The Astral Pulse

Follow the instructions below the link:

http://rapidshare.de/files/8313165/PsiwheelUnderGlass.ASF.html

when you click the link, it will bring you to a web page with a lot of shtuff on it. Ignore that shtuff and scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on the download button that says "Free" (unless you want to pay for it lol). When you do that, it will yet again bring you to a page with a lot of shtuff on it. Ignore all that shtuff and scroll down to the bottom of the page again. You will see the file name (PsiwheelUnderGlass.ASF). Its 9 mb (1 min, 30 sec.), so if you have a 56k modem, it might take a while to download. If this is you, just start the download and minimize it while you do other shtuff. Then, Voila....a kickass video of me moving a PSI wheel UNDER A GLASS.  (lol yeah i know, its complicated...but its worth it!!) (oh, and you'll probably want to save it so you don't have to download again to watch it again)




By the way, Im [lotus] from AS.  There has always been a discrepancy about how air currents or the heat from a person's hand can effect a psi wheel and make it move. Having moved a psi wheel a few times on my own, i decided to give it a try with a glass container over it to eliminate the possibility of heat or air currents moving the psi wheel on accident. At first, i had 0 success and even after much practice,i just couldn't move the psi wheel when it was under glass.  I finally got it to twitch a few times, and that sparked my confidence a bit.  Having seen that a psi wheel can indeed move when its covered by glass, i became more and more determined to make it spin at least a single 360 degree turn.  That was about 3-4 months ago.  Since then i have managed to hone my skills quite a bit. Now that i have a working digital camcorder, I'm finally able to show some people my progress in this unbelievably impractical art of spinning small paper squares, under glass.

Ill explain the video a bit.  After i turn on the camcorder, I assembled the psi wheel in front of the camera to show that there isn't any weird trickery going on.  In addition, i mount the psi wheel on a clear plastic food container so that you can see that there aren't any mechanisms or devices below the wheel itself which would make it move. I then place a glass over the psi wheel and make it start spinning and stop spinning two separate times to show that i have sufficient control over the psi wheel's actions. I then disassemble the psi wheel. There aren't any strings, magnets, etc whatsoever involved.  I did pretty much all i was able to emphasize this point in the video.

But in the end, you just have to judge this video for yourself. Knowing myself and my skeptical nature, i would be very hesitant to accept any video of TK as good proof for its validity.  Considering this, i don't expect anyone to have an metaphysical Epiphany, though if you do, that's cool too.  I just want to share this video with you guys because i know people can learn from it, and ideally, i hope it opens some people's minds a bit about what they believe can and cannot be done by an individual.  So i hope you all enjoy the show!

oh also, the video can only be downloaded once an hour (because i have the free rapidshare account), so its first come first serve. Don't get discouraged if you cant get it right away, just check back every now and then.

I've always been a skeptic regarding psi wheels, as all videos i've seen leave the possibility of warm hands creating air currents (as you stated above).
But the video you made is certainly interesting as it seems to remove that possibility:)

Very good, thank you for posting! I was already a believer having witnessed several great things. Now learn to assemble inside the glass, put the paper on the needle. Keep in mind it takes no more energy to put it on the needle as it takes to make it spin, the key is focusing or rather allowing yourself to do it.

arrgh double post..

:roll:

mm very cool indeed

thank you  :wink:

(((((this just in)))))

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WOW thats awesome!!!

That inspired me to try it myself. without a glass it worked a bit, but as you said it could have been heat from the hands or something else. under a glass it doesnt work but ill keep practicing, since i saw it kinda firsthanded^^

btw can you do it also without hands? i cant...

Ive tried a few times but didn't get any results.  I think that maybe i would be able to if i tried hard enough, long enough...but for right now, i like the results I'm getting.  I think ill just try to develop TK using my hands for now.

That's pretty awe inspiring. It seems pointless for me to still be skeptical, but, videos are videos. This is something highly interesting though. I'll see if I can't work on doing this myself.

Has anyone been able to reproduce this yet?

=-Icarus

i hear ya man. Video are videos.

As an open minded there are 2 things that bother me about that video clip.

1) You never get to see the top of the glass container and we never get to see your face either. Since the paper is balanced on the needle like it is, a viewer could think you were gently blowing onto the top of the glass container. In fact, when the paper begins to rotate it dips a little at first.

2) When you have finished it looks like you put something on the floor with your right hand before dis assembling the stuff.

Sorry, but that's what came into my head. If you could do it again but show us the glass containers top and film you entire self when you do it that would cancel out number 1).

Looks good. Why don't U try doing it without hands. For me it works without holding hands beside it. I haven't tried to spin it inside a glass but I know perfectly well that I am the 1 spinning it... though I can't control it  :sad:

For those ppl who don't believe that it is possible.. Have U ever tried it?? It's not so hard at all but Ur disbelief will do no good... Whatsoever, I advise U to try it... and don't try to spin it - just expect it to spin.

OK so one million dollars awaits you http://www.randi.org/research/index.html

Tell us when you will receive the money :twisted:

Hi

Many years ago when i was basically a baby still my Father had the ability to move pens across the desk or towards himself. I know its true as he still works for the same company and many of the existing employees could verify the fright they got when in meetings and he decided to make a joke with it................he never learnt it.......he always just had it...............

The strange thing is that when he became a born again christian the ability left him immediately..........weird?

Anyway.........i want to start practicing this aswell.............

LOL

Being a christian prevents psychic abilties to manifest?
Never knew that :twisted:

Maybe when they got him to believe its wrong his mind blocked it........supressed..............

Hey Dirty, nice video man, nice skills keep them up I used to do TK too, very inspired this has made me :)

LOL you stole this from
http://www.astralsociety.com/as/Forum//index.php/topic,15145.0.html

and you didn't give credit where credit is due.

Very bad :O

Where's dirty blondes reply to you all?
We are secondary observers to the footage he is primary !

as the man/women says "videos are videos".

You know, aside from being a very spiritual person and actively developing my own psychic skills, I am also very keen to imposters.

I am not saying that this is an imposter....but one of my day jobs is running my own retail Magic Shop (think Copperfield, Blaine, Derren Brown, etc).  For example, read the effect of this trick and tell me if it sounds familiar:

http://www.mjmmagic.com/pages-productinfo/product-1891/special-order-paranormal-by-ted-lesley.html

Just something to think about.

That is why in this field of metaphysics, the best proof of something being "real" is the knowledge you gain from personal experience.  If you see someone doing some feat of psychic ability, it's good to have that motivation drive you forward to grow and accomplish even greater things.  It would be an entirely different thing to out anyone like that on a pedestal though, especially if the method is reproducable by a simple magic trick.

Just my two cents.

Jeff, you nailed it!  :lol:

People, if telekinesis were real, do you realize we could cure cancer, heart disease, set broken bones, straighten crooked spines, cure blindness, etc.!

I am not saying we won't be able to do these things one day, but it hasn't happened yet (Bible notwithstanding)!  :wink:

Quote from: greatoutdoorsPeople, if telekinesis were real, do you realize we could cure cancer, heart disease, set broken bones, straighten crooked spines, cure blindness, etc.!

And we don't already do these things with reiki?

:/

Nope. What I am talking about would be an objective, quantifiable, repair of a physical problem.

I am not saying I don't believe Reiki is beneficial in some areas. But it has not been verified. These TV evangelists who claim magic healing are similar. It may make folks feel better for awhile, but in cases of genuine physical problems, it does not work.

When I was in Montana in 2004 I ran into good examples of the difference.

I have migraine or stress headaches that can really lay me out. Twice during that workshop I had them start up and two people were able to do a healing and get rid of them. Okay, so I know the healing worked. But it was subjective, not objective. I may have just been stressed and the healing calmed me.

Bottom line, we had a lady in Montana with MS and she still had it when she left. Many people there did their best to heal her. If telekinesis or Reiki, or any other healing method, were a reality, that lady would have gone home healthy! That would have been a verified result.

My hope is that all of us who are exploring these paths are on the way to better abilities. Perhaps we will get there when we attain the ethical sense to know how to use them!  :confused:

It is weird alright with "if this was true you could cure this and that".

I am almost certain that psychic abilites do exist, but whether they are so advanced to do all these things that are possible, I don't think so yet. But remember, we only need ONE person out of 6 and a half BILLION people to do these things, and psychic abilities are confirmed.

Some of you from Astral Dynamics know me.  So, ignore this as I've already posted at AD.  I studied for about a year with the leading Parapsychologist in the U.S., possibly the world, Loyd Auerbach.  www.mindreader.com
He was very good friends with a man who was contacted by the U.S. government to try to do PK (psychokinesis). His name was Martin Cadin and wrote the book "Cyborg" which was used to develop the TV show "The Six Million Dollar Man".

The government came up with the prototype of a spinning four sided paper "target" on a needle for practice. None of the people who were governmental employees were able to make it spin.  This was during the era of the U.S. and Russia's Cold War.  Both were also working on Remote Viewing to spy on each other.  They contacted Cadin because he was the "go to" guy for anything that no one else could do.  He taught himself to fly and held the world record for the number of people (I think this was it) wingwalking.  The man was a self-taught genius in many scientific areas.

I have video of Cadin spinning 21 of these targets of all different shapes and sizes at once. His largest was around 3 ft. long. A show about him was on "Haunted America". You might be able to Goggle it and go to archived shows...Haunted America, Martin Cadin, PK. I haven't tried since I have several CD Roms from class. My teacher, Loyd Auerbach hosted the show.  Cadin isn't alive anymore.  Google Loyd Auerbach and Martin Cadin...you're in for a big surprise.

We learned PK with a target in Parapsychology class.  EVERYONE was able to make it at least turn within 10 minutes and most were able to keep it going for 30 minutes.  Mind you, most of these people were fairly psychic.  Loyd had a large bell jar, and just about everybody but me got it to spin inside the jar.   :sad:

I threw a PK party about a year ago.  Loyd entertained with his mental mind tricks and we taught over 60 people to turn the target.  (I bought lots and lots of clay and needles!).  :grin:   Almost all of them were able to get it to twitch, and over half were able to get it spinning.  Being in a room where other people are doing it makes it easier to do.  Once you see someone else spinning the target, your belief factor goes WAY up.  

I can get 5 targets spinning from across the room just by looking at them and concentrating.  Lots of practice!  But, I have my own bell jar and can only get a twitch.  The only thing I can figure out is that I'm an empath and I have to put up imaginary metal walls between myself and others when they are agitated or upset to keep from feeling their feelings.  I think I equate on a subconscious level that stupid jar with my walls.  So, I gave up and only try it now and then.

Oh, and my best friend and her 2 kids were able to get theirs spinning like a top within 2 minutes of me showing them how.  And, they don't believe in ANYTHING paranormal.

Regarding Randi...you've gotta be kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!  That guy will NEVER give out the million dollars.  No matter how much proof he's given, he always comes up with some insignificant reason why it can't be true.  If he was to accept the fact of anything paranormal, his career would be over.  He's built a career on disbelief and would have to start over if he actually admitted anything was real.  Money is a very big motivator for him.  :roll:

I believe Dirty Blonde's video, because of my own experiences.  Believe me, it's easier to spin a target than it is to make a fake film!  I wouldn't want my face on the video either, for privacy reasons.  Sheesh!!

greatoutdoors said:

Quotein cases of genuine physical problems, it does not work.

(Regarding healings).

Obviously, you haven't talked to the hundreds of thousands of people around the world who have been healed from acute and chronic diseases and conditions.  I have 2 doctors who are specialists and are both in awe that I was able to cure myself by about 80% of extremely severe asthma.  This was after 8 years of hospitalizations, ER visits, and extreme amounts of medications that even the insurance company didn't want to pay for because it was 4 times the typical dose.  I haven't been sick or in the ER for almost 2 years now.  

Most people who refuse to believe are NEVER going to experience.  I'm sad for you.

Regarding the magic trick that imitates PK with a target, I've contacted Loyd and asked him about it.  He's a mentalist and magician because he needed to be able to understand and recognize when something he encounters is fake or not.  Will post when I hear back from him.

I got a quick answer back.  So, here's what Loyd Auerbach has to say regarding magician tricks vs. PK:

"Hi Patty,

Well, you might tell them that magicians -- and special
effects artists -- routinely simulate real phenomena and
real things.  That does not invalidate the actual thing.  

Hey, I've been through an earthquake twice at Universal
Studios Florida.  Guess that means that all earthquakes are
simulated?

So, naturally everything can be faked.  The key in psychic
research is to control for that.  And are these people
suggesting that you are faking things?  They don't know you
very well.

I know exactly how Ted Lesley's version of the effect
works.  It can be easily controlled for or detected.
That's the key.

Loyd"

So, if you would like to argue with the leading Parapsychologist, I suggest you e-mail him from his website.  Hope this helps!

Painterhypnogirl,

No offense intended, but would you happen to be a relative of P.T. Barnum? He had a very famous quote that pretty well covers things.  :lol:

Congratulations on your asthma clearing, but that is not proof of anything. Doctors cannot say with certainty what causes it, and it is not uncommon for it to resolve on its own as a person matures.

If you could heal yourself of, say, congestive heart failure, a broken bone, or even near-sightedness, then I would pay attention. As to other claims of healing, so far as I know, there have been precious few, if any, where medical evidence existed before the cure and did not exist after.

You may want to try this.

Take a small cereal bowl and fill it about half full of water. Set the bowl on a very solid surface, like a countertop. Now take a magnetized sewing needle and spread a thin layer of Vasoline on it. Carefully float the needle onto the water in the bowl. Then take a piece of clear plastic wrap, like Cling Wrap) and put it tightly over the top of the bowl. Now, wait for the floating needle to settle into stilllness. Now, without touching any surface of bowl or countertop, "will" the needle to switch directions, either a 45 or 90 degree angle -- doesn't matter.

Needless to say, while doing the above, keep all magnets well away from the bowl and off of your person, clothes, etc.. Other than that, this one is pretty hard (not impossible) to fake.

You posts tell me two things: either someone is fooling you (shame on them), or you are trying to fool others (shame on you).

Like I said, this isn't meant as offensive or hostile. It's just one person's opinion.

greatoutdoors,
I think that's pretty rude of you to call me a "sucker".  It always amazes me how "expert" some people think they are when they don't even bother to try something themselves, or have never even seen something done.  Armchair experts.  Why don't you try to find someone locally in your area who claims they can do this, and then sit in front of them, watch them do it, and then try it yourself, assembling everything yourself so you know it's not faked.  THEN, we'll talk.  

Like I said, and I think it bears repeating....my EXTREMELY ACUTE health conditions were vastly improved over a very short amount of time.  My SPECIALIST medical doctors were amazed.  THey BOTH told me they had never had a patient go from being as sick as I was (my Pulmonologist told me I was the sickest patient she had ever had) to as healthy as I was in such a short amount of time.  At one point, I was hospitalized for a week, and they weren't even sure I would make it). Later, after doing spiritual work, hypnotherapy and healings on myself, I started dropping 8 different medications one by one over about a month.  They were FREAKING and furious with me, because they KNEW I would end up in the Emergency Room.  I haven't been sick since.  And, the amount of medication I'm on now, my doctor told me last week, wasn't even a theraputic dose.  By the way, I am a Registered Nurse, so I wouldn't recommend this to anyone else, without a doctor's approval and overseeing.

Why in the world are you even on a website such as this, if you are so skeptical about everything?  They have website's for disbelievers.  Wouldn't you be more comfortable among your own kind?  Or, do you just enjoy making fun of people you don't know?  It's so easy when you don't have to look them in the face, isn't it?

Runlola,

Thanks for that post -- much appreciated!  You just made my day! :grin:

Painterhypnogirl,

I actuallywas putting the shoe on your other foot when I asked if you were related to Barnum.  :lol:

Two things:

First, I meant it when I said my post was not intended to offend. I love a good discussion -- that's how you learn. If my battle flags are up (rare) you will have no doubt about it.

Second, I will not say anything on this forum I would not say if we were face to face. One of the supremely good things about this group is that we can discuss, and even disagree, and not feel "picked on."  :cool:

As to some of your other thoughts: I make no claims to be an expert, but I have assuredly tried this stuff myself. Like most on this board, I see huge possibilities and small successes. I take em as I find em!  :wink:

I need to make a distinction here, between healing and the telekinesis trick originally mentioned. Telekinesis would be involved in my broken leg example -- someone's mind would by causing the bone and muscle to move into proper alignment so healing could occur.

There is a whole broader range of healing that doesn't require telekinesis to achieve. But yet, maybe the two are intertwined somehow. (Okay, I'm rambling, sorry).

Again, I think it is great that you were able to overcome your illness. I will give you greater credit when you are able to heal others with even more serious problems, like the MS sufferer. If you have verifiable results in that arena I would seriously like to hear about it -- there is someone waiting for a cure!  :exclamation:

Lastly, I am on this board because I am an explorer. There is an excellent thread called "Agnosticism and Atheism" that is well worth visiting! You will find a bit of my philosophy there, along with many others!

In conclusion, and just IMO, I think the paper twirling deal is a trick. Others are welcome to think otherwise. In any event, have fun with it!

I don't normally get involved with people who cannot absorb other belief's right or wrong,  painterhypnogirl obviously has a shallow acceptance angle, this post has continued due to people watching a video and happily discussing there differing thoughts on it and at a much earlier part of this subject i said
"Where's dirty blondes reply to you all?
We are secondary observers to the footage D.B is primary !" or is he/she??
as the man/women says "videos are videos"".
Has dirty blonde replied since?????????????????

For me this website is about improving your knowledge and testing your belief getting closer to a conscensus of truth not pushing it into peoples thoat!!!

Actually, Runlola, I'm a member here, also, so I think I'll stay.

greatoutdoors, there is a very interesting healing technique called "Quantum Touch" where you can see and feel bones actually move, among other types of healings.  They have a website, if you would like to google it.  I realize they are making claims that you yourself can't see, but I've seen it myself.  There's a funny story about Richard Gordon, the person who started the technique.  He was demonstrating in a chiropractic college, and when the administrators saw what he was doing, i.e.- moving bones with a gentle touch, they threw him out and disallowed any more outside demonstrations.  LOL!  Kind of changed the whole twist and snap into something very gentle.  It would hit their pocketbook, so they weren't fond of the idea.  Anyway, I just thought you might find it interesting, as you brought up more difficult types of healings.

My belief is that all healing is "self-healing" and that all anyone can do is help facilitate healings.  If someone isn't ready to be healed, for whatever reason, they won't be healed, whether it's a medical doctor or a psychic healer.  That accounts for why some people are healed and some are not.

I apologize for getting a bit out of hand.  In my first post, I was sharing information that I had first hand, and it seemed the majority of the responders to this entire thread were not only disbelievers, but were enjoying making fun of dirty blondes original post.  I don't know why he doesn't respond.  Maybe he just wanted to put the info out there and let other people decide for themselves.  I, myself, am a skeptic, but I've had too many times where I've had things happen to me that proved my skepticism unfounded.  So, I guess you could call me an open minded skeptic.  I didn't tell you to leave.  I am just always surprised when people who are very skeptical of paranormal things spend a lot of time on paranormal websites.  I would have a hard time on a skeptic website, so, I just don't get it...that's all.  I will try to be less defensive in future posts.

Having experience of unquantifiable effect's, i've had these in various form's but to tarnish a group with the notion that they are disbeliever's and skeptics because they don't blindly believe that the effect on this video is honest in it's entirety is pure and simply wrong!

Maybe it's your skeptism on some peoples belief that got some astral members tails up!!!

As for Quantum touch sound's interesting
Placebo's having more acceptance as an interesting tool as well, saw a documentary on placebo surgery where all patient's believed they were going to recieve surgery to correct  life long problem's one chap could'nt walk without severe acute pain and always used a wheelchair, 3 had surgery 3 had placebo surgery.
They all went through the consultant who knew of all there medical history/illness to be briefed on what there going to have done e.c.t they went in the theatre and all that, the doctor was the biggest skeptic out the lot but the result's were a real eye opener, after the publication some other's monitered people with m.e/m.s and the brain activity when taking there normal medicine and a placebo somehow the belief that this medicine is going to make me better releases dopamine that makes the subject feel better even though they did'nt take any chemical that would assist there pain!!!!!!!!!

video poster
good video - but be great just without the hands :)
and for those you cant see the face and think you are blowing thru the
closed glass, maybe tilt the cam bit upwards.

greatoutdoors

not all humans are 'aware' of more going on apart from there daily lives prescibe in there books they live accordingly or others opinions. yes questening is good but your only limitation is your perception of things. I do however believe the Psions are very real skills that can be aquired thru right work and enough effort.

If 100% of human race was actively seeking out related knowledge and skills to metaphysics, magick, quantum physics etc etc there would be more peoble being able to do it than just select few apart from the fakes of course.

Ive played around with the psi wheel also outside and inside a glass, but its bit difficult to setup a 360 degrees cam - could do it with mirrors so can see the face, the wheel, the bottle - (top, buttom and sides). ive mearly done this to enhance my focus/concentration and visualation skills for magick. (and trust me it takes a few concetration exercises to hold that focus on the wheel to spin it and not let your mind filled with junk)

In the end everything around us is energy which could be controlled via the mind - the power of the mind is infinite, but the power of the body limited :P

but hec. descussion is good.


runola

Quotea member with ten posts. Rolling Eyes
see, we need ranks again!!!! Laughing

hehe some people are few of words. but true more take part in the furoms
the better - ive learn a few things that way but doesnt mean with your
uber lot posts that you know every thing and person with lesser posts
are useless ;)

Blessings,
Ryu

Hmm... So, if I'm not mistaken, this is an argument between 'believers' and 'skeptics'.  I'm not sure which camp I fall into since I only believe the things that I can't rule out with my skepticism.  I would humbly suggest though that we encourage people to not always take things at face value and look closer and deeper into the nature and truth of things.

I wouldn't be interested in achieving OBE's if I took my physical existence at face value and just believed physical reality was the total and complete truth.

I know I have only a few posts here, so I hope I haven't overstepped my welcome.   :wink:

-Z

Hmm, disbelievers don't belong on these forums

I don't believe that.

-Z

QuoteI threw a PK party about a year ago. Loyd entertained with his mental mind tricks and we taught over 60 people to turn the target. (I bought lots and lots of clay and needles!).  Almost all of them were able to get it to twitch, and over half were able to get it spinning.

Have you written anything on how to teach people to do this?

Anyone else going to try PK for themselves? I've tried a few rudimentary experiments before with no result, but ...

spinning the wheel is soooo easy I cant even begin to say if you let your mind go and let it happen for itself it will happen just keep you hand in the air an inch or two away from it everyday for 10 minutes or so and you will get results.

Thanks, GANAMOHA, I'll try as you suggested. Doing that little bit every day sounds like a lot more plausible and long-term way of approaching this, rather than trying really hard once, getting frustrated, and labeling tk bogus.

Quotespinning the wheel is soooo easy I cant even begin to say if you let your mind go and let it happen for itself it will happen just keep you hand in the air an inch or two away from it everyday for 10 minutes or so and you will get results.

how i do it 10-20 mins a day without hesitating that it will happen - you have to firmly believe that you will succeed or it wont happen nor give up even it takes while. from 13th to 18th i got results :)
[mine usually spins when i am totally focused on it not thinking bout anything]

But doing it with your hands is the way to go at any object size at any distance for now im about ±40cm away from it.

this method i used last time.

Quoteyou ppl are making it more difficult than it is. trust me its more effort putting the wheel on the needle and then sealing it inside a glass jar.

all you need to do this is:

solid focus and concentration at the task at hand with enough will power and it will succeed. just know that the wheel is allready spinning at all times. believe it and aswell that you are aslo allready doing it and can do it when u want to.

so practice concentration excecises, as for example while doing a thing such as eating a apple just think about that and only that or look at the apple for long time without getting distracted just thinking apple. as stupid as it sounds this really does the trick to be able to have good concentration.

then to spin the wheel:
.start getting relaxed
.gather up energy to do it (meditation)
.then focus all your attention on the wheel adding uber focus, will power and concentration. (know and believe its spinning and you can do it)
.adding to that, see the energy coming up from the earth (my source of energy) through your legs up up up out through your 3rd eye (where u should also concentrate to get these things working) into the psi wheel

keep doing that till it moves which will be at the correct moment when everything is exactly right - concentration, focus, will and energy. then put it inside a glass jar and repeat. nice thing to do is to use a usb web cam to film these things so u can have instant replay that u did spin the wheel. easiest to start with a tin foil ±5cm x 5cm by on a needle.

once a day is more than enough remeber not to overwork the 'tk muscle' it has to be learnt to use it. and always see each time u do it as you are going to do it and not try it.

also it sometimes helps to have your finger or hand close to the jar to help you focus your tk on the wheel :)

NEVER GIVE !!! hehe

anything is possible, life is only limited by you.

blessings,
ryu

anyways good concentration/will excersise too maybe little visualation :P

cheerio,
Ryu

but if you do it with your hands for a minute, your hands will become stiff. and thats what happens to me if i practice a psi wheel thing, as a result, my belief on these stuff degrades....

Relaxation is key.  Try resting your elbows and arms on the table to help you keep from getting tense.  Loosely hold your hands.  Relax your entire body.  If you're stiffening up, shake out your hands, relax and start over.  

I don't meditate.  I just think "turn".  You can imagine it turning, or you can imagine a hand coming our of your forehead or third eye pushing it.  You might even blow on it gently to get it started to help boost your imagination.  This way, you'll see what it looks like when it's turning, making it easier to visualize.  

Don't get excited.  If it twitches, you've begun.  But, if you find your heart racing, it's probably not going to turn.  You have to be very matter of fact about it.  It's like any psychic ability...it works best when you are calm.

If its all soooo easy why don't u all post your own videos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have to agree there... walk the walk.

Let's see...hmmmm.  I can't speak for anyone else, but here are a few of the reasons why I don't make a video:
- I can never find the video camera in my husband's office, under all his gizmos and paperwork in his bookshelves.
- I'm very computer challenged, so even if I did make a video, I'd never figure out how to upload it.
- If I did make a video and asked my husband to help me upload it, he would say he's busy and has better things to do.  And, then, he'd want an explanation of why I want to upload it.  Then, he'd ask me why I waste my time on these forums.  Don't want to have that conversation again.
- I'm too lazy to take the time, even if I knew how.
- I'm not here to try to prove anything.  I'm here to share ideas and helpful hints to those who are interested.
- Besides, if I went to all the trouble, I'm sure it would be picked apart and told a hundred ways it was faked.  So, in the end, it would be a waste of time anyway.
- But, if anyone is around northern California and wants to see it done in person, send me a pm.

i can post my vid. but it including having my finger close to the glass which i dont like and its not showing my face. so im am doing 'power of cencetration' ebook after which ill do it without fingers, hands etc etc making the whole thing and having my face in the vid with my ID...

your beliefs == how you would experiance life

if you have small believe you will only experiance small stuff.

If you could step in to the eye of my mind you would'nt be questioning my belief and as for my experiences in life aaaaghhhh, personally I don't sit with my fingers pointing at a flimsy bit of foil on a needle or whatever you use but if you can control the rotation and speed i would find it fascinating and would love to setup an experiment and monitor any emmisions the hands are emitting.
Observation+understanding=development of mankind