The Astral Pulse

After studying reports on the effects of orgone and various frequencies I have decided to create an astral projection device, capable of inducing an OBE for anyone.

This will be my preliminary report so that I can get opinions from everyone.

Components:

• 7x orgone generators (http://www.wizzersworkshop.com/OFP_overview2008e.pdf) connected to a computer to produce various output frequencies.
• Software program - Aligns generators to the various chakras stimulating them for various controlled intervals. 
• Brain-wave goggles
• Stereo headphones

Various Chakra Stimulating Frequencies

Base Chakra = 261.63 Hz
Spleen Chakra = 293.66 Hz
Solar Plexus Chakra = 329.63 Hz
Heart Chakra = 349.23 Hz
Throat Chakra = 392.00 Hz
Third Eye Chakra = 440.00 Hz
Crown Chakra = 493.88 Hz


How it works

The Brain-wave (http://www.hackcanada.com/homegrown/wetware/brainwave/index.html) goggles will be put on along with a headset that induces various frequencies.
The custom software program will start out at alpha(15 hz) and slowly work its was down to theta(3-8 hz).

diagram 1 (http://onfinite.com/libraries/1512080/745.jpg)

As your brain wave frequencies slow the chakra stimulation will begin.
The orgone generators will produce the specific frequency for each chakra. (see chart above)
Starting at the base it will stimulate each chakra for 3-5 minutes moving towards the crown chakra.
Specific crystals (http://www.bestcrystals.com/chakra~1.html) will be inserted in each orgone generator to maximize the effect on every individual chakra.

diagram 2 (http://onfinite.com/libraries/1512079/c02.jpg)

Once all chakras are stimulated and the user is in a deep theta state an exit technique will be used to exit the body.

that sounds complicated. If I had the resources I would build one of these for sure!

My goal is to help others experience Astral Projection and OBEs on a consistent basis without prior training.

Good luck with that.  :-o

I am however of the opinion that a truly lucid astral experience might not be for everyone. Not without the prerequisite training/mindset.
There is a reason it is hard to achieve. You will go there when you are ready. It can mess with your waking mind unless your mind/soul whatever is ready for it.

It is like trying to ride a superbike without ever having been on a motorcycle. There are lots of really strange energies and entities and sensations.... I just don't think it is something that should or could be forced.  :|

At least, that's how I have experienced it. I could be wrong.

Quote from: interception on August 11, 2009, 20:11:10
Good luck with that.  :-o

I am however of the opinion that a truly lucid astral experience might not be for everyone. Not without the prerequisite training/mindset.
There is a reason it is hard to achieve. You will go there when you are ready. It can mess with your waking mind unless your mind/soul whatever is ready for it.

It is like trying to ride a superbike without ever having been on a motorcycle. There are lots of really strange energies and entities and sensations.... I just don't think it is something that should or could be forced.  :|

At least, that's how I have experienced it. I could be wrong.

they will be fine :D

will be great if you can prove the existence of soul and other spiritual things with that device
even if they think it creates a virtual reality within your mind its still great! a virtual reality device! sounds cool

build it kurtykurt42 :D

I have been researching the effects of various frequencies applied to quartz crystals.

The orgone generator seems to take energy from the etheric dimension (etheric energy) and has the capacity to change the energy from one state to another. By wrapping a wire(mobius coil) around the quartz and applying low frequencies(5hz - 500hz) the device is capable of processing one form of energy into another form.

The energy that i am talking about here exists in the 4th dimension and goes by many different names. Orgone, Odic Force, Reiki, Prana, Chi, Aether, Etheric Energy, Bioenergy, Biomagnetism, Bioetheric Energy, Huna, Animal Magnetism, Soft Electrons / Negative Ion Clouds, Gravity Wave Effects, Cavity Structures Effect, Dark Matter, Zero Point Energy, Quanta, Bions, Radiesthesia, Radionics Astral Energy, 4th Dimensional Energy, Emotional Body Energy, Life Force, to name a few. I like etheric energy the best.

The etheric energy has wave patterns which can have an adverse or beneficial impact on living organisms.
Devices which both generate energy and emit energy wave patterns can be thought of as transmitting antennas, and the wave pattern is the signal to be transmitted. Similar to how information is passed through wi-fi waves at the Ghz frequency. When you use a wireless internet connection to send and receive data, it is processing the data though an antenna at about 2.4 Ghz or 2,400,000,000 cycles per second.

The principle remains the same here but is working in another dimension, the etheric plane or 4th dimension. Since all living beings seem to be made of this energy that exists in the 4th dimension it would seem wise for us to learn more about it. Although, at this point in time it is difficult for many scientists to accept it's existence due to the fact that we have no instruments to measure the energy or even prove it exists.

I plan to build a couple different devices and hook them up to computers to test different frequencies. The introduction of the light-goggles and binaural beats will in my opinion strengthen my sensitivity to the effects of the energy produced by the orgone generators. I will continue to research the various effects of orgone devices on the etheric body and try to determine how it applies to astral projection / OBEs.

If you can get a working prototype going and prove that it works, I will be the first in line with an order.

Howdy Kurtykurt you are so smart this invention sounds awsome. You should call it the astral inducer
3000. Just a thought anyways hope you can do it.

I finished designing the LED goggles. I will be using about 4 - 8 LEDs per eye, it's difficult to decide how many and what colors to use. I will just have to experiment a little.

(http://onfinite.com/libraries/1512497/774.jpg)

I am using a USB microcontroller module to control the various LED frequencies. It works on the same principle as the binaruial audio beats. The number of flashes per second are referred to as hertz (Hz). I am designing a cool software program that will allow the user to control the frequency from 3Hz - 20Hz.

Next i'm going to make some orgone generators. There are several machine factories around the city i will go to and ask for all there metal shavings. Basically you just mix the metal pieces with the resign and add a couple of crystals. For it to become a generator you need to add a couple digital components and wrap coils around the crystals. I might even make USB orgone generators!

Lets just hope you don't have a seizure with all of those flashing lights.

As long as you don't have Photosensitive epilepsy you will be fine.

It looks like i'm not the first person to come up with a device like this...

http://gentletruthhealing.com/Crystal_Bed_Treatment.html

"What is a Crystal Bed?
A crystal bed has 7 extremely clear and highly polished quartz crystals suspended approximately 12 inches above the client lying on a massage table. Each of the quarts crystals has been cut to a specific frequency. Each crystal is aligned above one of the seven human energy centers or chakras. Colored lights, chosen to match the chakra colors, radiate light and energy through the crystals to each respective chakra, and shine on and off in certain rhythms to cleanse, balance, and align your energies. The individual receiving the session rests face up with eyes closed, bathing in the energy."
(http://gentletruthhealing.com/images/crystal_bed_ozkb.jpg)

I have been studying the effects of crystals used with energy work by various masters of reiki and crystals. All crystals produce
vibrational frequencies known as piezoelectric effects, i.e. The modern quartz watch. All varieties of crystals and gemstones emit their own unique electrical frequencies. These frequencies work in harmony with our own human magnetic fields (Aura).

What i have come to learn is that by wrapping a copper coil around a quartz crystal and applying various frequencies you can duplicate the effects of various crystals. After reading numerous articles and websites I am still not 100% certain which crystals work the best for the various chakras. It seems that the color of the crystal applies directly to the color of the chakra.

In my opinion the effect of these crystals on the energy body should not be as powerful as a larger quartz crystal encased in orgone. If the frequencies of those crystals can be duplicated by using quartz and applying various frequencies then the effect should be much greater. Due to the fact that standard clear quartz crystals are much larger. In the device above they also use LEDs in the devices to send various light waves through the quartz. By using the orgone generator to encapsulate the entire quartz crystal , LEDs and then covering it with a copper pipe to focus the energy, i believe it will work to stimulate the chakras in a way that will be felt by almost anyone.

(http://www.ancienthealingcenter.com/7_chakra_tumbled_stone_1.jpg)

Will you produce machines to sell, and if you do so, will you sell mainly in the USA/Canada or will you export it to the rest of the world? Any idea on the price you'de be selling each unit?

I have got a few products i am looking to build and possibly sell just for fun. I am finishing drawing the blueprints so i know exactly what components to use.

Lucid Dream Mask: Similar to all the other products. It has two LEDs and i will program it to blink in various patterns after 3-4 hours. It will also output sound frequencies out of a tiny speaker in the range of 10 - 20 Hz.

Orgone Field Pulse Generator: This will use a  Arduino Microcontroller with a LCD display keypad  (http://www.ekitszone.com/images/ekitszone/lcd-keypad-1.jpg) and output the frequency in Hertz to the LCD screen. It is powered by a 9v adapter and you will be able to adjust the frequency from 1 - 1000 Hz using the keypad. The microcontroller is attached to a double terminated quartz crystal with a 50 ft copper mobius coil wrapped around it. The entire unit will be encased in orgone made of metal shavings and resin to hold everything in place.

LED Brainwave Glasses: (see previous post)

Astral Projection Device: This will look almost identical to the picture above. Using the same concept of the
Orgone Field Pulse Generator, it will use 7 smaller devices (without LCD and microcontroller) to output a focused frequency at the various chakras. All of the cables will be connected to the Arduino Microcontroller that will control the frequency of all 7 generators. I am still researching which frequencies and light patterns are the best to use for maximum chakra stimulation. As for the metal pole that is holding them up i was thinking of using a  pop up clothes hanger (http://www.asseenontvguys.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=345) or something similar.

As for the prices, they will be considerably less then than what you see online (until i start to sell a lot :)). I'll start working on a website as soon as i'm finished building and testing the devices. 

Excuse my ignorance: What kind of field the "Orgone field Pulse generator" produces?



Not sure about that one but, at least I know that last sentence of yours made me one of your first buyers ;)

In simple terms, the orgone field generator makes use of the fluid characteristics of Etheric energy, and also makes
use of the wave properties of this energy. It is an Aether vortex chamber (created by the mobius
coil) surrounded by a casing of Etheric energy generating material. The result is that you have a
stream of Etheric energy coming out of the device, and the stream of energy carries a wave
pattern determined by the signal used to drive the coil.

There are many great websites and e-books out there for you to further understand how it all works. All I can say for sure is that these devices do seem to effect the  human energy field (http://www.localaccess.com/HealingHands/Human%20Energy%20Field.htm).

Here are a few examples of Wave patterns applied to clear quartz crystals:

Alpha 7.0 Hz   ~ To Enhance ESP [Extra Sensory Projection], & Intuition
Alpha 12.0 Hz ~ For Balance, & Greater Harmony
Theta 3.5 HZ  ~ For Super Learning, Especially Of Languages, & Retention
Theta 6.3 Hz  ~ For Super Learning, To Boost Memory, & Mental Confidence
Beta 14.1 Hz  ~ For Efficiency In Daily Activities: Emotional, Mental, & Physical
4.9 Hz ~ Induce relaxation, meditation & deeper sleep
528 Hz ~ Mend DNA and strengthens the cell wall to boost immunity
441 Hz ~ Clears a chaotic room of negative entities
30 KHz [square wave] ~ cures AIDS, if you  change your lifestyle too.

References:

http://www.newspiritservices.com/radionicsinstruction.html
http://www.pranagenerator.com/
http://www.radionics.org/
http://www.xtrememind.com/a_amagicofthefuture.pdf
http://www.wizzersworkshop.com/Modern_Orgone_5/M_O_5.pdf

I just don't want to go to so much trouble to achieve an AP personally. I mean I'd prefer to discover myself how to induce it naturally :).

When I first came to this forum the only thing i cared about was astral projection. Later I realized that in order to fully understand astral projection you need to understand everything about metaphysics. Understanding what energy is, how it works and how it effects us is difficult to understand. My goal now is to use my knowledge of computer engineering and technology to better understand how energy functions and possibly take away some of the mystery.

Regarding the LED's, I think red, orange and yellow work best. I read somewhere that blue and white can damage your eyesight (especially blue). But I'm sure you knew that already.....

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on August 17, 2009, 07:01:51
In simple terms, the orgone field generator makes use of the fluid characteristics of Etheric energy, and also makes
use of the wave properties of this energy. It is an Aether vortex chamber (created by the mobius
coil) surrounded by a casing of Etheric energy generating material. The result is that you have a
stream of Etheric energy coming out of the device, and the stream of energy carries a wave
pattern determined by the signal used to drive the coil.

There are many great websites and e-books out there for you to further understand how it all works. All I can say for sure is that these devices do seem to effect the  human energy field (http://www.localaccess.com/HealingHands/Human%20Energy%20Field.htm).

Here are a few examples of Wave patterns applied to clear quartz crystals:

Alpha 7.0 Hz   ~ To Enhance ESP [Extra Sensory Projection], & Intuition
Alpha 12.0 Hz ~ For Balance, & Greater Harmony
Theta 3.5 HZ  ~ For Super Learning, Especially Of Languages, & Retention
Theta 6.3 Hz  ~ For Super Learning, To Boost Memory, & Mental Confidence
Beta 14.1 Hz  ~ For Efficiency In Daily Activities: Emotional, Mental, & Physical
4.9 Hz ~ Induce relaxation, meditation & deeper sleep
528 Hz ~ Mend DNA and strengthens the cell wall to boost immunity
441 Hz ~ Clears a chaotic room of negative entities
30 KHz [square wave] ~ cures AIDS, if you  change your lifestyle too.

References:

http://www.newspiritservices.com/radionicsinstruction.html
http://www.pranagenerator.com/
http://www.radionics.org/
http://www.xtrememind.com/a_amagicofthefuture.pdf
http://www.wizzersworkshop.com/Modern_Orgone_5/M_O_5.pdf

Thank you  :-)

I just finished designing a cool website using Adobe Dreamweaver and some free eCommerce templates. My goal is to make a website with reasonably priced products that help aid in astral projection and energy body development. Most websites only offer binaural beat software and charge a fortune.

If anyone could think of a few other astral projection products i could put on the website that would be great.

A reality testing sleep mask would be good.  It would have the same function as the one on the NovaDreamer, ie: you press a button between your eyes and it flashes an LED in your eyes. If the button gives no flash, you're dreaming.
When I was using my NovaDreamer,  reality testing using the button gave me many more lucid dreams than recognising the lights in my dreams, triggered by the REM detector. I used to press the button every time I woke up (or thought I had woken up!) and very often would find I was still dreaming. It's amazing how many awakenings are false, and the reality tester button catches every one.
That made me think about having a less bulky,(little or no circuit board) more comfortable and much less expensive sleep mask with just the reality testing function. Much simpler to build obviously, and very effective.
If you can build a good one of those, I'll be your first customer...

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on August 11, 2009, 15:06:37
My goal is to help others experience Astral Projection and OBEs on a consistent basis without prior training.

Technically, you might as well just tell people to smoke up.  LoL
This "device" really lets you jump past the journey... which is the most important part of Projecting and learning to project.

But it is interesting, none-the-less.  :)

I'm just about finished making an orgone generator with quartz crystals. Although, not just any orgone generator.

It uses an Arduino microcontroller with LCD and push buttons  (http://www.ekitszone.com/images/ekitszone/lcd-keypad-1.jpg)to generate frequencies and then transfers the frequency to the double terminated quartz crystals (http://stonebridgeimports.com/stonebridge/images/Fotos/crystal_wand_dt.jpg) via magnet wire. All of this is then encased in a block of orgone which is made primarily of metal shavings and resin.

There are 10 pre-programmed frequencies which you can use the buttons to navigate:

7.0 Hz   ~ To Enhance ESP [Extra Sensory Projection], & Intuition
12.0 Hz  ~ For Cantering Yourself And Balance, & Greater Harmony
3.5 HZ   ~ For Super Learning, Especially Of Languages, & Retention
6.3 Hz   ~ For Super Learning, To Boost Memory, & Mental Confidence
14.1 Hz  ~ For Efficiency In Daily Activities: Emotional, Mental, & Physical
4.9 Hz   ~ Induce relaxation, meditation & deeper sleep
528 Hz   ~ Mend DNA and strengthens the cell wall to boost immunity [Dr Rife]
441 Hz   ~ The King's Chamber, clears a chaotic room [Dr Rife]
360 Hz   ~ The Balance Frequency, brings sensations of joy and healing.
30 KHz   ~ Helps fight disease

Then you can also do manual frequency control and control frequencies from 1Hz to 100 KHz.

My research while working on this project has led me to conclude that quartz crystals do possess energetic properties. Various research has led me to the conclusion that they are able to structure, store, amplify, focus, transmit and transform energy, which includes matter, thought, emotion and information. By wrapping the crystal in 40-60 ft. of magnetic coil and applying various frequencies it becomes possible to alter the energy output of the crystal.

Obviously I am only scratching the surface of what's possible. So, if anyone has any good ideas or suggestions related to all of this please feel free to PM me. 

Here are my preliminary schematics for my 'Electromagnetic Orgone Generator'.

(http://onfinite.com/libraries/1523955/863.jpg)


(http://onfinite.com/libraries/1523954/79a.jpg)


(http://onfinite.com/libraries/1523956/47d.jpg)

Hey kurty, how's the E.O.G. going? JW, where do you live?? Cuz i'd like to be a test subject.

I have been using a Double terminated quartz crystal with a magnetic coil wrapped around it. I use the Brainwave Generator program to generate various frequencies. The magnetic coil generates an electromagnetic field that encompasses the crystal and alters it's output field.

I have been using a 7 Hz setting while I meditate and practice energy body development. It definitely seems to have some kind of an effect but I'm still not 100% sure what exactly the effect is.

(http://onfinite.com/libraries/1536351/b85.jpg)

Total cool, I hope it will help induce OBE's. You have a great imagination.

I added an extra coil to the one in the previous picture to make the field more powerful:

(http://onfinite.com/libraries/1536349/6ff.jpg)

And instead of using the BWG program I am using an arbitrary function generator to generate square waves at different frequencies:

(http://onfinite.com/libraries/1536350/942.jpg)

My experiments thus far have yielded some interesting conclusions. I have found that the scalar energy produced by the mobius coils can sometimes be biologically disruptive when not close to quartz to regulate the field. The mobius coils are therefore used as a means of exciting quartz crystals into generating a different frequency than the natural output of the crystal itself. Scalar waves can also interfere with and/or damage electronics which has already happened a few times with the double coiled mobius in the above picture but this also depends on the amplitude as well. I will continue with my experiments and post updates in this forum as I uncover anything new and interesting. I was thinking of returning soon to get my masters degree in electrical engineering but for now I think focusing on energy and crystals is way more fun.

Here is the current set up I have for testing my experiments:

(http://onfinite.com/libraries/1537034/8f4.jpg)

Seems like a good idea kurt.

Though the images have been removed.

Yea... I'm afraid I was paid a visit by a couple of agents and they 'recommended' that I take down the schematics I had posted.

What kind of agents?

Oh.. you know, the friendly kind.  :|

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on November 17, 2009, 21:03:01
Yea... I'm afraid I was paid a visit by a couple of agents and they 'recommended' that I take down the schematics I had posted.

what schematics? are you serious?

Email'em to us then.  :)

Send'em to Stookie to post somewhere on the site.  hehe

That's probably not the best idea... But it does mean I'm on the right track!  :lol:

Here are a couple more pictures of some of my experiments, let me know what you guys think.

(http://onfinite.com/libraries/1539308/3e2.jpg)

(http://onfinite.com/libraries/1539231/a2a.jpg)

K so what exackly did they say? I kinda think your pulling our legs personally.

That last piece of kit looks lethal. We won't have to wear it will we?...  :-o

It would seem that this particular configuration has the ability to control time in localized areas of space. I have found that when I run the device next to my digital clock and measure time with a cell phone and computer in a point far away from the device, it is actually able to accelerate/decelerate time by about 4 minutes around the digital clock.

Wearing it is not a good idea because if you were to accelerate/decelerate time in a localized field and get your arm caught in the field, you're arm would age rather quickly and that would not be very fun.  :-o

Maybe that's where the expression "he's an old hand at this" comes from? lol
But seriously, I'm glad someone's working on this stuff, it's very interesting. Please keep us updated...

For my next experiment I will be trying to create a time field that will be large enough for a couple of these Craisins to fit in. I will then attempt to accelerate time in the field and try to make the Craisins lose there moisture and rot. Which I have found only takes about a day.

(http://onfinite.com/libraries/1540717/f4f.jpg)

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on November 26, 2009, 15:21:31
For my next experiment I will be trying to create a time field that will be large enough for a couple of these Craisins to fit in. I will then attempt to accelerate time in the field and try to make the Craisins lose there moisture and rot. Which I have found only takes about a day.

(http://onfinite.com/libraries/1540717/f4f.jpg)

Using time lapse photography would give you the best verifiable results.  :)

This project looks interesting!!! Post some videos of it on youtube you may get some fans and other people that might also do the similar stuff so you can work together

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on November 26, 2009, 13:46:45
It would seem that this particular configuration has the ability to control time in localized areas of space. I have found that when I run the device next to my digital clock and measure time with a cell phone and computer in a point far away from the device, it is actually able to accelerate/decelerate time by about 4 minutes around the digital clock.

Yeah right dude lol

isn't it funny how people who call themselves skeptics are usually asserting a set of irrational beliefs they never questioned?

Quote from: zareste on November 26, 2009, 22:02:40
isn't it funny how people who call themselves skeptics are usually asserting a set of irrational beliefs they never questioned?

What and your seriously going to sit there and defend a person claiming to be able to slow and speed up time by 4 minutes?

Time cant be sped up or slowed down at will. That is not a belief that is a fact.

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on November 17, 2009, 21:03:01
Yea... I'm afraid I was paid a visit by a couple of agents and they 'recommended' that I take down the schematics I had posted.

So who were these agents and what exackly did they say? did they warn/threaten you in a polite way? how did they even find out about your project? if you ask me its unlikely they'd find it on here.

Quote from: SkepticBoy on November 26, 2009, 22:42:57
What and your seriously going to sit there and defend a person claiming to be able to slow and speed up time by 4 minutes?

Time cant be sped up or slowed down at will. That is not a belief that is a fact.

While I don't agree or disagree with you... I will point out that it's not a fact.  :)
You're just assuming it can't be done because you've never seen it done.
Technically, we humans don't really know if 'time' (and I use that term really loosely) can be sped up or slowed down.

I think if it was as easy as KurtyKurt explains, there would be people manipulating time left right and centre.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the idea.
If all new ideas were dismissed because they seem unlikely under the current paradigm of scientific knowledge there would be very little progress.
A few years ago we would have said it was impossible for a particle to exist in two places at the same time. Now we know that can occur at a sub-atomic level. Science is being rewritten all the time.
Besides, I think that relativity allows (theoretically at least) for the manipulation of time through gravitational fields, and the subsequent distortion of space-time. Why shouldn't that be happening here on a small scale?

It's far from easy, in fact it may be one of the most difficult things to do in the universe. But what i have discovered is that by using our thoughts we can create these artificial 'time bubbles' around the scalar field of the crystal and store the pattern into and around the crystal. The crystals are therefore able to store, amplify, focus, transmit and transform this thought form of energy and re-transmit it in a localized area of space, around the field of the crystal.

The larger the crystal seems to be the more space this field can expand too. As of right now I will only be experimenting with small quartz crystals as to not cause harm to myself and other and especially not to the space/time continuum.

As for how agents found me I believe they have the ability to detect these type of spatial anomalies somehow and they usually go to investigate with helicopters or small planes.

I'll vouch for Kurt's message there. In fact crystals are used in microchips for that very reason - the ability to keep and transmit information with total precision.

With all these rumors that microchips are based on galactic technology, I have to wonder if humanity's supposed reverse-engineering of the chip gave us a dumbed-down version of a greater crystal-based technology. I mentioned earlier how the Atlanteans used crystals to enhance mind abilities - and at about the same time, they had constructed an entire 'mind' artificially that had the thinking power of multiple humans. (our computers, in contrast, have a very small fraction of one human's thinking power)

Perhaps we can regain the ability to do this.

What's with the "by using our thoughts" we attract/create/change/move whatever we want, mantra?

if this would to be, people, all humans would have what they want(and don't tell me that other humans thinking the opposite will null your desire). I remember, in one my classes, the teacher gave, as an assignment, write an essay about whatever you want. Most of the works were rather good. Until, a woman picks up her essay and starts shouting out the "law of attraction" or some stuff like that. Basically, she went into a rosy little tirade on how thoughts attract what we want, we become what we want through our thoughts. Now the funny thing is, she's a party girl. Meaning, she's been trying to attract a husband now that she's 30 years old and that dreadful baby rabies has hit, but no one touches her: too much usage.

She's been thinking/sending thoughts into the Universe for years now and nothing, no husband, no guy interested in a relationship with her.

Of course, she ended the essay with "but the book/law of attraction says that even if we don't attract what we want/need, we should be thankful because we still have our health."

Right. To me it seems snake oil. "Buy this and believe in that but if doesn't work(it won't) don't worry; it's the experience that counts."

What gives? Does the *Universe* reserve the right to send what the person wants when the *Universe* deems fit? Or do you have to exhaust your emotions as thoughts to get what you want? or is it that, we only attract what we need, not what we want? Or is it  that we're not in the necessary evolutionary stage - spirituality - to get what one needs? Or do we need a crystal?

Or is it because this "The Secret" and many other UFO's(metaphor)beliefs are there to sell?

Honestly, sometimes, when I read all of this "thoughts attract what we want" and related "subjects" I think of my uncle. He also believed and professed much of this new age, spirituality "concepts" and now he's in psychiatric ward for 10 years trying to treat his schizophrenia. Could there be a relation?

I'm not criticizing any of you. I just find it interesting.

An older woman I dated was also very much into this stuff and she ended up being diagnosed with bipolar disorder.

There's also a guy I know who won't keep his mouth shut with the "new world order" and that he can change water into oil with the power of his thoughts.

Bloody hell, where are we? Salem?


And yes, I'm a little angry.  I'd like to have a conversation with a woman without her having to go intro astrology or tarot cards or ghosts or Angels. I mean, only the women who fall inside the age group of 40 -60 speak of anything interesting at all. Like History, art, music and so forth.

For Christ's sake  :x.

wat?

we were talking about crystals

Sorry if my research is making you upset Leannain but I'm just interested in learning more about how space/time and energy and thought work. That's too bad about your uncle and girlfriend but I don't see a connection between studying new age, spirituality "concepts" and getting schizophrenia.

I admit that a lot of these concepts are difficult to understand for people that have strong religious and scientific beliefs.

I guess in the end only time will tell who's right.

A moment ago, I telepathically asked how one can use a crystal to improve mind abilities. I then saw a magnetic field (much like you'd do with iron filings), which only makes sense because crystals purify energy and magnetism transfers it. Kurt's experiments have shown this to some degree.

I then wondered how the magnet should interact with the crystal to create the right effect. The image I got was something like this

(http://zareste.net/web/dfh1g10.jpg)

four long magnets around a crystal. I don't have any materials to test this, but it would be an interesting experiment

I have been looking at different magnets but couldn't decide which shape or type to get. Take a look at this website  (https://unitednuclear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=70_71)and let me know if you think I should get the rod shaped ones in your picture?

Also, I recently purchased a couple of Lemurian Seed Quartz Crystals. (http://onfinite.com/libraries/1541389/296.jpg) Apparantly the Lemuria were an advanced ancient civilization similar to Atlantis. As the end of their time on Earth was coming to an end, the Lemurians programmed these crystals to teach their messages of oneness and healing - messages that would be revealed when the energy on Earth was ready to receive them. The Lemurians then planted (or "seeded") the Lemurian Crystals, encoded with their ancient knowledge and wisdom, to be found centuries later by us.

Nifty site. These right here look the best https://unitednuclear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=70_71&products_id=263 - even if my litle vision was false, the magnet formation looks ideal for ion flow

Admittedly, it seems intuitive to put bigger magnets on opposing ends of the crystal instead of long ones on the sides, but maybe the ion distribution would be less even that way. Hard to say.

I asked what the polarity of the magnets should be, but got no answer. I'm guessing they should face the same way for an uninterrupted flow

Thanks for the idea, I guess it can't hurt to build one and see what happens. Here is a rough sketch of the prototype  (http://onfinite.com/libraries/1541833/6d6.jpg)I have in mind. I have also read that including 24K gold flake or aluminum into the resin can produce interesting results.

Wow, I was thinking the crystal-magnet should work without extra electricity or coils (at least that was my intent when I mentally queued it), but it'll be interesting to go all Tim Taylor on it and vamp up the power

I think I will make two of them, one with the magnets and one without. I should have all the materials in about a week.

QuoteIt would seem that this particular configuration has the ability to control time in localized areas of space. I have found that when I run the device next to my digital clock and measure time with a cell phone and computer in a point far away from the device, it is actually able to accelerate/decelerate time by about 4 minutes around the digital clock.

lol....

Well, I would say that it would be responsible to exclude other possibilities before concluding the apparatus affected the speed of time, lol.

You seem to have a pretty good handle on electrical equipment and theory- one thing you probably know then, is that an electrial current will induce a magnetic field emmantating perpendicularly to the direction of the current's flow, and that conversely, a magnetic field will also induce a current in wires that are perpendicular to itself.

Now as you probably know, most digital clocks measure time by reading the number of times which their currents change direction. US alternating current changes directions at a rate of 60 times per second, and most European alternating currents work at 50 times (60 and 50Hz). That is why, if you take a US clock to Europe, it will run slow, and one from Europe brought to the US will run fast.

Your apparatus is no doubt creating some powerful magnetic fields, so it is quite likely that these fields are inducing currents in the clock, and this is what is altering the time read- the clock is responding to the change in current induced by the field.

It is no secret that magnetic fields affect electronic equipment in this way- you can erase your harddrive by rubbing it with a magnet, and having magnets near electronic speakers can cause them to misfunction.

So if I were to guess the results in the clock point to any conclusion, it would be that the apparatus is putting out powerful magnetic fields. You probably have equipment around to verify this guess. :wink:

The large coils and crystals have been next to the clock for the past few weeks but never effected the digital clock in any way. In any event I have already ordered a good mechanical stopwatch (http://www.paragonsports.com/images/large/6464-1000_steel_cl.jpg) so that I can verify that it is not just changing the flow of current in the digital clock. Although, what is strange is that the one day I decided to try my time experiment this happened. Here are more specific results of the experiment:

For this experiment I will be generating a field large enough for the Jwin Digital Clock. The field will be maintained with a square wave frequency of 360 Hz and 3.5 Volts.

After raising my energy body to its highest level of energy I will attempt to transfer my thoughts for creating an ‘energy time bubble’ to the scalar field generated by the coil and crystal. There the bubble will remain in place around the field until the frequency and voltage are turned off.

The ‘energy program’ created with my thoughts will look like this:

I will use my mind to create a time bubble. This bubble will exist in the same space as the scalar waves produced by the mobius coil and quartz. Once the bubble is stable I will decelerate the speed inside the bubble by 500% of the normal speed of time.  Therefore, the digital clock will be in or very near the field of the decelerated time.

After this was done, all three clocks (digital clock, cell phone and computer) where set synchronously to within a few seconds. The cell phone was placed in the kitchen and my other computer was about 15 ft away from the time field. I had started at about (12:00) noon and let it run for about 4 hours without giving it much thought. Then after examining the digital clock I had found that it read 3:56 while the other two clocks read 4:00 on the dot.

Yeah, but I would go a step further, and use a watch or clock that didn't have any electronic components to affect at all- an hourglass would be my ideal choice for such an experiment, since you have said the time dilation occurring in the field is quite large scale, and should consequently be easily noticed. You could be absolutely positive then that magnetic fields were not the thing generating the effect. You could still use the analog, but this way you could see the effect the aparatus has on numerous time measuring devices, so you can better explain what the nature of the effect is.

An hourglass is a great idea, I'll order one now. Mechanical / Analog stopwatches are very accurate and very expensive and they don't have any electronic components in them. If you want to learn more you can check out this website  (http://www.horlogerie-suisse.com/Theoriehorlogerie/fonction-anglais.html)that explains how they work. Who knew they were so complex.

lol… Thanks for the idea about the hourglass that was a good one. I just purchased this one (http://onfinite.com/libraries/1541439/758.jpg) on ebay, it is a 15 minute timer and is 3.25” x 5”. I also purchased this <a href="http://www.paragonsports.com/images/large/6464-1000_steel_cl.jpg ">Mechanical Stopwatch</a> on ebay as well. Ironically it too is a 15 minute timer... Coincidence?

So, I guess I will use the Digital clock, the Mechanical Stopwatch, a cell phone, a computer and an hourglass. I could use a sundial too but that might be unreliable :lol:. Since the instruments only measure time for 15 minutes, I will be focusing my intent on accelerating/decelerating the time field as strongly as humanly possible for those 15 minutes.

Sorry to disappoint anyone that was hoping to see progress of using the device to astral project. Who knew that I would make a time machine by accident...

guess we're getting into weird science, but I wonder if an hourglass would work - when gravity's pull is coming from an external source.
Pfft, I guess we'll find out. It'll be a fun week

I didn't consider that. The effect of the Neodymium Magnets and electromagnetic mobius coil might affect the hourglass. I feel that the most reliable device for measuring time in the gravitational/time field will be the mechanical stopwatch.

Lol, perhaps, but if you could prove the hourglass was failing in just that manner, it would be a serious case for anti-gravity effects, and thus its own sort of miracle.

Seriously though I doubt changing time and gravity is this simple I mean if it was, there would had been some serious breakthroughs in time travel development by now not to mention many people messing around with it.

Once the hourglass timer is used we will see the "time distortion" is nothing more than the electronics of the other watches that were used being disrupted by the electromagnetic field.

Any idea when your going to do this Kurty?

Quote from: SkepticBoy on November 29, 2009, 13:01:43
Seriously though I doubt changing time and gravity is this simple I mean if it was, there would had been some serious breakthroughs in time travel development by now not to mention many people messing around with it.

How do you know the government hasn't?
I mean,it "may" have been a distortion of 4 minutes in a localized field,nothing big.

If you think this is simple then I guess you must be pretty darn smart. I have studied some of the most advanced engineering mathematics and theory as well as computer algorithms that would give you a headache for a week. Those pale in comparison to what I am attempting to do here.

I believe that serious breakthroughs are happening all the time but usually in top secret laboratories. The trick here is to use your thoughts in a way that most 'scientists' don't really understand how.

I will begin the experiments in about a week once I receive all of the materials.

Cant wait for the results!!! :D :D But in my opinion its not time but it does affect the energy somehow and changes the vibrations probably

For the shape of this new device I have been looking around at different geometric shapes and have found the dodecahedron  (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Dodecahedron.gif) to be quite interesting. I would use a sheet of aluminum to trace the cut out (http://softwareconnexion.net/Level%20A/Nets/dodecahedron-model.bmp). Once assembled, the top will be left open to pour the resin and position the magnets and crystal. Here is a dodecahedron (http://www.korthalsaltes.com/photo/dodecahedron_un.jpg) constructed out of paper. As you can see the top flap will be left off and the resin can be poured to the top and allowed to harden. Once it is fully cured the duct tape holding the aluminum will be removed and we should have a clear dodecahedron with 4 powerful magnets and a crystal inside it.

I read that highly processed materials and metals such as aluminum corrupt energy behaviors (in fact aluminum has a modern-day track record for causing cancer). I'm still no expert, but that stuff might cause more harm than good

Come to think, I also heard that the shape of a crystal plays a minor role, but I never found out what shapes have what effects. In Atlantis, most of the focus was on the molecular pattern of the crystals (which I guess we have little control of)

I know this is off-topic,but do tell me more about atlantis.
Perhaps direct me to a thread or PM?

I thought of an idea for pouring the resin without causing the magnets to attract to each other during the process. I will pour a mold around 1/2" diameter metal rods inserted in the mold and then pour the resin. Once it hardens I will remove the rods and should have nice little slots for the magnets to go in. While the resin is being poured I will also position the crystal and coil in the resin as well. I am still working on the dimensions of everything so if anyone has any ideas I would be happy to hear them.

So when you doing the experiment with the hourglass pls.

Quote from: SkepticBoy on November 26, 2009, 22:42:57
What and your seriously going to sit there and defend a person claiming to be able to slow and speed up time by 4 minutes?

Time cant be sped up or slowed down at will. That is not a belief that is a fact.

I don't understand why you seem to be so interested since you KNOW that time can't be accelerated/decelerated at will.

Once we see the hourglass is not effected then it will be confirmed.

Quote from: SkepticBoy on December 01, 2009, 12:50:29
Once we see the hourglass is not effected then it will be confirmed.

That's the problem with trying to prove a negative- that it can't be confirmed that time.

I received the magnets  (http://onfinite.com/libraries/1542817/756.jpg)today so I went to go buy some fiberglass resin to practice pouring, so that I don't waste the good stuff (Silmar 41 Clear Polyester Resin (http://www.shopmaninc.com/Images/polys/s412.jpg) ). I also purchased a few different types of metals (http://onfinite.com/libraries/1542816/3cd.jpg). After researching orgonite, I have found that the density levels of the metals in the resin relate to the purpose of the device, as well as the external stimulus (ie. Magnetic fields, Scalar waves, heat, light, sound, etc.). Since this device will actively produce both Magnetic fields and Scalar waves it is a good idea to use very high density metals that are non-magnetic. The closer and more compact these metals are to the crystal the better. The metals I have chosen to use are gold, copper and possibly brass.

I decided to use a cardboard template (http://onfinite.com/libraries/1542928/65e.jpg) to hold the magnets and crystal in place. The resin will then be poured about half way up the magnet and allowed to harden. The templates will then be removed and the rest of the resin will be poured. I am in the process of coming up with the 'energy program'.

Here's an update on my astral projection device. When I started this experiment it was my attempt at using technology to aid in astral projection. I believe this is possible. These experiments are my attempt to better understand Scalar Waves and Torsion Fields and the effects they have with matter, consciousness and energy, as well as space and time.

(http://onfinite.com/libraries/1545594/bb8.jpg)

(http://onfinite.com/libraries/1545746/f10.jpg)

(http://onfinite.com/libraries/1545744/036.jpg)

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I don't know if bumping this is breaking any rules,but what happened here?did you move these results to a new thread?

I am afraid it sounds a bit too technical for me; and I wonder if I will be able to do it. But aren't these artificial techniques of astral projection induction a bit scary? I mean, don't they have certain disadvantages? In other words, are they safe?

It is pretty technical but you don't need to understand how it works to use it!

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/98/dsc03248z.jpg)

(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1834/dsc03257x.jpg)

I have been using a separate bed / pillow / chair with the 'Astral Projection Device' (the thing on the left) and have been having great results. I have designed a series of thought based energy programs that are stored into the crystal sphere. I have found that when a particular feeling / emotion is felt, that same feeling can be stored in the crystal and be called upon at any time. For example the warm, heavy, lethargic feeling that one feels when you enter into the trance state can be stored into the crystal. All i do is say 'trance on' and I immediately enter trance. If people are interested I will post the Astral Projection Subroutine that I designed but it is rather lengthy.

Many people don't like the idea of using technology or drugs to help them astral project or have out of body experiences. I would just like to say that using technology to astral project is not the same as using a drug. Especially if you are the one the develops your own personal assistive technology to help with the OBE process. I believe that the body is an extension of your consciousness and when we astral project / OBE / dream we are moving our consciousness through it. Moving your consciousness through a machine is similar. The machine is also an extension. It can be tunned to a vibration you recognize until finally you begin to recognize any frequency. The machine is used to widen your exploration abilities beyond the bodies normal sense frequencies.

You automatically enter trance?So you can enter trance on command?
Wow,you must be able to AP pretty much whenever you want!

I would love to build such a device,but i have no space and my family would call me a loon.

Entering trance on command is a little easier than astral projecting on command.

Although, I was able to project yesterday using the astral projection subroutine I designed: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/projection_to_rtz_verified-t30759.0.html

My goal is to somehow store energy into the crystal / generator and pipe it into my energy body, so that I can not only astral project on command but stay out of body for extended periods as well.

The calcite crystal sphere on the left weighs 10 lbs and can generate incredible amounts of energy. The black / white coil around the iron core is set at 25 MHz. The Arduino microcontroller (on the cage) has been programmed to incrementally increase frequency from 1 Hz to 1 MHz. It is attached to the coil around the bismuth and can be felt with the third eye / pineal when it vibrates at its peak resonant frequency.

While sitting as close to the device as possible I enter trance meditation and wait until the the bismuth / coil begins to resonate. I have been asking the help of my spiritual guides / subconscious to assist me with this as well. I now have it set at 160 Khz and as soon as I enter the room my entire head starts to vibrate!

(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8113/dsc03316jz.jpg)

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I added an LCD to the Arduino so that you can read the frequency output on the LCD. The LCD also uses a keypad which allows the user to increase / decrease the frequency manually. 

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For those that are interested I have posted a paper on the physics behind this assistive technology and it's effects on the energy body and probable applications for astral projection and energy body development.

 :-o all i gotta say is wow kurt, lol. you really know what ur doing..
keep it up!

If you're interested in any of this be sure to check out my website:

http://mindbasedtechnology.com/ (http://mindbasedtechnology.com/)

My research into nonlinear optics has introduced me to the importance of both the phi ratio (φ) or the Golden Ratio, as well as the pi/2 ratio.

In mathematics and the arts, two quantities are in the golden ratio if the ratio of the sum of the quantities to the larger quantity is equal to (=) the ratio of the larger quantity to the smaller one. The golden ratio is an irrational mathematical constant, approximately 1.6180339887. Other names frequently used for the golden ratio are the golden section (Latin: sectio aurea) and golden mean. Other terms encountered include extreme and mean ratio, medial section, divine proportion, divine section (Latin: sectio divina), golden proportion, golden cut, golden number, and mean of Phidias. The golden ratio is often denoted by the Greek letter phi, usually lower case (φ).

(http://pass.maths.org.uk/issue3/fibonacci/box.gif)

Examples of the golden ratio (φ):

(http://www.redicecreations.com/winterwonderland/sg.jpg)

(http://www.abc.net.au/science/photos/mathsinnature/img/13.jpg)

In relation to the human energy body, when combining two frequency vibrations in these ratios very strong vibratory effects are produced and felt in all seven primary energy centers (especially the third eye). In his book, Principles of Nonlinear Optics, Y.R. Shen describes how three frequencies are used to create a pressure layer, 3 pi/2 frequencies, with two phi ratios from each side. They will overlap to one layer at the center.

[ Pi / 2 ] Multiple Layered Resonance (http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9067/pi5v.jpg)

The Norway spiral had two beams. One to the outer ring [light color] and one down the center of it [blue high frequency]. There was a ratio set up in the wave patterns such that at fixed distance a phi vortex was opened, and later it was shut down by reversing it. The rings were never stabilized at pi/2 or the form would have stabilized into circles.

(http://blog.taragana.com/science/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/norway-spiral.jpg)

More examples of the golden ratio (Phi):

It's a dynamic between spin and stillness , the feedback structure that makes information continuously flow through our universe.

(http://ddrive.cs.dal.ca:9999/images/content/phi_collage.jpg)

(http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0805/NaturalSpirals.jpg)

Here I am combining two frequency vibrations in these ratios to produce the spatial overlap at the center.

(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/3803/dsc03335x.jpg)

The base of the device is composed of two iron [Ferrite] deflection yokes that were taken from CRT monitors. Iron is the most abundant metal on earth, and is believed to be the tenth most abundant element in the universe. The nucleus of iron has the highest binding energy per nucleon, so it is the heaviest element that is produced exothermically through fusion and the lightest through fission. When a star that has sufficient mass to produce iron does so, it can no longer produce energy in its core and a supernova will ensue.

Due to the high magnetic resonance (NMR) of Iron, high frequencies must be used (i.e. 7 - 20 MHz). When the iron atoms become electromagnetically charged the electron shells become magnetic and a strong field is created and sensed by the energy body. This has the effect of greatly speeding up the meditative process. I have been having using 12 MHz with the black/white coil around the iron core.

(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/magnet-electron-shell.gif)

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(http://theserpent.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/calendrier-maya-2004-cropcircle.jpg)

The Mayen calender and the device I am working on seem to look pretty similar.  :-D

2012, 12 crystals, 12 neodymium magnets, 12 twists in the bismuth scalar coils, 12 MHz, etc...

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Magnetism and Bismuth:

A neodymium magnet is a permanent magnet made from an alloy of neodymium, iron, and boron to form the Nd2Fe14B tetragonal crystalline structure. This material is currently the strongest type of permanent magnet.

(http://www.bhmaindustrialstore.co.uk/images/medium/10NeodymiumMagnetDiscs_MED.png)

The most diamagneitc material on earth [Bismuth] is used to create a magnetic field in opposition of an externally applied magnetic field. Bismuth is the heaviest form of crystal on earth. The largest atom that is atomically stable and it can vibrate just the same as a quartz crystal. After working with the weave wind (scalar) coils, I have learned learn how to do this without them. Hold a Bismuth slug in a hand, and vibrate it up as though it were a crystal. A field will rise out of it and become coherent very fast.

The heavy elements can reach levity faster then the light ones supposedly, due to increased energy in each atom. Within the space of a Bismuth atom there if far greater light and vibration present, then in a hydrogen atom.

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/386/dsc03805f.jpg)

Molecular structure of Bismuth:

(http://www.webelements.com/_media/elements/crystal_structure_image/Bi-sf.jpg)

This week I studied more on the golden section and experimented with various golden section frequencies.

(http://www.picares.com/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/pipih-ratio2.gif)

Frequencies:

12 * 12 = 144 Hz [Square Wave (+5V) Bismuth Coil]

144 Hz * 1.618 = 233 Hz [Square Wave (+5V) Crystal Sphere Coil]

12 MHz [Sine Wave (+3.5V) Black/white Iron Coil]

Using 144 Hz applied to the lower end of the iron with the bismuth and 233 Hz applied to the upper end (crystal), a very powerful energetic outflow was created. Touching the base of the device with the hands created a strong tingling sensation and after about 30 seconds my hand began to burn. Palming the device at various points, I could feel a cool brieze around the device, as if a fan was on.

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After spending the week experimenting with the pi/2 ratio I have found it to be much more soothing than the phi ratios. While experimenting with Phi I have gone several nights without dreaming as well as getting tired frequently. The phi vortex seems to suck in all energy to the center allowing you to enter very deep states of trance relatively easily.

Although, I have only been experimenting with pi/2 for a couple of days, it definitely seems to be much nicer!  :-)

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6452/dsc03798bv.jpg)

The two bismuth scalar coils are separated by a (pi/2) ratio, while the iron core is vibrating at 12 MHz.

Here is an image of the oscilloscope for the two microcontrollers:

(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/2110/dsc03787ej.jpg)

Freq 1 -  12 MHz [Iron]

Freq 2 -  59.52 Hz

Freq 3 -  37.88 Hz

pi / 2 = 1.57079

37.88 Hz * 1.57079  = 59.50 Hz

(low frequency square waves seem to work best with the bismuth/scalar coils)

After spending a couple weeks with each of the two frequency vibrations ( phi vs. pi/2 ) I am come the following conclusions:

Pi / 2 - Seems to be where stable boundaries form and Orientation is possible,
synchronization happens on pi / 2 ratio levels, these mark the density levels
or the target locations.

Phi - Generates uncontrolled dissorientation, as it dislodges from a
boundary and either accelerates or decelerates the conscious clock rate.
It opens one to astral projection / remote viewing into infinity.

What's that big stainless steel circle for!  :-D

(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1947/dsc04033i.jpg)

(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2137/dsc04045c.jpg)

(http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb/20071015/Bump-Sign-487785.jpg)

Just read through ALL these posts.

I'm not literate in computer/technical talk, but just to get the gist..

You're making a machine that makes it possible for people like me who have not been able to project.. to project?

If such a machine is possible, you'd make millions and make headlines.

Who WOULDN'T want a gadget like that?

What I'd like to know is, assuming this device works, what are you going to do with it? Is this just for your own use, or are you planning to make it available to the masses? You may have to go underground of course, to avoid those black-ops "pursuaders".....

That crop circle is beautiful!  :-D

Quote from: camci on February 01, 2010, 03:15:43
You're making a machine that makes it possible for people like me who have not been able to project.. to project?

If such a machine is possible, you'd make millions and make headlines.

Who WOULDN'T want a gadget like that?

Yes indeed, absolutely every person that sits down in the chair will be able to astral project. It may take a little bit of time to practice before you can get used to the 'feeling' and conquer your fears. But it greatly speeds up the process.

I'm not very interested in making headlines or millions of dollars. If I do make millions I wall probably spend it all on the devlopment of more of this kind of technology.

Quote from: nickspry on February 01, 2010, 04:31:29
What I'd like to know is, assuming this device works, what are you going to do with it? Is this just for your own use, or are you planning to make it available to the masses? You may have to go underground of course, to avoid those black-ops "pursuaders".....

Well, I don't think that the government would like it if I started selling it at Walmart. For now I'm afraid it's just for personal use.

Hi Kurt
this is fascinating. I found it while searching for 'gold' and 'astral projection' . The reason is I read that A. Crowley used a gold coin ni his mouth to help induce astral projection.  My main question is (very impt to me thanks :) is gold necessary for this?  Would other coins work as well? Please let me know why this would or wouldn't work and if gold is necessary.  I tried it with a pound coin which is mostly copper and it seemed to cause more energy or vibration but I'd like to know if it was a placebo.  Please PM me or email thanks!
Chris

Gold? I don't even use gold in this device. I sure wish I had enough money to chew on gold coins though!  :lol:

I don't think gold would work well in this device as a base component or any component for that matter. Iron is much better for inducing deep meditative states due to the high nuclear magnetic resonance. Bismuth would also be much better to use than gold too.

I've been to a shop to look for a crystal sphere like yours Kurt, but they had only much smaller ones and they cost already 83,- Euro, which is 113,- dollars. Then the larger ones must cost hundreds of dollars?   :-(

Thanks for the tip.  So say I get a bismuth sample, in a coin or a lump.  Besides the tongue as a sensitive point what else can one do with said sample to aid astral projection? Does holding it in the palm or under a pillow help? like with crystals?
thanks again. good luck with your device and keep us all posted.its fascinating.

Quote from: Timandra on February 28, 2010, 07:18:50
I've been to a shop to look for a crystal sphere like yours Kurt, but they had only much smaller ones and they cost already 83,- Euro, which is 113,- dollars. Then the larger ones must cost hundreds of dollars?   :-(

They certainly don't grow on trees that's for sure.  :-D

Quote from: sahgwa on February 28, 2010, 11:43:59
Thanks for the tip.  So say I get a bismuth sample, in a coin or a lump.  Besides the tongue as a sensitive point what else can one do with said sample to aid astral projection? Does holding it in the palm or under a pillow help? like with crystals?
thanks again. good luck with your device and keep us all posted.its fascinating.

Bismuth is a crystal!

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/perspiration/BismuthCrystal.jpg)

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Making a star-gate:
I'm not sure how much you know about star gates, so I'll just splurge everything I know. The tough part of a star-gate is you would need a lot of energy to go any long distances like planet-to-planet (more distance needs more energy). It needs perhaps more energy than several energy plants could provide. And it's extremely risky. From what I've seen, the biggest scientific disasters in this galaxy have been caused by star-gates.  I've even seen flashbacks into the Milky Way's past and watched a star-gate experiment collapse three populated star systems into black holes, just like that.

Considering this, I imagine you'd attract a lot of (unwanted) attention if you start toying with hyper-space.

But I've got a few small tips. A star-gate is little more than magnetism on an extreme level. In the same fashion that a star bends space with gravity, a star-gate bends space in a tunnel, using extremely high-powered magnets. This shortens distances so you can travel - say - 50 miles by crossing 20 feet in the tunnel. Add more power and you can travel 100 miles by crossing 20 feet in the tunnel. A high-powered star-gate is setup so people can cross between star systems in only a few minutes, without breaking any known laws of physics. (you're not moving faster than light, just moving a warped distance)

The tough part is making a gate stable enough to transfer physical matter across distances without anything being destroyed or lost in sub-space. There are actually weapons based on failed hyperspace technology that hit an enemy and teleport them to a random part of the universe

The actual construction is something like a set of high-powered magnets setup in a circle, and there has to be two gates already setup for it to work. I don't know much beyond that

regardless of bismuth being a crystal, you have lumps of it , and there are also coins made of bismuth for sale on ebay, hence my query above.  if you could answer it thatd be great.
thanks!

I've seen all the Stargate shows on TV and if it's anything like that in real life, I don't think I'll be building one anytime soon.

I astral projected to a UFO a while back and spoke with the captain of the ship, he told me that they use the center of the sun to travel to other star systems as well as through time and the center of galaxies are used to travel to other galaxies. Before that I had 'never' heard of anything like that before.

Quote from: sahgwa on February 28, 2010, 17:35:09
regardless of bismuth being a crystal, you have lumps of it , and there are also coins made of bismuth for sale on ebay, hence my query above.  if you could answer it thatd be great.
thanks!

I wouldn't recommend using bismuth / gold / or anything to help you AP. There is no magic metal you can hold in your hand to have an astral projection.

I think im beginning to fall in love with you!  :-D lol just kidding  :lol:

Who me?  :-P

no not to you but to kurt!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

So, you find all of this astral projection technology stuff fascinating?  :-D

The technology is kinda like what they use in the movie Avatar except that instead of putting your energy body into a physical body, we just project it into the astral plane. Then you can meet blue elves and ride dragons or do whatever you want.  :-D

is your invention finished already cause you said you have tried it already. I really would like to purchase one!  :lol: just please don't let it cost a million dollar  :-D  :lol:

not just the technology is fascinating but also the man who made that technology!  :-D lol  :-D   :-D  :-D I guess you'll be the next Albert Einstein! and I'll be your stalker fan in the astral!!  :lol:   :-D

I'm afraid it's not for sale but yes it is finished. I am able to consistantly project to the astral plane / 4th density within about 15-20 minutes. I can then stay out of body for about 30 minutes while drawing on the energy from the device.

Although, after my little incident with the grays I have been taking it easy on my energy body training and now have been training in martial arts several hours a day for the past couple weeks. Now I feel good and I'm ready to get back out there!

aw! whats the use of sharing it if you're not going to let other experience it.

Two of my friends from the University came to try it out on Friday and they were amazed. Both of them are very open minded and love to talk about aliens and stuff like that. I explained to them how the device is similar to the Avatar movie device and they agreed to try it out.

My friend sat in the chair, I powered up the device and immediately his body became very HOT (that's the energy building up and filling your energy centers). He said his arms and legs fell asleep and then his heart started beating fast (vibrations). Then he got scared and told me to turn it off. :lol:

About the alien thing Kurt. any new news about them?

No, like I said I have been staying in this dimension for the past week.  :-D

about aliens! i would like to ask you something about their nature:

do they sleep? eat? have sexual intercourse? drink? do they have gender?

Cause if they have gender I would like to experience sex with a hunky stud grey!  :-D  :-D

Aliens come from many different planets and dimensions. Some of them are made of high density light energy and don't require food or sleep. And some of them live on planets similar to earth and need food, water, sun, sleep, etc.

The 5th density gray (Mr. Gray) who is not from the race of grays that played there little trick on me, explained to me that the closer your planet is to the center of the galaxy, the less 'dense' your physical / energy body is. The Plaedians for example are 7th density light body beings and have their home world near the center of this galaxy.

What about you Kurt which planet did you came from?  :-D

I'm from a galaxy far far away.  :-D

so thats why in 2012 we will shed our physical body right? because our planet is going closer to the center ?

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on March 01, 2010, 04:51:01
Aliens come from many different planets and dimensions. Some of them are made of high density light energy and don't require food or sleep. And some of them live on planets similar to earth and need food, water, sun, sleep, etc.

The 5th density gray (Mr. Gray) who is not from the race of grays that played there little trick on me, explained to me that the closer your planet is to the center of the galaxy, the less 'dense' your physical / energy body is. The Plaedians for example are 7th density light body beings and have their home world near the center of this galaxy.

you didn't answer me if they have gender and if they have sexual intercourse. im referring to those ET's that live on a planet like planet earth

Not so much 'shed' our physical body but it will 'transform' into a higher form of matter / energy.

Sure, all human aliens have gender.

http://www.crystalinks.com/nordics.html

then it will be easier for us to astral travel when that time comes!  :-D

What most people on this forum don't seem to realize is that the 'Astral Realm' is only one small section of the Universe. Mr. Gray told me that this is a place for children and usually less evolved individuals to 'have fun' and relax. Not saying that anyone here is 'less evolved' but he means that very smart races out there in the Universe are found on levels of consciousness far above the Astral Plane.

The dimensions are sectioned off into 'density levels' as I like to call them, and in order for an individual to reach a higher density level they must spend a lot of time training their energy body / mind. Sometimes it takes thousands of years of training to reach the highest levels.

but since we will transform into a higher form of matter then our psychic abilities will be developed and OBE will be easier to achieve. Well that's how i understand it, if that makes sense :-D

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on February 28, 2010, 17:57:39I've seen all the Stargate shows on TV and if it's anything like that in real life, I don't think I'll be building one anytime soon.

The funny thing is, the stargates in those shows are remarkably similar to the real thing. I kinda wonder where the creators got their ideas from. The hyperspace concepts in sci-fi shows like Star Trek are close to the real thing too, at least in terms of physics.

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on February 28, 2010, 17:57:39I astral projected to a UFO a while back and spoke with the captain of the ship, he told me that they use the center of the sun to travel to other star systems as well as through time and the center of galaxies are used to travel to other galaxies. Before that I had 'never' heard of anything like that before.

I can confirm that. I've heard some stories about stars being used as gates.

I'm pretty sure a star can take objects to a different frequency, where the star becomes visible as a black hole. Stars actually cycle energy from one frequency and expel it on another, like all matter, instead of burning a finite amount of fuel as our astronomers tend to believe.

Admittedly, I'm not sure how this could be used to travel to another star system. (only to other frequencies) I hear (and partly speculate) that the more modern star crafts can expel an electromagnetic pulse that gives them a quick wormhole. Perhaps they can send a pulse into a star and amplify the effect of the wormhole. It might explain why sunspots appear

I (and I am sure the majority of people on this forum and in the world interested in AP) would love for you to record some of your adventures.  Especially with other beings and aliens. You should let me know where I can read some of your happenings with this device, it is fascinating!
Eagerly waiting
Chris

Quote from: zareste on March 01, 2010, 09:44:09
The funny thing is, the stargates in those shows are remarkably similar to the real thing. I kinda wonder where the creators got their ideas from. The hyperspace concepts in sci-fi shows like Star Trek are close to the real thing too, at least in terms of physics.
I can confirm that. I've heard some stories about stars being used as gates.

Good thing I watched all the shows then. I remember the episode where the ancient built a little stargate in Carter's basement to get back to his planet. He ordered all the supplies online and built it in a couple of days...

I was told that the first step is to master interdimensional travel before working on space travel (stargates). Mostly because there is a lot less that can go wrong with your physical body and also you don't have to worry about solar systems blowing up.  :-D Even with interdimensional travel though there can be unforeseen side affects (i.e. time dilation, levitation, extreme heat).

Then of course there is time travel, which might be the most dangerous and certainly the most difficult to understand. I think I'll save the best for last!  :-D

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on March 01, 2010, 05:24:32
... they must spend a lot of time training their energy body / mind. Sometimes it takes thousands of years of training to reach the highest levels.

It's about mental focus, strength of mind, awareness, and honest self-awareness leading to humility. Add to that our ability to empathize and ultimately love. All of our experiences provide environments for growth in these. As we mature, we move up... it's all a big school or if you prefer a big exercise gym.

I plan on exercising in the highest dimensional levels of the Universe.  :lol:

For the past couple of months I have been exploring the level known as the 4th density plane. It exists at a level slightly above that of the Astral Plane. After my experience tonight I now know that I am ready to venture out into the 5th density level. This plane is related to your throat chakra and you must be able to generate large amounts of energy from this point in your energy body.

Tonight I was doing an experiment and entered into the 5th for a couple of minutes. There were 12 entities standing in a line near me. They told me that in this level we are all connected as one. I asked them what level, but I immediately knew it was the 5th. They were communicating telepathically. I could feel the blue energy filling my throat and it became hard to breath. It then filled my head and my heard started to hurt. Then all 6 of my other chakras became filled with blue energy and a big blue sphere enveloped my energy body.

In the background I could also see 3 or 4 grays standing below watching, as they could not reach this level.  :-D

(http://energyfanatics.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/throat_chakra.jpg)

What exactly is that dude sitting on!?   :-o

Just posting here so this thread show up on "Show new replies to your posts" :) I like future technology and AP so this is just the topic for me^^

Quote from: Xanth on March 02, 2010, 09:59:01
What exactly is that dude sitting on!?   :-o

You have to be sitting on a gold cat in order to reach the 5th density.  :lol:

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on March 02, 2010, 16:24:30
You have to be sitting on a gold cat in order to reach the 5th density.  :lol:

Hmmm... real gold or painted gold?  >_>  :D

Added a couple more goodies to my meditation area and now things are really moving along.

The energy generated by all this is really incredible.

(http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/904/dsc04110z.jpg)

(http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/4656/dsc04102x.jpg)

Yesterdays adventure took me to the edge of the 4th density (near the 5th), where a large blue sphere took up my entire area (maybe 20 - 30 ft). All I could see was black and the brightest blue sphere I have ever seen. I guess I haven't seen many blue spheres in my day but the colors where unbelieveble. I stood there in awe for about two minutes and then the sphere started moving away and I wasn't able to stay with it...  :-( I then returned to my body and said 'WOW'  :-o about 5 times because it was amazing!

I hope you don't sit on that poor apparatus that's currently in your chair!  :)

I dunno, you think it does anything?  :-D

You should post more on your blog about your adventures. I was very entertained.  Do you have any tips for people trying to project who have only had slight success? Is it bad to over try or over think about this? I found that I was able to get half out tactilely, and then fully out where it felt like i was standing in front of my body based on sense but i was blind. I could feel my new body standing there and felt as if i was there standing but i was really lying down listening to Monroe's astral journeys wave CDs. But i couldn't see anything:( i wonder if my third eye is needing work or why it was just black.
and since then i have tried using the same methods with relaxation and the tactile visualisation or feeling myself into a new position but it isn't working. any tips anyone? I find i can get fully relaxed, and then stop feeling my body, but i have a hard time getting the vibrations to start, and if htey do start, having a hard time making them stay or fill more than just a small part like my hands and arms. Then thats it after an hour just relaxation, numbness and vibration but i cant get out or past that. Do i need to go deeper into relaxation somehow? Usually if i try to relax past that i just fall asleep. hmm

and have you had any new experiences with your machine?

Quote from: sahgwa on March 10, 2010, 13:21:28
and have you had any new experiences with your machine?

I have been using the device daily with my meditations to raise my energy. I've also been spending a lot of time with my group working on group levitation and telekinesis. We have had several higher dimensional beings watching in on our experiments.

Share your technology with others, at the moment it just looks and sounds fancy. I've studied quite a lot of your photographs and writings.

I'd be very appreciative, I would like to see for myself if this has any effect. I also have things to share :)

peace, Darren

Share it how?

An old friend from the University came over to my house a few days ago. The next day he was throwing up and had the worst headache / stomachaches of his life... This technology is not for everyone, especially those with no experience in energy body development. 

Share by showing what on earth you've got setup there. Are you just running an electric current and ''amplifing'' it with crystals and what not.

I just think you could share with us your finding, what equipment and how your using it. I've seen your calculaions and algebra, share and explain my friend.

I'm sure you wouldn't get me throwing up and what not, I'm sure i'd be alright  :wink:

Well of course those without prior body energy development are prone to dis-ease, for they haven't cleared their body of negative energies, that causes dis-ease.

But yes, I agree, where are your official or up-to-date plans for your machine?

AND WHERE DO YOU LIVE? I live in oregon and wish to see this contraption, even if I have to awkwardly converge with someone.

Here is my most up to date research on the device: http://mindbasedtechnology.com/APdevice.html

I would be happy to ask any specific questions anyone has.

Here is a smaller version of the larger Astral Projection Device.

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/121/dsc04350j.jpg)

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/6910/dsc04346w.jpg)

It uses the same magnetic / diamagnetic principles to extend the field of crystals. It's portable so you can run around with it and zap people with energy.  :-D

Is there any way to get diagrams of that there portable AP device?
or schematics?
i would like to build one myself to help me project.

These devices are very dangerous and can draw the attention of many negative lower astral entities, as well as beings such as the grays. I had trained in energy body development for about 3 years before building these devices and I still wasn't ready for what awaited me. Also, I don't want to be responsible when other people build such devices and end up getting attacked by entities and they and they're families get sick or worse.

For what its worth I too have been doing 'energy body training' via qi gong, meditation, and ceremonial magic.  i think i can take care of myself. if you dont want to share that's fine but i think its kind of patronising. I would love to know that we as a human race were sharing our advances instead of hoarding them.

No offense, but I thought I could take care of myself too.

Why do you think many of the other advanced races in our galaxy don't come to planets like earth and hand over their advanced technology for free? Why don't they just stop over and talk with the scientists and explain the diagrams and schematics and explain how everything works?

Kurt keep up the great work! This is all too fascinating.

Purely hypothetical, but if Kurt's inventions caught the attention of corrupted governmental powers or any sort of being(s) with evil intentions, could that cause trouble for us?

The devices need an operator to use them properly. By themselves the devices are pretty much worthless and will just sit there and put out electrogravitic fields. I'm hoping that my research and experimentation will catch the attention of a 'non corrupted' private organization that seeks to better mankind through the use of this technology.

But what if you were forced to make and use your inventions on evil hands?  :lol:

The grays and others have tried on several occasions to make me do things that I had no intention of  doing. "brain washing" as it has come to be called by scientists, but should be more appropriately called 'mind washing'. The entity takes over every piece of your brain and mind and controls who you are. Beings of this strength often come from other worlds and from higher levels 'densities' as I like to call it.

They think they can bully us around like we are worthless animals. Monkeys in a cage that do tricks for bananas. I have spoken to captains of gray vessels that think they are gods. Superior to humans in every way. If you want to live the rest of you days terrified by gray aliens with big heads and big black eyes, then be my guest, but I choose to fight.

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on March 20, 2010, 02:03:39I have spoken to captains of gray vessels that think they are gods.

The funny thing is they think that way because some humans regard them as such. 'Egging them on' as someone put it. Everyone is susceptible to delusional godhood if it's handed to them.

It's probably also over-compensation resulting from a history of oppression. Angels probably enjoy killing them to promote the angels' sense of godhood, so now a bunch of greys look for an opportunity to become someone else's oppressive gods

Unrelated note - someone is really really dedicated to giving me negative karma. There's that over-compensating thing again.

Like i've said before in my posts, it's not very safe to have dealings with beings that believe that they are gods. Gods have the ability to give life and take life away and I can assure you the grays have this ability.

Quote from: zareste on March 20, 2010, 07:05:01
Unrelated note - someone is really really dedicated to giving me negative karma. There's that over-compensating thing again.

I guess some people just don't like us. I think you almost have as much karma as SkepticBoy  :lol:

the word god literally means good

God and bad
Good and evil

the grays cant be god if they are not consistently good for people
but they could be a king. how ever again the definition of king is somebody that serves all the people not somebody who
uses other peoples energy system because they don't have one of there own

:NoY:

as an aside i dont think classifying a whole race or species of beings as good or evil is a good idea. i mean think realistically and logically, when have you found ANY group of sentient beings that were all of one thing? Never.  just like there are good and bad humans, good and bad dogs, and good and bad bacteria, there are good and bad 'grays' as you say. i dont think its fair or accurate to say they are all evil and all think they are gods.
im sure there are good ones and bad, but overall they wouldnt be here behind the scenes if they werent interested in helping us.
the so called 'typical abduction' scenario is far from typical and if you research most peoples experiences are far nicer or neutral.
furthermore they realise the only way we grow as beings and humans is to be pushed and helped to evolve through trials of a life changing calibre. if they just came and were nice and gave everything we would never change or grow. they are prodding us out of our paradigm which is obviously painful but belies good intentions as it leaves experiencers with more spritiual knowledge, self esteem, and love for their fellow man and other life. humans have always resisted evolving as it is painful to better yourself, but that doesnt mean the grays are evil.

i say some have selfish reasons and are bad apples and the majority are here to help just like anyone else. just like in armies around the world you have bad apples who delight in torture and rape and the majority of good soldiers who have integrity.
would a so called evil race really sit around a helpless planet like earth for over a century without enslaving us or destroying us? i dont think so.

furthermore the majority of horror stories about aliens and gray abduction come from government dis information sources. intelligent people know that it is the governments best interest to create fear of aliens due to the power and control it gives the government.

it in essence gives them an excuse for existing after disclosure. furthermore it hides the fact that they know little if nothing more than the average person about why They are here. they need the illusion of control just as much as the actual control.

where would our institutions be if we all became self aware spiritually evolved beings that could travel the cosmos in our astral bodies and meeting other intelligences on our own without fear? obsolete obviously.

Greys arnt people in the same way we are they have a group mind
they litrully take it in turns to think a sentance

so if one is evil they all are because they are one mind

:NoY:

Quote from: NoY on March 20, 2010, 14:07:15
Greys arnt people in the same way we are they have a group mind
they litrully take it in turns to think a sentance
so if one is evil they all are because they are one mind

This is true. They act as one collective consciousness. If you find them, this mean that all of them will be either all good or all bad. And as far as I can tell all of the ones that are around earth right now are not very pleasant. And by 'not very pleasant' I mean they have no problem abducting you, performing tests on you, impregnating you and taking the baby from your womb, and many other worse things.

i think its amazing that people that claim to be so energetically or spiritually evolved do not realise the hypocrisy in labelling a whole race evil based on information which they cant prove which probably is manufactured by their subconscious fears.
for example it is very commonly reported and seen after study of visitor encounters that these experiences are moulded by our expectations.
if you cant get over your subconscious fear of them and the unknown they will playfully pretend to be evil or your perception will make it so even though they could be as nice as your best firend if you just opened up your perception and got rid of your fear and expectation.
reality and especially the so called greys or visitors seem to fit themselves to our expectations not the other way around.
no one really can say 100% this is so any more than you can say they are all a hive mind. but it makes more sense than some zealous xenophobic labelling based on sci fi propositions.

Quote"Unrelated note - someone is really really dedicated to giving me negative karma. There's that over-compensating thing again."

lol.... people are silly sometimes....

and wow... Kurt and I had the same number of posts around Christmas, and now he has nearly as many as Stookie, lol.

QuoteWhy do you think many of the other advanced races in our galaxy don't come to planets like earth and hand over their advanced technology for free? Why don't they just stop over and talk with the scientists and explain the diagrams and schematics and explain how everything works?

What would really be the purpose in doing that? Would it really help us? Our problems aren't technological, they are psychological, and sociological. We have enough resources and ingenuity that we can provide a pretty good life for all of the world's citizens right this second, without polluting one bit. It is our flaws as a race that prevent us from proceeding, not any material lack.

To be honest, even if we were gifted technology like that, how long would it be before we found some way to weaponize it?

We are not ready for more advanced technology then we have, and it wouldn't help us one bit.

Quote from: sahgwa on March 23, 2010, 11:56:55
i think its amazing that people that claim to be so energetically or spiritually evolved do not realise the hypocrisy in labelling a whole race evil based on information which they cant prove which probably is manufactured by their subconscious fears.
for example it is very commonly reported and seen after study of visitor encounters that these experiences are moulded by our expectations.
if you cant get over your subconscious fear of them and the unknown they will playfully pretend to be evil or your perception will make it so even though they could be as nice as your best firend if you just opened up your perception and got rid of your fear and expectation.
reality and especially the so called greys or visitors seem to fit themselves to our expectations not the other way around.
no one really can say 100% this is so any more than you can say they are all a hive mind. but it makes more sense than some zealous xenophobic labelling based on sci fi propositions.

lol

But seriously

QuoteWhy do you think many of the other advanced races in our galaxy don't come to planets like earth and hand over their advanced technology for free? Why don't they just stop over and talk with the scientists and explain the diagrams and schematics and explain how everything works?

They do. In fact that's what's been happening in this thread. The smart ones aren't going to show up in person, for the same reason I didn't drive to your house to send this message. We'd rather use the internet. Likewise most intelligent folks in this galaxy are going to use telepathy.

Addressing why tech trade doesn't happen more often: It's risky. The provider might tack on a condition for the trade, such as the agreement between Zetans and the US government. The military got new devices, and we all got abducted. Bad trade. Now entire countries are falling under the control of off-world predators because they've made so many agreements that they might as well be the provider's property - like getting a favor from the mafia.

Sometimes these conditions are not even stated. If someone gives you information and they realize you're vulnerable to them, they can begin to use force to make you do things.

Quote from: Stillwater on March 24, 2010, 01:30:59
To be honest, even if we were gifted technology like that, how long would it be before we found some way to weaponize it?

We are not ready for more advanced technology then we have, and it wouldn't help us one bit.

Stillwater wins the stuffed animal.  :-D

Quote from: zareste on March 24, 2010, 02:34:37
They do. In fact that's what's been happening in this thread. The smart ones aren't going to show up in person, for the same reason I didn't drive to your house to send this message. We'd rather use the internet. Likewise most intelligent folks in this galaxy are going to use telepathy.

I have been getting help from those I like to call the 'Allies of Humanity'. There are individuals and even a few groups out there that are here to help. No, they are not from earth, and no they don't like to interfere. Their job is to observe our affairs, as well as monitor the other alien races and different organizations of races that are on earth at this time. This has been actively going on for some time. There have been visitations throughout human history.

you are not from a different race Kurt

Who can say.. A few of the crystals I have been meditating with seem to have memories or emotional patterns from millions of years. The future, the past, a far distant galaxy, who knows?

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on March 20, 2010, 17:58:21
This is true. They act as one collective consciousness. If you find them, this mean that all of them will be either all good or all bad. And as far as I can tell all of the ones that are around earth right now are not very pleasant. And by 'not very pleasant' I mean they have no problem abducting you, performing tests on you, impregnating you and taking the baby from your womb, and many other worse things.

No alien can abduct you against your will, that is an unbreakable law. Kurty stop with your lame fearmongering.

I agree that alien abductions are real! but they choose who to aduct and I have to agree with Everlasting! Stop  this fear-mongering!

I wish they'd pick these two. It's not like everyone who gets mutilated on an alien craft has to be undeserving of it

Quote from: zareste on March 27, 2010, 07:58:16
I wish they'd pick these two. It's not like everyone who gets mutilated on an alien craft has to be undeserving of it

...and you wonder why you have negative karma?   :?

Humans have the unique ability to shift their energy level upwards or downwards using their primary energy centers {chakras}. Most free entities are pretty much stuck on one level. This allows us to focus our energy in a frequency range that may be undetectable or impenetrable to other entities.

This device is able to draw on the energy of the user and expand their natural field of energy. If you are stuck in the lower energy, otherwise known as having blocked or unaligned chakras, then the device will draw on that energy and expand that field. This may unintentionally attract the wrong attention, which is why these devices can be potentially harmful.

When your energy centers are aligned, in what I like to call 'Divine Alignment', the energy flows very smoothly from the root chakra out through the crown. The device generates energy using the scalar coils and that energy is automatically absorbed into the energy body. I then consciously cycle the energy (full body circuit) and fill up my energy centers and shoot the energy out through my crown chakra. The white light then connects to the device and builds the field of energy. The resulting field is a high frequency, high energy field that can only be accessed from well outside the Earth grid.

Generally if an entity can come in from the higher frequency direction like this they will have your better interest at heart and give you truth, they will also vacate as you ask them to. They are the higher cultures of our galaxy and strictly adhere to the personal freedom ethic.

Here is some information about Hyperdimensional Physics. Quite Amazing! Read below.  If you want to see how this is applied on Mars Topology then go to this link..... http://www.mt.net/~watcher/monument.html (http://www.mt.net/~watcher/monument.html)


Metatron:
"This is a very big field of knowledge to tackle.

Hyperdimensional Physics (HyperD Physics) is a science that looks at not only height, breadth, and width, but also Dimension. Most scientists before now, including Einstein, have noted 11 Dimensions. In fact the dimensions are essentially unlimited. Some Dimensions contain physical matter and others contain formless form (antimatter). Let's rename matter and anitmatter in relation to the human body. This we may call the physical body (3D) or the physical-etheric body (5D) Know that the physical-etheric body can go out to the 13th Dimension and experience antimatter, but only for brief periods, an hour, or a little more. There are some adepts who can do more than this. The numbers of Ones experiencing this will increase substantially in a short period of time. More and More Ones are preparing for this, and a large number of them will be youths.

Zero Point is an energy flux running through space and that is where interdimensional and multidimensional travel begins. Anyone traveling out of body[OOB] must find zero point before they will go out.
In fact, this is true for space craft traveling multidimensionally. Zero Point is what is found in portals, StarGates, vortices, wormholes, black holes and is what makes multidimensional travel possible... including levitation and teleportation. We must also figure in the Harmony of the Spheres, within which our Planets and Suns operate.

These force fields run through Hollow Earth, and overlap the Planet. These are not only electromagnetic and ionic, but also crystalline. Every Planet in our Solar System has a crystalline core which is anchored energetically into its Planetary, Galactic, Universal, Multiversal and Cosmic Grid.
Mother Sekhmet calls this energy 'The Force'.
The Force = Source Energy+Love. Source Energy comes from Creation. Source Energy cannot be much on its own, but when combined with love, has unlimited potential. The crystalline core inside the Planets are all two tetrahedrons placed opposite each other. Imagine the Great Pyramid as one tetrahedron. Imagine a second same size tetrahedron, upside down, and connect the two at their base.
Every Planet and Sun has this, made of crystal, at its core. Different Planets have different types of crystalline tetrahedrons. What are the size of these tetrahedrons? Imagine the first tetrahedron with the apex point at the North Pole. Now this tetrahedron has a 120 degree angle at the base. With this, you will see the points of the base land at approximately 19.5 degrees latitude.

This is zero point, and zoom! Off to other dimensions. At this point on a Planet, One becomes HyperD. On Earth, some things at 19.5 latitude are; Mauna Loa volcano in Hawaii, Iztaccihuatl and Popocatepetl volcanoes near Mexico City.
In addition, The Great Pyramids of the Sun and Moon at Teotihuacan, Mexico.

On the Moon's far side, at 19.5 we have the absolutely huge Mare Orientale (but near the edge of the Earth-side/far-side interface).

On Mars we have Olympus Mons (the solar system's largest volcano) near 19.5.

On Jupiter we have the Great Red Spot near 19.5.

On Neptune, the Great Blue Spot, all located at or very near to 19.5 degrees latitude."

Mark:
Now that we have our Crystalline form activated in a diamond form, we are affecting resonances through all similar structures.

This is why the ZPMs' energy generators tap into this flow, this resonance, at a critical degree. In Algebra, when you have two values, you may determine the third. Now that the crystalline core has been activated-- when the golden crystal was brought out from the left paw of the sphinx, under the guardianship of Serapis Bey, which happened on 8/8/09, and was then anchored by Metatron into the Earth Grid, we took representatives of many kingdoms back through the golden crystal and brought them back into alignment with Source. The crystalline core was reprogrammed with new codes on 9/22/09 when the Andromedan Team brought a starship through that portal and into the heart of the Planet.

Now we have a positronic-etheric plus crystalline structure and functional relationship which holds more light.
Now we have some other mechanisms, or aspects of The Force that deal with celestial bodies, such as torsion physics. Whenever you put a twist on something, it must react to that compression and expansion. That is how HyperD and Torsion Physics are affected by matter/antimatter.

We will be able to explore multidimensions with the HyperD model, knowing that we go out of matter through the 13D Gateway. The 13th Gateway is the connection from matter to antimatter. Everything from antimatter (formless form) is reflected into matter. Electromagnetic is 3D and 5D is physical-etheric-crystalline.
The origin of energetic communications is in antimatter, and is reflected into and through the matter dimensions. How the origin of ideas from antimatter - How the flow through the 13th Gateway - there are dynamics, mass, rotation, gravity, and critical degrees: (19.5 degrees of North/South Latitude,separated by 120 degrees) There is a very powerful energetic reaction at that point.
This is a circulating spiral motion which interpenetrates the crystalline core. The secret government operation at Deigo Garcia, in the Indian Ocean. Here they have a platform from which they can send heavy equipment into moon orbit, almost instantaneously, with no cost. There is another anomoly in Bermuda. When energy fluctuations occur they take advantage of it. It is instantaneous transport from here to the moon. It is extremely efficient in time, money, and security. Place much of your heavy equipment in orbit, at the time of these energy fluctuations.

Interdimensional portals are very large, as are multidimensional ones. The Earth Firmament is made up of an ionic electromagnetic layer with a crystalline layer above it. The Platinum-Gold grid goes along the bed of the ocean to the top of the highest mountain. Soon it will go from inner to above the planet in a continuous dynamic flux-flow and forms a planetary shield that will reject anything lower than 5D, coming in or going out.

As part of the information/energy flow, from antimatter into matter. How does it flow? We want to include torsion field physics in that.

When our human Physical Adam Kadmon template became crystalline, it became a mirror reflected from the cosmic level. We appear to see inner bodies reflected as outer bodies. As above, so below: reflected hyperdimensionally down through the 13th Gateway. The Positronic-Etheric-Crystalline template allows both input and output through the crown chakra to positronic brain to the high-heart-mind connection, vertically down and up through the central conduit. Our Crown Chakra is now receiving new energy codes (especially during the first hour of sunrise and last hour of sunset) since our planetary crystalline critical mass occurred.

Everything in the lower 12 dimensions gets its info through the 13D Gateway from antimatter levels above. Celestial bodies (Suns, Planets, Stars) are affecting the energy flows from the Higher Levels that we cannot see. The causal level is in antimatter. That is reflected into form through the 13th Gateway.
Through harmonic resonance the formless form interacts with form when we are in alignment. (Also known as Sonoluminescence) Everything in the physical world comes from antimatter.
We are getting from the Great Central Sun; Helios and Vesta and Sol, Cosmic Rays which enter our crystalline crown chakra and thence down energetic conduits in the brain and into our high heart. This is also true of the Earth.
We are talking about a mulitdimensional/interdimensional architecture. Otherwise, we wouldn't have a Unified Field. A Diffuse layer of energy, like a mist, but without form, reflects through the 13th Gateway, where we have a positronic-etheric-crystalline template. We want to include Torsion Field Physics in our understanding.

Metatron:

The energy which makes matter is consciousness. This consciousness does not come from the 3rd Dimensional world.
When we explain about physics, we are looking for height, breadth, and width. Building on that, we explained HyperD physics in which we
added dimensions to height, breadth, and width.

Next we talk about torsion physics.
To explain this we look at a basic mathematic equation in classical mechanics and electrodynamics, for four elements;
1) which is the initiation upon a system of a force (be it mechanical, electromagnetic, or otherwise -- i.e. an "initiating action").
(2) position (and the tendency to return to that position; as in a pendulum or spring),
(3) resistance to motion (said motion being velocity or speed related), and
(4) mass (or inertia), which is associated with acceleration.
Torsion physics adds in Rate of Delay.
This is known as the Fifth Element.
The Sixth Element is Sonoluminescence. This means, Co-Creation at the 13th Gateway. The antimatter consciousness (The Force, or Source Energy+Love) comes into the 13th Gateway from the Formless Form Dimensions and reflects into the Matter World all of the force, position, resistance and mass it contains AND it does it in its own timing. We call this timing "Divine Right Timing" or "Ripe Time". All of these influences are potential possibilities.

The Sixth Element is the harmonics and light contained in this particular equation and that is determined by consciousness.
The Fifth Element is what makes it possible for the physical-etheric-crystalline Human-Galactic to be a conduit for Universal energy flow, known as The Force.
(The Force=Source Energy+Love).
It is through consciousness, or thought, that creates on the antimatter dimensions and either instantly, or some rate of delay, it makes its way across the 13th Gateway into the matter realm, or manifests into physical.
By learning to open the thirteen chakras, one opens their own 13th Gateway. This is when it is possible to cycle between matter and antimatter, as is done with levitation or teleportation.

In Co-Creation the three parts of the unity - the creator, the act of creation, and the result of the creation, became, in the universe and in life today, Be, Do, and Have.
Be = the source or creator, Do = the act of creation, and Have = the result of the creation. Everything that has taken place since then, every moment of Life's existence, throughout the entirety of the billions of years of this universe, can be classified as either Be, Do, or Have. There is a part of your brain which brings in the Source Energy into the local mind, in through the energy portals in the brain, including the pineal gland, and processes this energy and pulses out through the body and into the higher heart.
That is the Source of The Creator, and that is you and I. The Act of Creation is combining this in the higher heart with the consciousness of love. The next part of Co-Creation is crossing the etheric, into the channel, or body, with Source Energy and combining it in the higher heart with love, and then waiting the delay, for when it comes into manifestation on the physical.
The more joy which is contained in the thought (velocity or speed) the amount you desire said result (mass) the amount you have placed this into the priorities of manifestation (position)and the initial thought itself (initiating action) directly affects whether this is an instant manifestation or a delayed manifestation.
Knowing that the Source Energy is a constant. The Love you understand and are able to infuse through your Higher Heart is the one key factor involved in experiencing things on higher and higher and higher dimensions.
To go out of body[OOB] to experience the energies of the 352nd Dimension, takes setting a higher intention, (initiating action) a great desire-you must BELIEVE it can be done, (mass) you must spark your joy at the mere idea you may achieve it (velocity) and it must be a priority in your life (position). If these align, indeed, your meditation will take you to the Higher Realms. You may see, hear, taste, touch and smell all that is there through the senses of consciousness.
Everything that is happening on every dimension and every parallel, interdimensionally and multidimensionally is possible to experience by crossing the 13th Gateway.
Now that the physical-etheric crystalline bodies with 12 Physical +12 Etheric = 24 strands of DNA activating in concert, this is open to anyone desiring to pursue it.
All it takes is setting an intention, making it a priority, being fully in joy, having a high perspective of love, the belief that it is so.
~Metatron

I really need a device like this. I have been doing energy work for 2 years now with constant meditation and practices with manipulating energy. However I have been unable to project. I wish you sold this.

Quote from: jeck140 on April 03, 2010, 20:21:26
I really need a device like this. I have been doing energy work for 2 years now with constant meditation and practices with manipulating energy. However I have been unable to project. I wish you sold this.

I highly suggest redoubling your efforts and learning more discipline.
You can do this just fine without the use of technology.
That's not to say technology is bad... just, you should learn to do this without the use of it first.  You'll learn so much more that way.

Also, please do post your questions in another section of the forum regarding the troubles you're having.
I'm sure we can help you.

Quote from: Xanth on March 27, 2010, 11:14:48
...and you wonder why you have negative karma?   :?

Actually it's pretty obvious. My karma would be fine if you were living in Zetan test chamber, which again reinforces my earlier point

In any case, Jeck wants to project, not learn whatever junk comes with doing things the hard way

Quote from: zareste on April 04, 2010, 00:02:45
Actually it's pretty obvious. My karma would be fine if you were living in Zetan test chamber, which again reinforces my earlier point

Are you just naturally negative or were you taught to be that way?  O_o

QuoteIn any case, Jeck wants to project, not learn whatever junk comes with doing things the hard way

I think Jeck can speak for himself.  :)

He did. You're just so busy trolling that you didn't notice

Don't say that zareste, Xanth's contributed a lot to this thread.

I just notice that xanth always start the heat here. It always amaze me how this so called metaphysical people have a lot of emotional problem with big ego

Quote from: mon9999 on April 04, 2010, 09:48:25
I just notice that xanth always start the heat here. It always amaze me how this so called metaphysical people have a lot of emotional problem with big ego

I only point out some of the inaccuracies of what people say.
It's not my fault if they can't handle it.

And Zareste,
Just because you don't like what I have to say, doesn't mean it's trolling.  :)

Meh...

I'll leave this thread be then.  :)

im pretty sure he doesnt resemble a kitty

hi kurt
i have been reading up on your site a bit and i had some questions i hoped you could answer.
i have some quartz crystals i was able to get at a good price, and most of them are either double crystals joined and they each have a single terminating point , or they are groups of 2 and a half. anyway, what are the benefits of wrapping crystals in coils as you have done?
when you do that, to get whatever these benefits are, do you also have to congeal them inside that resin i see on your site ? why the metal shavings in them too? what kind of meditations and astral projections will crystals help with? I am trying to raise my energy through my chakras more efficiently, to help project but also to help clear my energy and help my well-being and evolution. any help you can give would be great. I did daoist taichi/yoga in the past which used qi gong meditation to raise our energy through the chakras, i just figure with all these technologies nowadays with scalar things, coils, and crystals it will be more effective and time efficient to learn how to incorporate these materials and technologies into my practice. thanks in advance for the help!
sahgwa

go to educate-yourself.org and read about Orgone generators. 

That will explain why the copper and resin are used, as well as the magnets.  Specifically look at the Stuccor Punch.

thanks! once i figure out why they are used, will it explain itself how to use these for astral projection? like areas to place or techniques?

Probably not.  Kurt's work is experimental and much more complicated than what I told you to look up.  If you go to his website, www.mindbasedtechnology.com, you can follow his procedure some.  But you really gotta know what you're doing to make it happen.  

That doesn't mean that an orgone generator wouldn't help your energetic development which can't hurt projection.

thanks so much mr personalreality. you are very helpful :) thanks for contributing to my magical crowley thread too. i found his use of a coin in projection, in his mouth was probably for sympathetic magic. that is gold is related to solar which is related to projection in his mind. also gold is a good conductor, as is copper. but its probably not necessary or too helpful for most people.

that is wonderful device yes...that will help million of people who want to do this yes...!!!!!!!! keep up the good work!!!!!! i want one..

Is this ready yet?

LoL, Kurt's memory still burns bright.

It's ready for Kurt.  I don't think he's gone into mass production yet.  lol. 

You can still contact him through his website if you have questions.

http://mindbasedtechnology.com

Quote from: personalreality on May 06, 2010, 21:17:05
LoL, Kurt's memory still burns bright.

It's ready for Kurt.  I don't think he's gone into mass production yet.  lol. 

You can still contact him through his website if you have questions.

http://mindbasedtechnology.com

I sent him an email.

So, does this work for Kurt without any input from his behalf? (As in, it takes you into AP without any prior expertise)

If you couldn't project before using Kurt's "technology", you won't be projecting after (unless you work hard and train the real way)...

Quote from: Capt. Picard on May 18, 2010, 02:24:30
If you couldn't project before using Kurt's "technology", you won't be projecting after (unless you work hard and train the real way)...

oh give it up

Currently, I do not know of any technologies that can produce a conscious spontaneous 'out of body experience' for any individual that does not have a tremendous amount of prior experience. Daily energy body development training plays an integral role in learning to adjust your body / mind to the stresses placed on it while out of body.

Vortex energy technology and similar technologies use the properties of electromagnetism, nuclear torsion, and diamagnetism to generate potential energy that can be used for a variety of applications. Electromagnetism is an extremely strong force that exists in all biological life forms. Through the use of powerful permanent magnets, specifically Neodymium, and highly conductive materials such as Iron. I have used scalar winding coils with 20+ volts and very high frequencies (i.e. 12 - 24 MHz) to simulate artificial electromagetic fields around calcite spheres.

Calcite is a negative uniaxial crystal that has high birefringence, wide spectral transmission and availability in reasonably sized rhombs. It has a very strong natural energetic inflow and seems to make the perfect link for creating a [Bismuth - Iron] nuclear powered vibration effect when it's positioned inside the electromagnetic field. It is also makes a convenient hand interface for the user, especially if direct mind interaction is your goal.  

So, for those that are interested in learning how to interact with the interdimensional levels of consciousness with the push of a button, I'm afraid where not quite there yet. This particular technology, vortex energy, is more suited for opening stable point-to-point connections through space. The transmissions are broadcast in thought energy and are therefore not limited by the speed of light which would make an excellent method of communications with other worlds. Although, I have had limited success in this avenue of exploration, mainly difficulty in receiving reliable and accurate communications. My team and I have been working on ideas for mind-to-digital interface crystal technology that will hopefully one day translate direct thought into text.

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on May 18, 2010, 02:39:11
Calcite is a negative uniaxial crystal that has high birefringence, wide spectral transmission and availability in reasonably sized rhombs. It has a very strong natural energetic inflow and seems to make the perfect link for creating a [Bismuth - Iron] nuclear powered vibration effect when it's positioned inside the electromagnetic field. It is also makes a convenient hand interface for the user, especially if direct mind interaction is your goal.

Hey Kurt.

First, welcome back.
Secondly, might I inquire as to what, exactly, the bolded sections mean?   :?

~Ryan ;)

google that shiz

In general calcite is calcium carbonate, crystallized in water. Just a regular old mineral like every other crystal but what makes this stone different from others is its rhomboid (six-sided) pattern. It is one of the only known materials with these rare characteristics, characteristics that provide the crystal with unique spiritual properties that aid in the exploration of consciousness.

Birefringence is unique because it arises in magnetic materials such as neodymium and is affected greatly by frequency. Liquid crystal materials as used in Liquid Crystal Displays (LCDs) are birefringent and effects of electromagnetism on an electric field can induce molecules to line up or behave asymmetrical. [1]

Meditating with calcite can increase an awareness of the interconnection between the spirit and the earth. Calcite crystal can also be used to encourage an awareness of the past, or of the future. It helps an individual remember former lives, as well as out-of-body experiences. This stone increases psychic ability, and speeds spiritual development.[2]


[1] The Science of Color, by Steven K. Shevell, Optical Society of America. Published 2003. ISBN 0444512519

[2] Calcite Crystal Healing Stones Metaphysical Properties and Uses of Calcite Crystals Feb 22, 2010, Brenna Coleman.

I use Optical Calcite every time i study for a test. 

lol you seriously got your second citation from an optical science book?...

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on May 18, 2010, 02:39:11
So, for those that are interested in learning how to interact with the interdimensional levels of consciousness with the push of a button, I'm afraid where not quite there yet. This particular technology, vortex energy, is more suited for opening stable point-to-point connections through space. The transmissions are broadcast in thought energy and are therefore not limited by the speed of light which would make an excellent method of communications with other worlds. Although, I have had limited success in this avenue of exploration, mainly difficulty in receiving reliable and accurate communications. My team and I have been working on ideas for mind-to-digital interface crystal technology that will hopefully one day translate direct thought into text.

Well, I certainly hope that you or somebody else could spontaneously come up with something like that soon, because I would honestly need it (as far fetched as that could sound).

Good luck with the development of your astral projection device.

Hi I'm interested in the astral projection device. I checked out the web-site but for some reason is not working. can you post one more time the web address if you don't mind.

Thank you so much.  :-)

This is an old thread, I believe you already missed out on the excitement.

yea, the website doesn't exist anymore

 :-(

That is sad...

I don't think it is such a good idea to go big with this. (imagining big as in lots of people buying, maybe even after it's been proven to work and AP is broken as a myth...o.O)    Is there an Auto Defense/ Shield/ Stay out of my house-inator coming with that ? :-(

Oh. Site not working ? Yay.

Quote from: mels8780 on July 27, 2011, 13:04:19
I don't think it is such a good idea to go big with this. (imagining big as in lots of people buying, maybe even after it's been proven to work and AP is broken as a myth...o.O)    Is there an Auto Defense/ Shield/ Stay out of my house-inator coming with that ? :-(

Go big or go home...  This experiment was just the first of many. In the future I plan on experimenting with much more powerful neodymium magnets and electromagnetic fields. And of course much larger crystals!

And no, there is no "Auto Defense/ Shield/ Stay out of my house-inator ". Which is  one of the reasons why this little project was terminated.