how can i make a magick wand???

[Adrian]

Greetings Kiflarer,

If I remember correctly, the book "Modern Magick" by Donald Michael Kraig tells you how to make a wand.

I would point out that no instrument will automatically give you control over the elements, that only comes with elemental equilibrium and other development, all of which required dedication and practice.

With best regards,

Adrian.

[Kiflarer]

i am from belgium so i dont have that book here in belgium so please type how to make a staff or gimme the link to an online book saiying how to make it

[Adrian]

Greetings Kiflarer,

The book is available internationally by mail order from Amazon.com.

With best regards,

Adrian.

[Kiflarer]

but i just need to know how to make a staff nothing more i aint gonna order a whole book for that... can u type please how to make a wand??? and make it have control over some elements

[Adrian]

Greetings Kiflarer,

I am sure it is several pages of the book.

But as I said before, the ability to control the elements requires considerable practice over many years, and also a high level of personal development. No instrument will alter that.

With best regards,

Adrian.

[Lysear]

it doesnt matter what the wand looks like, only that it serves the purpose, as a conduit, directing the element of fire that you have called forth. The fire wand does not create fire, you do. Once you have mastered fire you can just get a twig from the ground, even paint it red and write fire on it if you want.

[beavis]

"The fire wand does not create fire, you do."

Its useless.

[Lysear]

some may say the fire wand is useless, and there can be arguments that all tools are too. However they serve a very important purpose of creating a mood when you perform spells the mood of mystery. sorcerers do not use tools, it is all in actions and thought forms.

some, on the other believe that the wand does serve a phyiscal purpose, they may wind a piece of magnetised wire around the wand so the top has the northern end.

its up to you, what is the theory that suits you best?

[Adrian]

Greetings everyone,

Imagination (including visualisation) is, I would suggest, the most important aspect of most Magic, with intent, focus (concentration, will etc.) and energy being the power and direction behind it. Such things can be provided entirely by the mind, and/or by use of instruments, spells and rituals among other things.

In the case of the fire element vis a vis a wand, the fire element would usually first be accumulated by means of the imagination, reference Franz Bardon for example, and then directed towards its purpose either by means of a gesture involving the hand or perhaps finger, or my means of an instrument such as a wand.

It doesn't alter the fact however that accumulating the fire element to a worthwhile degree is still a relatively advanced practice, and no instrument such as wand will provide a shortcut.

With best regards,

Adrian.

[Tayesin]

Hi Kiflarer, exactly why do you want a wand? I ask this because the few people I have ever met who have made a wand or staff have done so because spirit guided them to.  The idea for mine came from a vision that showed me what wood to select and how to make it, otherwise I would not have wanted one.  It was made while in a trance like state that I did not put myself in on purpose.  It was a natural progession for the making of a power object.

The state of mind that you are in has a lot to do with weaving thought energy into the object to empower it.  This is usually done by focusing all attention on the task at hand. It is not an easy practice, total focus takes time to achieve.

You want to master the elemental force of fire! Do you know that mastering any elemental force on this Earth takes Authority, and that takes some doing over a long time to achieve.  It doesn't come by simply desiring it, you have to earn it.  At least that is my experience of it.

Some Sorcerers did and still do use power objects today, it is a part of their passage, an integral part of the path that they choose to walk.

I would suggest that you don't 'play with fire', so to speak, as things done half-heartedly have a way of returning to their creator.  And not always in the nicest way.  If you choose to take this path please be very careful about any stray thoughts and intentions.

Love always.

[Kiflarer]

well i saw it in a dream too but i dont realy know how to make it... please help me

[Tayesin]

quote:Originally posted by Kiflarer

well i saw it in a dream too but i dont realy know how to make it... please help me

Hi Kiflarer, there is not much I can do to help you.  You know what you saw in the dream, so it really is a matter of being patient, and waiting for Spirit to guide you.  You might notice small things, like a stick that seems to glow/shine a little, so making itself stand out.  It is a hard to define glow, when you see it you will know what I mean.

If you can remember the shape of the wand in your dream, and you are meant to create it, then it will come to you.  Maybe what you saw in your dream was more about meeting someone who had the wand,  rather than you making one. That's just guess in the dark, so I could be wrong.

So, try to be patient and alert, if it is meant to be then the means to do so will come with little effort on your part.

Love always.

[Kiflarer]

it acuatly more was a staff... what chrystal should i use??? my dream said pyriet... is pyriet good to charge with fire elemental???

[Tayesin]

quote:Originally posted by Kiflarer

it acuatly more was a staff... what chrystal should i use??? my dream said pyriet... is pyriet good to charge with fire elemental???

I understand the staff more than a wand,  although they are not totally dissimilar.  Mine is a staff with a balanced male/female quartz chrystal and two more smaller objects.  The chrystal you choose is up to you,  it seems that your higher-self may have already chosen the chrystal.

It's been many years since I studied Geology, but I think that there are at least two forms of Pyrites, Iron and a Lead type  Also, I think that you could use other fire sign chrystals like Garnet for instance.  It might be easier for you to find a small book on chrystals that will give you the info you are seeking.  There are many such books available at spiritual/new age bookstores.

Good Luck.

[Hephaestus]

No person or wand can control the fire element, im sure a person can strike a match or lighter or build a flame thrower but thats not what I mean. Fire cannot be controlled and especially not created using the power of the mind or a wand - thats just silly.

[Adrian]

Greetings,

We must remember that there is a difference between the element of fire and the physical fire.

The elements of fire, air, water and earth have universal attributes which are analogous to their physical counterparts. The elements, including fire can certainly be accumulated and controlled. The air element can be controlled for example for levitation, walking on water. The fire element can be used to heat an room, melt snow, cause spontaneous combustion and so on.

Bu as I mentioned before, this is an advanced practice, and only people with elemental equilibrium and onyl then after advanced practice can accomplish these feats. No wand, which is an instrument of focus can produce these effects in and of itself.

With best regards,

Adrian.

[rantboi]

In my opinion, no amount of practice can give you control over the elementals. They are much more powerful than humans, and it can be dangerous to try to make them do stuff for you. Respect them, and they will help.

As for the wand, here's how to make one: Go outside, find a stick you like, that can be your wand. You can decorate and cleanse/bless it in the name of the element it's suposed to be used with. Don't ask me how to do this, 'cause there are pleanty of websites and books on that. I'm not gonna waste my time provding answers, while I had to find things on my own. Make an effort if you really care. Asking questions all the time won't help much.

Best of luck.

-Ater

[Tayesin]

Hi again.

The elemental forces can be controlled by a human,  and as pointed out by Adrian, this can only be achieved from much study and practice.  And it can take a very long time, unless perhaps it was a part of your Soul's choices to experience in this life.  Even then it is a long hard road.  Some people who have had the ability in prior incarnations may only need to remember the way to regain it.  Again, that too is a long, hard path. And is usually quite a solitary one.  

We have to remember that we are not insignificant souls on a quick journey here.  We are all very powerful beings, only we have forgotten that this is so.  We are capable of anything that we put our 'attention' to and authority over elemental forces is easily within our means if we so choose the path to it.

When I hang the washing on the clothes-line, I play with Wind, which is an air elemental.  It can be completley calm when I go to the line, yet within seconds of inviting Wind to come and play, it does. This may sound completely illogical to most yet it is a reality.

I also reach out with focused attention to bring storms and rain to my place when they are not on a path that would normally bring them here.  The means to do so is very simple, I reach out to each particle of the cloud/storm and draw them to me.  It has worked every time wth the exception of when I used to try and show off to people.
The reason I share this with you is not to say, "Hay look what I can do", but rather to illustrate the possibilities that we all have, for if an average person such as myself can experience such things then everyone can.

Love always.

[rantboi]

"The means to do so is very simple, I reach out to each particle of the cloud/storm and draw them to me."
Every particle? Okay...

Tay, I understand what you're saying, but you really didn't control the wind, you invoked it. There's a difference. It's like this: You call a person, they come. You didn't control them. But, if you yelled something like "Hey, stupid, come over here 'cause I said so!" and they come, then you controlled them. Same goes with the elements, you don't control them, you call them.

Sure, you might have this theory that with enough practice that you can actually control, instead of call, but I don't think you know a single person who has come to that level.

-Ater

[Tayesin]

Originally posted by rantboi

"The means to do so is very simple, I reach out to each particle of the cloud/storm and draw them to me."
Every particle? Okay..."

Rantboi, okay yes. It won't work if you don't. Try to think outside the box, there are bigger and bigger realities available to us.

(Quote)
"Tay, I understand what you're saying, but you really didn't control the wind, you invoked it. There's a difference. It's like this: You call a person, they come. You didn't control them. But, if you yelled something like "Hey, stupid, come over here 'cause I said so!" and they come, then you controlled them. Same goes with the elements, you don't control them, you call them."

Thank you  for this, I do see your point and it is very valid. Perhaps I have used the wrong words to describe this.

(quote)
"Sure, you might have this theory that with enough practice that you can actually control, instead of call, but I don't think you know a single person who has come to that level."

Hmmm? I am. This isn't a theory Rantboi, it is based solely on experience in this and some other lives here. It is a reality, that without the authority to do these things, the elemental forces will not respond to you.  The differences between what you are saying and what I am saying may only be semantics.  

I would gladly share more of my experiences in this field with you to illustrate occasions where control and not calling has been the key to achieving the results that I was after.

Love always.

[rantboi]

Hiyas! I would like to hear about your experience, if you have the time, of course.

Also, I would imagine that it would be much more easier to 'control' the elements in the astral, than the physical. Do you find this to be true?

One more thing, I feel that even if you are trying to 'control' an elemental, it would be better and safer to do it with respect. While in some forms of magic, demons/angels are controlled and things like that, I feel that elementals are far more powerful. (Note: I find this angel/demon magic boring, and feel it's too Christianized for my tastes.) This magic I'm talking about is called (I think) 'ceremonial magic,' but I'm sure there are other forms.

-Ater

[anjiera]

what do you hope to gain from having "control" over the fire element?

[rantboi]

Well, since Kiflarer started this topic, I think he/she thinks they're in hollywood or something. He/she probably wants to burn people alive, if they don't like them.

Yes, I'm thinking of ignoring Kiflarer's posts all together...

-Ater

[n/a]

I WOULD SUGGEST YOU MADE A SIMILAR COPY OF THIS.
IF YOU HAVE EASTERN POWER´S, MAKE A 1-PIECE VAJRA.
OF ONE METAL.
IN VAJRA YOU CAN PUT A CRYSTAL, OF YOUR ATTRACTION FORCE.
THAT SAME THING YOU CAN MAKE AND BUY IS AN LITTLE OBELISK.
THERE ARE EVEN SOME MADE OF CRYSTALS!
THAT IS IF YOU PREFERE AEGYPTIAN TASTE.
YOU CAN USE EVEN IRON, OR BEST, STEEL.
IF YOU ARE A WESTERNER, MAKE A COPY OF THOR´S HAMMER.
THAT´S ANALOGOUS TO VAJRA,
OR YOU CAN USE ONE FROM A TOOL-BOX!
I SUGGEST, STICK TO ONE PIECE!

[rantboi]

APOPHIS, hiya! Do you speak Serbo-Croatian? Well, I do. : )

Do you understand this: Sta radis?

-Ater