OBE or AP compared to a Lucid Dream?

[Adrian]

Greetings all!

There are as many theories on the differences between Astral Projection and Lucid Dreaming as there are methods to achieve them

I believe Robert's definition is that if the OBE is fully awake, then it is an OBE/AP. If you blackout, even momentarily, it becomes a Lucid Dream. The implication here I guess is that there is no difference between the two except for point of entry into the state.

Many people believe that Lucid Dreaming is no more than a voyage of your own psyche, and everyone you meet, including those you talk to, are yourself. Others say that a Lucid Dream is the same as Astral Projection and all entities are therefore real, and outside of your own psyche. On the other hand, a low level AP could be exactly the same as an LD.

It would be most interesting to hear views on this, both from a theoretical and actual experience point of view - and especially how one view entities encountered vis a vis being real, seperate entities, rather than multiple aspects of your own psyche.

Best regards to all,

Adrian.