Please note: Channeler withdrawn, sickened.

[McArthur]

I know its been a while since this was posted but i just realized it was aimed at me so i will reply.

quote:Originally posted by Edi
Hey whoever,

Can't be honest enough to post directly to me or something?

quote:
may I ask, do you know how those channelings are being done? Have you read them? Do you know what training we have had all along the way?

This was one of the parts that made me realize you were posting in response to one of my posts in this thread questioning the training (or lack of) being given to potential Channelers.

quote:
I will quote from my latest channeling:

quote:E: Perena, is all set up and ready to channel the Zeta?
P: Yes, they are ready to begin.
E: Is the 'link' already up?
P: No, I only open it and connect you when it is time and when you agree to. If you do not wish to talk to the Zeta, no connection is made.
E: Can any being interfere with the channeling?
P: No, I am watching about it all the time. It is ensured that strict parameters are held and no interference distorts the communication. All that is taking place is only between myself, you and the Zeta. I am administrating the contact.
E: Would channeling be dangerous or problematic if I would just 'open up' to anything?
P: This would be blind and would indeed cause problems sooner or later. Is is important to be conscious of such contact all the time and to set them up and close them explicitely. I serve the purpose in being your guide in this because you know me well. I can also ensure you that I have control over what reaches you and what not, so nothing can interfere with our communication as long as you are stable from your side. This is why your attitude in channeling is important. I protect you at all times in order to ensure that the connection is correct and you are recieving correctly.
E: Fine... can we begin now?
P: Yes, I am linking you up now.
E: And here I see the Zeta in my mind's eye.
Z: Hi.
E: Here we go.

[... talking to the Zeta here ...]

E: Perena, is the connection to the Zeta now closed?
P: Yes, it is. There is no exchange between you going on now and no link exists, which would be necessary for telepathic communication. You are fully seperated and don't influence each other. This means that this channeling session is finished.
E: Wonderful.

What I and my guide have explained here is done EVERY time a channeling is done by us. You can see it in most of the channelings in the zeta thread, and if it's not said explicitely, I omitted it because I assumed that by that time people knew that this channeling link-up is done carefully each time, and I didn't want to explain it again all the time.

Ok but how do you know (or we the readers know) that what you just posted is true and that your "guides" are what they say they are. I mean, if its a neg pretending to be your guide then its bound to say it is protecting you isn't it? Mainly because that makes you feel you do not need to practice any form of Psychic protection yourself (which would be quite a bonus for a neg). On a similar note regarding what you posted above, and something i hadn't intended to point out until i re-read this post of yours directed at me, here is something you posted in the Zeta thread:

quote:
E: Hi Zetas.
Z: Hi.. you forgot the introduction, to write how you set up the link ... but never mind. This won't be a problem. We're glad you're continuing this now after a rather long break.
E: Yes.. it was about time. Anything more to add, or do we begin with the questions?
Z: Nothing to add, go on.

Seems harmless enough doesn't it? Well, for those of us with eyes to see there is something quite amiss here. To try to explain i will tell the short version of a funny story i don't remember fully. The story basically relates the contents of a letter a scroogy mother writes to her son with various humerous quips in it. At the very end where she signs it she says "P.S. I would have sent you $20 with the letter as a present but i've already sealed the envelope."

Anyone who doesn't get what i mean can ask me here or PM me.


"They that will not be counseled, cannot be helped. If you do not hear reason she will rap you on the knuckles."
- Benjamin Franklin

[Sam]

I've been lurking around for ages, still trying to re-orientate myself since the argument that tore apart the PSD forums a couple of months back.

I'd like to address the issue of the apparent bad vibes that are resonating through these forums, and sometimes I can't help but wonder if theres a concerted effort on the behalf of some negs (of any description) to tear apart what could be a bastion of defence, using divide and conquer tactics.  But then again, I do have a reputation for being paranoid.

What I would like to say is that I am a busy, busy person.  I'm assuming that most people who visit this site are also somewhat busy.  I find it infuriating to have to read through 2 or 3, sometimes 7 or 8 pages of pointless arguing before someone gets to the point.

You don't need to write a two page thesis on the general topic of mediation or channeling, in order for people to get your point.  You may think you're covering all bases so that no-one has any doubts about where you are coming from, which is good in theory.  But if the whole lot is based on an assumption (no matter how sound it seems), thats two wasted pages of writing that you didn't need to spend an hour writing.  Its also two pages of assumptions built on previous assumptions that just adds confusion.

The other side effect of extra long posts is that, after reading through two pages of a ten page thread, and seeing that most of it is debate based on assumptions, some people simply scroll or jump to the end to see if anything has actually developed.  Sadly I've noticed that these arguments never end, and keep on spilling over into new threads.

I think its been suggested before, but can't there be a seperate forum or thread for settling disputes?  In a thread titled "Channeling such-and-such" I don't want to see the same tired old arguments which basically say "I don't think you can do it" or "Yes I can" then "No you can't" "Can too" blah.

That said, I think its still wise to deconstruct what has been said, and if someone is criticising you or your work, don't take offense.  In fact taking offense implys that you harbour self doubt.  If you were confident about what you're doing, just be straightforward and honest.  Or go around such obstacles.  Theres no universal law that you have to convince everyone else that you are right.

[Nay]

Do you realize you just came in here and did the exact thing that you accused others of?  

It has been nice and quiet for a bit now, not to mention the people whom started this thread are no longer here..*sigh*

Nay

[Sam]

Did I?

Well, I agree that I'm not perfect, but I'd like to get closer to that goal.  So that I can develop further, what did it look like I was accusing people of, and how did I become a hypocrite?  Be as brutally honest as you like.

[Nay]

Sorry bout that..I just thought you were about to start another fire, and next thing ya know...well, ya know []

Next time I will use my little emoticons..when being brutally honest,  it might help the sting. [:I]

Nay

[Edi]

Announcement

I have to inform the Astral Pulse about a recent development that affected a member of the telepathy project group. For a while now, Fuzziwig and myself have been channeling on this board two alien races, the Zeta (myself and Fuzziwig) and the Reptilians (Fuzziwig only). This was done in order to provide members the opportunity to ask questions in order to let those beings, who are heavily involved with what is going on on Earth at the moment, explain things as they see it in order to add to the perspective of everyone who is interested.

You all know how those channelings were received by people on this forum. Apart from the few encouraging and many quiet voices, there was all the time an ongoing onslaught of vicious criticism and deliberate attack on the work that was done. Many people are not willing to examine in a calm way what was channeled and discuss it in a way that would be appropriate for mature people. Many people did not hesitate to ridicule the channelers and the big amount of work and effort that was involved in this. Being called 'idiots who pretend to channel entities' is just the smallest part of it. The atmosphere has been like this for a long time and hurt many people badly, not only the channelers.

This is why there are so few actually channeling, because it has to be correct at all times. A channeler by their nature feels things very deeply, that is why they can do the job in the first place. They open up, and if they are attacked over and over again it is like being abused.

Parmenion was sickened to the point he could not continue. He was physically nauseated.
TruthSeeker was accused and hurt which made him leave this forum.
Val was viciously attacked and injured just for speaking out about why people were being attacked.

And now Fuzziwig was brought to the point where he can not channel anymore the way he feels. It is clearly visible in the latest posting in the Reptilian Channelings thread that the total lack of respect that some have destroys the ability of the channeler to be accurate at all times. Because of this, the guides decided that Fuzziwig be put on 'sick leave' for the time being, until he recovers his stability and confidence. This means that he cannot continue channeling at the present time. Karek, who is in charge of this whole project, has instructed this, and it has been independently verified by each guide of the persons involved.

Up to now, Fuzziwig has been doing excellent work. All his previous channelings were impeccable. He doesn't deserve the upset that he has had. He has worked so well and dedicatedly.

It is your decision, all of you who read this, on how you treat people.

If you want, you can shoot down each one of us, one after the other.

That's it.

Edi