energy circuit exercises

[no_skillzz]

Oops, just turned the page and saw "Deliberately filling the two higher storage centers first is a very unwise practice".
Silly me

Well, looks like I'll be storing energy into the sub-Navel. How will this aid/improve my lucid dreaming? What would be the significant development gains?

[lateralus897]

I believe RB mentions that once you fill the sub-navel storage center, energy will start overflowing into the heart storage center, and finally up on to the sub-brow. I just started NEW about 2months ago but I've actually noticed some increase in psychic abilities, although very slight. I've just noticed that I'm able to finish off people's sentances, I know what they're going to say a few words before they say it. I dont know if its related, but I keep having these gut feelings that come true. Oh well, totally different topic...

[Tom]

The reason for avoiding the upper two storage centers is that you can cause painful side effects like headaches for yourself. Worse, it seems that imbalances in the lower chakras (and storage areas?) can cause the upper chakras (and storage areas?) to function in an imbalanced fashion. This sort of problem can be difficult to trace back to its source.

[Pres Nevins]

You're giving your energy body a continual boosted supply of energy by filling the sub-navel - I'd just trust it to know where the energy should go.

If you're in training for some track & field sport and you eat your Wheaties you don't have to inject them directly into your feet ! As you use your legs, your body'll route the energy where it's needed. Of course if you're on the edge of malnutrition then it may take a while before the extra energy reaches your legs, but when things get balanced from the steady supply of energy (er, Wheaties in our metaphor) then the surplus will find its way there when it's healthy for it to do so.

Mmmm, Wheaties...!


Pres in Japan

[Ghost]

quote:
I've noticed that the Full Body Circuit involves taking energy to the sub-Navel storage centre. What would happen if you take the energy to the sub-Brow centre instead. Currently I am trying to improve my lucid dreaming (not interested in OBEs at the moment), and the function of the sub-Navel is to store "Raw physical vitality". This isn't what I want, is it?? Should I start storing the energy in the sub-Brow storage centre, as it's function is to store "Raw mental and psychic energy"? This seems more useful for lucid dreaming.

You will definitely notice an increase in dream activity if you take energy into the Sub-Navel storage area. (Trust me on that one.) Twenty minutes of energy raising before bed usally does the trick for me. So stop reading about it and start doing!  

A good method for having extremely vivid dreams (which could go lucid with practice) is the 'sleep/wake/back-to-bed' method' as advised by Marc Vandekeere (www.brainwave-entrainment.com):
1. Set your alarm to wake you up after @6 hours of sleep
2. Remain awake for 20-60 minutes. Allow yourself to wake up enough to get over the 'groggy' stage. Don't let yourself fall back asleep right away as then you are wasting your time. Get up if necessary. Go to the bathroom. Do something, but avoid talking to anyone if possible. This is a good time to review lucid dreaming techniques/goals that you may have. Personally, I love tropical beaches, so this is a favourite 'goal' of mine that I focus on.
3. Go back to bed after the alloted time (minimum of 20minutes) has passed. If you have any preferred exercises for inducing lucid dreams, this is the best time to try them out (affirmations, visualizations, MILD technique, the famous "am I dreaming?" mantra, whatever.)
This is, in my experience, also a good time to perform more energy raising into the sub navel storage area.

Thats it. Take a chance and try this method out. More than likely you will experience good results the very first night. I have no idea why it works so well, but it does. Your dreams will be EXTREMELY vivid. Now whether you 'wake up' in them or not is up to you.  

One note however: After heavy lucid dreaming, I find I am usally fairly exhausted.....feels like I'm completely drained when I wake up. I'm not sure why this is either (perhaps I haven't raised enough energy?).
Don't get me wrong...I thoroughly enjoy the experience, but I usally leave doing lucid dream attempts until the weekend, when I know I will be able to sleep in. This is anecdotal of course, based on my own personal experiences...perhaps you will find the opposite to be true.
But you'll never know until you try.

Best of luck to you.
Ghost

[no_skillzz]

Pres Nevins - "If you're in training for some track & field sport and you eat your Wheaties you don't have to inject them directly into your feet." Haha, good point. I guess my main concern about the sub-Navel storage centre was that Robert Bruce says that it is used to store "Raw physical vitality" which I thought wasn't necessary for Dreaming/Lucid Dreaming. Oh and Frosties are so much better coz it has that cool tiger!

Ghost - Hmmm, never thought of incorporating a full body circuit with Bird's wake/back-to-bed method. Good idea! "I have no idea why it works so well, but it does." Ahhh, now this is where I can help you By getting up early and staying up, a REM deficit occurs and when the brain is deprived of this 'essential period of dreaming', the mind will compensate at the earliest opportunity, therefore automatically making dreams vivid/intense within the first 5 mins of falling asleep. So, this method in itself will cause vivid dreams... but adding the full body circuit will make it kick butt!!!!!

[Ghost]

quote:
Oh and Frosties are so much better coz it has that cool tiger!

Agreed. Tony the Tiger rules.

quote:
Ghost - Hmmm, never thought of incorporating a full body circuit with Bird's wake/back-to-bed method. Good idea! "I have no idea why it works so well, but it does." Ahhh, now this is where I can help you By getting up early and staying up, a REM deficit occurs and when the brain is deprived of this 'essential period of dreaming', the mind will compensate at the earliest opportunity, therefore automatically making dreams vivid/intense within the first 5 mins of falling asleep. So, this method in itself will cause vivid dreams... but adding the full body circuit will make it kick butt!!!!!

Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.
Skillz: This idea just came to me......try this method in earnest at least once over the weekend and I'll do the same, then lets post our experiences here. Sound like a plan?

[no_skillzz]

Sounds good to me.

[no_skillzz]

Well, I tried the energy circuit exercises before going to sleep a couple of times. Sometimes I got vivid dreams out of it and sometimes I didn't. I think energy work can be good, but I don't think it's necessary at all for lucidity... maybe for OBEs/Projections but I find it incredibly easy to project from a LD, so I guess I'm lucky in that aspect.

So, over the weekend I didn't achieve lucidity. I tried the morning nap method yesterday and last night/this morning I had a dream where the text "Reality Check" flew past me... Unfortunately nothing happened; the dream just continued. Also twice this morning, I experienced electric sensations all over my body and it felt as if my body was getting squeezed which was then followed by a wave of paralysis. Plus, I also had 2 false awakenings, so I guess I was pretty close.

On the subject of Reality Testing... I don't do it at all. In EVERY lucid dreaming book and every LD site, R-Testing is mentioned... But it has never helped me (and MANY others) achieve lucidity. Whenever I have got lucid... I have just known it: Or I just become conscious in a dream even though nothing has sparked it off. I think R-Testing sounds good in theory but does it REALLY work? not for me.

[Ghost]

quote:
Well, I tried the energy circuit exercises before going to sleep a couple of times. Sometimes I got vivid dreams out of it and sometimes I didn't. I think energy work can be good, but I don't think it's necessary at all for lucidity... maybe for OBEs/Projections but I find it incredibly easy to project from a LD, so I guess I'm lucky in that aspect.

So, over the weekend I didn't achieve lucidity. I tried the morning nap method yesterday and last night/this morning I had a dream where the text "Reality Check" flew past me... Unfortunately nothing happened; the dream just continued. Also twice this morning, I experienced electric sensations all over my body and it felt as if my body was getting squeezed which was then followed by a wave of paralysis. Plus, I also had 2 false awakenings, so I guess I was pretty close.

On the subject of Reality Testing... I don't do it at all. In EVERY lucid dreaming book and every LD site, R-Testing is mentioned... But it has never helped me (and MANY others) achieve lucidity. Whenever I have got lucid... I have just known it: Or I just become conscious in a dream even though nothing has sparked it off. I think R-Testing sounds good in theory but does it REALLY work? not for me.

Tried Friday night...partial lucidity in that I was able to control certain aspects and the outcome of my dream (was very vivid).
Saturday had ALOT of vivid dreams, one vivid false awakening but nada as far as true lucidity is concerned. False awakenings are frustrating as hell, but I usally have a good laugh over them once I finally do snap out of it.
I agree with you about the 'R-testing'. I think that unless auto-suggestion works well for you, it is difficult to make it work.
Skillz have you ever tried spinning in place once you have gone lucid?
I read somewhere that this is supposed to help in extending the dream, but haven't tried it myself. (always forget hehehe)

[no_skillzz]

A bit of a late reply

No, I haven't tried spinning in a LD yet. Unfortunately, I'm in a LD rut at the moment. I can't seem to get conscious. However i'm recalling a lot of dreams per night and they seem to be vivid. What I have noticed is that energy work does help (even though I might have deemed it unnecessary before) - even more than primary chakra work before going to sleep. I've tried the Wake-Back to Bed Method along with the full body circuit - The result being very vivid and memorable dreams. Also I seems to have had more success (eg. vibrations, paralysis) with going to sleep for 5 1/2 hours and staying up for 1 1/2 hours, as opposed to sleeping for 6 hours and staying up for 1 hour.  

Also (for anyone who might know)... What would be the benefits of doing a Full Body Circuit instead of simply raising energy through legs and straight in the sub-Navel? - With respect to Lucid Dreaming only. I find doing simple energy raising through the legs much easier than the full body circuit.

[Tir13]

Whatever feels best and works for you, than do it. The FBC is nice, and touches all the major systems/ports/portal in one full sweep, but you will still get full energy development by separating your legs and arms.  The most natural and comfortable way (for raising energy) will always work best vs. "what everyone else does"!  

Take care,
Jason

[no_skillzz]

I've noticed that the Full Body Circuit involves taking energy to the sub-Navel storage centre. What would happen if you take the energy to the sub-Brow centre instead. Currently I am trying to improve my lucid dreaming (not interested in OBEs at the moment), and the function of the sub-Navel is to store "Raw physical vitality". This isn't what I want, is it?? Should I start storing the energy in the sub-Brow storage centre, as it's function is to store "Raw mental and psychic energy"? This seems more useful for lucid dreaming.