Planetary Exploration

[DRS]

At 49 years old, I have yet to project any other way than spontaneously.  Very often I have a back-and-forth mix of dreaming, lucid dreaming, and projecting.  One fades into the other.  Yesterday I took a nap and hit a major lifetime milestone.  I'd like to get others' take on what happened.

For a couple years, any time a spontaneous astral trip would begin, almost immediately I'd try flying out into space to go exploring.  I always fly when I'm projecting; I've become very accustomed to it.  Anyway in all previous attempts I would snap awake long before I got out of the atmosphere.  Yesterday it didn't quite happen that way.  I finally made it "out" into the cosmos.  Having no idea how things really worked on this kind of journey, or what to expect, I more or less just went with the flow and decided to see what happens.  There weren't really an preconceived ideas of what to expect. 

Rate of travel seemed to increase exponentially, the longer I moved.  Before I knew it, I blew right by a star somewhere far away in space.  Which star, I have absolutely no idea.  I only know it was a very long way away.  I was close enough to see the nuclear reaction of the star flaming away but not so close that it dominated my field of vision.  As soon as I passed it, I decided to make a U turn; go back and look for planets.  The U turn was a very wide arc and surprisingly, when I finished turning around 180 degrees, that star was just a tiny pinprick way off in the distance.  I saw it and made a beeline for it.  I thought to myself, "that's the one I need to visit!"  I had no idea why, and almost immediately I thought I was just being dramatic and silly about deciding "that's the one."

I flew into the system, and there was another complete surprise.  What I think was 11 planets were aligned almost in a straight line with the star.  Draw a line from the farthest planet to the star and all the other 10(?) planets were almost directly on that line - a few were just a little bit off to one side or the other, off by maybe 1/4 to 1/2 the width of a planet.  They were all pretty much the same size too, which is completely opposite what I would expect to find.  I flew into the atmosphere of the second planet and immediately saw it was iced over, nothing here, so I moved to either the 3rd or the 4th - can't remember specifically.  That one held yet another surprise.  It had lights like you see from an airplane, indicating populated areas, covering the entire planet except for the south pole.  The north pole was probably the same as the south but I never saw it.  I flew an arc around the south pole and back up north somewhere.  I picked a spot more or less at random and flew down.

It was not overly crowded there, but fully developed.  It could have easily been a scene from any suburban area in America.  The architecture matched what we see in America today, even the inside of the first building I flew into.  It didn't take long to see people moving around inside the building, and it became apparent very quickly that those people were fully aware I was there.  That made me uncomfortable so I flew outside to a very large "square" paved in pseudo-cobblestones and ringed on all sides by strip-mall type buildings - two or three (at the most) story buildings.  Then I was sitting in a chair at a round table in the square, the same type of table you'd see in mall food courts but this was outside.  I was sitting at the table talking to 3 or 4 people. They were very much human in appearance. The overall place had a very pleasant vibe to it. It got the impression the place was very tranquil and very safe, very stable (socio-politically). I was taking to one woman to my right about the Tesla radiant energy device I was planning to build, and the Tesla coil I was going to attach it to. She never heard of Tesla, had no idea who he was, and I had to explain everything to her about the devices. She was certainly able to comprehend without any problem at all; it was just that these particular setups were very foreign concepts to her. The concept of Tesla was so completely alien to her that I can only believe that nobody like me has ever visited them before. Then there was a guy on my left who had switched out with somebody else while I was talking to the woman. I wasn't raising any kind of commotion by being there but I was a very curious novelty and lots of people wanted to talk with me if they could. It ended with me asking some question or another that got "right there, by the bank" as an answer. Remembering that I was fully conscious throughout the whole thing, I flew off to what they had called the bank - a black-ish building with two stories at the left edge of a "strip mall" type setup. The sign on the front looked just like any lighted electric sign we would have here - except the letters weren't English. They seemed to be some strange combination of almost-cyrillic, our own alphabet, and a couple characters I'd never seen in my life. I was taken aback by this because the letters were too close to stuff we use on Earth and I was not expecting this. The "bank" was written out in two words; the first 6 or 7 characters and the second was 3. The second definitely began with a character I have never seen before. The first began with a small cyrillic "b" with the hook on the top of it. Anyway the bank was called something that sounded nothing like "bank." This contradicted everything I expected or thought possible. I remember at one point asking the woman what's with the alignment of these planets? She seemed slightly amused and at the same time seemed too bored by the concept of going into it so she just said it was a long explanation and I gathered she didn't have much interest in explaining it. That's the gist of what I can recall, then I was back in bed. Not bad for an afternoon nap.

This conflicts with a LOT of what I've read. I've read all the Robert Monroe books, Robert Bruce as well, and from everything I've read, nobody (published) has ever been able to find an extraterrestrial civilization. I assume I was more brought there than "I found it," and indications are that people (at least in human form) are not typically allowed to see this kind of stuff. Not sure if that's the case or not; I only know I've never heard of anybody else (who can be taken seriously) talking about being able to find anything like this. One time a year or so ago, I was floating out into the sky, and occasionally, if I'm really stressed or having a bad day, I just won't be in the mood for an astral trip and I'll flat-out panic. This happened this time I'm referring to; I started to scream out in my thoughts that I have to find my spirit guide!!! Immediately, I felt three or four finger taps on the bottom of one foot in rapid succession and I realized somebody was back there pushing me the whole time. So I suspect I had help and/or guidance this time.

If all this was really real, taking place on the physical plane, it opens the door to a whole lot of questions. It would indicate that our linguistic base, at least our written alphabet(s), may all come from some common pool of consciousness in the universe. I had no trouble believing the human beings I saw; it seemed natural that we originated somewhere else and were transplanted on Earth at some time or another. Incidentally everybody I saw was Caucasian, and clearly it seemed to be my own subconscious translating communications into English that I could understand because when their term for "the bank" came out, it was suddenly completely alien and rather difficult to pronounce correctly (more or less, I have perfect retention of sounds; I can replay them audibly in my mind as if they were recorded - so when there's a sudden shift in somebody's "accent," it grabs my attention).

The bottom line seems to be that Earth is a place for egos to play out. We become quite addicted to the process of being human, as is the nature of egos, and there never is any satisfactory resolution for any given ego down here. We never do find Mr. or Ms. Right, the perfect job, or anything else Utopia-like. We can't find our niche because it doesn't exist here. Conflict and imbalance are the nature of life down here. We have to burn out on the process and lose all "hope" of ever being truly happy here - not out of desparation or any other emotion we might experience, but rather out of sheer emotionally-detached objective observation of reality. That in itself is a huge, enormous leap forward in evolution. The ego is not discarded in the process but is quite seriously brought down to a manageable size. The place I visited had an overwhelming vibe of stability, peace, and safety. Utopia? I doubt it. But it seemed to be a huge step up the ladder from what's going on here. If I had my druthers, I would stay there indefinitely if I had half a choice, even after what was ten minutes tops of visiting (experientially).

What I'm really curious about now is - was this a one-shot visit or will I be able to return? Time will tell. For now, that experience was so moving that when I go to sleep, intention-wise nothing else matters. I need to know everything I can find out about that place.  It's occurred to me that it could be a glimpse of our own Earth far into the future, but 11 planets?  With everything becoming roughly the size of Earth?

[AstralBeginnings]

Hey I dont really have much to offer but thanks for sharing this, it was great to read. 

My personal view is that maybe because they could see you they arent functional on our "physical" vibration rate and so maybe we couldnt fly there in a spaceship, but who knows?

[Dan C4551DY]

Wow, interesting read. Makes me want to start practicing again.

[Pauli2]

This conflicts with a LOT of what I've read. I've read all the Robert Monroe books, Robert Bruce as well, and from everything I've read, nobody (published) has ever been able to find an extraterrestrial civilization.

If you read the start of Monroe's second book, when the Explorers enter Focus 12, you will find that some of them have contact with aliens. Your experience seems more clear though, than some of the stories relayed by Monroe.

In Monroe's third book, he mentions Talo (or Tralo, Trelo?), a member of his I-There, being of non-human origin.

[CFTraveler]

Many of us (non published authors, lol) have experienced what can be described as 'other' extraterrestrial environments.  The problem is that most of the time we're not sure if it's an astral environment, or a realtime equivalent of them.  And the way is not clear even when I go from one neighborhood to another, much less through spacetime or even worse, wormholes.
As to a single linguistic source, Sanskrit is a good bet- but what about the asian alphabets?  Completely different.
So who knows.

[DRS]

I guess that's the million dollar question in this case: was it astral, or was it realtime?  No way to tell without revisiting.  The fact that everybody there was well aware of my astral presence seems to indicate the environment was astral, but it could have been realtime humans who had the awareness to know when they were being visited.  But then how could I sit down at a table with them and have a conversation?  Also the journey to get there ... who would bother with the trip when you can just pop in?  I don't know enough to decide either way but obviously things are leaning heavily toward it being an astral environment, with the possibility that it really was realtime.  Either way there are odd things about it.

The letters were primarily influenced by our Arabic alphabet, Cyrillic (Russian) second, and at least one character that seemed to be completely new - something like the number 8 with vertical lines going down either side just inside the left and right edges.  I need to get back there, then I can get a lot more info.

[Naykid]

Thanks for sharing that DRS, that was interesting!   

I saw some weird letters that I couldn't explain years ago when I projected to what I believe was some of my past-life records.  They were mixed with letters I could read.  I had to strain very, very hard to see what I did that time. 

I've also been to towns where the people seemed to take notice of me, but they did not go out of their way to communicate.  When I found myself in these towns, there was always a man standing off to the side, just out of my peripheral vision and he would only come into view when I needed some help interacting with the environment.  Those times definitely felt different than oh, me being in a mall where other projectors or sleepers were.

Once again, thanks for sharing and welcome to the forums. 

Nay

[Psan]

Hi DRS

Thanks for sharing. (I read whole of it, can you imagine )
Its never too late to develop non-physical abilities, because the point of it is to remain conscious after physical death and consciously choose to evolve (rather than mechanically re-entering physical again and again). And I've heard that this ability develops exponentially, if you are after it, if this is the only thing you are concerned about in your life.

Trips like these are a real bonus, it is a good achievement (compared to some of us who barely get out of their bedroom). Encouraging indeed. It does not matter for now whether it was a real time environment (with a physical counterpart) or merely a mental creation. Important thing is to keep doing it, till you know.

About the language part, its my personal experience that if we encounter something totally alien, which we never saw before, our mind tries to make it familiar and sort of distorts it to conform to its own knowledge. The written words in astral are a good example. They always morph into whatever you want them to be. So it is best to look at any writing casually and just note it quickly by repeating once, if you stare at it, it will morph.

I liked the para you wrote about ego. It sounds exactly like Hindu karmic system. We are here only because of karmic bondage and our goal is to burn them out and see everything as it is and what we are. If you have come up with that para on your own, then its a bigger achievement IMO. If one can gain such insights simply by AP, then AP has served its purpose well.

[DRS]

Psan: thank you much for the feedback.  Very interesting about the morphing words and it would make a lot of sense; probably the same thing was occurring with the language itself while I was having my discussions with people - my subconscious was taking the communications I was receiving and placing them in a framework I could understand.  This would explain why "the bank" suddenly shifted to some very odd accent while every other part of the conversation was perceived in perfect English with no accent at all.  The odd thing is that I wanted and expected very alien symbols on the bank, to confirm that I was indeed somewhere "else."  It put a damper on things that it was mostly known characters - and then, why was at least one letter completely new?  It seems odd.  Maybe it went by how things sound.  I suppose as I get more experience I'll become better at remembering tiny details.  Being that I'm a computer programmer, working at the lowest possible nuts-and-bolts level ("talking" directly to the hardware without translation), my mind is trained by sheer repetition to work at these micro levels very efficiently.  That probably had a big impact on what I perceived as far as the letters.

[Volgerle]

The written words in astral are a good example. They always morph into whatever you want them to be. So it is best to look at any writing casually and just note it quickly by repeating once, if you stare at it, it will morph.

Is this also related to what we call 'reality fluctuations'? Maybe we should trust our first look. For example, if I look at a stack of cards with one at the top (which I tried often at the beginning of my adventures) it starts to change every half second and oscillates between different cards. The first one I saw was pretty stable, but it was not necessarily the right one then.
I also see words and letters in the astral when looking at things. Sometimes the letters are recognisable, but the words don't make a lot of sense to me.

[Xanth]

Is this also related to what we call 'reality fluctuations'? Maybe we should trust our first look. For example, if I look at a stack of cards with one at the top (which I tried often at the beginning of my adventures) it starts to change every half second and oscillates between different cards. The first one I saw was pretty stable, but it was not necessarily the right one then.
I also see words and letters in the astral when looking at things. Sometimes the letters are recognisable, but the words don't make a lot of sense to me.

It's not even really that... you should be able to view something in the astral with impunity.
It's about learning to not make assumptions and snap judgments regarding the things you're viewing.  Once you start doing that, things start changing to suit those assumptions and judgments.  It's all about control of self... all aspects.  

[interception]

Fascinating experience! I have had semi-lucid dreamlike experiences of what seemed like other physical planets, but never confirmed astral/RTM experiences. I am jealous!

I do hope you will be able to return and tell us more about this place.

I was also thinking.... Earth is not the only place where ego's play in the mud. 

[trader342]

Awesome story. Maybe it is an advanced civilization that is aware of physical and astral simultaneously. I once encountered an astral alien that spoke an incomprehensible language. When I asked him to talk in English, suddenly I understood what he said (but I don't remember). I wonder if your mind used this filter to make the aliens appear human in mall environments.

The conversations you had with them ring true to me too, it is amazing and life affirming Trying to talk and relate to these other spirits, even if sometimes you hit a wall. Some people I spoke to in the astral, were so annoyed that I wanted to tag along with them, that they zapped me and I instantly woke up.

What a mysterious world we are in! I bet there's all kinds of intelligent life out there

Ps. Maybe you travel into their physical solar system, but accessed their specific astral domain

[Pauli2]

What I think was 11 planets were aligned almost in a straight line with the star.  Draw a line from the farthest planet to the star and all the other 10(?) planets were almost directly on that line - a few were just a little bit off to one side or the other, off by maybe 1/4 to 1/2 the width of a planet.  They were all pretty much the same size too, which is completely opposite what I would expect to find.

. . .

It's occurred to me that it could be a glimpse of our own Earth far into the future, but 11 planets?  With everything becoming roughly the size of Earth?

How could you see that the planets were aligned?

And certainly, how could you see that some planets were off with 1/4 or 1/2?

Distances in space are huge. Our nearest planet, Venus, is but a star in the morning. So how were you able to see that many planets in a line?

[Astral316]

How could you see that the planets were aligned?

And certainly, how could you see that some planets were off with 1/4 or 1/2?

Distances in space are huge. Our nearest planet, Venus, is but a star in the morning. So how were you able to see that many planets in a line?

I hear the speed of thought is exponentially faster than the speed of light. I'm guessing at one point he was at a distance where the system was visible as a whole. He then simply thought his way to the system itself. This could be accomplished in minutes, days, or years at the fastest speed in the physical or mere seconds with thought or "willing."