weird experience, ld?

[Tavi]

Hi guys! i want to share an experience i had today in the morning.
this last few days ive been performing the cycles from the SSILD technique after waking up from 5-7 hour of sleep, with a little bit of succes having various vivid dreams (not lucid though) and being able to recall them quite nicely.

but this morning i had a weird dream? (i dont know what it was) where i was laying in my bed and i saw myself standing? or kind of floating still at the side of my bed, i took a good look at my face because it was so real, it was like smiling to me.
so seeing my body there i kind of said to myself, well if im right there it will be easy to project and leave my body, which make me laugh right now because i wasnt aware that i was there, its kind like i took it as a normal thing.
so while in the dream i decided to project and once laying down in my bed i noticed a clock and a screen on the ceiling of my room, i stared at the clock and the hands started to move fast like time started to pass very fast. in that moment i felt that this wasnt normal, and kind of realized that this wasnt ¨reality¨. because of this the vision kind of blured or faded and i heard some really weird noises, i dont really know how to describe those. they where something like the sounds on this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MolrVEr5M20

suddenly i wake up half paralyzed and a little freak out, in the same position were i was staring at the clock. so this make me answer what was that? i dont know if i just was in my bed imagining that clock or it was a dream and realizing that was a dream woke me up.
any clues?

[Szaxx]

The noises are hard to describe, its quite normal to hear them. They are a sign you're about to enter an alternate reality. You need to focus away from your body and on whatever you see or indeed hear.
You were seconds away from success, the fear these give you will fade as you become acquainted to these perceptions.
Stay aware of yourself and try to have no thoughts of what you see. Focus on just being there and you'll find yourself somewhere non physical. This happens naturally if you stay calm.

[Tavi]

Stay aware of yourself and try to have no thoughts of what you see. Focus on just being there and you'll find yourself somewhere non physical. This happens naturally if you stay calm.

so, being passive on what we are experiencing and not overthinking or focusing in the strange noises/visions is the way?
i think you hit the nail with this, the exact moment i started to think that there was something weird with the clock and the noises arrived, i kind of was like, wait.. what? next thing i found myself awake.

doing some research trying to get some answers to understand my experience i came to this

http://www.kurtleland.com/astral-projection-log/2006/99-recognizing-simulations-astral-plane

after reading this im more prone to realize that ive been having lots of ld, just they were not like i was expecting them to be (being fully lucid like in my awake awareness). because when i recall them i think that i was able to take some kind of decisions while on it, or having some kind of intent or so.

The inconsistency of your frame of mind with the one required for the simulation causes what seems like a forcible ejection. You may get a whiff of the Personal Trainer's frustration over having "lost you," contributing to the feeling that you did something wrong and got kicked out.

Meanwhile, you're thinking that it was a personal triumph to have become lucid. It's hard to reconcile that feeling of triumph with the sense of getting kicked out. Then it starts looking like you're being punished for trying to advance your development, leading to theories that some force or intelligence doesn't want you to become lucid.

You're partially right. The Personal Trainer (or the simulation) doesn't want you to become lucid in that particular way--by which I mean, having all sorts of bright ideas about what to do next.

The same thing often applies to OBEs when you get out, find yourself in your bedroom, come up with ideas about what to do next, and then unexpectedly wake up. If you're in an OBE simulation, you may be waking up because your laundry list of things to do doesn't gibe with the purpose of the simulation.

Ejected is a probably a better expression for the sense of having been kicked out of a simulation. There's nothing here to take personally. Lucidity or being out of body may have been one of the requirements of the simulation. But thinking about now being able to do anything you want may not be.

i think that part related to me, letting the dream situation flow seems to be the best thing to do in order to get more and more confortable with the NP enviroment. am i right?

[Lumaza]

so, being passive on what we are experiencing and not overthinking or focusing in the strange noises/visions is the way?
i think you hit the nail with this, the exact moment i started to think that there was something weird with the clock and the noises arrived, i kind of was like, wait.. what? next thing i found myself awake.

doing some research trying to get some answers to understand my experience i came to this

http://www.kurtleland.com/astral-projection-log/2006/99-recognizing-simulations-astral-plane

after reading this im more prone to realize that ive been having lots of ld, just they were not like i was expecting them to be (being fully lucid like in my awake awareness). because when i recall them i think that i was able to take some kind of decisions while on it, or having some kind of intent or so.

i think that part related to me, letting the dream situation flow seems to be the best thing to do in order to get more and more confortable with the NP enviroment. am i right?

After analyzing my own nightly LD's and from not only reading but also corresponding with Kurt via email, I came to this conclusion as well. Whenever I used to become aware in a Dream, I would try to change it. This immediately sent me back to my awakened state.

Once I learned that I was in that "simulation" for a reason and started to just be an active participant in the current scenario instead of completely altering it or fighting it, I found that I could stay in the simulation for a quite a while. I could then explore the meaning of it. I could find the lessons that were hidden in it and I could also have some fun along the way.

I did and still do find many patterns in my nightly dreams. I swear sometimes that I have honed into my own parallel universe where I am living another life, sometimes many other lives. I seem to have quite a few what I call "continuation" dreams, whereas I am finishing something or continuing something that I have started in another dream.

[Szaxx]

100% in being passive until you are in the new environment. Any thought at the point of exit can manifest in a way you're not expecting. This is your concious selfs thoughts and your subconscious is also active here. Whatever you have thought about, fears doubts and an escape route if things are too scarey will manifest as part of the experience. Fears we all understand, doubts on being successful will also manifest and when they do, you don't exit at all. You see it as a hidden difficulty thinking its too hard when in actuality you've experienced exactly what your collective thoughts contain.
It's not difficult at all, go to sleep and desire an experience wholeheartedly,  you always wake afterwards even when you don't want to leave the NP environment you are in.
Going with the flow to wherever you are arrive at works well. Anything else can be experimented with later once you've had a few really good experiences. Your assumption is correct as Lumaza also said.
Your awareness will increase as you progress and manipulation of the environment is easily done once accustomed. It's something you can do but generally don't the same way as driving a sports car on the road. You do as others do until you are on the race track, its here when you put your foot down.

[Tavi]

Once I learned that I was in that "simulation" for a reason and started to just be an active participant in the current scenario instead of completely altering it or fighting it, I found that I could stay in the simulation for a quite a while. I could then explore the meaning of it. I could find the lessons that were hidden in it and I could also have some fun along the way.

doing a more calm analysis i am thinking that i am not having lucid dreams, my experiences would fit more to this quote

"Dream Awareness".  Basically, I'm living the dream life as if I was awake and not realizing it's a dream.  I am the actor not realizing he's in a play.  This tends to give me the best chance to remember after I wake.

maybe i need to appease my expectations a little bit and just keep on practice, eventually ¨success¨ in my NP enviroments will arrive i guess because i am decided to do so.

It's not difficult at all, go to sleep and desire an experience wholeheartedly,  you always wake afterwards even when you don't want to leave the NP environment you are in.

thanks to both!