How dreams work

[Karxx Gxx]

So ive wondered today how dreams work. Like, when you dream is it just imagination? Or does it have something to do with your counsiousness going somewhere else, kinda like an OBE in a way.

[TofuAttack]

unconcious imagination.

[Xanth]

So ive wondered today how dreams work. Like, when you dream is it just imagination? Or does it have something to do with your counsiousness going somewhere else, kinda like an OBE in a way.

I wrote something a few months back regarding what I believe dreams are:
http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2010/10/29/what-are-dreams/

I've been answering questions lately regarding Dreams and I wanted to explain in slightly greater detail what I believe Dreams are. If you've been reading my posts from the start you'll probably have a good idea of what I'm about to say. So, let's get going!

First off, I'll say this... Dreams, as an objective experience, do not exist.  Dreams are NOT what we think they are.  They're not some random interplay of images and scenes that play out while we're asleep.  What we humans call a dream is one part of a much bigger "non-physical whole".

So what is a Dream? A Dream is you being in the non-physical and being completely oblivious of that fact. You go about the environment as if you were wide awake and living your physical life. The environment is being fueled entirely by your own subconscious thoughts, desires, intentions, beliefs... everything.

Now, what's the difference between a remembered dream and a non-remembered dream? Well, obviously to remember a dream, you have to first experience it as it's happening. Or at least, this is the only way *I* can remember a dream (if anyone else has another method for how they experience and remember a dream, please do head over to my forums and share your insights). This requires a form of conscious awareness which I call "Dream Awareness".

There is the thought that we dream every night of our lives, even if we don't remember it. I guess certain experiments using brainwave monitors have been used to figure this out. This means that we don't remember these dreams because we're simply not aware enough to remember them. We don't experience them as they're happening, so they don't get pushed into our memories. That begs the question are these memories lost or do we actually retain them after the fact?

I think that about covers it for a more in-depth look at my opinion on Dreams.

If you have any specific questions or a comment regarding this post, please do visit my forum and ask! I'm always available there.

As for how they work... as I see it, they're simply a form of "astral projection" where you don't know you're projecting.
It's not that your consciousness "goes" else where... it's already there now, you're simply focusing your awareness towards that particular area.
Monroe labeled this area Focus 22... which people have already referred to as the "subconscious" and "imagination".  This area is malleable to our thoughts and beliefs.  When we're in that area of consciousness and we have a dream awareness, we're completely unaware of the connection between what we're experiencing and what we're thinking/we believe.

[Karxx Gxx]

Oooh. So our conciousness is ALREADY somewhere else in a way. We  just focus on  it when we dream. Thanks 
(ima go on the web you posted in a min)
But i  think that kinda makes since because of remote viewing. You can do that while awake. So now im  guessing remote  viewing is focusing on your conciousness and then you  "move" it somewhere else.   correct me if im worng tho, just  guesses.

And IF  that is true.. wait, ima just  post that  on a different forum,lol.
Thanks Xathn, as usuall 

[Xanth]

Oooh. So our conciousness is ALREADY somewhere else in a way. We  just focus on  it when we dream. Thanks 

We're everywhere, simultaneously.  As I see it, at least. 

Thanks Xanth, as usuall 

Always happy to share my opinion. 

[Magickist]

I'm not sure if Xanth already said this, but dreams are basically just adventures in the Astral Planes that we go on subconsciously, thus most of the time pretty much all content is created by are subconscious minds. So the different between Astral Projection and a Dream is that in AP, you're doing it consciously, fully aware and in direct control. In a dream, you aren't in control consciously.

[Xanth]

I'm not sure if Xanth already said this, but dreams are basically just adventures in the Astral Planes that we go on subconsciously, thus most of the time pretty much all content is created by are subconscious minds. So the different between Astral Projection and a Dream is that in AP, you're doing it consciously, fully aware and in direct control. In a dream, you aren't in control consciously.

I hadn't said that yet, but yes, as I see it... you're 100% correct. 

[Karxx Gxx]

So is a lucid  dream  like OBE??

[CFTraveler]

A lucid dream is an astral projection.  An OBE is the experience of leaving your body.  It is only different in that the experience is of being in your body, leaving it, and then either flying around the usual place (your room, or wherever you're sleeping) or shifting into another reality, aka 'the astral'.

So they all are forms of astral projections, expeirenced and processed differently.
Why a distinction?  Because the experiences are processed differently.
In a 'regular' dream, as was said before, you are not using your conscious mind, and the experience is full of subconscious symbolic content.
In a 'lucid' dream (that is, you realize you're dreaming) you can then consciously leave the subjective area into the collective astral environment, and go to places that are described, such as schools, afterdeath places, and the API, for example.  You can also see other projectors, dead people, and other inhabitants.
In an astral projection such as phasing or WILD, you are conscious (therefore stay lucid) and directly transition into the nonphysical while aware.  Most of the time you end up in the collective astral, but sometimes you go into a nonlucid area if you lose your focus or sense of 'being'.
An OBE is the experience of leaving the body and 99% (at least in the beginning) you land in your room (or wherever you are).  After some time things will appear (circumstances) that will facilitate your transition to an astral locale.  Sometimes it happens right away, but most of the time there is an amount of time you will have exploring the RTZ before you can go out further.

And, that's as concise as I can get it.

[Xanth]

Processed differently AND interpreted differently by each individual.
This is why we have so many different ways of describing the out of body experience... because each person will see it and interpret it slightly differently.

I prefer to just lump them all together into "non-physical experience"... but then that is also an incorrect label, because I see *EVERYTHING* as being neither physical or non-physical anymore... everything is simply "consciousness". 

[ether]

In a dream, you aren't in control consciously.

do ya know where the dreams are generated from?
now ya got to ask why no control over it!
their are ways to control this consciously
but some people monitor this site that donot deserve to know, they couldnt control it anyway, but thats life
so ill leave it at that

good luck

love all

[View578]

If all dreams are actually astral projection, do all the dreams take place in the astral plane, or could it be the astral body on the physical plane?

[Xanth]

If all dreams are actually astral projection, do all the dreams take place in the astral plane, or could it be the astral body on the physical plane?

Yes, *I* believe that is the case.
Although, what you call the "Astral Planes" I call the "non-physical".

And even that is a slightly incorrect term... as it's a matter of perspective.

While we're in the "non-physical", that plane then becomes "physical" and this physical reality could then be considered the "non-physical".
So it's a matter of perspective based upon where you currently are viewing reality from.