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Wronski Feint

there is a reason everyone says that you must be angry to become 'super', this is partly true.  Usually in a normal state, we dont acheive the clairity of thought nor the strong will like we do when we are angry.  Another instance of you becomig super is when youre in danger.  Most people argue that adrialine is the cause of these amazing feats of strength, but i think energy comes in and helps.  

Im the kind of person who bottles up their anger.  I do not beleive this is unhealthy.  I think that using anger helps in certain situations.  If the only way to unlock the energy is to get mad, then why disperse all your anger? Keeping some nice anger on hand is good, just dont let it control you.  Also when i get mad, and i mean MAD not frustrated, I have no idea what goes on untill i calm down.  This scares me somtimes, but it takes alot to get me there.  The most important thing is to controll your anger and use it to your advantage.  Anger is the great motivator.
"Come and See"
So I looked, and behold a dark angel.  And the name of him was Life, and Hell fell before him.
And power was given to him over the whole of the earth, to clense with mind, with sword, with light and by the love of the earth.

TheDarkChakra

Oh wow. But it can be anything other than anger, it can be a huge emotion. But mostly a great amount of emotion is generated through anger because humans are self-centered greedy bastards.

Yeah like Wronski Feint stated is can be unlocked when youre in danger or wanna help someone badly, like if someone is dieing and youre like only a beginner to healing and you're like desperate for more chi energy and then new energy comes out, empowering all of your muscles,bones, and cells.

If chi exists than maybe theres a much secret energy way deeper in human body, maybe its invisible and unnoticable.

The author of our ultimate reality did a lot of research on energy that is within us that is hard to see we call chi/ki/qi but God probably made human much more complicated than that. I think God wanted humans to not cut themselves to see whats inside but he knew we would anyway someday so he made much secret very important organs(i think they can be called organs), like the ones we can see it good for us to know about how to improve our health but maybe "chi" is secret ebcause of humans found out, we could be too invinsible such as a lot of people actually going "super human".

Yes i bottle up my anger too but i heard from my sources that its even better to achieve super human when you're bottled up, now all i need is great martial arts skill, muscle strengh, and extreme chi control i heard. I only believe it, i did not see anyone use it but belief is a strong force.
Great martial arts skill and strengh which is even stronger than people like "Bruce Lee" used to be.

Wronski Feint

you dont need great martial art skills.  I watched the matrix 5 times and once in slow motion. :lol:
"Come and See"
So I looked, and behold a dark angel.  And the name of him was Life, and Hell fell before him.
And power was given to him over the whole of the earth, to clense with mind, with sword, with light and by the love of the earth.

TheDarkChakra

I'm guessing skill meaning great chi and muscle control. but definately great chi control and a lot of anger not "Blind Rage" just letting out all u bottled up for months.

EtheriK

So why do you pursue this power again?

NickJW

I don't believe in the anger making you stronger, sure maybe brute strength, but that won't win the fight always.
It's like Bruce Lee said, showing no emotion, you must stay calm and emotionless, to study the opponent. Becoming angry will just result in you flailing your arms and a skilled martial artist will hit you before you get a chance to strike.

TheDarkChakra

Quote from: EtheriKSo why do you pursue this power again?

I'm just curious that's all. I'm gonna become a martial artists so it will help me out a lot there.

Quote from: NickJWI don't believe in the anger making you stronger, sure maybe brute strength, but that won't win the fight always.
It's like Bruce Lee said, showing no emotion, you must stay calm and emotionless, to study the opponent. Becoming angry will just result in you flailing your arms and a skilled martial artist will hit you before you get a chance to strike.

That's the quote when Bruce Lee talks about when you re in battle like blind rage and u will lose focus and will have less chance of victory. But i mean just releasing your anger to achieve greater power.

NickJW

Well, I don't believe emotions can really change your strength. Emotions only cloud your judgement. They are most illogical. :shock:

I'm not sure how it is possible to become empowered by your anger, yet when you fight that anger disappears (as to not cloud your judgement) but you still have all the power from it. Dosen't make any sense. And a true martial artist dosen't worry about ki ball attacks, since kicks and punches will be much more effective and efficient in battle.

TheDarkChakra

Quote from: NickJWWell, I don't believe emotions can really change your strength. Emotions only cloud your judgement. They are most illogical. :shock:

I'm not sure how it is possible to become empowered by your anger, yet when you fight that anger disappears (as to not cloud your judgement) but you still have all the power from it. Doesn't make any sense. And a true martial artist doesn't worry about Ki ball attacks, since kicks and punches will be much more effective and efficient in battle.

What are you talking about?

Chi balls can become so powerful they can burn humans alive they are actually your trump card attack. They are much More powerful than hand to hand.

Once again for the 3rd time i dont mean BLIND RAGE i mean like something makes u mad and u just let it out through shouting while fully in control. Just like in Dragon Ball Z rage can make u much stronger and energy balls can hurt u more than kicks and punches but its a little different here, cartoon is cartoon and real life is real life and the cartoon probably took everything from real life rather than people took from the cartoon and i dont watch dragon ball z yet i still know that's its possible.

NickJW

Holy crap, DBZ isn't real! Ther is NOBODY and I mean NOBODY alive who can burn people with ki ball attacks! Your a kid trying to make your DBZ fantasy real, and its just not gonna happen. Even people who claim they can make ki balls, they say they can just push you or hurt you, not burn you. If ki was flammable, wouldn't we be on fire all the time?

You are so gullible its not even funny anymore, DBZ ISN'T REAL!!!!!!

Even in old Japanese scriptures, people who could light things on fire with their ki could not kill people with it, they could light things like paper on fire. You can believe in ki, but be practical. Sorry but what you believe to be possible with ki is just corny and fake.

And humans can't transform. Explain to me how the laws of biology would allow this.

I have been involved in the Martial Arts for nearly 10 years, yes ki balls are real but they are no where near as powerful as you think, and the time it takes to charge one up is to long, especially since a punch or kick can be more effective.

moogle_assassin

Lol, I can't beleive how obbsesed you are! yes, ki balls and psi balls are real, but they can not hurt you. They can be vissible to, I have flared them before (a way to prove that chi exists) but all they can be used for is to learn basic energy manipulation. they can not be used as weapons. If you wanna learn how to make psiballs go to psipog.net
"They've been throwing rocks at Alito all week long, and those rocks have just been bouncing off that obelisk, boomeranging and smacking at Democrats upside the head."

"Club Gitmo- your tropical escape from the stresses of gihad

TheDarkChakra

Eh eh u think its not real. But i saw my friends do it, he said he only used .1% and he blow up a huge rock. It is possible wether u believe it or not because it was kept a secret very well for generations and only those kids who are children of these generations knows how to destroy things whi chi and everything. Doesnt matter how long you've been invlolved in Martial Arts, you must know how to do it.

Whatever i'm not gonna argue and prooving people somethign i dont have to. I made this post to see if theres anyone coming here right now that know super human. Its very rare so i guess its fair.

moogle_assassin

I know someone like you, he can never admit to being anything but 10000% right. He will keep making lies to try and prove his point. im not saying your lieing (althought it is highly possible). There is no such thing as the powers that you see in cartoons. Just like you can not attack someone useing a spell from a D&D book. It is not hte way the universe is designed. and even if it was possible, by the time you reached that level you would be so enlightend that you would not use the powers. and being ticked off does not give you power, it takes them away. to beable to manipulate energy you need to be calm and have your mind clear. DBZ IS NOT REAL!
"They've been throwing rocks at Alito all week long, and those rocks have just been bouncing off that obelisk, boomeranging and smacking at Democrats upside the head."

"Club Gitmo- your tropical escape from the stresses of gihad

TheDarkChakra

Oh what do u know! I know the truth and its what i know and i dont care anything else, i am convinced and i know what i know. You can believe whatever you feel in, i'll just follow the secret truth about everything.

moogle_assassin

Ok, you do that. Have fun sinking into DBZ cult beliefs.
"They've been throwing rocks at Alito all week long, and those rocks have just been bouncing off that obelisk, boomeranging and smacking at Democrats upside the head."

"Club Gitmo- your tropical escape from the stresses of gihad

EtheriK

Martial arts is exactly that. An art form. Blowing stuff up doesn't seem very artistic to me. If you "know" the "truth", why did you come here to ask about it? If you truly did know without a shadow of a doubt the things you've mentioned are true, you wouldn't be here asking people how to go about it. These forums are designed so that we may each debate matters of interest in a civilized manner in order to gain a deeper understanding of that which we pursue. This isn't a contest to see who knows the most. Everybody here's trying to help each other out with gaining a deeper understanding of the esoteric. So if you truly do know how to "get really ticked and blow stuff up", why don't you share what you know? This forum exists to promote growth through knowledge and understanding. Understand?

NickJW

After all the denial and arguing for the last 4 pages, you only mention that you saw your friend blow a rock up now? That is so b/s and you know it or you would have used it in argument in the first page of this conversation!

TheDarkChakra

Let me tell you why im here and i want to know...

I came here to ask around if there is anyone else whos coming around here recently who did it. I want to know more data about the mystical super human form and other ways of achieving it other than rage. I'm interested in unlocking further power that is secret from us.
I didnt post here meaning to making an asian cartoon debate but rather the mysteries of human body and so called "supernatural powers".

I am here because i believe anything is possible for a human to achieve physically and i am not using any fantasy cartoonish imagination by some creators of fiction. It's because i heard of such level and im thinking its possible.

It's because of ginorant fools like most of you who deny some facts just because you grew up being told that a human cannot do this and knowing what the strongest men in the world can do you people are thinking that doing anything more is beyond our limits. Its the same as hating Jewish people just because they have their own beliefs and thoughts about God.

...

Yet im different. I was born with a lot of imagination and not many people can say "anything is impossible" .

moogle_assassin

erm, I grew up knowing anything is possible. I have a few theorys.
A, we are all being taken for a ride.
B, this guy was taken for a ride by his "friend."

Did it ever occure to you that your friend may have been pulling your leg? I to beleive that anything is possible, but this is extremley improbable.
"They've been throwing rocks at Alito all week long, and those rocks have just been bouncing off that obelisk, boomeranging and smacking at Democrats upside the head."

"Club Gitmo- your tropical escape from the stresses of gihad

Wronski Feint

Quote from: NickJWI don't believe in the anger making you stronger, sure maybe brute strength, but that won't win the fight always.
It's like Bruce Lee said, showing no emotion, you must stay calm and emotionless, to study the opponent. Becoming angry will just result in you flailing your arms and a skilled martial artist will hit you before you get a chance to strike.

No, uncontrolled anger can result in you flailing your arms.  Anger is a human emotion, it part of being human, while supressing isnt always bad, pretending youre not angry or trying to run from your anger is.   And youre not seeing what happens when you get mad, your mind becomed incredibly clear and youre running strait off instincts.  Its very hard to become that way in a normal state, therefore, through the use of controlled anger, you can acheive that state of mind.  

And I really dont follow the religious teachings of Bruce Lee.  He had skills, but what works for him, dosnt work for everyone.  And im not talking about martial arts, this is what is throwing you all off.  What im talking about is more of a skill all its own, not a aspect of fighting.  Im saying that you can heal faster, never get sick, do amazing physical things(besides fighting) and have an easier time with tk and psi balls and such.  We need to get the fighting out of the conversation, cause its a really bad example and its confusing people.

Quote from: NickJWAnd humans can't transform. Explain to me how the laws of biology would allow this.

Um, this isnt a place for textbook biology, if youre looking for science, youre in the wrong place.  

Quote from: NickJWHoly crap, DBZ isn't real! Ther is NOBODY and I mean NOBODY alive who can burn people with ki ball attacks! Your a kid trying to make your DBZ fantasy real, and its just not gonna happen. Even people who claim they can make ki balls, they say they can just push you or hurt you, not burn you. If ki was flammable, wouldn't we be on fire all the time?

Dood, that isnt cool.  Bruce lee would never put sombody down for beleiving in somthing.  Just because you dont agree, dosnt make them wrong or stupid.   If you think sombody is wrong, move on.  Just let it go, dont argue.
"Come and See"
So I looked, and behold a dark angel.  And the name of him was Life, and Hell fell before him.
And power was given to him over the whole of the earth, to clense with mind, with sword, with light and by the love of the earth.

NickJW

A make one reference to Bruce Lee and now I am him? I don't care if this isn't a place for science, all things in the physical must abide by scientific rules, and a human transforming is biologically impossible. I never said he was stupid, I was merely stating the fact like many others who posted, that he IS getting this from DragonBall and that he does not understand the true concept of chi. If your mind was clear when you were angry, then you wouldn't have a state of emotion. Emotions are a most illogical tool for superhuman feats, especially primitive ones such as anger.

TheDarkChakra

Quote from: NickJWA make one reference to Bruce Lee and now I am him? I don't care if this isn't a place for science, all things in the physical must abide by scientific rules, and a human transforming is biologically impossible. I never said he was stupid, I was merely stating the fact like many others who posted, that he IS getting this from DragonBall and that he does not understand the true concept of chi. If your mind was clear when you were angry, then you wouldn't have a state of emotion. Emotions are a most illogical tool for superhuman feats, especially primitive ones such as anger.

You still dont comprehend what i mean. I mean just releasing it through scream just release while in controlled state. I cant explain it like that.

NickJW: You said its biologically impossible to go superhuman. Which scientist found out the chi storage in our body? None that i heard of. You know that its there because God made it invisible or something.

People! I am not under any circumstances taking anything i said from an anime! I'm taking this from a friend and a website i saw. Something about his talk makes me want to believe it. Lying to me for months is too retarted for a guy like him. Even a 13 would stop after a week. But hes not 13.

By the way (nothing to do with chi, just normal human limits), Bruce Lee was considered one of the the strongest man in the world yet his style of workouts were those within human limits. I have his book on workouts and the ones he did, he limits his sets and reps and makes rules like add 5 reps every week to
  • amount of sets you're up to right now. But i once tried to surpass his teachings and way of workout, i did as many reps as i could with more sets than he would use for himself and that probably makes people stronger faster. He was the strongest man in the world within the limits but you can surpass them. The people who did keep a very low profile. So unless you read every persons mind in the whole world all over 6 billion of them or talked to God about this than you cannot be definitely sure of the real limits of human being.

    Wow Wronski Feint is the only one here who isn't against me. Wronski Feint is saying that it could be possible like me (i think so).

    It sucks so much being hates and ignored for just saying something very impossible like :(.

Ybom

Quote from: TheDarkChakraYou still dont comprehend what i mean. I mean just releasing it through scream just release while in controlled state. I cant explain it like that...

People! I am not under any circumstances taking anything i said from an anime! I'm taking this from a friend and a website i saw. Something about his talk makes me want to believe it. Lying to me for months is too retarted for a guy like him. Even a 13 would stop after a week. But hes not 13.

By the way (nothing to do with chi, just normal human limits), Bruce Lee was considered one of the the strongest man in the world yet his style of workouts were those within human limits. I have his book on workouts and the ones he did, he limits his sets and reps and makes rules like add 5 reps every week to
  • amount of sets you're up to right now. But i once tried to surpass his teachings and way of workout, i did as many reps as i could with more sets than he would use for himself and that probably makes people stronger faster. He was the strongest man in the world within the limits but you can surpass them. The people who did keep a very low profile. So unless you read every persons mind in the whole world all over 6 billion of them or talked to God about this than you cannot be definitely sure of the real limits of human being.

    Wow Wronski Feint is the only one here who isn't against me. Wronski Feint is saying that it could be possible like me (i think so).

    It sucks so much being hates and ignored for just saying something very impossible like :(.
I respect what you have posted here more than any other of your posts, however you have opened yourself up so in a way you have made yourself more vulnerable to others here, but it doesn't matter because the emotions you have put into your words seem to truly speak how you feel on the surface.

One of the issues I'd like to discuss with you though is your feelings of others. You state that there is only one person here on your side, but you forgot me. I am also completely against you though, but not for the reasons you probably expect. Given that... I challenge and urge you to go back through this entire thread and read each post as if they were whole heartedly in favor of you pulling off everything you say. I expect if you can do that, and eliminate the feelings you get from each post and replace them with positives, you will find much more truth in what you seek from what has been said, instead of dwelling on the painful side of it. Dealing with pain is an important part of the growing process, but becoming a master of that doesn't seem in line with the goals you currently seek, so STOP IT lol.

Another issue that bothers me a bit is that you seem to be a very emotional person underneath, who focuses on a particular truth whether it is honest or not. Some may call this naive, but they don't realize that this path can lead to manipulation of reality if you master it. Learn to make things happen whether they are true or not, because I think with patience and practice you probably can, and you're already on your way! Good luck, but please try to keep out of my realities for now unless you intend to help me.

I would like to additionally speak of two more things that combined hold quite a bit of power in most things: patience and perceverance. They are extremely hard to explain to those with ADHD, however I have an example for those of them who like stories and is based on something that happens every day in reality but goes unheard. In bridge construction, contractors are required by permit to drive the pileons (the big poles holding it up) by a compactor down to bedrock and then pounded again to see if it's stable at that point. Several times in history it has been known that these pileons sometimes break through the bedrock due to the amount of weight of vehicles going over them over time. Sometimes this weight can be added up and calculated to be the energy value equal or less than the energy value of one more strike by the pounding compressor. The morals; if you want to give up just give it one more strike; or avoid bridges whenever possible!
I come prepared...with COOKIES! No, you can't have one!

NickJW

Chi is your energy, and we know that your body needs energy to survive. It is impossible for your body to change its form, chi or no chi. Yes there are probably people out there that are stronger than Bruce Lee, but there are no people which can blow things up with there chi and transform like in DBZ. You can practice chi balls, but you will never get them to blow things up. Even the most skilled chi ball makers can't kill people and blow things up with them.

(PS if you have ever read the Tao Of Jeet Kune Do, you will see that Bruce Lee didn't believe in limiting yourself and did believe in chi)

Wronski Feint

Well i agree with  TDC on some degree.   I dont think that when enough chi is stored or used that your muscles grow and your hair turns big an blonde.    I do however agree, that under the right control and circumstances you can become much stronger than you are now, and you will gain the ability to do things that normal humans cant do.  No physical/visual transformation required.  Althgouh high amounts of energy flowing through the body is bound to cause some kind of physical change, whether its a big change like the dragonball series or a small change, like light distortion.    

And to nick's stament,  the 'true'  concept of chi, is just that, a concept.   You see, what somthing means to one person, isnt what it means to another.   Its based on perspective.  One ancient asian guy said 'Chi is this...'  and thats his view on the matter.  It dosnt make it true.  In my short time in this place, i have come to realize that nothing is certain and nothing is truely true.   In the beggining there was the word.   If everybody says somthing is true, then people beleives it is.   All I know is that nobody tells me what im looking at, I interpret for myself.  I really dont beleive that clarity of thought requires no emotion, again you are getting this from the martial arts, which sombody told you that in order for you to have a clear mind, you must not have emotion.   I, as earlier stated, dont let sombody tell me what my i need to have clear thought, i know what I need.  

Of course, your views are your own, and its not my place to discard your beleifs, just like it wasnt your right to discard TDC's beleifs as somthing unrealistic.    So I say no more arguing and just let sombody beleive what they want, its not gonna hurt you to let a person beleive they can be super sajin(or however you spell it).   Humans have such a problem with things that oppose them.  We all need to get over it.

EDIT:  I meant to add that even though things in the physical abide by the rules of physics, the methaphysical can alter the physical worlld.  And humans hasnt figured out the pysics to everything yet.
"Come and See"
So I looked, and behold a dark angel.  And the name of him was Life, and Hell fell before him.
And power was given to him over the whole of the earth, to clense with mind, with sword, with light and by the love of the earth.