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That "In Between" State

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andy

Hi Daniel,

I too have had these more than coincedentl type dreams.What exactly is going on at the time these events are unraveling is not known to me nor do I know anything about trying to induce the situation or avoid it for that matter.My guess is that its some type of time travel via an o.b state.
Looking back,its been sometime scince this sort of thing has happend,i've noticed that its always an event that im seeing.

While experiencing Deja Vu,and upon analizing it,I could swear that I had the current experience in a dream.Yet I could not be 100% sure as I had no recall of when I had the dream nor notes.

I wonder if there is something to be learned here in a way of control?

Anyways,something to think about.I blieve theres another post here on the same subject.This is what I really like about this site,all issues are catigorized.This makes it easyer for me to focus on matters such as we are disscusing here.In the past i'd put this subject in the back of my mind.But now I wonder???

Thats my take for now,Andy


PeacefulWarrior

Thanks for your thoughts.  I thought I'd recieve more replies than I did, but oh well, people have more important issues to deal with!  (:
   I actually have a pretty good idea of how these things work, talking about these dreams that "have come true".  I don't know if you have heard of the spiritual records (they are called the "Akashika" records- I KNOW I spelled that wrong...) Anyway, Robert Bruce talks about these in his treatsie on OBE's and says that every even ever recorded, including future events, is recorded, at least symbolically in these records.  When I had that metaphorical vision of middle eastern men attacking the house, I am sure I had somehow tapped into that record and thus saw what was about to take place hours before it happened.  It sounds crazy, but not to those who know this.
   It's funny, the other day while in class the professor passed out a handout...when I looked at it I had this overwhelming sense of Dejavu and I realized that I had seen this, or lived that moment, a few weeks ago in a dream state.  Just like you said, I couldn't remember exactly when I had the dream, but I had definetly seen all of this before.  It's a cool feeling, at least for me...
    I guess the best thing about all of this is the fact that I know that if I continue in my path to perfection by shedding any negative or fearful attitudes, and strive to show more love and follow the path of God, someday I will be able to come in control of these latent powers within, just like we all can.

Grace by grace, principle by principle, we strive for perfection.  

Il mio maestro e' il gand Iddio del Nuovo Testamento.
We shall not cease from our exploration, and at the end of all our exploring, we shall arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.
T.S. Elliot
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fides quaerens intellectum

PeacefulWarrior

I guess you could say I am new to all of this, and when I say all of this I mean OBE's, Lucid Dreaming, etc.  I have been studying it lazily for a few years (I am only 23, so I started getting interested when I was about 19 due to the "vibrations" I felt and a "semi" OBE.)
  Anyway, for the last few months I have done a whole lot of research and I am fairly well versed in the terminology and have learned a whole lot about myself, my beliefs, and what metaphysics means to me (it has taken on a WHOLE new meaning).
  Ok, I'll get to the point.  My question is about that in between state- sometimes when I am VERY tired I have a tough time falling alseep, and then I start having what I deem are "hypnogonic" (I know I butchered the spelling) dreams...  for example the other night I started having this nightmarish dream in which I was in the back of my car in my driveway, and some people were trying to coax me to get out and come talk to them.  When I finally did they started throwing spheres at me which then exploded into fragments of glass.  I woke up and realized I was dreaming...but I wasn't very wide awake because next thing I knew I was back in the car, petrified, and  I started trying to call my girlfriend on my cell phone.  I then made a dash for the house and the attack continued from the street.  Of course my key wouldn't work in the door...and then I was sitting up in my bed, and looking back I realize that I was still sleeping although I was looking around my room because I was still very disturbed.  FInally, I convinced myself I really could call me girl friend, which I did, and I finally woke up.  I am sure you are saying "Whoopty do!"  
   The reason I recount this event is because on the morning of Sept. 11 something similar happened.  About 3 in the morning Mountain west time) I started having a similar nightmare, at least in the sense that I had a very difficult time distinguishing my dream from reality.  I dreamnt that middle-easter men were trying to break into the house in which I was sleeping.  They wanted to destroy and pillage the house, and rape the women inside. I "awoke" to pounding on the windows and doors...within a few seconds the haziness lifted and I realized I was dreaming.  As soon as I drifted off again I heard the pounding on the door and windows and then within my dream, the attack started.  I tried to fend of these archetypal arabic characters (or however you want to say it) with a baseball bat in my dream and in the dream I remember screaming, "What is this, a jihad!"
  You can see where I am going with this.  I have NEVER dreamnt of middle eastern people, and I hadn't been thinking about or studying anything to do with the middle east or the jihad.  Needless to say about 2 hours later on the way to work I heard about the attacks on the am radio...soon after I realized it was probably middle eastern terrorists.  
   What do you make of this?  This is about the fourth dream like this I have had in my life that has come true.  I once dreamed, while in Italy, that my family at home went to a certain restraunt (that I, nor they, had ever been to)...a week later my mother, in a letter, told me they had gone there.  
   These dreams are horrible and very disturbing...at least the negative ones.  The one about my family was, at least I thought, just a normal dream.  THe disturbing dreams are not like any lucid dreams I have had (although i think I could have taken control of them if I had tried or realized).
  There are sometimes vibrational feelings involved, but more than anything I have a tough time "blurring" back into reality when they occur.

I would appreciate any feedback or comments.
-Dan

As man is, God once was.  As God is, man may become.
-J.Smith
We shall not cease from our exploration, and at the end of all our exploring, we shall arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.
T.S. Elliot
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fides quaerens intellectum