Riddle

[Riddle]

I never introduced myself.
My name is Boyana, I am from Bulgaria, 22 years old.
When I was four or five, I couldn't distinguish between this reality and out of body experience. I remember that I knew what the difference between a dream and an OBE was, because I just felt it in two specific different ways. But when I would experience OBE in the same environment of this reality, it would get very ridiculous. I was furious that I could fly so easily around the house in the first moment, and then the next - bound! and I couldn't lift my legs in the way I was so familiar to. I was sure it wasn't a dream because I was fully awake when I flied, that's why I was so angry the next moment the method of levitating wouldnt work.
I knew that it was really me flying around the house and when I tried to do it the next day while I was awake, I would get very angry because I couldn't do it again, so I wondered: "Oh, come on, yesterday I did it so easily, why can't I do it today!" Apparently as a child I was very disappointed that the physical body couldn't fly, subconsciously I was mad that flying was so easy and my body wouldn't allow me to do it. Very funny.
Here is a photo of mine:
http://pics.vampirefreaks.com/P/Pa/Par/PartyBat/50677893.jpg

[Szaxx]

Hi riddle, I too have started out in both the NP and the physical. I didn't have any problems though as it was naturally accepted as something we all do. For a 3 or 4 year old as I was at the time, it took many years before I found out so few could actually do this nightime travelling. You've lots of things to explore if you can keep focussed on where you live. Things change if this isn't kept in mind and you're soon off in some other place.

[Riddle]

I have projected afterwards but it happens through a dream and it's more like lucid dreaming. As for completely aware OBE, I've had vibrations in sleep paralyses, where I've been completely awaken and aware but it seems I don't get technique very well or I am afraid to lose contact with my body in circumstances that are the same as the physical world and not the astral world. So it seems I am afraid to do it unless it's got at least a little bit of the dreamy feeling otherwise my self-preservation instinct makes me desperately want to remain attached to my body. Another thing is, when I have to control it consciously like Monroe did, I feel kind of lost in the instructions,even though I've read so many times how he detached his body with the vibrations technique.

[Szaxx]

The letting go of the physical body is hard to do initially. I can recall my early days where I thought I would not wake up if I went further. Eventually I did and the experience was a sort of test of my mettle. Fear is the biggest thing to overcome and self preservation is one of those physical world actions we have to stay very aware of whilst physical. This doesn't apply whatsoever in the non physical (NP). It's actually a powerful brake stopping development and once you cross this barrier things take a giant step forwards. You always wake without fail even if you seem to know it's a bad idea to try. I've been here so many times and have done so for over 50 years.
Once the fear is ignored you then need to drop the physical world from your thoughts and concentrate on an adventure into the NP. This is another big step and that self preservation kicks in constantly. Your body has an automated mechanism when you sleep and it's perfect in what it does. Remember this always and get on with experimenting into the otherwhere presenting itself. Once you can overcome these two initial fears, the rest is a smooth ride into the unknown. It's the difference between having enough determination and intent to proceed into whatever shows up or constantly failing to cross the border. Sounds easy and it is, this initial step is only a test of your mental prowess in getting into the correct mindset to obtain success. Your thoughts will manifest and this should also be known. If you think it'll fail, it will as you thought it would. If you are totally convinced it's all real (which it is), this too will manifest. It's the thoughts you have in your head that make the difference. Way back in the early 1900's fear of demons was used to impress anyone attempting to project in order they stop before they meet one. In reality these ideas put your mindset into a position of expecting something bad to show up and as this manifestation of thoughts works, these thoughts scared many from trying anything further. It's all hogwash and lies. I used to wander around the woods where I lived aged 3 or 4 years old. If these nasties were out there, I'd have been an easy target. I met none or anything remotely bad.
I think this will put your mind at rest as it's the unknown that scares you from making progress. Ignore the nonsense and go for it knowing that the fears are only self created manifestations. You're only scaring yourself and this fact once realised will prevent it.
Have fun.

[Riddle]

Thank you for the advice! Is there a topic (topics?) in the site where I can read about some stories, experience of your projections?

[Szaxx]

They're not in one place but you can read a good one if you have an hour.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/new_jericho_large_scale_retrieval-t42995.0.html;msg335266

[Riddle]

Oh my God. I can't believe what I just read. :O

[Nameless]

Hi Riddle, I have to agree with Szaxx, fear is the biggest obstacle to get over but once you do it really starts to come together and make sense. It is simple, just drop the nonsense, of course simple doesn't always mean easy. Remember there has never been a nightmare you didn't wake from perfectly intact.

[Riddle]

Yeah but  I don't know if you've read the story Szaxx shared but if he hadn't been capable of solving the problem and banishing these entities, who knows were they could have dragged the inhabitants of this place and what they could do. I am kind of in shock now, don't want to meet them in any place, ever. It is exactly creatures of this kind that I am afraid may reach me.
By the way, Szaxx, how come do you know such specifics, what are you by education?

[Szaxx]

There's only one thing you need to know that I've found out after thousands of posts is that whatever any of us experience in the NP, we can ALWAYS solve it and no harm whatsoever comes from it. It's a perfect method of teaching as it pushes you beyond what you think is your limit and this awakens what you are really made of.
I was born with the ability of projection and thought everyone could do it. My first memories of dreams were traveling around the woods at the back of where I lived, this was natural and it took years to realise that it was something nobody else could do. At 9 years old I'd had many experiences including a few years in the Badlands, a name I gave the place. At this age I'd learned all I needed and the doors to the astral opened up.  It continued to open more doors and new experiences which were challenging.
Along the way I've met all sorts of entities from good to bad and places way outside of dreams. After all this I'm still here and have no problem saying the fears of others are self inflicted nonsense, the same as watching a horror film at night and not being able to sleep. It's all controlled by thoughts and your natural reactions to them. Being strong minded and taking the reins in a bad situation you can change anything from your darkest nightmare into a summer's day.
Fear is the biggest challenge and if a 5 year old can beat the hellish places some people misinform you of, then anyone can do it.
Always remember you have guides watching you and this will keep your mind at rest. What's presented is always within your capabilities  and there's lots of fun doing these challenges.

[Riddle]

Now I feel more encouraged! By the way, do you think that after death we keep breathing after we have lost the physical need to do so?

[Subtle Traveler]

Hello Boyana ...

Beyond the body, we are generally more light and vibration. When the physical body dies, we do not (die) ... we simply go on as a consciousness. We are no longer attached to a physical body ... and there is no need for breathing, because the physical body and its five senses are gone.

Even during an out of body experience (which is a temporary experience away from the physical body while it is still alive), there is no breathing. While out of body, we have "forms" of other senses (e.g., sight, sound, knowing), but these non-physical senses are not like out five physical senses.

Hope this is helpful.

[Riddle]

I absolutely can't imagine what living without breathing would be! It just seems so suffocating.. have you experienced it during AP? What if you want to imitate breathing for old times sake? Would it be possible ?

[Subtle Traveler]

I absolutely can't imagine what living without breathing would be! It just seems so suffocating.. have you experienced it during AP? What if you want to imitate breathing for old times sake? Would it be possible ?

It is very "freeing" not having to breathe ... however I have not really thought about it during an experience ...

Also, part of your question does not make sense. To help you understand ... it is the biological brain which our controls breathing and physical body ... when you leave the body, you leave the physical body, lungs and biological brain behind ... you are using your mind or consciousness to see and/or experience. This is how you are able to "project" beyond the body.

What is really fun is all the new stuff you can do. In one of my first experiences beyond the body ... I suddenly had "zoom in" vision ... I could concentrate on something across the room and I would suddenly be able to see the object up close (without moving my body). Our abilities change during projection, because we are using a different apparatus or body.

You will have to try it yourself. As Szaxx already stated, there is nothing to be afraid of. There is no suffocation, because you are using a non-physical body which does not need air.

[Riddle]

Okay, since I am not sure whether to ask this question, I will do it here. Have you guys communicated telepathically? What is it exactly like? Can the others read your mind in the non-physical reality? In a sense, if you want to hide a though, would you be able to do it or the other one will automatically read it? Sometimes I feel I would be embarassed if others had access to some unpleasant sides of mine, which I would rather keep to myself.

[EscapeVelocity]

Hello Riddle,

This is a good question and probably needs its own separate thread as I am sure there are plenty of variables and nuances worth considering that others could offer.

Within my own particular experiences, I have seen a gradual improvement in what I perceive to be my set of telepathic abilities.

I think that generally speaking, if you are in a Non-Physical environment, then you must be using some form of telepathy, although our individual experience of the event may involve a kind of perceptual interpretation that makes it look and feel like we are speaking, at least in some early experiences. Your own dreams may be a good example.

In my early RTZ/etheric type experiences, I really only remember a couple instances of communication and in those as I tried to verbalize, I quickly realized the result was in a telepathic/mental form.

Strangely, when my experiences progressed into a more refined, technicolor environment, which I understood as a positive progression nonetheless, my attempts at verbalization resulted in clumsy, garbled-sounding word-garbage, which elicited looks of confusion from those I was attempting to communicate with; unlike before, I didn't automatically and naturally shift into mental communication. It was as if the environment was waiting for me to make the conscious realization that I had to change my method of communication. As my experiences progressed, so did this new skill, although I still have much to learn and still have occasional setbacks.

The next steps in telepathy seemed to encompass 2 parts: The ratio of who controls the sending/receiving between two communicating entities, and the amount and quality of information being exchanged.

First, early on, the sending/receiving could sometimes be so clear and instantaneous that I thought that I really had this skill figured out; then upon further reflection it occurred to me that it probably wasn't me, rather it was the being communicating with me that had the greater understanding and therefore control of the whole process, both my sending and his/her receiving; my part may have actually been quite small. Maybe instead of my skill at 'sending', it was his/her skill at pulling the information from my mind. That's part of the learning process, in and of itself.

Second, is realizing that telepathy does not occur in a string of words that you translate in a sequential fashion, although early on your interpretation may make it seem that way. As my progress continued, the sequential words became sentences and then whole paragraphs, then a page or more of information, then combined with feelings and images. I guess that at this point it is like knowing how to speed-read. And it continues to get faster, the amount of information that your Non-Physical mind can process. At some point, the ability of the Physical mind is left behind, it simply cannot operate effectively within the NP. This is where some experienced posters such as Szaxx and Lumaza have pointed out, that at some point we need to realize that we are developing a second operative mind, a NP mind that operates within and has different abilities to be developed within the NP Reality. This is a realization that I came to as well, several years ago. It is both exciting and very challenging.

This is an ability that can be developed over time; it happens with some effort and also quite naturally and instinctively at times. When whole groups of information are formed and sent/received, they come across like word-balloons or data packets or .pdf files or 'knowings'. The really big ones contain a huge amount of information and can 'float' somewhere near your consciousness for even years before you manage to tap into them, and then they can download a torrent of information that simply makes you say, "Wow! Where did that come from?"

You asked the question about others reading your thoughts and your ability to guard your innermost thoughts...

I will preface my answer by saying this is purely my opinion based on my experiences.

First I would point out that you are thinking about this from a much more narrow, Physical Reality viewpoint, rather than the NPR point of view. As you progress in your NP endeavors, you will continue to find that you need to expand and re-appraise your thinking about these things...and this process doesn't end anytime soon, I have to do the same thing, LOL...

Your deepest, most innermost thoughts are likely available to any entity that wants to know them. The trick is, if your thoughts are of a negative/defensive/antagonistic/combative nature, then the 'higher' beings simply won't be interested in communicating with you, because your 'energy' is nowhere near aligned with them. This is where the very slight danger of encountering any possible 'negative' or harmful entities may occur, as according to the older literature. For the most part, at least in our more modern age, this warning does not apply. Raise your energy another notch and commit yourself to better thinking; that's all it takes. If you are coming from a higher energy, then the lower energy simply cannot touch you. You will run into some Fear Tests from time to time but that is all part of the fun; knock them down like snowmen! But with that said, you do need to make a truly honest appraisal of your emotional make-up, your maturity, etc. From reading your earlier posts, it does sound like you are asking reasonable questions and that you do have the temperament to do this; heck, you managed to do it with no problems when you were 4 or 5, LOL.

Another trick of the NP mind is that these slightly negative doubts just don't occur when you ARE IN the NP...

Don't worry about it; you have guides looking out for you; you are protected; go have fun!

EV

[Subtle Traveler]

Okay, since I am not sure whether to ask this question, I will do it here. Have you guys communicated telepathically? What is it exactly like? Can the others read your mind in the non-physical reality? In a sense, if you want to hide a though, would you be able to do it or the other one will automatically read it? Sometimes I feel I would be embarassed if others had access to some unpleasant sides of mine, which I would rather keep to myself.

Hi Boyana ...

I just wanted to chime in and say that I think Escape Velocity has provided a very good, detailed, thoughtful answer to your question. He is a very experienced traveler.

I will add this. When you experience the non-physical, you are no longer limited by your physical senses or abilities. However, realize that your question is being proposed by your biological brain and you no longer use your biological brain in the non-physical ... you are using your consciousness (your being). Do you understand?

Because you are using "mind" or consciousness, there is much less personal fear. In fact, starting from a perspective of physical fear is not a helpful energy when attempting to move towards and explore the non-physical. You are safe.

As Szaxx often says, "see with your mind".

[Szaxx]

Hi, One thing you'll find is that all your secrets that you have are all physical world ones. These mean so little in the NP as the way things operate are totally different.
Your breathing enquiry is one I've been through too when young. I was under water in an experience and swimming around for ages before i realised i wasn't breathing. After jumping to the surface for air i realised it wasn't necessary so i let go of this physical constraint.
Years before i was travelling in space with no problems so i guess I'd already figured it out and forgot for a second.
You've a lot to learn in the differences between the tiny rigid physical world and the pliable NP environments.
For you to think about, some you can experience, you don't have a body or any form at all. There's no space as we know it. We are conciousness and this kind of experience will show you once your ready for it.

[Riddle]

Szaxx, as you are someone who has experienced a lot out of your physical body, I will ask you: do you think when you have travelled while being detached from your body you already know what it would feel like after death, or do you think it would be different?

[Subtle Traveler]

Szaxx, as you are someone who has experienced a lot out of your physical body, I will ask you: do you think when you have travelled while being detached from your body you already know what it would feel like after death, or do you think it would be different?

Hi Boyanna ...

I chatted briefly with Szaxx earlier this week, and he mentioned that he is really busy. He may respond here, but in case he does not, I wanted to offer the web site of a very experienced traveler and author ... his name is Jurgen Ziewe. He lives in England now, but grew up in Germany. He visited this forum many years ago under the screen name "Multidimentional Man". Jurgen has a web site with lots of FREE content that can answer your questions about the afterlife here:

http://www.multidimensionalman.com/

Because Jurgen is a very skilled traveler and artist, when he writes, he draws a very good mental picture for his readers. I read his most recent book about 18 months ago (Vistas of Infinity). You can read the reviews on Amazon, if you would like to learn more about that. He also has several interviews on YouTube where he talks about his non-physical explorations. He is very, very good.

I also think that you might like someone in Norway. Her name is Jannecke Oinaes, and she has a very popular YouTube channel which explores out of body experiences and other topics. The name of her channel is 'Wisdom from North'.

https://www.youtube.com/user/MsOinaes/featured

Hope this is helpful.

[Riddle]

Thank you for the information! I will definitely check them out, this is priceless.

[Szaxx]

Szaxx, as you are someone who has experienced a lot out of your physical body, I will ask you: do you think when you have travelled while being detached from your body you already know what it would feel like after death, or do you think it would be different?

That's a very good question, I've often wondered about this and having had many different experiences which could indicate what occurs. Reading other people's ideas about a sort of meeting room seems to be a strong contender as I've been in many of these over the years and then was taken to either a training exercise or to do some work. What's strange is being alive seems to give us a way out that's not apparently available to the NP inhabitants. Also we seem to have an advantage on manipulating the environment to suit the purpose of the work required. The locals seem to be limited.
When we pass i get the impression our choices are greater on what we've learned. If what we were required to learn hasn't been fulfilled then perhaps we are returned to try again. This answers the reincarnation question as validations are somewhat met with regressive hypnotherapy.
These meeting rooms do exist and strangely the results of other people's experiences are strikingly similar. The one we watch in the movie Beetlejuice is partly how it feels in some but they're not so crazy as in the movie. My first visit was in the 60's and for training purposes. I was confused and wondered what it's about but stayed there anyway. There's no meeting rooms in the physical to match them too. I suppose the best match to the feeling I had was the first day in school feeling. You are dropped off and then left alone knowing you will learn. Everything around you is new and you're taking your first steps into the wide world you've been sheltered from.
The many NP environments available I guess are limited to your whole personality, the one who you are right now in the physical is only a fraction of the whole you. Until you experience the 'connection' this will not be easy to understand or describe. You are a part of the whole and in this physical world everything you are and know has some form or other, getting beyond this and being pure conciousness needs to be experienced.
The initial stages only have been covered above, the placements are another thing altogether.

[Riddle]

By the way, guys, I wanted to show you the result of my aura scanning: I got white aura! This is what it looks like. Apparently my stongly charged chakras are 5 & 6 (if I recall correctly) which are the link to the spiritual world, and my least charged one is 1, which is the link with the Earth - that's why I tend to worry so much, I need more contact with this reality, more stability. And I have some sort of thinning around the throat, my immune system needs to get stabilised. Uhm, she said other things as well but I kind of forgot them.