceeded onward, and now realize that there is someone with me, holding my right hand as we near a doorway.

We stopped at the doorway, holding hands, and peer inside.  It registers as a 'bedroom', quite unlike the stone labyrinth I l just left.  There is a bed across the room, with some sort of 'object' in the middle of it.  I sense another 'being' standing near the object on the bed, feeling as though it's some sort of caretaker.  I ask, "where are we?" and "who is this?"

I hear a sound I've never heard before, and know it's coming from whatever it is on the bed! It appears to be a dark moving object, and I feel it's some sort of life form I am not familiar with.  The guide who is with me squeezes my hand to reassure me that 'all is ok' and tells me 'just stay here, they won't see us'.  I don't want to go in, and I squeeze my guide's hand to say I'm not sure what's going on or what I should do.  It is at that point that I fade back to full wakefulness.

May 22, 2011

The beginning of the OBE was also a dream-type experience where I was not aware if I was OOB or just actively participating in a dream sequence.  There were many anomalies that I should have picked up on as signals to become aware, but I was so intent on what I was doing, I didn't bother initially.

The gist of this dream, in case it's relevant in some way, was the fact that I had set a fire in my childhood home in the basement.  I was fully aware that I was putting people at risk in doing so, but felt I needed to do this for some reason.  I knew I had time while the fire started to go up to my old room and gather my personal belongings that I wanted to save before the rest of the house was destroyed by fire. 

I remember I was considerate enough to be sure that everyone else got out of the house without injury before I realized I needed to go back inside for a pocketbook I left!!   With the firemen inside, I entered the house, only to realize that there was no need to find this particular pocketbook and even decided to stay and converse with them as they rested from their work.  At one point, I remember finding some stray cats that have been living under the house (and I remember that these were frequent dream characters over the years) and get them to leave with the firemen's help.

(For a bit of my own insight and interpretation, I will say that I have recently had some major changes in my views on life and how I perceive things.  I am feeling much more settled in my outlook on life, and realize that much of what I bring to my life is brought there through my own perceptions.  This 'clearing out' of my 'childhood home' may be symbolic of my dealing with these personal perceptions and attitudes)

Now, I'm inside the house, sitting on the couch, conversing with these 'firemen', or so I thought.  The environment changes and I realize that there are numerous people milling around the room.  I feel a timid touch on my right breast and am shocked for a moment that something is getting so personal with me!  I ask loudly, "What are you doing?" and the hand pulls away like it was caught in a trap!  I feel  a bit sorry I asked so loudly, and said to them, "well, it's only polite if you ask before you do that!"

It is at THIS point that I fully realize I'm out of body in a room full of other people.  I feel comfortable with them, and my hearing starts to open up.  One gravelly voiced gentleman was conversing with me, and I clearly understood him for the most part, but his voice would garble and become unintelligible at times.  I had numerous conversations with other people, male and female, and as I spoke to each it seemed as though a spotlight lit them up so I could see them better. 

Sitting on the couch, I saw one little man running around the room, banging his hands on different objects, including the arm of the couch where I sat.  His voice was only a gravelly growl, without any sense, and I felt he was angry.  While he was near me, I tried to ask what's wrong and send love, knowing it's a universal method of communication. 

Another woman near me told me I wasn't going to be able to do much with him, and when I asked why, she told me....but I don't recall the reason!

I remembered all their conversations at this point, but after meeting the  next individual and being astounded at her 'energy', I was left with little recall other than what we discussed.

As I sat on the couch, this woman appeared by my side, full of radiant blissful energy and I felt so comfortable and happy to be with her!  I asked her, 'how am I doing?' and 'what else can I do?' or something to that effect. 

She spoke, and said, "Well, first of all, happy birthday!"  I was ecstatic to hear this, with my birthday being only a short while away, to know that I was remembered!  I wanted to hug her, but as I started to do so, realized that while OOB, I couldn't. 

She then said, "Secondly, you are doing the best you can with what you have, to have gotten as far as you have.    You'll do more the next time using the work of Applebaum."  (Apple-gart? – it definitely was Apple-something!)  The feeling here was that my next learning will be under an instructor or a process with this name, whether it's in this life or the next, I don't know!

She then said with a smile, "I want to give you something special for your birthday, I will give you a hundred trillion...<she pauses>....dollars!"  at which point I laughed,  and asked, 'what am I going to do with money?'  She smiled widely as she said, 'Well then, I'll just have to give you a special (pride/heart) gift!"

(The type of gift she described could not be put into words, as there just isn't a human word that could describe accurately what it felt like!  Pride and heart were the closest I could process.)

A little girl who was sitting just above and behind me, whom I knew from somewhere, was laughing along with us, and said, "Well then, I too shall have to give her a special (pride/heart) gift!"  I don't know if she was just imitating the radiant woman with me or had her own reasons for doing so, but I felt very, very close to the both of them and so happy!

It was at this point that I faded back to full awareness, trying to desperately recall the memories of what happened just before I met these two at the end.  Their energy and powerful interactions made it difficult to retain all that I had experienced just before, but it didn't matter, as I was left with such good glowing feelings that remained with me for the rest of the day!

[karen659]

June 9, 2011   147) Multiple Exits; Instant Movement; Comets; Fighter Pilot

What was interesting about this OBE was the fact that I had multiple exits and multiple scenes that I interacted in, but as usual, my recall is limited to only a few specific details.

What I found this time was that I was enjoying so much more 'movement' with an apparent ability to instantaneously move to a new situation or scene without the usual long black tunnels and sensations of 'time' passing.  I believe most of my lost recall is due to these multiple 'instant' scene changes.   

As you may know from past posts, I try to use a single word recall for different parts to jog my memory once awake.  I remember attempting to 'pin' one word signals to these various scenes, and was only able to hang onto the tags "door", "stadium", "comet", "jet", and "cuddle", as key points to remember.  The rest of the descriptions I write are formed from the 'feelings' and 'emotions' that are recalled with these signal words. 

I do know I was 'out' multiple times, as the key word 'door' indicates.  I remember thinking each time I found myself back to body that I wasn't done and wanted out again! There was great control of my exits and each time I would take a moment to 'feel' the change in texture as I passed through my front door, which is why that stuck with me as a memory.

At one point in this OBE, while I was out flying fast and furious and enjoying my freedom, I heard someone call, 'come look at this!'  I was just outside a "NASA" (my word to describe it) stadium like structure and was able to peek through an opening to see some football type game being played below.  In another 'porthole', I remember seeing a young boy and young girl practicing some sort of gymnastic type activity with their feet involving balance. 

The scene changed and now I find myself moving instantly to outer space, surrounded by darkness yet seeing this beautiful glowing planet before me.  Initially I thought it was Earth, but as I got closer realized it had the same beautiful blue with white swirls but no land! I passed by it, not even pausing to check it out, and saw what I thought were more planets in the distance.

As they got closer, I saw beautiful 'bubbling' swirling colors all around it, and was surprised to see it swoosh past me with a glorious swirl of color extending far behind it.  I knew now it was a comet, and turned to see another one just as beautiful with its colors and swirls, zooming past me on the other side!

I knew I was always 'up high' in these experiences, and have even a faint recall of being in a tropical type area with high mountains that I tried to fly up and over.  The interesting part about this, though, was that as high as I moved, the mountains moved even higher!  I had to eventually realize I was not going to get over them and stopped myself.

Looking down below, I distinctly remember thinking, "wow, good thing I'm not afraid of heights!" because of how high I was!

The most interesting recall of this multiple OBE is likely the 'jet' reference, as I remember finding myself inside a fighter plane as it flew.  It was a more recent type plane, maybe WWII or later.  I am just behind the pilot watching as he is engaged in a dogfight with another plane!  I could see bullets hitting the windshield in front!

I'm watching closely, but what I found most interesting is the lack of 'emotion' attached to this 'life or death' scene! It was as if I had a 'detached neutrality' to it, knowing that it's all part of a 'human drama' that ultimately was not necessary nor needed as a part of my 'life'.  It almost felt as though this was a past life, as I felt I was both the pilot and the one who watched.  The feeling I had was, 'yup, this was just something that happened' and did not put any emotional tie to it at all.

The final 'cuddle' reference is when I found myself back on the couch, as I was in physical, but with a pair of masculine arms encircling my waist.  Different from the previous experiences where I knew I was out in the 'open' and 'up high', this was more of a 'near physical realm' sensation.  I was a bit hesitant as I felt this touch was just a bit too close, and I turned to see who this man was, as I was not afraid although I did not recognize him as anyone I knew. 

He was talking to me and I was having difficulty understanding his words.  I remember asking him a few times to please repeat what he's saying, as I just couldn't hear them clearly.  I somehow knew he wanted to get 'closer' and tried to kiss me after placing his hands on my breasts.  His kiss was not appealing at all, and I knew it was time to stop. 

I woke with a bit of emotion that I had to 'let go' in order to try to fade back into the right mindstate for recall and was upset to forget so much!  I was finally able to drift back, trying to reenter the experience with my recorder running to recall at least these particular scenes I've shared with you.

[karen659]

6/19/11     148) California Adventures; Meeting Jaime and OOB in a Plane!

I had met my new OBE friend Jaime for the first time this day, and set the intention to see if I could go visit in an OBE that night.  My first recollection after my induction was of being in a hospital-type area with friends caring for me, helping me to move from one room to another.  I knew I wanted to go, but yet I might not be ready.

Impatiently I rolled out and immediately fell backward, unsteady and unable to control my movements.  I could hear my daughter and a friend (Bill?) talking in distance going off to explore but I was not in control enough to move to go with them.

Finding myself back in body, I noticed a beautiful multicolored geometric mosaic design behind my closed eyes that swirled around until it faded and I found myself fully aware again.

I consciously attempted to induce again, and this time found it was an easy exit, as I moved out the door to fly up through some trees (as usual).  This time, though, I stopped to ask the tree if it ever had a hug, and then grabbed some leaves and branches to give it a hug. 

I went off, with limited recall now as I had such an unexpected ending to this experience that it overtook these memories.  I recall only of flying high, very dark at first having to state 'clarity now' twice to try to improve, and impressing three words into my consciousness to help with my recall.  "horse"? "house"? and a third word I have no memory of now.  Vaguely, I can remember seeing a wide open plain with horse(s) below me.

One other memory was seeing a city below me lit up with lights as it was night time, knowing it was a different appearance than the cities back home.  It appeared to be in a flat area but surrounded by mountains, similar to the landscape I noticed in California.  My only 'feelings' left to this beginning experience was as if I was 'high and far away' with wonderful memories when I returned to my body.

I remember the usual fumbling with the recorder, seeing the lit display with odd numbers, so I knew it was a signal of a false awakening.  I was excited to record what I had remembered, so I pulled back to more wakefulness, but was surprised to see that the recorder was still malfunctioning again.

I was about to pull awake once more when I noticed a man and two young boys standing behind the couch I was lying on.  "Jaime is here!" was the first impression I had, but also knew he looked just a bit different.  He had on some sort of 'uniform' but it wasn't military, a short sleeve single color (white? gold?) chef-type shirt with a design on the right sleeve. (This is why the memories of the first part faded quickly, as I was so excited to see him!)

With him were two boys around the age of 8 or 9.  I remember sitting and chatting with them, Jaime with one boy on his lap and the other standing in front.  We were laughing and having a good time.  I tried to look closely at the young boys to be able to describe what they looked like after awakening. 

Both boys had brown eyes, the one on Jaime's lap with small style dark color frame glasses and messy wavy hair in a beautiful red-brown color.  I remember remarking on how messy it was!  The other boy had a mop of hair, brown, rounder face and possibly freckles.  I wasn't sure if Jaime was their caretaker or the one was related and the other a friend.  I remember thinking what nice kids they were!

Because I was so surprised to see Jaime at the end when I was 'pulling back' to awareness, I have completely forgotten when it was that I did earlier in the night, and can only remember these few details.  I just know I came back from 'far away' and 'high' and had a fantastic time!
But it was also SO nice to know that my intention to 'go see' Jaime the same night I met him for the first time brought him here to my daughter's place at the end of a great OBE!

In speaking with Jaime later, I found that that he remembered sitting and talking with people that night, but no recollection of the young boys or any idea who they could have been.  Because Jaime is very familiar with the OBE process as well, I feel it just may have been a connection we both shared that night.

6/22/11 Plane flight home

In meeting with OBE friends in California and sharing their excitement, it motivated me to want to try something new and see if I could get OOB while traveling on the plane to home, since I knew it was a long trip and I could sleep.  I was concerned it might not happen, as I have never attempted this in a noisy, bumpy, moving environment, but still wanted to try.

In used my usual affirmations and visualization before sleep, and remember being surprised to feel my left knee floating up as I sat in the plane seat. (I was in a window seat, next to the wing of the plane.)  It didn't bring me to awareness of possibly being OOB, as my mind registered it as something interesting but not that unusual.

It was at that point that we had to have hit some turbulence, or maybe my seatmate moved slightly to bump me, but I felt my astral leg quickly and heavily sink back into my physical body, enough to startle me to more awareness. 

I realized 'hey wow! I WAS starting to get OOB!'  Without waking completely, I settled back in and soon found both knees now floating up, to the point where I felt totally squished in the seat!  I wondered how do I get out fully while sitting in this plane seat?!?

I thought a change in position might help, so I leaned back, falling through the back of the seat, and then used a 'floating' visualization to try to lift.  My next memory is of seeing the ceiling of the plane only inches from my face!!

I now realized I was out!! I was so thrilled, yet I told myself not to get too excited.  I remember thinking I should verify it by moving my hand through the roof of the plane.  As I placed my hand partially through the ceiling successfully, I fearfully remembered I was in a moving airplane and maybe shouldn't disturb some important 'wiring' or such and so pulled my hand back in quickly! (This shows me how strong my beliefs were that you just don't go outside or mess with a moving airplane!! lol)

Now I'm doing handstands on the back of the seats, flopping myself into unsuspecting passengers laps and then moved to the front of the plane.  I found two open seats next to a young male and thought I'd just stop here to check out first class.  While there, the stewardess made some announcement, and I realized that no one was too happy about her disturbing their quiet.  I could feel the passenger's 'irritation' and even sensed some 'discontent' from the stewardess as she performed her job. 

At that point we did hit turbulence, and I awoke fully from my sleep.  I was so happy to have succeeded! I knew I had felt 'confined' to the inside of the plane, with my fear of causing problems should I have exited it. 

What is very interesting, though, is that soon after I awoke, I was able to see the TV screen of the row ahead of me.  It was playing a Bugs Bunny cartoon where he was returning the Tasmanian devil home to Tasmania.  Bugs Bunny was flying home, and was sad about leaving behind the Tasmania devil. 

Just before landing, Bugs looks out the plane and sees the Tasmanian devil riding home with him out on the wing of the plane!! I knew this was meant for me to see, as I felt at that time that the next time I WILL be able to remember that I cannot be harmed and will get out to see what it's like on the wing as we fly!!!

[karen659]

2011_06_25   149) Transition to Consciousness Using Fear

I just wanted to share a quick experience I had with a short nap I had today, something I rarely do (take a nap) but maybe I should consider! lol   I've always wondered why it is that I don't become 'lucid' when I find myself undergoing some significant distress in my dreams.  It would seem to me that if I felt I was in  a 'dire moment' where I was about to undergo some significant injury or even death that I should be able to realize it's only a dream and wake up to 'consciousness'. 

In thinking about this more lately, I realized that should I next find myself in this type of situation, that it WOULD be a good idea to just 'assume' I'm dreaming and take off.  With the understanding that this life is 'but a dream' in essence (as we are spiritual beings having a physical body), even if it WAS 'physical life' that this was happening in, then I'd still 'wake to consciousness' on the other side!  Does this make sense?  In other words, I would avoid the pain and suffering of a severe injury or 'death' if it was 'real life' or a dream, thereby enjoy the easy transition to my real 'self'!

Anyway, I had the chance to use this new idea today, as I found myself doing something around a heavy machinery tractors (what I was doing there, I had no idea!)  At one point, the backhoe (digging machine) that I had climbed up on started to tilt and fall backward down a steep incline.  I was immediately catapulted upward off the front of the machine very, very high!!

I 'knew' that I was about to be killed or severely injured when I landed, as there would be no avoiding it with how high I was.  I somehow remembered at that point that there was no reason to fear, it HAD to be a dream and that I could just take off flying!  And I did!!! I was THRILLED to know that I could do this, feeling my falling body now soaring and not having to worry about being hurt or dying!!!

Ok, that's it...maybe doesn't sound like much, but I can see that my experiences are taking things up a notch and becoming more frequent.  I'm thrilled they've returned and just wanted to share my new 'perspective' on things!

[AstralMike]

Can you just arm yourself with the question "What do you represent?" of should you do the protection exercise as well?

[karen659]

Can you just arm yourself with the question "What do you represent?" of should you do the protection exercise as well?

I'm not quite sure what the question is in relation to...but I will say that I have used the 'What do you represent' question on rare occasion that I remember to to find out what the intentions are.  I don't always remember to do that while out in astral, so I always ask for protection and guidance from those 'at or above' my level of development as part of my induction process....I feel it is important to do and by doing when I'm conscious, I will always remember to do it...

Hope this answers your question!
Thanks for the reply!
-Karen