Consequences of harming another.

[heter]

I was wondering if there any spiritual authority that control us all. For example, what if I were to kill someone using magick, what would the consequences be and who would administer them?

[Logic]

What good is punishing, it only causes more harm. People should have the benifit of learning from their mistakes and to reduce the suffering of all.

[andonitxo]

It is called Karma. It is as a universal law designed not to punish us but to show us our mistakes.

It is said that for every bad we do we'll receive ten bads in return. These may come in this life or in the following ones.

But to do evil is not only to do bad things, in some books it's explained that going against another one's karma debts may cause bad to us too. I mean, if a guy must suffer to check out his debts and you help him so his suffering is alleviated you're incurring in a bad action. This theory messes it all a lot, because we tend to do good rather than evil (although this fact may seen unbelievable).

In every planet there're entities evolving as we do in Earth. The spirits responsible to apply karma are those dwelling in Saturn, the planet of karma. And in no book appears how to contact them (as we could do normally with the ones living in Venus or Jupiter).

So, every wrong in your life is the result of an extremely accurate divine formula, designed to teach you. Receive them with joy and try to understand how to fix them. You'll live happier and healthier this way.

Greetings.

[Leventis]

In my humble opinion I think that things are more likely to be an eye for an eye.  When you do good, you receive good when you do bad you receive bad.  When we suffer it doesn't necessarily mean that we did something wrong in this life but many times on a previous one. (thats if you believe in reincarnation of course)  I don't think giving love and help to another suffering person gives you bad kharma.  It just doesn't sound right to me a person helping and being affected in a bad way. Thats all

[Legend]

My current beliefs are also along theses lines.  We are here to experience.  This means that whatever we do, we also feel the repercusion of.  So if you do something bad to someone, you will endup feeling what it feels like in that very situation (perhaps in this life, perhaps in another).  If you do something good, you also get that thrown back at ya.  This creates a natural balance where eventually, you would hope that many people would learn their lesson and tend towards the things that brings joy and love into this world.  The Law is really a sad representation ofwhat things are.  The Law (human law of course) does not distinguish or discern emotions from facts, so it may punish someone who didn't hurt anyone and conversely, may forget to punish someone who truly hurted someone in a significant way.

Suicide is an interresting end since (in most cases, it is a person's desperate attempt to forget their troubles).  In that case, the person is typically incarnated very quickly into a same or worst situation until they overcome the issues as they initially agreed to.  Some suicides are actually justified, because they were planned.  In some eastern cultures, you will find this story of "Jihad" and similar cases of suicide for god.  This story is not actually stupid or false, but like many things, it was wrongly interpreted and used for power as you can easilly see today.

Killing someone or something typically enables that being to experience the same thing you do.  Sometimes you may feel them (for good or bad).  This is also true for people who eat meat.  If you get weird thoughts sometimes, it could come from that.


Take it or leave it, this is a combination of what I believe and it all comes from literature from various sources.

In my humble opinion I think that things are more likely to be an eye for an eye.  When you do good, you receive good when you do bad you receive bad.  When we suffer it doesn't necessarily mean that we did something wrong in this life but many times on a previous one. (thats if you believe in reincarnation of course)  I don't think giving love and help to another suffering person gives you bad kharma.  It just doesn't sound right to me a person helping and being affected in a bad way. Thats all

[CaCoDeMoN]

Killing someone or something typically enables that being to experience the same thing you do. Sometimes you may feel them (for good or bad). This is also true for people who eat meat. If you get weird thoughts sometimes, it could come from that.

Is this really true?

[Legend]

This is one of the facts that I read in a book and couldn't find anything to contradict it, thus I accepted the fact until I can prove it wrong.  I read that in a book.  Some kind of "daily thoughts" and the guy who wrote it is some guy involved in Khaballah.  

Although it wasn't written, I don't know if it follows the same logic as suicide in that it only happens when it wasn't planned to happen before being incarnated.  Unfortunately, information on this is very scarce.

Killing someone or something typically enables that being to experience the same thing you do. Sometimes you may feel them (for good or bad). This is also true for people who eat meat. If you get weird thoughts sometimes, it could come from that.

Is this really true?

[Telos]

I was wondering if there any spiritual authority that control us all. For example, what if I were to kill someone using magick, what would the consequences be and who would administer them?

Far worse, and yourself.

[Legend]

That's along the same lines I was thinking about except I didn't think they would be worst but equal.  Obviously you're administering theses yourself as you get a feedback of what you give for the experience .

I was wondering if there any spiritual authority that control us all. For example, what if I were to kill someone using magick, what would the consequences be and who would administer them?

Far worse, and yourself.

[karnautrahl]

You as a whole are always going to be the harshest judge and jury of all. There are no external outer planet/plane judges out there-not universal ones, unless you count your higher self (if that's your belief) as such.
Suicide is considered a sin against yourself in many traditions and a sin in general in others. I personally feel that the reason behind your suicide dictates how you finally judge yourself for that action.

[CaCoDeMoN]

Suicide is considered a sin against yourself in many traditions and a sin in general in others. I personally feel that the reason behind your suicide dictates how you finally judge yourself for that action.

Sometimes suicide is a best choice...

[Legend]

I do agree, but in theses cases, I would define it more as a sacrifice than a suicide.

Suicide is considered a sin against yourself in many traditions and a sin in general in others. I personally feel that the reason behind your suicide dictates how you finally judge yourself for that action.

Sometimes suicide is a best choice...

[You]

Only if you believe in karma or an overbearing moral god whose will you've gone against through this action.

To me, the consequence is that they're hurt, and you know you have caused it.