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Tia

I had my first experience of healing today.  I had such a blocked nose (allergies) that I just started 'stirring' my sinuses and around my nostrils.  I didn't raise any energy but I felt energy sensations in response to the stirring.  I then got that almost painful ache/ relief when your sinuses open up - it worked, immediately.  I also got a rush of energy in my head so maybe I overdid things, I usually do.  Do you do the full body circuit?  When you bring the energy down over your face take it through your eyeballs.

Good luck with your experiment.  I think that 'intention' is real important in these exercises, as in what you intend the end result to be, ie; clear sight.  And then let the energy figure out exactly how to do it, I dont think it's necessary to guide it with imaginative instructions - but I could be way off in my thinking, so I am very interested to hear your progress with this.

I dont know about no 5.  If you are heading for exams you will be under stress which affects the eyesight.  Dont rush things, let the healing take it's natural course, wear those glasses in the meantime.
 
 





kifyre

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Do you do the full body circuit?  When you bring the energy down over your face take it through your eyeballs.


That's a great idea, thanks!

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I think that 'intention' is real important in these exercises, as in what you intend the end result to be, ie; clear sight.  And then let the energy figure out exactly how to do it, I dont think it's necessary to guide it with imaginative instructions


I don't know about this either. I've been wondering too about where to draw the line. Should one be completely result-oriented, and just send energy to an area, or should one be slightly process oriented too? Does specifying process jam things up? Not sure.

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I dont know about no 5 ...  Dont rush things, let the healing take it's natural course, wear those glasses in the meantime.


In my understanding, glasses don't "correct" the problem, they compensate for it. That's why wearing glasses can cause your eyesight to deteriorate further,  because one's eye muscles don't have to work as hard, and they atrophy. In my thinking, not wearing corrective lenses would "put some pressure on the system" and "stir things up" -- at the very least remind me to do the exercises on my eyes more. Once again, not sure.

Thanks for your stimulating comments, Tia.

Mark


Qui-Gon Jinn

I to am fairly near-sighted, and I hate wearing glasses, and even more contact lenses, no way jose on the latter...   but I need to wear glasses when I read or in front of the puter, otherwise my eyes gets easily tired and well don´t enjoy that....  as long as I don´t have to walk around wearing them they don´t annoy me, but hey, wouldn´t it be great if one could make the eyes work optimal without any aids, through energy work...  sounds a bit tough to accomplish but I am sure it CAN be done. Question is if it takes a trained senior yogi or "just a  western boy" with strong intentions/will and equipped with some "energy ability"- like you and me...

Couldn´t hurt trying though!!  So keep trying it and report back if you experience any change (hard not to keep it subjective but still..)
If I were you I wouldn´t stop wearing glasses or lenses though, that is probably how I got my eye inflammation 6 years back, when I didn´t know I needed glasses.  I had to live with that inflammation for 3-4 years, it went chronic (really, really nasty!!).  I got rid of it with the help of "energy work" though, not "performed" by myself - but still, it was energy work, energy blockages were removed by a very skilled kinesiologist (sp?) and my eyes got better and today they are good (except from the slight near-sightness but that I can live with)....

 Well, be well // Qui-Gon

- Your focus determines your reality -

Arulok

Hi Kifyre,

Another area you could look into is the works of William Horatio Bates.  Have you heard of him?  He was a New York occultist who came up with a startling theory - one opthamologists and glasses manufactures like to suppress.  He theorised that the six external eye muscles - the ones you use when you look up/down/left/right - have the ability to change the shape of the eyeball. In other words NATURALLY ADJUSTING EYESIGHT.  He believed the external muscle may pull the eye out of shape resulting in near- or long-sighted problems.  Based on that idea he came up with a set of simple exercises, kind of like going to the gym but for your eyeballs, and proceeded to scare the industry because they worked.

I knew a guy who was using these exercises and in three months was able to get about without his old, heavy glasses.  And he believes his eyes will continue to improve.  He was actually seeing a professional who taught these techniques.  But the exercises themselves are really simple and take only five minutes a day.

The book Invisibility by Steve Richards touches this topic on page 54.

Try these sites:
http://i-see.org/perfect_sight/      
(This site has the original treatise Bates wrote online.  Haven't read it yet, but I'm sure the exercise will be in there somewhere)

http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/g2603/0001/2603000190/p1/article.jhtml?term=
(This site has a four page article and summarises some of the techniques - it'll give you an idea about it anyway)

http://www.visioneducators.org/DrBates.htm



Tir13

Howdy,

I'd go a little slow at first, just because working with such delicate areas of your body (eyes, frontal lobe, etc), may create some unwanted side effects (headache and the like).  But, the best of you luck to you, and like all things when working with energy...just let it happen!

Jason


Paul

You may also like to try the herbs

Bilberry, carrot, and eyebright, these are good for vision and may aide in manifesting your intention into the physical.

All the best.


kifyre

Thanks, everyone. I will strongly consider all these suggestions...and any forthcoming ones. http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

Mark


muzza

Hi kifyre,

I will watch this space with interest. Please report back with your findings... might be worthwhile looking into for the sake of my eyes too! http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

-- Muzza

cainam_nazier

My curiosity most certainly peeked.   I had not yet thought of any attempts like that.  It would be a major plus for since it is no longer advisable for me to do anything even as simple as walking around the house with out my glasses.  Vision is worse than 20/400  which is the big "E" on most charts. I can not see, as in it's not there for me without my glasses.

I do have a question for those who wear glasses and project.  Do you need them when you project?  Or have anythoughts compensating for your eyes?

I have found that for me it is the only way I know if I am awake or not.  I guess it is some what of a reality check.  I'm having a crewed up dream and then I realize I am not wearing my glasses and the dream changes slighty and it looses the fear effect.  But I have had other dreams(?), visions, and experiences where I thought I was asleep but the thing that threw it off was I could not see at first, and had to compensate for my eyes.

I am going to do some research on this one.




"Justice is blind guided only by it friend..Truth."

David Rogalski
cainam_nazier@hotmail.com

Donni_Joy

Howdy doo :)

"Take off your glasses and see" by Jacob Liberman and there's another by an Aussie lady... (I thought it wasJjanet Bates, unrelated I think, to Willy) and there's an eye exercise video out too....

I have read that Emotional Freedom techniques can be effective for improving eyesight by balancing the energy meridians. (I am trying it next month for some other issues.) There's a website, http://www.emofree.com/default.htm  and an Aussie one with a good pdf file/book - http://www.lifeworks-group.com.au/index.html  This one also has some NLP exercises but you hafta search to find them.

I am shortsighted (very) -- without my glasses I could join the paraolympics, being legally blind LOL  The thing is, I can function/cope, and did quite well without my glasses until I was FORCED to wear all the time... now I feel like I struggle and when I go thru phases of wanting to deal with it, I feel insecure without them, and can't seem to hear as well My eyesight was apparrantly the result of an event that happened 34 years ago, when I was born in PNG, very premature and no humidicribs. It's incredible to think my eyesight didn't deteriorate until I was 12, so it makes ya wonder just what affected me then could have such a delayed reaction.... But the reason I know I can heal myself dates back to my feral grass-smoking early twenties days when someone slipped me something heavier (unbeknownst to me) and I had perfect eyesight for two days afterwards, I could NOT wear my glasses.... it was quite amazing feeling, although I was no longer under dire influences!

When I dream, I have perfect eyesight and don't even think of my physical vision! Same with low level and spontanneous OBE's I have managed to pull off.

Robert healed a child of poor eyesight, it is in one of his articles on NEW or healing.

What else... hmmm.... go for it! It takes discipline. I would also strongly recommend doing Robert's Belief System Cleanse... I call it the BS-cavator... because you might have core beliefs your eyesight cannot change, when the facts are that people out there improve their eyesight radically through exercises, herbs, etc etc et al.

Yes, please keep us all posted!

Donni


"A balance of perspective must be maintained in order to preserve reasonable logic and truth." Robert the Brute, 2002

"A balance of perspective must be maintained in order to preserve reasonable logic and truth." Robert the Brute, 2002

cainam_nazier

Well so far.  I have read a good chunk of the material by Dr. Bates fellow.  It is his belief that most if not all eye disoders stem from mental stress or some form.  Stating that the eye was not designed for the use it gets in modern time.  Which was the 20's for him if I remember correctly.  He also states that the major key to better eyesight is to first get yout eyes and mind to relax.  I have been doing excersises for this only so far.  When doing energy work and meditation I have been resting the energy on my eyes for a brief moment or two, just enough to start mild sensations.  I then remove it because I do not want to cause damage since I am experimenting.  This I have been doing for almost a week now.  I have notice a slight increase in vision when I first wake up.  I can actually read my clock for the first 30 secs or so.  But it fades rather quickly.

I have not yet gone through the core image process yet to check for anything else that is there.  It is however an interesting idea to check there for things relating to the eyes.  I plan on doing this soon but want to gather more information of the process and build up a little more concentration for it.  From what I read in another forum Mr. Bruce had some difficulties getting it started.

That is it for now for me.  Hopefully I will have more and more positive info later.


"Fear is the mind killer."


David Rogalski
cainam_nazier@hotmail.com

kifyre

Just a quick update:

My vision has improved slightly, subjectively and objectively, to the point that I need a new prescription, as diagnosed by my optometrist (or however you spell it). Nothing miraculous yet, but I haven't worked all that hard at it (Maybe I will now!). I'm keeping my fingers crossed, and I'll post updates in the months ahead.

Mark


timeborg

I used to have a stigma. One eye used to be short sighted the other long. I used to have to wear glasses alot but one time someone suggested something to me that made alot of sense. They suggested take up smokeing marjuana. It releaves alot of pressure on the eyeballs(red eye). I have been smoking now for the last 2 yrs(moderate not heavy)and have not had to use glasses at all now. Interesting the other day a friend of mine who smokes marjuana said that most people he knows have very good vision and dose not meet many people who do smoke with glasses at all.

Joshcatz

WalkerInTheWoods

A few years ago, maybe 6 or 7, I came across a book about an eastern monk who was born legally blind. He was not totally blind just legally, I think anyway. He somehow healed his eyes so that now he has perfect vision. I wish I would have bought it but at the time I did not know much about energy or many of the things I know now so I sort of thought it was a scam. I do not remember the book but you might still be able to find it somewhere.

I am glad to hear that your eye sight has improved. Are you still doing the same thing or have you tried something different?

I have had glasses since I was in the 5th grade, I am 24 now. I would love to be able to get my eyes back to good vision, I cannot see very well at all without them. Keep us informed everyone as to what is helping.

Alice had got so much into the way of expecting nothing but out-of-the-way things to happen, that it seemed quite dull and stupid for life to go on in the common way.

Kirath

I think im going to have to get in on this, my eyesight isn't getting any better either and im tired of wearing glasses. I think im going to try the bates method along with NEW.

I have a strange life and,
http://www.alexchiu.com/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=Nerezza">I want rings dammit!!

WalkerInTheWoods

Just let me say an great big thank you for starting this topic and for posting about the Bates method. Since I saw this topic last week I have done some research and found this book entitled Improve Your Vision Without Glasses Or Contact Lenses by several doctors. I was SO surprised at what I have found. You HAVE to read this book. This seems to have been brought about by Dr. Bates but this book is modern, published in 1996. They come forward with facts about the eyes that other eye doctors do not want you to know. They show that corrective lenses basicly do more harm than good. Stop wearing them except when you need to, like driving, cooking, etc. These doctors are with the American Vision Institute and have worked with over 10,000 people to improve their eyesight with several simple exercises. They say that vision is something we learn and that our eyesight gets bad because of our habits and environment. These exercises teach your eyes to see again.  These are not time consuming but things you can do while sitting at red lights etc. They also give exercises to do for about 1/2 an hour each day for a month and say that you should see some improvement. I plan on doing these exercises along with some energy work. If my eyes improve even a little bit it will be worth it. Again I suggest that everyone reads this book as it has some interesting facts in it. I will post a link to it. It is not a long book either, just a little over 100 pages for easy reading and then a few pages of charts. I read it all over the weekend.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684814382/ref=pd_sim_books_1/103-1237166-6836650

I hope we see a shift to this vision theropy instead of the "Just deal with it" attitude that is dominate right now.

GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!!

Alice had got so much into the way of expecting nothing but out-of-the-way things to happen, that it seemed quite dull and stupid for life to go on in the common way.

kifyre

Here is some of what I have been doing:

First, spending time in the sun with naked eyes, and generally keeping my glasses off and contacts out as much as possible. But this isn't always practical.

Here's something you can do right now:

With or without lenses, become aware of your eyes. Feel the shape of them in the sockets. Feel them sliding around. Feel the inside of the eyeball, the nerves extending back into your brain. Whenever you get frustrated with your vision, whenever your vision causes negative emotions, just gently bring your awareness to your eyes. You may feel slight energy sensations.

Second, bring awareness to what you are viewing. Allow energy to embrace it.

As you bring consciousness to your viewing, negative emotions connected with sight or anything at all might well up. Watch them, accept them, but don't get caught up in them. Just gently, repeatedly bring awareness back to eyes/face and subject being viewed.

The above is most important. Make it habit. Allow (negative) emotions associated with sight to be an automatic trigger for conscious awareness of the act of viewing. Be aware that you are not your eyes. Your consciousness is receiving sensory input.

And some other fun stuff:

Once you start thinking about your vision, and start doing some of the above, you might start to get strange food cravings, for vitamin A foods, or whatever. Unless they're really sugary (in which case you might want to listen again [:)}), satisfy those cravings!

Flatten your hands and bring your fingers together.  Place one set of fingers over the other, so that left fingers point northeast, and right fingers point northwest. The little finger on one side rests on the other hand where the fingers join the palm. Place the fingers over the third eye, so your palms cover your eyes. Don't let your hands place pressure on the eyeballs. Your hands will rest on your face, but there will be "domes" around your eye sockets. If you can manage it, block out all light. Bring awareness to palms and eyes. If you start to feel energy sensations, in, out, or around, you might want to gently coax them to greater strength. But listen to your body.

Mark


Apocalypse Crow

Hey, fallnangel77, I'd just like to ask: is that book you mention on the link the same one that is for free in the link first mentioned about the William Horatio Bates' methods (ie: http://i-see.org/perfect_sight/ )?

KP

I too have eyesight problems, my eyes are very bad I can't do anything without my contact lenses/glasses.
Instead of healing them myself I thought about contacting a spirit, such as Marbas and asking for his help.  Has anyone ever thought about this? I'm still training in spirit communication but I'm hoping to get some results soon.


WalkerInTheWoods

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Originally posted by Apocalypse Crow:
Hey, fallnangel77, I'd just like to ask: is that book you mention on the link the same one that is for free in the link first mentioned about the William Horatio Bates' methods (ie: http://i-see.org/perfect_sight/ )?



No they are not the same book. I have not read the free online book but they might be similar. This book that I mention above is pretty simple and straight to the point. Unfortunately I have slacked off on doing the exercises, mostly because I am so busy at work, so I cannot say how well it works. Most of them seem to be like others I have heard about. Though while I was doing the exercises my eyes felt a lot better than they ever have and at times I would get some clarity without my glasses. It is pretty cool when something very blurry comes into focus for a few seconds.

(Must start doing exercises again!)

Kifyre, this book says that you should use sun glasses whenever you are out in the sun for protection from UV light. I am not sure how important this is but they seem to think UV is harmful to the eyes. They suggest using a strong lamp and sitting it in front of your face with your eyes closed for a few minutes each day as oppose to using the sun. Just thought I would let you know what the book suggests.

Alice had got so much into the way of expecting nothing but out-of-the-way things to happen, that it seemed quite dull and stupid for life to go on in the common way.

kifyre

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Originally posted by fallnangel77:
quote:
Originally posted by Apocalypse Crow:
Hey, fallnangel77, I'd just like to ask: is that book you mention on the link the same one that is for free in the link first mentioned about the William Horatio Bates' methods (ie: http://i-see.org/perfect_sight/ )?



No they are not the same book. I have not read the free online book but they might be similar. This book that I mention above is pretty simple and straight to the point. Unfortunately I have slacked off on doing the exercises, mostly because I am so busy at work, so I cannot say how well it works. Most of them seem to be like others I have heard about. Though while I was doing the exercises my eyes felt a lot better than they ever have and at times I would get some clarity without my glasses. It is pretty cool when something very blurry comes into focus for a few seconds.

(Must start doing exercises again!)

Kifyre, this book says that you should use sun glasses whenever you are out in the sun for protection from UV light. I am not sure how important this is but they seem to think UV is harmful to the eyes. They suggest using a strong lamp and sitting it in front of your face with your eyes closed for a few minutes each day as oppose to using the sun. Just thought I would let you know what the book suggests.



Thanks for bringing that up. I only spend a few hours in the sun a day, but for anyone who wants to know more, I found some stuff doing a search for "sunlight eyes" at mercola.com. I'm sure there're many more perspectives out there on the web.

Mark


Tom

It has been a while since this thread was posted to. Because I have friends who wear glasses and because of the possibility I might need them for reading, it seemed like a good idea to ask for an update. How have the experiments been progressing?



WalkerInTheWoods

I am sorry to report that I have not been doing the exercises to improve eyesight. I was not using energy to heal, atleast not as the basis, but exercises presented in the book I mentioned. I just did not have time to do the exercises. Ok really the exercises take very little time so I guess I just let myself slip. When I was doing them I did notice a slight improvement. My eyes are pretty bad so it was nothing like I could throw my glasses away. I still believe that if one sticks to it and does them that it will atleast help some.

It is kind of odd that you brought this subject back up. Like I said I had not been doing or thinking much about this for awhile until about a week ago. I have been wanting to start back with this and since things have sort of calmed down in my life I should be able to start back.

Tom, if you do not wish to purchase the book I might be able to write the basic exercises down and post them here, as they are not that complicated. Though I still suggest buying the book if you can as it should not be expensive (I think I paid $11 at a local bookstore) and it gives specific exercises for different eye conditions. They suggest the basic exercises for everyone but the half hour sessions would be different for me and you as I see fine up close but cannot see far away.

I will try to stick with it this time and report back my progress. I hope others that have been trying have had more success.

Alice had got so much into the way of expecting nothing but out-of-the-way things to happen, that it seemed quite dull and stupid for life to go on in the common way.

kifyre

Hey all,

I'm making progress. I can now read the time on my clock from about 12 feet away (it's very blurry, but consistently readable). There was NO way I could do this before. Subjectively, I've had extreme improvement too (recognizing people from a distance, etc).

Here's what I'm doing:

1. Bathing eyes in awareness.
2. Palming
3. Wearing my glasses as little as possible, but not straining eyes.
4. My glasses give me about 20/30 - 20/40 correction. I argued for reduced strength lenses. (say you get headaches or something). 20/40 is legal for driving under all conditions (in the US), but be careful! I have to be a little extra alert.

The Most Important Technique:

5. Take a candle or small flashlight with the top removed (so it acts like a candle) and place it approx 15 ft. away. if you're using a candle, reduce air currents so the flame is stable. Stand by the light switch if convenient.

The flame/light will be a big circular blur. Notice how the blur gets bigger and smaller as your focus changes.

Try tracing your eyes around the circle, it's pretty isn't it? Notice how the focus will change as you observe the details of the circle.

Repeat:
Close your eyes and let them relax. (Maybe transfer awareness to third eye.) Then open your eyes. They will lock onto the light and attempt to focus. Repeat this, over and over. The circle will begin to get smaller over minutes, and weeks.

Try turning on the light, notice how the circle immediately shrinks. Flick the light on and off leaving time for your focus to adjust.

Circle not shrinking sometimes? Do heart breathing as you work. (Feel yourself breathing with your heart.) Trick your eyes into relaxing. With your eyes closed, pretend you're looking far off into the distance. This'll probably help with energetic development too, if you try and retain afterimages, and pay attention to what's behind your eyes, and especially if you transfer awareness to your third eye to get your eyes to relax in between opening.

Don't strain, after your eyes pinpoint the target, they relax to get focus. Farsight focus is a relaxing mechanism. Tensing up won't work, it'll impede progress. Don't "grr" when you open your eyes and the light starts to shrink, just let it shrink. (Ok, maybe grr just a little. http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0> )

Again, it's been 4 months and finally I can't ignore the improvement! Please ask if you have questions about technique.  I do this for five minutes a few times a day. Whenever I need a break from something else. If my eyes feel strained I do palming or sunning (eyes closed!!!!).

Eventually I'll get an eye exam and I'll post any change. With 20/40-20/30 correction, I'm -2.5 and -4.5.

Oh, one last thing. When you're outside without corrective eyewear and you look at a far object, notice the anxiety in your heart area. Don't let it keep you from looking far. Do heart breathing or other techniques to gently alleviate it. When you look into the distance, you are expanding your energetic/perceptual/emotional field. This can be painful after having it compressed by emotional trauma and then cemented by eyewear. Some might say this is the key to it all. (See "Take of Your Glasses and See" by Jacob Liberman)

All the best,

Mark

P.S. I apologize for waiting so long to post this. I was discouraged for a bit because I could never tell if anything was really]/i] working (was I imagining the improvement or getting used to blurry vision?) then shocked when I walked into my room and could see my clock.

WalkerInTheWoods

kifyre, thank you for the post. I am glad you have seen improvement! It sounds like the basics of your exeriences are similar to what I have been doing, or suppose to be doing. I have not tried using a candle but I might start.

I will list some of the exercises that you can do during the day whenever you get a free minute, or to integrate into your daily life. First off, it should be obvious but whenever it is not necessary to wear your glasses, such as when you are not driving, cooking, working with machines, something that can be dangerous if you cannot see, you should not wear them.

1) Roll your eyes in complete circles one way and then another. This is to help relax your muscles and also to help with your ... um I am not going to try to spell it ... your side vision.

2) Hold your index finger up and keep your eyes focused on it. Move your finger back and forth from your nose out to arms length. Keep your eyes focused and following your finger.

3) Blinking. Close your eyes tightly for a few seconds, holding them shut using only your eye muscles. Also blink quicky a few times.

4) Image your eyes as the face of a clock. Center your eyes and then look to 9 o'clock for a second or two. Return to the center. Continue doing this to 10 o'clock, etc all the way around the clock. Do this slowly, don't hurt yourself.

5) Without your glasses, hold or view something to read just out of your clear vision zone so that it is blurry and cannot be read. Now try to read it while remaining relaxed. Do not strain. Observe what you can see, tracing the outline of it. Believe it or not the words will become clearer if for nothing more than a second at first.

6) View something in the distance well out of your clear vision zone. Do not strain to see it. Just accept what you see. Trace the outline of it with your eyes. See its shape. Then try to view the details of it. Don't worry if you cannot see every detail, just look at what you can see. Trace the details and pay attention to what you can see, not what you cannot. This is very important to do throughout the day for those of us that sit at a computer most of the time. This should be done every few minutes, atleast every half hour but more often if you can think about it. Just look away from the screen at something across the room, anything to move your eyes from looking up close to looking into the distance.

7) Hold up a finger about 6" from your face. Study it for a few seconds. Then look at something in the distance, atleast 15 ft away, studying it as you would in #6. Then switch back to your finger for a few seconds, then back to the distance object for a few seconds.

8) Palming seems to be suggested in almost every post, book, and source on this subject so it must be important. Do it! Place your palms over your eyes so no light gets in and close your eyes. Do not actually touch your eyes, but let your palms rest on the bone around your eyes. Doing this for 5 to 10 minutes should be good.

9) Close your eyes and stare at a bright light source. A lamp is suggested. I have heard the sun suggested from some, but with UV radition this may not be a good idea, whatever works for you though. Do this for about 5 to 10 minutes.

A big thing seems to be details. Don't just look at something, but see its details. Don't just see a tree, but see the leaves and bark that make up the tree. Don't just see a telephone, but see the buttons and numbers. Look at the shape of letters and words when you are reading. Actually use your eyes if you want them to continue working.

I suggest to everyone nott to just wait to hear from others if they are making progress but do it yourself. It may be great to hear about others success but think how wonderful it will be to see it for yourself. It really is amazing seeing a word that is blurry and unreadable come into focus for a second that first time, and second, and third. http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0> Do the exercises listed here by kifyre and myself as well as some energy work and see for yourself what can happen.

Best of Luck to Everyone!

Alice had got so much into the way of expecting nothing but out-of-the-way things to happen, that it seemed quite dull and stupid for life to go on in the common way.