(copied from AV)
Ok, i just want to make it very clear, this is something i've always had, i only had any inclination that it was strange a few months a go but i shrugged it off, deciding i was overreacting. It was talking to Carlos on skype today that made me decide to write it. These are not black dots. They arn't 'floaters' and i see them always and everyone, including in the pitch black.
it's hard to explain when i'm not sure how 'strange' this is. The best way i can describe it, is its like seeing atoms in colours. Such as blue, green, purple etc. Very small dots, that are every where and float around, some whizz really fast, otehrs don't move, or are slow. They sometimes 'solidify' so they come into shapes, like earlier it started becoming humanoid when trying some PSI, and i got a bit nervous, not because of that, but because of the feeling i had that was similiar to my last encounter with 'shadow people' it's weird. SO i left that room. But this has happened before, it forms shapes and such. And often i get patches of colours, which i thought was completly normal, but no one else i know understands what i mean. Its a patch of air in a certain colour, but its translucant. Also, i have perfect eyes sight 20/20 vision, and nothing wrong with my retina. I see them in pitch black. When i was younger i use to think they were fairies (i did, they were more colourful and more defined then, which they still are, just got use to them i guess) i use to watch them before i went to sleep. Any views on this?
I get this, mine are always blue. It's like a quick flash. Sometimes they can stay for a few seconds. I started to get this when I started to meditate.
I don't know if its the same-whne i say everywhere, i mean everywhere. Theres not a simple space when they're not. And again, had it my entire life. THoguh, maybe it is the same thing, can you elaborate?
I call them pixels, and it's what I manipulate to create colors when I'm meditating.
What I think they are is the rods and cones in your eyes reacting to the different light particles- color receptors. Of course I could be wrong.
Hallo Tomcat
First I'm assuming that you are the same Tomcat from Astralviewers? If Yes then a special welcome.
I too see those floating colored dots. I have seen them for several years (ever since a pyschoactive experiment with a large dose of DXM :wink:).
I consider the dots to be some form of energy. Maybe something like static electricity that floats about in the air? Whatever those dots are they are much more visible (for me anyway) in darkly lit or even unlit rooms. I see this best in an unlit room with a small amount of moonlight or a single streetlight coming in through an open window.
btw if you have any crystals them set them up in a darkened room and you should be able to view the dots/energy even more clearly.
Regards 8-)
Grey
They're little angels in disguise. :-D
Hi,
I've always seen 'em since I can remember. One of our cats see's 'em too.
That's the best part, proof they are there.
Similar experiences for me started about 10 years ago after I started meditating more regularly and has continued ever sense. Lying in bed at night I see darting lights, some forming to create spinning balls and sometimes holographic faces, animal totems, cartoon figures and once a full body apparition that disappeared from the top down like sand dropping (very cool effect even though it gave me pause to see a man standing by the side of my bed). I can see them with my eyes closed or open and have had my eyes checked too so I think we're just seeing/sensing beyond the normal range.
maybe what we are seeing is ether :wink:
:NoY:
Are you seeing these? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floater
Clear and/or Black?
Or are you seeing clear, little dots that seem to be zooming around... which are more easily seen while staring into a blue sky?
The first (the link) are just normal floaters.
If it's the second... I BELIEVE you're just seeing the blood cells around your eyes moving around.
Myodesopsia...LOL. The names they come up with for certain conditions/phenomenon makes me laugh. :-D
It's a shame they are not little cherubs. :cry:
What if the spots are like pure white/blue light?
Quote from: Mydral on July 11, 2011, 04:30:56
What if the spots are like pure white/blue light?
Then an optometrist visit is in your future. ;)
sounds like you are clairvoyant.
Sounds remarkably like my Switch Visual Context process (http://unbelievableexistence.wikidot.com/how-to-see-a-spiritual-entity-with-the-naked-eye). You can develop this further.
The dots are most likely energy fields particularly surrounding matter, but also between spaces.
Non-physical beings can use these to "anchor" themselves, thus allowing you to perceive them.
I also perceive the "dots" in colour, but mostly black and white.
Your energy dot theory makes sense to me since I often see holographic faces (profiles and front views at the same time), animal totems and even a few flying saucers that come together out of these dots and then disperse like sand blowing away.
its psi energy :)
Consider the idea of checking with a doctor. There is more then floaters the eyes can see when something is wrong with it.
I see these too, but I'd describe as looking like a golden shimmer, made by groupings of particles. I find objects have more of them, or perhaps they're harder to see in thin air. However I sometimes seen concentrations in the air. I think I maybe have seen them all my life, and thought that it was an ordinary occurance. But I remember thinking and anaylzing them as early as grade 6-8. I always see them, every second, every day, day or night. I don't have to concentrate hard, but if I do I can determine groupings and sometimes see individuals for spilt seconds. Sometimes I can notice a flow, but the flow will be localized. I know that I actually seeing this, because I don't see the same particles or "flow" everywhere, its all different everywhere. In addition, even after I close my eyes and open them the same flow for that particular area, or object will be the same.
I don't know what it is, certainly calling it chi or life source is attractive theory though. :)
What I see when I allow my focus to drift slightly or even when I don't and I am "aware" of it, like now, is sort of like a "fizz" of effervescent like matter shifting and.. well.. "fizzing" on and around surfaces of objects. I see it more when there is lower light and have always just passed it off as something to do with my poor eyesight (I wear strong, short-sighted glasses). I occasionally do see auras around people and some (but not all) objects when I focus on that awareness but again, I have often sworn it off to be just another case of poor eyesight and light refraction through my lenses. In the end, I don't gain any insight or benefit from either "phenomenon".. so I have just ignored it for the most part.
Greetings all
This may be of interest.
A couple of days ago I watched the A and E reality show "Intervention" (which is about family members intervening in the lives of drug addicts and alcoholics to try to get those people help).
Anyway one story was about a young man who was hooked on crack cocaine. I can't remember his name but he lived in San Fransisco. At one point in the show he said that he and his friends regularly saw white dots floating in the air. His friends thought that the dots were energy buy this young man said that the dots were atoms. This leads me to think that energy dots Are more easily seen while under the influence of a mind altering substance.
The first time that I noticed the dots was while using a high amount of DXM (the main active ingredient in cough syrup). Since that first time I have seen these dots dozens (or hundreds) of times both sober and while using DXM. It was probably DXM that was the catalyst for me. I suspect that drugs (mind alterants, psychoactives, etc) allow many other people to see these dots for the first time as well.
Cheers 8-)
Grey
Quote from: Greytraveller on August 25, 2011, 23:32:04
Greetings all
This may be of interest.
A couple of days ago I watched the A and E reality show "Intervention" (which is about family members intervening in the lives of drug addicts and alcoholics to try to get those people help).
Anyway one story was about a young man who was hooked on crack cocaine. I can't remember his name but he lived in San Fransisco. At one point in the show he said that he and his friends regularly saw white dots floating in the air. His friends thought that the dots were energy buy this young man said that the dots were atoms. This leads me to think that energy dots Are more easily seen while under the influence of a mind altering substance.
The first time that I noticed the dots was while using a high amount of DXM (the main active ingredient in cough syrup). Since that first time I have seen these dots dozens (or hundreds) of times both sober and while using DXM. It was probably DXM that was the catalyst for me. I suspect that drugs (mind alterants, psychoactives, etc) allow many other people to see these dots for the first time as well.
Cheers 8-)
Grey
Marijuana also greatly magnifies the phenomenom, atleast for me. :P
Does it look like TV static? It might be a condition called Visual Snow.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Visual_snow
Quote from: Jerry_Teps on August 26, 2011, 12:16:40
Does it look like TV static? It might be a condition called Visual Snow.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Visual_snow
For me it totally doesn't look like that. It looks like these dots are really there, and like they have a lot of energy. If I focus on them a bit they're not vague and blurry like visual snow, but they look like real life.
Greetings
Jerry Teps, you asked
QuoteDoes it look like TV static? It might be a condition called Visual Snow.
The best description that I can provide is that the dots are multicolored, not very bright and appear to be slowly floating in midair much like very small particles suspended in a heavy liquid solution. Also the dots sometimes interact by merging or attracting or repelling other dots. This is not a totally accurate description though it is the best visual simile I can think of.
Regards 8-)
Grey
Theory is easy to understand when you know we are god equal with hijacked postulate command. Dots are simply a gradient rehab of god command. See my contexting process.
Ah, I've seen these since I was a boy. Looks just like static. Shimmering, flying static, everywhere. Takes a while to focus in on it sometimes, though.
Quote from: Dazino on September 18, 2011, 14:29:25
Ah, I've seen these since I was a boy. Looks just like static. Shimmering, flying static, everywhere. Takes a while to focus in on it sometimes, though.
It's just the normal operation of your physical eyes. Nothing special going on here.
Quote from: Ryan_ on September 19, 2011, 09:21:16
It's just the normal operation of your physical eyes. Nothing special going on here.
I figured as much. I enjoy it anyway; it's a pretty fun way to enter trance.
Yes it is a fun way to enter trance. Also developing this talent yields surprising results - see my contexting process for more details.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_field_entoptic_phenomenon
QuoteThe dots are white blood cells in the capillaries in front of the retina of the eye, near the macula.
It's not "energy"... they are completely physical and to do with your body... they're not anything metaphysical guys.
Quote from: Ryan_ on October 02, 2011, 19:56:23
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_field_entoptic_phenomenon
It's not "energy"... they are completely physical and to do with your body... they're not anything metaphysical guys.
"They won't appear at the very center of the visual field, because there are no blood vessels in the fovea. The effect is rather weak, and many people don't notice it at all. It is strongest when looking at a smooth blue surface. Some times worm like objects can also be seen floating in front of the visual." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_field_entoptic_phenomenon
Its more similiar to visual snow, and is caused by opening your third eye.
My case is metaphysical:
-'Dots' are everywhere, though concentration is higher around trees, people, animals, and certain objects
-I see them 24/7, day or night
-Next step up is seeing aura's, chakras (which I am at)
If you have any doubts I'd suggest smoking some of that green herb, as this greatly enhances the ablitily to see the dots, auras, and chakras.
Quote from: Hogar on October 05, 2011, 06:11:29
If you have any doubts I'd suggest smoking some of that green herb, as this greatly enhances the ablitily to see the dots, auras, and chakras.
Well, you're definitely allowed to believe whatever it is you like. But it doesn't change the facts.
What you're experiencing when you smoke that "green herb" is an increase in blood pressure, which increases the "dots" you're seeing as most blood pumps faster throughout your entire body.
As I said... believe what you want, but don't delude yourself when facts are staring you in the face just because you want to believe something to be true.
Greetings all
I tend to be believe in a metaphysical answer to this mystery. ("Facts" be damned LOL :-D). I have seen these air dots many times and they appear to have an objective position apart from my own visual acuity. Now of course I could be wrong about this (as in other things lol :-D) BUT it Does appear that air dots move in the air by themselves. I say this even though my eyesight is much less than optimal (used to wear glasses) and also I experience 'floaters". Yet I will 'stick to my guns' on this one and go with the metaphysical (= energy) explanation.
Cheers to all :-D
Grey
Interesting... so even in the face of direct scientific facts proving your "belief" wrong, you'd still rather hold onto them dearly than to remove your belief and possibly change your paradigm accordingly?
I don't mean to offend here and I say this with the utmost respect, but isn't that the very definition of ignorance? Refusal to change a belief even when it's proven incorrect?
Quote from: Ryan_ on October 06, 2011, 10:19:04
Interesting... so even in the face of direct scientific facts proving your "belief" wrong, you'd still rather hold onto them dearly than to remove your belief and possibly change your paradigm accordingly?
I don't mean to offend here and I say this with the utmost respect, but isn't that the very definition of ignorance? Refusal to change a belief even when it's proven incorrect?
How is it a direct scientific fact? Maybe the scientific fact described is something similar to the air dots, but not the same? The dots do not move in a way that would make sense for white blood cells.
Why do you always try to force your opinion on people like this? Thinking it is a fact does not make it one, we cannot be sure and there are arguments for both points of view. Why not accept that there is not one truth, why not accept that people can have a different opinion? This case is very debatable. Scientific "facts" can be wrong.
Hypothetically, let's say that we know it is metaphysical... what good does it do to see them? Does it help or change anything?
I'm genuinely curious. What's the benefit in seeing "air dots"?
I see them best in the evening just as the sun begins to set, and when I focus all of my attention to them they look like little bugs of light... they remind me of bugs/gnats because of the way they fly around, like they have their own agenda. But seeing as how they don't really do anything, I've never really given them any importance or attributed them to anything physical or metaphysical.
Quote from: Orion- on October 06, 2011, 10:54:11
How is it a direct scientific fact? Maybe the scientific fact described is something similar to the air dots, but not the same? The dots do not move in a way that would make sense for white blood cells.
Why do you always try to force your opinion on people like this? Thinking it is a fact does not make it one, we cannot be sure and there are arguments for both points of view. Why not accept that there is not one truth, why not accept that people can have a different opinion? This case is very debatable. Scientific "facts" can be wrong.
I'm not forcing an opinion. I'm providing you with the "facts" as found by science. Choose to take it in or don't.
Could these "findings" be incorrect? Sure... everything we know about this entire physical reality could be incorrect.
Are they more likely to be correct than incorrect? From where I'm sitting, in a completely unbiased opinion, yup.
What's the benefit in holding onto a belief when such facts are staring you in the face?
This information should cause you to do, at the very least, ONE THING... that is cause you to question your own beliefs. Once you stop questioning your beliefs, once you start believing that your belief is undeniably the truth... then you've lost and you're no longer spiritually growing.
The difference between:
"Hey, this information is kind of interesting... what I believe these dots are might be wrong. Perhaps I should look into it a bit more and see for myself"
and
"Science shmience... I believe what I believe because <insert reason here>!"
... is HUGE.
Quote from: Stookie_ on October 06, 2011, 11:18:21
Hypothetically, let's say that we know it is metaphysical... what good does it do to see them? Does it help or change anything?
I'm genuinely curious. What's the benefit in seeing "air dots"?
I see them best in the evening just as the sun begins to set, and when I focus all of my attention to them they look like little bugs of light... they remind me of bugs/gnats because of the way they fly around, like they have their own agenda. But seeing as how they don't really do anything, I've never really given them any importance or attributed them to anything physical or metaphysical.
I wondered that same thing when I first started noticing this effect. I first assumed it was some kind of "energy" I was seeing, but then I did some research into it and came to the conclusion that it was a completely physical process being observed. But yeah, I'm also curious as to how these dots are beneficial... I'm not saying that they aren't, I'm just saying that I can't figure it out. LoL
Science has shown one reason why we might see a particular thing. There could be metaphysical reasons why would see similar things. Like with tinnitus. I've no doubt that it exists but I have lots of tones that I can tune into that take me into different states of consciousness. Science would just say I have tinnitus.
Quote from: blis on October 06, 2011, 14:57:23
Science has shown one reason why we might see a particular thing. There could be metaphysical reasons why would see similar things. Like with tinnitus. I've no doubt that it exists but I have lots of tones that I can tune into that take me into different states of consciousness. Science would just say I have tinnitus.
I was thinking that same thing. After all, EVERYTHING has a metaphysical reality behind it. I suppose the importance or effect of that metaphysical reality is the main issue.
Greetings Ryan
Allow me to point out that according to currently established and recognized scientific fact neither the out of body experience nor the near death experience has any validity outside of the chemical interactions of the physical brain. :?
If I were to take those facts as absolute then there truly would be little point in being a member here.
Regarding air dots, the current scientific fact/theory may or may not be accurate.
You wrote
QuoteI'm not forcing an opinion. I'm providing you with the "facts" as found by science. Choose to take it in or don't.
I appreciate that and your opinion is important to me.
However, in this case (for the time being in any event) I chose to ignore scientific facts.
Cheers :-D
Grey
Quote from: Ryan_ on October 05, 2011, 09:17:50
Well, you're definitely allowed to believe whatever it is you like. But it doesn't change the facts.
What you're experiencing when you smoke that "green herb" is an increase in blood pressure, which increases the "dots" you're seeing as most blood pumps faster throughout your entire body.
As I said... believe what you want, but don't delude yourself when facts are staring you in the face just because you want to believe something to be true.
Well as I said its not the same with everything, the concentration of the 'dots' is differenent around everything. For example there will me many more around a person or a bush, than a stone or a lamp post. If Blue field entoptic phenomenon can explain that, and the auras/chakras I see than I guess I have been deluding myself.
What GOOD or Benefit does ONE get from The Metaphysical Aspect??. To have an Understanding One must first come to the Conclusion that there is NO GOOD or BAD and the Benefit is Not a Benefit at all !!. It is a Step in Ascension!. TRUST in what Your being told from Your SELF!!, That is where ALL Your answers REST!!
I too have always seen these dots moving around in the 40 years of my life. As a teenager I could enhance them through Marijuana looking at the sky on a bright blue day. This makes perfect since to me now when I understand that Pot dilates the pupils letting more light in. I've become convinced that these are all apart of the human eye and nothing metaphysical.
I've read that temperatures can cause a change in how quickly or slowly they move, heat opens capillaries and cold constricts them. I've sat on a bright blue day, watching the sky and saw how the dots move with the movement of my eye. Personally I believe the link provided above/below makes 100% since to me.
I have high blood pressure, some times when I get up to quickly the blood rushes to the front of my head and I can feel my heartbeat behind my eyes. These dots really come out then. I have an open mind about the metaphysical, the occult and the mind. But my analytical mind tells me this is a normal part of the human eye and its function.
Just my 2 cents
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_field_entoptic_phenomenon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_field_entoptic_phenomenon)
See my contexting process. Developing the air dots achieves some wild results (requires persistence!)