What is God?

[PissedOff24]

My Dear:
You are God. When you accept that God is the real being that expresses life through every thing and every body, in all dimensions and consciousness levels, you have find yourself for now and for ever.
When you accept you true divine origin, you can do things you never imagine because now this power is free to be expressed through yourself. Takes sometime... but is possible.

You don't have to be God. You are God.

Well, that is your point of view. Don't be arrogant about it. My own point of view as mentioned above still stands.

[ascended]

I love you too!

[Alan McDougall]

 
no_leaf_clover 

I am God.  You're right,  I am not complete here, or possibly anywhere,  but I am completing here. I am constantly dis-assembling and re-assembling my infinite parts to discover myself in my entirety across all time, and even where time doesn't exist.  Here I come into a body of flesh, which my subconscious processes have carefully fashioned from the Earth to perform miracles that no mountain, river, or even the smartest monkey could ever accomplish (though they too are all me -- I just haven't regained a clear memory yet).  Here I am in special form, with special opportunities and special trials.  Here our bodies are already modeled in my image,  now meditate on me and model your MIND after the same image.  You say nothing will come of meditating on me but I will start to come of it, because I love my creation but especially that which seeks me and to be informed by me.

Really heck maybe I should start praying to you? Are you then the ONE and only great "I AM'

I have really really wanted all my life to talk and dialogue with god, one on one and now I have found you on this forum, am I a lucky fellow or what?

I am sorry to hear  god that you are having trouble with you memory, but I am sure it will come back to you soon!!

Now for the wake up call, mental hospitals are full of delusionists how are convinced they are god, no the KNOW they are god, but are they really god? absolutely not, are you god? absolutely not!!

God is the infinite intelligence that pervades all existence, do you pervade all existence? I think not!

Oh this silly idea that all humans are divine, tell that to the victims of the holocaust tell them them that a divine being in the form of Hitler did this unspeakable depravity to them

God the primordial thought, the original mind is simply inscrutable to humanity, God is the "Uncaused Cause"

Anelie dear





Anelie dear one, you have stated the truth so nicely, people should read your posts more carefully, God is the "CREATOR" and we are the "CREATED"

Humanity in their arrogant ignorance right down the ages until now always try to reverse this simple truth much to their peril

Alan

[zareste]

Anything can be called a god. The bible demonstrates this as the book takes several inhuman entities in history and changes their names to 'God' to suit monotheism.

The things you label 'god' are entirely up to yourself

[Stookie]

There's the complete possibility that there is only 1 being that exists, and this is his imagination, just very small figments of a whole being, disillusioned into thinking "we" exist independently of this single entity. And at some point, each of us will realize that we are just figments of his or "my" imagination. In this sense, we truly are all one.

Of course it's natural for ego to argue, "that is not true, for "I" exist!!"

I could be completely wrong. Or it could be my ego telling me I'm completely wrong. Geez this stuff is confusing, it's no wonder people resort to religion. It sorts it out for them.

[Alan McDougall]

 Stookie 

There's the complete possibility that there is only 1 being that exists, and this is his imagination, just very small figments of a whole being, disillusioned into thinking "we" exist independently of this single entity. And at some point, each of us will realize that we are just figments of his or "my" imagination. In this sense, we truly are all one.

Very profound post Stookie I have always believed we are a thought in the mind of God God made man in his IMAGE break this up a little and we get in his IMAGE-NATION

We are a people a "NATION" IN HIS "IMAGE"

We are no the very Image of Gods mind, the "IMAGE SIMPLE MEANS THE LIFE FORCE IN EACH OF US"

"GOD IS LIFE"

We are a fragment of this Infinite mind In my opinion "no_leaf_clovers" post was arrogant it read like he was the Infinite One himself in the process of remembering who he was .

If this type of thinking were true how would you fit Hitler of any other evil depraved human int this equation?



imagination

[Stookie]

That really puts "God made us in his image" in a clear light.

As far as hitler: He would be included as being a part of God's consciousness. We don't know anything about hitler beyond the physical hitler-ego who occupied a physical part of time and space. We don't know what brought about his incarnation, or why it happened the way it did. If he didn't happen, and we didn't learn from the mistakes, and technology advanced, maybe the whole world would end up a giant holocaust. Maybe sometimes, the worst HAS to happen - this is earth, not heaven, and nowhere have we been promised beautiful lives without pain and suffering. It seems to be a normal, natural part of life... and death.

Perhaps his atrocities in this life will be made up for in the next one. Or next 5000. But from our perspective here, we can only see that he deserves to rot in hell with no chance of redemption. I suppose that's for "God's" judgement. I don't know, my physical self doesn't understand.

[zareste]

We've always lived in a world where it's okay kill masses of life. You eat about 100 animals in a month if you're a meat-eater, you shop at stores that were built on forests, buy things tested on animals. You were born into the same behaviors as Hitler, chances are you live the way he lived, and you pave the way for future generations to do the same.

So, judgments? Ask the angels why such evils as the holocaust go practically unpunished, and they'll quickly show you a flashback of your own life. Earth is just a cesspool of death and everyone big and small is a part of it.

[Alan McDougall]

 zareste

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We've always lived in a world where it's okay kill masses of life. You eat about 100 animals in a month if you're a meat-eater, you shop at stores that were built on forests, buy things tested on animals. You were born into the same behaviors as Hitler, chances are you live the way he lived, and you pave the way for future generations to do the same.

I also have this problem of why did God create a world where one life form must eat another to sustain life "Eat OR be eaten"

Some people say that God did not intend it this way ,but through sin, death entered the world.

[zareste]

Well the christian god became especially murderous after he created this world he couldn't control. So, even in mythology, the rule still applies. People became rampant killers because they took after their creator

[Alan McDougall]

: zareste

Well the christian god became especially murderous after he created this world he couldn't control. So, even in mythology, the rule still applies. People became rampant killers because they took after their creator

What about freewill, God would not give freewill to one person and restrict the free will of another person

At least you have given an answer to the question that this thread hope resolve

"GOD IS A MUREROUS ENTITY"

This statement must apply to every god, not just the Christian god!

[zareste]

I notice, yeah, pretty much every life form that's been dubbed a god has been murderous in some way

An omnipotent god would have no choice but to control every action of every human, because he would know the outcome of everything he does and already knew everything the human would do in their life. Free will would only exist in that everything you do is the will of the omnipotent god, and because it's absolutely impossible to defy their will, you are therefore carrying out their will no matter what you do.

[Alan McDougall]

zareste hey!

An omnipotent god would have no choice but to control every action of every human, because he would know the outcome of everything he does and already knew everything the human would do in their life. Free will would only exist in that everything you do is the will of the omnipotent god, and because it's absolutely impossible to defy their will, you are therefore carrying out their will no matter what you do.

I do not agree an omi- all god could do anything it likes, including giving us a free will and not observing us all the time, say he would look at us in the year 1000 BC and then have a re- look at us in 2080 and say these entities are messing up my beautiful planet and swash us like the Worms or viruses we appear to be becoming

Gloomy !!

[zareste]

You're actually onto something there. The humanoids who were involved in humanity's design (marked as gods in ancient texts) do allow life to evolve on its own while they leave. They'll sometimes leave their new life forms unattended for thousands to millions of years before checking back. Some just splice together a life form, drop it on the planet and leave before it even hatches.

[anelie.]

Someone in the forum said "I am God... although I am not yet fully aware of that".

Personally, I don't feel like being a god, yes, I am capable of doing many things but there are much more things that I am not capable of. In fact, I am very fragile. A natural disaster migh come tomorrow
and end my life so fast that I wouldn't even have time to realize what's going on...

I am so dependent on what's going on around me... I could so easily become jobless, or ill for example
that no positive imagination would get me out of this...

How can I declare I am a God?

Yes I am able to create unconsciously a new life in my womb, for example, but I cannot decide where it will be a boy or a girl, will it be healthy? good at sports? with a good ear for music? A  God cannot make things unconsciously, I am sure he is conscious of everything he does.

I would like to know what is it like to feel the presence of God, of his infinite love. Sometimes when I pray I feel something very nice and sweet but it is not strong enough...


A murderous God, well, can we really understand why God is doing this? Maybe we surestimate the value of ourselves, or of this life, maybe God, if he deprives someone of his life in the earth does it for the benefit of this person. If we don't understand the laws and rules in the "hereafter", it is difficult to judge the actions of a murderous God while we are living on this planet...

[Lighten]

My theories on 'God'

I believe everything comes down to understanding. First, let me clarify what I mean by understanding. One may know all the answers, but still not understand the answer. The way I view the Buddhist religion is as follows... All the phrases or quotes or whatever they are, ARE the answers. The whole practice of Buddhism is to truly understand these answers. Everything in life comes down to understanding.

in my opinion, God is a soul (like ours), who has reached a 'complete' level of understanding. God understands all there is to understand. With this level of understanding, a 'normal' soul then turns into a God (creator). We are all on the path to becoming Gods. The reason why we don't just stay in the astral and learn all we need to know in order to become a god is because in order to truly understand something you must experience it in the physical. In order to truly understand what suffering is, you must suffer, and so on.

Once a being becomes a creator, 'he' express himself in the form of a 'universe'. 'He' becomes the universe, 'he' is the universe. This universe gives birth to new souls, and the process repeats itself.

In summation, we are originally all 'peices' of God, but because of free will we are given a sense of self (a soul).

That is my best guess on how the whole thing works.

Lighten

[no_leaf_clover]

Someone in the forum said "I am God... although I am not yet fully aware of that".

Personally, I don't feel like being a god, yes, I am capable of doing many things but there are much more things that I am not capable of. In fact, I am very fragile. A natural disaster migh come tomorrow
and end my life so fast that I wouldn't even have time to realize what's going on...

I am so dependent on what's going on around me... I could so easily become jobless, or ill for example
that no positive imagination would get me out of this...

How can I declare I am a God?

Sounds to me like you just answered your own question.

I am what I am.  Someone with no experience in music can't be expected to pick up a violin and play a Bach concerto from memory.

[genep]

This is a conundrum/paradox and enigma I have battled with for many years.

Is the entity we refer to as "God" a Supreme Being separate from the rest of existence? In other words is "God" a product of the eternal Energies that pervaded Existence some how evolving out of this primordial maelstrom of raging energy/
....  No beginning, no end beyond human comprehension

Regards
Alan

speak for yourself: beyond "your" comprehension: long ago I finally gathered the courage to kick god in the metaphorical butt ... and since then I have been laughing far beyond mortal comprehension
because he turned around long enough to vanish as the devil.

any moron who has the courage to kick society's and theology's god in the butt can go far beyond not only human comprehension but even divine comprehension.
beyond this "divine comprehension": god is the joke that makes reality appear real.

ps: if you are not laughing it is because you don't get the joke.

-- wreally reality

[genep]

This is a conundrum/paradox and enigma I have battled with for many years.

Is the entity we refer to as "God" a Supreme Being separate from the rest of existence?....  In other words is "God"...

after billions and billions of words
someone probably figured out how to con his fellow man 
by turning the work dog around for the word god...  religion was born to make that someone probably very rich and powerful perhaps even that "god."
... "In other words":

"after billions of words
god is just a word that all sorts of other words make a Black Hole
this god needs to look sound a feel safe and secure appearing real inside."
-- O'no

[vladjackguy]

Kabbalah : Occidental occultism

QUOTE:
God, the absolute highest form of God, is undefined, without name and shape. It can't be known, understood or spoken. It can't be described, since it does not exist in a manifested form, at no level of the created universe. It is the creator, it is absolute un-created void and all, null and complete. The mind can't grasp the concept, it can only accept that there is a concept, and that only faith can grasp it.

QUOTE:
What do you say about this heh? Even if we are trying to find the true sence of God.He will exist/not exist even if we are talking about it or not.

[no_leaf_clover]

Really heck maybe I should start praying to you? Are you then the ONE and only great "I AM'

I have really really wanted all my life to talk and dialogue with god, one on one and now I have found you on this forum, am I a lucky fellow or what?

You are something, that's for sure.

Did I say you weren't also God?  You have no idea what I am talking about.  Or rather, you probably DO have an idea what I'm talking about,  you just apparently take offense at my use of language.

We are a fragment of this Infinite mind In my opinion "no_leaf_clovers" post was arrogant it read like he was the Infinite One himself in the process of remembering who he was .

That is a pretty good assessment of what I am, yes.

It's a good assessment of yourself, too, but you apparently don't recognize it and even take offense.