N.E.W: Questions

[findtruth]

You could either have energy blockages or your chakras and energy pathways are already well-developed.  In either case, doing it for longer or stronger might produce a reaction, if that's what you want.

[bluejay]

Humm, Do you have any advice? Should I try for a longer period of time or maybe trying it on my knees, feet etc? I just want to get started so I can experience this system I have heard so much about

Thanks

[Kalonek]

If you don't feel anything at all, it is more likely you have blockages than you are well developped, for in this case you still feel the energy faintly flowing inside you. I suggest you do it late at night before going to sleep. If you're tired enough, it will work better, and do it for at least 15 minutes. You will definitely feel something.

[bluejay]

I'll try it Kalonek. Should I go with the circular motion on the thumb-joint? And just do the circular motion until I can start to feel energy in my thumb/hand? Or should I try to do the circular motion little at a time and stop and try to feel it or imagine it?

cheers

[Kalonek]

quote:Originally posted by bluejay

I'll try it Kalonek. Should I go with the circular motion on the thumb-joint? And just do the circular motion until I can start to feel energy in my thumb/hand? Or should I try to do the circular motion little at a time and stop and try to feel it or imagine it?

cheers

Well do directly the circular motion on the whole palm of the hand, concentrate on it and don't stop for at least 15 minutes whatever you feel. That should be ok

[bluejay]

Okay, So I tried your advice Kalonek, Did the circular motion on both of my palms for approx. 15min each. I didn't get any of the major sensations that people talk about on this board. I just got something like a numbness and tickling feeling, Also I don't know but I think I felt light-headed there for awhile. But no major sensations in my hands. Which bodyparts should I work on? Hands, Feet, Knees? Are those good to start with, Maybe doing this circular motion on each for 15min?

Also, Are you supposed to lean over to do the motion on your feet or do you have a ruler or something for that? []

[Paradigm]

The physical act of targeting specific areas on your body via circular rubbing, brushing/stroking etc is meant to highlight an area and draw your awareness to it.  It is to be used in the beginning stages for individuals who have troubles sensing areas on their bodies with their awareness alone.

Rather than circular rubbing on the say thumb joint for an extended period, try doing it for a few minutes.  Concentrate on the feelings you get from physically tracing a circular pattern on the joint.  When you think you've got it, stop physically tracing the circle and let your awareness take over.  Continue trying to create and recreate the sensations you got from the physical stimulation with your awareness alone.  

Your body is like an onion with its many different layers.  As you continue to practice and reveal new layers, your body awareness and sensitivity will begin to open up.  Don't be too discouraged if you are new to energy work and are having trouble feeling the different sensations.  Continue to practice and eventually you will see results.  For most all, this is a lifetime(s) endevour.  It took a good while for me to really get a sense of my different body sensations when I started outer dissolving and taoist meditation/alchemy practices 7 years ago.  The feelings are there, for some people it just takes time.  You may not actually feel the energy working but it is..give it time and with daily practice you'll notice subtle to profound differences.

[boydster]

The very first part of this that you are trying to master now is the most tenuous. You are really learning to do something with the faculty of the attention--that's the real exercize here.

I had to work on the part you are doing now for a couple of weeks before I felt as though I "got it" and could reliably get a response from anywhere on my body I wanted to. But believe me, after you get to that stage it gets really interesting.

Keep at it for at least a half hour each day for a few weeks, and reread the instructions several times. There are important keys in the Robert Bruce text which open the door to the psychological states and actual thought processes which you have to align before this begins to works well.

I have a sense that you are trying to use a faculty which you may not have a large momentum using. But practice will overcome that. It does take some ability to hold your concentration, which many people haven't got much of, due to watching too much TV, drugs, Yin body condition (too much sugar..), etc.

If you don't give up, how can you fail??

[bluejay]

Thanks a bunch for the nice replies, and don't worry. I won't give up, there's too much to miss out on One more question tho: What bodyparts am I supposed to be working now?

I'll go read the N.E.W guide again to see if I can find anything interesting []

[Kalonek]

quote:Originally posted by bluejay

Thanks a bunch for the nice replies, and don't worry. I won't give up, there's too much to miss out on One more question tho: What bodyparts am I supposed to be working now?

I'll go read the N.E.W guide again to see if I can find anything interesting []

Well try with your feet. I find them easier to stimulate; but it also because i've spend many dozen of hours on them. Strangely, i've started doing the NEW thing before even reading it ! I started after reading a translation of an old version of Bruce's treatise on OBE, so i did it a lot by intuition and was already a little trained when i discovered Bruce's site and NEW thing. That's why i didn't start by the thumb joint etc but directly on the whole body awareness, doing waves of energy inside me to control it.

[astral-boy]

Hi Bluejay and everyone! If you are lying in your bed relaxing, can you make your hand and arm feel heavier and perhaps warmer?

I am new to NEW but i can get this heavy feeling in seconds. Is that the right way to feel? Of course it´s harder to make a toe feel heavier and that needs more awareness.

Don´t visualize the toe or hand. Just feel it. I noticed in the beginning when i wanted to get the sensations in a toe that it was harder if i had my eyes in another direction. Even though they were closed. Perhaps this can be used as a tool

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[bluejay]

One more question I bet I could get this done all through the day If I wouldn't have to scratch or do a circular motion on the part I'm working. Anyway, getting to the question... How much are you supposed to feel when you aren't doing any scratching/circular motion?

When I close my eyes and shift my awareness to my Toes, Hands or Knees I  can feel a slight tingling sensation. Is this ok? I mean do I still have to do scratching etc or is the tingling sensation enough in the beginning? []

[Kalonek]

quote:Originally posted by bluejay

When I close my eyes and shift my awareness to my Toes, Hands or Knees I  can feel a slight tingling sensation. Is this ok? I mean do I still have to do scratching etc or is the tingling sensation enough in the beginning? []

This is ok. In fact even if you almost don't feel anything except that feeling of having your awareness on a specific aera of your body, it's fine. At the beginning you'll only feel this for a few minutes and then only will begin to feel the energy movements. So don't give up ! And sotp the scratching etc. Try to do it without now.

[moonbeam]

Hi...I'm new to this forum and have been reading some of your posts on the N.E.W. technique and would like to know more about this.  Is there an online course or website in reference to this?  If so, where do you suggest I start?

Thanks

[Paradigm]

http://www.astralpulse.com/guides/new/new.htm

[moonbeam]

THANKS  PARADIGM!!!!

[bluejay]

Success! I sat down, starting to move my awareness to my feet, My feet were a bit coldish. I tried to move my awareness to my right foot, after a few minutes I felt a warm rush moving all over my LEFT foot and it became all warm and fuzzy. I now tried to focus on both my feet (Split Awareness) which worked nice and I got some warmth to my right foot as well. I did this for about 10-15 minutes.

I thought i'd begin on my knees, that was a bit harder but I think I managed to get something happening there, It seemed to hit some kind of a wall half the way up my calves? Anyway, i'm sitting here feeling something going on in my feet and half way up my calves. This must be a good sign?

I will eventually get the fuzzy feeling to reach my knees easier right? Okay, I'm out doing this on my hands then off to sleep [8D]

[Kalonek]

Congratulations bluejay you're on the right track ! Just continue like this ! About the "wall" feeling, i got it too when i started, just continue to do your stuff and it'll eventually become "thiner" and will vanish.

[bluejay]

Everything going good so far, One more question tho. How long should I be doing this? Shifting my awareness and feeling energy. And what should be done after that? Just wanting to make everything as clear as possible, I have read the guide if you were thinking about posting the url! []

[Kalonek]

quote:Originally posted by bluejay

Everything going good so far, One more question tho. How long should I be doing this? Shifting my awareness and feeling energy.

Forever [] These are the basic actions with NEW, so you'll use them all the time, and with even more awareness shifting (like in 5 or 6 points on your body for the full circuit). You're doing well with the energy raising in the legs, just continue this until you can make a constant flow of energy in all your body with this technic. It'll mean that your secondary circuit is cleared. Then start stimulating the primary centers. It should take about 5-6 months of training before this. It can be longer or shorter though, depending on the person, but it's an average.

[bluejay]

Ah, okay. I read somewhere that someone had done clearing their secondary centers in 2 weeks or something? What is that talk about Tactile Imagining etc in the guide? Am I Past all that? [^]

[bluejay]

bump []

[Kalonek]

I know it might be more difficult with a little practice of NEW, but really follow your intuition on this. If you feel it's going fine, you don't feel specific blockages etc, you can start on your primary centers, but continuing with the secondary as the main focus for the first year too. Don't give too much attention to the others' results, everyone is really different concerning this topic, therefore it's why i say that you should actually see by yourself if it's going well or not. With practice you'll do it very easily for you'll have some background.

[bluejay]

Ah, Thanks again Kalonek for a great answer. One last question tho, I've been doing this 1-2 hours a day now. When I start to think about any body part I feel tingling almost instantly and when I have focused on that bodypart for some time it starts to get warm. But one thing I haven't experienced yet is clearing blockages. I mean like a wall coming down or anything extraordinary you can feel. Does this mean A) I have few blockaes or B) I am not working hard enough or my blockages are stubborn? []

[Kalonek]

quote:Originally posted by bluejay

Ah, Thanks again Kalonek for a great answer.

Lol you're welcome []

quote:
 One last question tho, I've been doing this 1-2 hours a day now. When I start to think about any body part I feel tingling almost instantly and when I have focused on that bodypart for some time it starts to get warm. But one thing I haven't experienced yet is clearing blockages. I mean like a wall coming down or anything extraordinary you can feel. Does this mean A) I have few blockaes or B) I am not working hard enough or my blockages are stubborn? []

The light tingling is normal when you focus on a body part, it means that you're doing it well and you consciousness is focused on your energy body and not the physical one anymore (though you can still feel it of course). The warmth is one of many sensations of the energy into your body, especially if you make it move in big quantities it can be very, very warm. About blockages, there clean themselves when you do your enegy work, and it's not because you don't feel them that tere aren't there. But most of the time it's a zone where you can't manage to move your consciouness (a typical blocked zone for many people from my experience is above the heart line in the spine). To see if you have a blockage, just try to move your consciousness into the zone and through it. If it does not feel like on the rest of the body, then the zone might be a little or totally blocked. Just do daily energy work on it and it will vanish naturally.