A few months ago I had a dream where I projected. It seems like alot of people here believe that dreams are a form of OBEs. So have I projected or was it just a dream?
were you fully conscious of being outside of your body? I believe most dreams take place on the astral planes anyways..
In the dream I attempted to project and I ended up in another world that didn't look like any place I have ever visited in the RTZ. But when the projection ended I came back into the dream
Quote from: Dreamking on January 02, 2011, 13:54:33
In the dream I attempted to project and I ended up in another world that didn't look like any place I have ever visited in the RTZ. But when the projection ended I came back into the dream
Under_the_Midnight_Sun posed the exact question that I would have.
Simply put, I don't believe projections are something you do... I believe they're something you are.
So the question is: How consciously aware were you during this particular experience? Did you only realize that you were dreaming or did you realize you were dreaming AND you had full knowledge (or as close as possible) of who are physically are and where you were?
The first would be what I call a "non-physical LUCID AWARENESS experience" and the other is a "non-physical ASTRAL AWARENESS experience". :)
Likewise, what most people call a normal dream, I refer to as a "non-physical DREAM AWARENESS experience"... since all of these experiences happen in the non-physical (or as some people call it, "the astral").
I was not aware that I was dreaming, but when I was projecting I knew that I had seperated from my body.
Quote from: Dreamking on January 02, 2011, 14:50:26
I was not aware that I was dreaming, but when I was projecting I knew that I had seperated from my body.
For me, one of he prime indicators of a non-physical lucid or astral awareness experience is the explicit 'knowing' that you're "dreaming" (aka, in the non-physical).
This is why I don't believe in "dreaming of projections"... cause to be projecting you need to have that simple knowledge, and if you're "dreaming" that indicates that you do not.
Conscious awareness, in my opinion, that's what it's all about. :)
Quote from: Dreamking on January 02, 2011, 13:54:33
In the dream I attempted to project and I ended up in another world that didn't look like any place I have ever visited in the RTZ. But when the projection ended I came back into the dream
Maybe you were dreaming AND having a projection at the same time. It's Robert Bruce's mind split theory. There was consciousness both in your body and in an astral body. What you remember is dreaming... then having a projection (possibly phasing)... then returning back to your physical body only to resume your dream.
Quote from: Dreamking on January 02, 2011, 14:50:26
I was not aware that I was dreaming, but when I was projecting I knew that I had seperated from my body.
ive had similar experiences where i was in my room in a dream(nonphysical awareness) and i was attempting to project so i laid down in my bed and did my normal routine, and was instantly floating around in my room, it just for some reason didnt click that i could be aware in the nonphysical, when i was indeed actually there lol
i feel that i had this dream just because my desire of wanting to project, probably the same for you. its kind of like your mind playing games with you!
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I recall having similar dreams back when I was having relatively lots of OBE's... I dreamt once I was meditating (in an abnormal place for me, work) and got the full sensations associated with leaving my body. However, I never actually entered a "reality-like" projection so I figured I was just dreaming about projecting. It'll happen.
I think it's safe to say if it "feels like reality" or "feels more real than reality" it's an OBE. If you have knowledge of the physical world and "know you are OB while OB" you are as OB as it gets. (However... if you don't realize the OBE isn't the physical itself you have somethin a little different... a false awakening. I think a false awakening can be either a less-apparent OBE or a conventional dream depending on the degree of reality you experience.)