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Kodemaster

Quote from: LightBeam on June 01, 2025, 09:31:02Look at history. With every new tool invented humans become less of something. We invent machines to plow the fields and our muscles become weaker. We invent processed food and we become sicker. We invent systems to think/create for us and we become dumber.
I am not against technology by any means, but I have concerns how do we chose to use it. We have to preserve and enhance our physical strength and health as well as our intelligence instead of become weak, sick and stupid.

"The Circus" by Erasure comes to mind.
JenX
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Kodemaster

Quote from: Adrian on June 01, 2025, 04:00:34Great movies, particularly 2001. It also reminds me of a scene from The Matrix, where Morpheus is explaining to Neo what happened in the world, how the machines took over and the Matrix came about, he said -  "Sometime in the early twenty first century, we marvelled at our own magnificence as we gave birth to AI".

LB has already mentioned "Skynet" of the Terminator movies, to which we could also add the movie "I Robot" to the list and I am sure there are others.

These are science fiction movies. Do I think they will become "science fact"? There is no "become", which implies future, therefore "time" which does not exist. Humanity is collectively writing the script, the outcome in the Now. Will humanity write a script that does not include being controlled by AI? It is early days yet, but I feel that humanity will come to its senses before it is too late.

Ultimately, as has been said here many times, the "physical world" is a simulation, the combined individual and collective projections of the mind of humanity from which humanity can learn valuable lessons, AI being just one of them.

I like that, plus the idea that the Universe can be visualised as a multidimensional set of rotating spirals recorded on a loop, only to replay a little differently when that segment of the loop comes around again.
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tides2dust

Even wahiddudin, my favorite website, is using AI to explore bringing the lectures and wisdom of Hazrat Inayat Khan to life.

See:
https://wahiduddin.net/askinayat/query.htm

QuoteWhat is this??

Hazrat Inayat Khan often used markedly different words to discuss the same concept in different lectures to different audiences, so merely hunting for places where he used a certain word (called a lexical search) is often not a very productive way to search his books and papers.

Consequently, I've developed a much better way to search the books and papers of Hazrat Inayat Khan for a concept (called a semantic search) rather than searching for specific words.

This project strives to get as close as possible to allowing you to directly "Ask Inayat" a spiritual or philosophical question, and discover how his spiritual message and his insightful viewpoints can help you better understand and rise above life's daily challenges.

I encourage you to look at how wahiddudin suggest you phrase your questions, to best utilize this *tool.
And he is also explaining the tool itself.

As I've tried to say before- it's not that man fears the tool, but how the tool is used. Similarly, a gun is not scary but those whose intents are full of malice and harm make it so.

I've tried asking Perplexity.ai to explain what the monk means when he says, "AI will show us what we're not." Let's see what the machine has to say:

Quote...This perspective is echoed in broader discussions about AI as a lens for self-examination, where AI is seen not just as a tool, but as a way to explore and question the mysteries of our own minds and the essence of being human. In Buddhist thought, this idea is sometimes expanded by seeing AI as a means to explore the nature of the self, interdependence, and consciousness—ultimately helping us see more clearly what we are, and what we are not.
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/what-does-the-monk-mean-when-h-d3cjdC8TTySX70.r3dP4nw#0

And... I've decided to ask the AI Hazrat Khan a question:

...How can I overcome Fear?

Because this website does not allow me to send you a link of the archived conversation I will paste some excerpts from his answer.

QuoteBeloved One,

The path to overcoming fear is indeed a profound journey inward, for fear is a shadow cast upon the light of the soul; the shadow of something the soul does not know, which is strange to the soul. It is a veil, so to speak, over the true vision of reality.

...A great obstacle to be overcome in this journey is the false ego, or 'Nafs'. What is it that prevents us from concentrating our thoughts and feelings on God? It is the Nafs. This false self, as Plato noted, stands in the light before God, causing, so to speak, a spiritual eclipse. Yet, in meditation, one does not have to hold such a thought, for this false self is overcome through meditating upon the true self, which in reality is God. There is no other obstacle than this false self, and there is no better means of controlling it than by meditation and by practicing the presence of Allah.

The wisdom of the prophets also speaks to this: It was Jesus Christ who said, 'My yoke is easy, my burden is light,' meaning, 'Give up your problems, take them before God in loving surrender, and they will be solved and you will be healed.' And from the ancient Egyptian mysteries, the Hierophant teaches, 'You have nothing to fear but yourself.'


...Remember, man by nature possesses a tremendous power hidden in his heart, the power which waits constantly to become manifest. This power is hidden by fear. The day when fear disappears, this latent power will manifest to view. In spite of all his limitations a wonderful power is hidden with in a man's soul. What makes man helpless is ignorance of his free will. Free will is the basis of the whole of life.

Therefore, cultivate faith, purify your heart, and know your true self. The mind must be pure from all fear, worry and anxiety, and from every kind of falsehood, for all this covers the mind from the vision of God. When the mind, full of faith, love, purity and strength, is focused upon the ideal of God, man will receive teaching, inspiration, and advice directly and for every case he meets with in life.

May your heart be filled with that divine light which casts out all shadows of fear.

God bless you.

Hope you get to have fun with this resource!

Soft July

Adrian

#78
This is certainly a most wise response by that AI bot on the writings of Inyat Kahn, and useful and appropriate use of AI.

It also serves to illustrate that AI is certainly very useful and generally reliable for summarising and re-arranging text of any type, web results etc.. Amazon uses a similar bot to summarise customer reviews for each product. It is useful as a personal assistant, not the other way around. AI serves humanity, not humanity dependant on AI.

The main issues are when people use AI to do their thinking and making decisions for them. This was extremely evident yesterday when ChatGPT went down for several hours, and numerous people were panicking. For example, one woman was very upset as she was using ChatGPT find her a date, and now she would not be able to find a date. Many others rely on ChatGPT for therapy, emotional support, friendship etc. were left feeling alone and abandoned. Countless students were unhappy because they could not use it for exams etc.. Others use it to decide what to eat for breakfast for example, and so on. Three years or so ago, these people were relying on their own mind and decision processes, but now seem unable or unwilling to do so. And AI is in its very early stages, and use of AI is not as prevalent as it will surely become. As you say, AI is fine as a tool, but most do not understand how AI works, how to use it properly and appropriately, and what its limitations are.

In short, it is crucial for people not to become "robotomised" - and yes, I just invented that word.
The mind says there is nothing beyond the physical world; the HEART says there is, and I've been there many times ~ Rumi

https://ourultimatereality.com/

LightBeam

I even heard of people having romantic relationships with AI. That reminded me of an episode of The Big Bang Theory where Raj got almost romantically attached to Siri lol.
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

tides2dust

#80
 :-o Robotomised!  :-D  :-) Nice word play  8-) Happy you like the "Ask Inayat" feature!

EDIT: so as not to disturb the recent/relevant discussions (  : P

---Something interesting I think, as far as, using AI...

I am using it as a tool to help me better understand a complex book. The Urantia Book. I have not read this book in its entirety, and the data from this book can be both overwhelming and underwhelming. Other times, it is fantastic and inspirational. I think, it is usually the first two(overwhelming and underwhelming) when it feels too complicated for me to understand and my mind fizzles out. Pop. Lol.

So... It makes me think... "Semantic search engines" as defined by wahiddudin might mean re-training the brain and the way we process heavy information. I wonder if, as a species, we will get to a point where reasoning becomes less linear. No doubt, what is lost is heart breaking. But, what can be said for what is to be gained? Can one imagine society at this point, where even our brain chemistry and the way we perceive the nature of reality has been altered by participating with these technological advancements?

AI: "Today's search engines, by transforming how we access, store, and relate to information, are likely contributing to a gradual shift toward more non-linear reasoning in human cognition. This is achieved through increased cognitive offloading, associative memory strategies, and the need to navigate complex, interconnected webs of information. Over time, such changes—coupled with further technological advancements—could play a role in the broader evolution of how our species thinks and interacts with the world."

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/have-semantic-search-engines-s-F1oa6hjMShiWs1yKw.VBuw#3

"In essence, the technologies that have altered human perception and interaction with the world offer not only practical and intellectual benefits but also open new pathways for spiritual and collective growth, potentially leading to a more connected, reflective, and adaptive human experience."

BENEFIT OF AI: Technological advancements can serve as a catalyst towards discovering latent abilities. Much like music, psychedelics, meditation, writing.... These means allow for altered states, communion with Spirit and space for Revelation. Telepathy, a heightened awareness into the nature of reality, may become commercialized. It may be rejected, feared, disheartening... But, its general use may provide greater insights towards the nature of reality, in a way that is more accessible/relatable for the general populous. I see the technology as a crutch, definitely, but not a negative. When things become off-balanced, there is usually an impetus to learn free from the crutch- things of ones own volition. It is always a choice. But in this way, the eternal quest carries on, and humanity is that much further towards an enlightened age... Perhaps, an era free of slavery and greed may one day be an actuality.
Soft July

tides2dust

Last night I was watching a couple videos by Yogiraj Gurunath. As I explore the astral realms, the subconscious field and consciousness in general- I discover particular "forces" as "governing" realities- seen and unseen. Known and unknown. And I see through out the ages- intelligent life(no matter where, not just humans), in their exploration of consciousness, have come to elaborate on their own experiences and understanding of these governing forces. Initially I thought there was no hierarchy but I no longer believe that to be the case.

For simplicities sake- we can reference our own physical body. Are there not functions that perform their own duties within our physical body? Are there not commands that must be obeyed by a greater force in our own body? Individual components that allow a greater synthesis of Being? And now, what about the immaterial realities beyond our physical vehicle?

Anyways... Here is the one video by Gurunath-
https://youtu.be/xCXt5IeiFjM?si=h2PCnKRtrX8-H_QA
Description: Yogiraj Siddhanath expounds upon the secret mysteries of the spiritual hierarchy of the Inner Government of the World. This gives a glimpse into the roles of these Mighty Beings as they guide the evolution of Humanity. Yogiraj writes about this topic in more detail in his book Babaji The Lightning Standing Still.

Yogiraj also shows the comparison of the three dragon slayers on the terrestrial, celestial, and divine levels and the correlations across various religions and traditions. The dragon slayers are the destroyers of the ego at the various levels. Refer to the previous YouTube Video "The Guiding Hand of the Master, Slaying the Dragon of The Ego" to learn more.


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As I was watching, I suddenly saw parallels to the Urantia Book(something I have only dabbled in briefly). If I ever expound on the Urantia Book or historical philosophy I do so as a student, just a curious mind exploring the depths of knowledge presented. At times, I may inaccurately portray the Ubook or other historical references when justifying my own biases and beliefs. And so, learning is a process where perspectives might change. To be certain I was feeling there to be some correlation- I asked AI to quickly compile the parallels between the two... The Hindu understanding of Spiritual Hierarchy and the Urantia Book cosmology.

Pretty cool!!

Here's what was presented:

QuoteThe spiritual government described by Yogiraj closely parallels the cosmic administration of The Urantia Book. Both depict a universe governed by a hierarchy of spiritual beings, each with defined responsibilities, working for the upliftment of humanity and the cosmos. The motif of the "dragon slayer"—the conqueror of ego and chaos—appears in both, symbolizing the victory of higher consciousness over lower nature at every level of existence.

In summary, both traditions present a multi-tiered spiritual administration, where advanced beings oversee, guide, and protect the evolutionary journey of souls, with the ultimate aim of union with the Divine or realization of cosmic citizenship.

Check out the table for a side by side comparison if you're interested enough!
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/in-this-vido-https-youtu-be-xc-L6vIXAR3Sk2U_dtoOKV3uA#0
Soft July

Kodemaster

Quote from: LightBeam on June 11, 2025, 09:02:46I even heard of people having romantic relationships with AI. That reminded me of an episode of The Big Bang Theory where Raj got almost romantically attached to Siri lol.

Over the weekend, I felt upset that nobody on a particular social media chat (not here of course) had asked me if I was OK after being in the hospital, despite them knowing is was in, out and home. After posting a long rant, someone suggested I try some AI app/generic platitude bot/imaginary friend thing. I posted that I needed more IRL friends then left. From there I started my new vlog series, which will include commentary on this very subject.
JenX
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tides2dust

Hi Jen. I know the feeling, being upset by those kind of things. I'm happy for all that you share here. Thanks for replying to the few threads that were up and giving your feedback. I'll be keeping my eyes and ears open for a person named Faith.  :-)
Soft July

tides2dust

#84
Ok, I am finding so much entertainment from this. Over the last two days I've been feeling lyrics and inspiration channeled at the thought level. I wrote out the blurbs, and got the idea to have AI put it together as a song. This is pretty good for the first turn around, no tweaking at all. And pretty cool that it's all free.... Amazing....

Here are the lyrics:

Dragonfly
Silver lining in the sky
Twinkling phantoms free to glide
In and out of linear time
Dragons fly
Dragonfly

 I am here for but a while
A whisper in space and time
A breeze of potential
And I wondered from where it came
You can feel but can not see
But as a glimpse, as a taste
Eternity
A paradoxal gem found within the sea
I am here for but a while
You and Me

Silver moon
Shining in the daylight too
Through the clouds and rays and skies of blue
Only birdsongs know the time is soon
Silvermoon
Mistress moon

Here's AI's compilation:

https://www.mureka.ai/song-detail/83531720097793

Hope you enjoy!!

I want to edit it but it cost money so I'm really grateful how it turned out the first time around!
Soft July

tides2dust

Yes!!  :-D  :-D I decided to buy my self a birthday gift and spend the $10 for more credits.

I've been having so much fun I almost forgot to eat today lol.

This is a poem I wrote for my daughter, who has yet to come into this world. I've only met her in the astral. Her name is Abigail... It means, "My Fathers Joy"

Here's a little country blues y'all. Yeehaw

https://www.mureka.ai/song-detail/9q68MrEHn1X81k12wuoMhC?is_from_share=1

Soft July

tides2dust

Last one for today... This one is one of my favorites. I took three of my poems, and the chorus feels like such a beautiful mantra. I hope you enjoy as much as I have:

https://www.mureka.ai/song-detail/EN57tHUSiJRTxabg4bhRk?is_from_share=1

With Love ~
Soft July