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nothingless

#100
The search for meaning is a natural urge to return the mind to it's source. Yet, when realized the inseparability of source and mind, meaning has never existed, merely as an impulse to guide its return through realization. Meaning, value, can only be given to what is created, for that is what is observable. Yet, the nothingness or void that is essence, there for has no meaning.

Once a story was written:

QuoteZero Dimensional

Four people met near a Buddhist monastery. Three people spoke about a building where one would climb each flour higher, one would attain a higher dimensional existance. "Show me this place" suggested the fourth man. This man looked humble, and was known to rarely speak.

Thus they went to this building, that would raise their awareness and level of life as they would climd the floors. They entered the building at ground zero, and noticed an elevator. "That's easy" said one of them, and they approached the elevator. As they entered they realized the elevator did not move. Not up nor down. "That's a pity" three of them agreed. "Let us take the stairs instead." "Not me," said the fourth man. "I shall stay in this elevator" he said as he sat down peacefully. "It won't work you know" the three commented him. The fourth did not reply.

The three approached the stairs, and through much effort they reached the first floor. To their suprise the fourth man was already sitting there, and he had made ready tea. Silently he suggested them to sit with him and to enjoy the tea. "How did you move here?" asked one of the three. The fourth replied silently with a smile, and sipped his tea. "Whatever." replied one of the three in arrogance, "let us move on." Through great effort they reached the second floor. Once more the fourth man would already be there. Sitting, with tea ready to be shared with whomever may pass by. "Again you are here!" noted the three. "We can not drink tea with you, we have floors to climb." The fourth silently nodded his head to symbolize understanding.

As the three climbed floor after floor with great effort, they continuously met the fourth man already sitting there, ready with tea to share with whomever may pass. As the three reached the seventh floor, one of them cried out in agitation "how does he do it?! I don't get it! I'm so frustrated, I'm leaving!" As this one would descend floor after floor, he met the fourth man each time as he did. Humbly being offered tea. As the agitated one reached ground zero, he noted the fourth man sitting still in the elevator. "What?!" The agitated one yelled out. "All this time I've met you on the levels of this building, yet now I even find you on ground-zero?!" The fourth man looked up and opened his eyes, which radiated a tremendous love. "I have never left this no-level" he calmly said. "Would the base of a tree not be present in all it's twigs, leafs and fruit?" The Agitated one raised his eyebrows in frustrated misunderstanding. He walked outside, and yelled to his friends on the seventh floor "Hey! The fourth one is still here on ground-zero!" One of the three stuck his head out of a window, and replied "What are you talking about?! We're drinking tea with him right here!"

The search for meaning and reason merely reflect a certain state of awareness, but is not of the fundamental mind. As do knowledge and intuition merely reflect the human affair, but not the grand affair. All is gained by losing all. The veiled mind looking for meaning, shall not find to fill the gap through the elements by which it navigates life as it currently does. It is your intellect that questions, but the answer is non-intellectual. Your essence is before knowledge, before intuition. It is before before, it is beyond beyond.


Love,

Nothingless

LightningMunk

#101

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riddled_skies

Quote from: iNNERvOYAGER on November 16, 2007, 06:55:19
To get your arse kicked,

Then report back to God on how much fun that was?    :-D

Or, strive to be mindful and simply be an objective observer.

I agree with that. I've come to that.
For the last year of trying to find answers, digging, and crawling... its bad. bad news.

recently, i did a positive binge on myself and i feel great. i found this site. <http://www.lollie.com/blue/compare.html>
the key is commitment. pure comitment, and it makes me content. its what i wanted. it might be what some of you want too.

...

Sometimes it is dangerous to dig for more and more questions, what happens when you just, RUN OUT?..  :wink:  :-)

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Quote from: LightningMunk on November 21, 2007, 18:26:56
i think the answer is in the question
what is the meaning of life?
take away the question mark
WHAT is the meaning of life
and let your mind be silent...

I like that. That's tight...
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"The most beatiful experience we can have is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art, and.. science. Whoever does not know it and can no longer wonder, ..(or) marvel, is as good as dead, and his eyes are dimmed

LightningMunk

#103

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Embodied Words

Everyone has their own meaning for living. Different people need to learn different things by being alive. Only when you've learned everything you can possibly learn by living in this state of existence can you move on to the next level of existence.


Possibly. Or it could be something completely different. But it is what I choose to believe.
There are in every man, always, two simultaneous allegiances, one to God, the other to Satan. Invocation of God, or Spirituality, is a desire to climb higher, that of Satan, or animality, is delight in descent.

- Charles Baudelaire (1821-1867)

IlvC0h3reNt

I've come to the conclusion that the meaning of life is to reach one's potential. Whether it be as simple as a seed growing into a tree, or each individual's unique path.

Stookie

How do you know when you've reached your potential? Is it even possible?

Kodemaster

Quote from: Awakened_Mind on January 09, 2007, 05:11:40
What if the meaning of life is to have fun?

-AM

"The life we live is just for fun"
-- Fun Factory - Close To You

Quoth one of the greatest Eurodance groups of all time...
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IlvC0h3reNt

Quote from: Stookie on December 06, 2007, 11:11:38
How do you know when you've reached your potential? Is it even possible?

I don't see it as a final destination, but if I had to...I suppose when our physical life is complete. I think it's hardwired into each living organism to not only survive, but to reach it's potential. To use the seedling/tree analogy again; trees can survive with a minimum amount of light caused by shade, but they do not just settle for a little bit of sun. You can see them mutate their own form just get more sunlight, to grow and be as healthy as it can. From a seedling it has this potential; to become a great tree, and through the process of life, it attempts to reach it until death.

Humans are much more complex than trees, and the individual human is even more, but I still think the strive for a living create to reach it's potential is still fundamentally present.

Aeros

I believe that Life is balance incarnate. Life is one of an infinite amount of ways that the Universe balances itself.   

imp

#110
The problem with this question is that we don't really know what the question is. We seek meaning but what do we really want to know? In some way we want to justify our existence. And the way we want to do it, using rational judgment and words to describe it, we are only digging a hole and the question remains. If you're asking for purpose of life, yes I agree fully the purpose is to learn and experience. But if you're talking about meaning in a "why we exist" sort of way, then I cannot answer you. The nature of existence is something I don't think we will ever fully understand. It is unexplainable, lacks logic and is a paradox for any scientist out there. The mere fact that we exist is fantastic, and should be treated with up most respect. In fact every moment spent without appreciation and clarity is a moment lost. The world is a mysterious place, and what makes it even more mysterious is that we have absolutely no idea where we are from or what are we supposed to do here. We have to figure it out on our own, that's the tricky part, and the fun part as well. Some things you just don't know. You don't get to know, and it is supposed to be like that, don't ask me why. :)

Life is a fantasy, a river of emotions, an ocean of thoughts and actions and reactions. There's only two ways to go about it really, you can either make yourself happy or you can make yourself miserable, the amount of work is the same.
"All paths are the same, leading nowhere. Therefore, pick a path with heart!" -Carlos Castaneda

Starvingpercussionist

It just is. There's no meaning apart from what we give it. It's a paradox, there is no logical answer. The end is the beginning, the highest is the lowest when it is reached, and all enlightenment is a process. In oneness, there is no seperation between you and all that is, which means you see absolutely nothing, "empty with such fullness" - something impossible to describe. What you see is either a paradox or the answer to all paradoxes. Which one it is is another paradox, yet it's simply nothing as long as you don't think about it. I can't describe to you what oneness is, and I can't tell you what your life's meaning is. It is ineffable. The ultimate reason for existence is that you cannot not exist. The forms are always changing, and yet the observer can never change. Look inside to know yourself. This is not the meaning of life, but merely how to return to knowledge. Everything and nothing vibrate against each other to create the world of perception, and yet what exists is the same as what doesn't if all is one. What is nothing? It must be the meaning of everything. Look not to what you can see to give meaning to your life. You are formless, you are indescribable, you are unique and yet you are the same. You are not a body and you are not an ego. You are infinite love for as long as you are aware of everything all at once. The paradox has no answer, and yet it has many. That is another paradox. Like an infinite fractal, the paradox keeps zooming in or out of itself until you stop and see it for what it truly is, which is nothing. The meaning you give to life you give to yourself. In reality, there is no answer, and yet what have you read? Nothing? If you would but look to yourself, you will find that the answer has been you all along because you see nothing there. You have awareness, yet what does it look like? Have you ever not had it, or have you just not had awareness of things? There is no answer in form, therefor the answer is formless. It is either everything all at once, or nothing at all. Paradox after paradox, there is no logical answer. Why do we live? If we did not live we would be nothingness, and not even nothingness can exist without an observer. Therefor, the observer is all that is. The point is a field. We are all one, and the truth cannot be divided. Illusions have their levels and degrees, but yet the truth does not. See this for what it's worth, and the meaning will elude you. Life is paradox. The answer is nothing and yet everything. I told you the answer is not a logical one, but does that "mean" it cannot exist? It just is.
THE ANSWER PARADOX
The answer to all paradoxes shows this: "Reality contains logic therefore logic cannot contain reality."
The paradox here is "how can one know this is true?".

If the answer to one paradox is another then the question is the answer.

CFTraveler

Quote from: Starvingpercussionist on June 10, 2008, 22:54:41
It just is. There's no meaning apart from what we give it. It's a paradox, there is no logical answer. The end is the beginning, the highest is the lowest when it is reached, and all enlightenment is a process. In oneness, there is no seperation between you and all that is, which means you see absolutely nothing, "empty with such fullness" - something impossible to describe. What you see is either a paradox or the answer to all paradoxes. Which one it is is another paradox, yet it's simply nothing as long as you don't think about it. I can't describe to you what oneness is, and I can't tell you what your life's meaning is. It is ineffable. The ultimate reason for existence is that you cannot not exist. The forms are always changing, and yet the observer can never change. Look inside to know yourself. This is not the meaning of life, but merely how to return to knowledge. Everything and nothing vibrate against each other to create the world of perception, and yet what exists is the same as what doesn't if all is one. What is nothing? It must be the meaning of everything. Look not to what you can see to give meaning to your life. You are formless, you are indescribable, you are unique and yet you are the same. You are not a body and you are not an ego. You are infinite love for as long as you are aware of everything all at once. The paradox has no answer, and yet it has many. That is another paradox. Like an infinite fractal, the paradox keeps zooming in or out of itself until you stop and see it for what it truly is, which is nothing. The meaning you give to life you give to yourself. In reality, there is no answer, and yet what have you read? Nothing? If you would but look to yourself, you will find that the answer has been you all along because you see nothing there. You have awareness, yet what does it look like? Have you ever not had it, or have you just not had awareness of things? There is no answer in form, therefor the answer is formless. It is either everything all at once, or nothing at all. Paradox after paradox, there is no logical answer. Why do we live? If we did not live we would be nothingness, and not even nothingness can exist without an observer. Therefor, the observer is all that is. The point is a field. We are all one, and the truth cannot be divided. Illusions have their levels and degrees, but yet the truth does not. See this for what it's worth, and the meaning will elude you. Life is paradox. The answer is nothing and yet everything. I told you the answer is not a logical one, but does that "mean" it cannot exist? It just is.
Me likey.

Starvingpercussionist

THE ANSWER PARADOX
The answer to all paradoxes shows this: "Reality contains logic therefore logic cannot contain reality."
The paradox here is "how can one know this is true?".

If the answer to one paradox is another then the question is the answer.