Trying to prove TK...

[aussie_swede]

G'day mate,
Definately takes time and practise. It's interesting to analyse how your brain feels when doing TK. You definately know when you are "in the right frame of mind." Have you tried looking for other methods of training? I can post a link if you are interested =)

cheers,
-Steve-

Step outside the square you live in.

[Hephaestus]

If you could perform this for real then you are the only person who can perform TK on something other than a hair of someones head and make it last, ive only ever heard of people move a hair, and that hair business to me isnt TK since a hair on the head can blow a mile with a slight breeze.
Sorry, im just a bit sceptical when TK is involved. http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

[auraseer]

Hi,
Hephaestus, I hate to say this but he is not the only person who can perform TK. Take a look at the http://www.psipog.net website articles and media.

Cya,
auraseer.

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[aussie_swede]

My thoughts exactly auraseer,
This website is great for improving your Psychokinetic (PK) abilities. Definately worth a look just for its training guides alone. You dont even have to be a member to download them and they are very beginner friendly. Oh and Hephaestus, I know its hard to understand how something like this can be done but it can. Many can do it. Spinning the pin-wheel is the easiest practice for TK. Thats why so many can do it. Check out the pin-wheel vid's on Psipog. It just takes belief and practice.
cheers
-Steve-

Step outside the square you live in.

[Hephaestus]

Just got reminded, anyone seen star wars episode 2: attack of the clones? where Yoda uses his TK abilities in his fight scene, LOL, its funny isnt it.

[Hephaestus]

Well i'll check out the site, it says to first start by making a psi ball, I guess i'll give it a try, I can be open minded to this I guess.

[quant]

Once you know how to spin it.  It becomes easy.  At first they tell you to visualise.  i did this, it took me 6 hours straight to get it to work, and yes, my right does spin it anti- clockwise and the left is the opposite direction.

I found that to visualise it moving you had to visualise in a certain place in your mind, which was very hard to access.  eventually after doing it for a bit, i discovered i didn't need visualisation, i could use my energy alone.  I can feel it, i know how much energy i can use.  It really is great.

Hephaestus, you will be able to do it.  Visualise it spinning in a certain direction.  If you find working with energy directly is easier ( like me ) just use the energy from your hands and almost tell it to move at an atomic level.  That's about as best i can explain

Good luck!

[aussie_swede]

Thats interesting that you say that quant because I find that the pin-wheel and energy work are different things. I often send energy to my hands and they become very warm and i know that there is a lot of energy there but nothing happens.

I think it is more to do with accessing that back corner subconsious that gets it to happen.

Thats just with me anyway

cheers

-Steve-

Step outside the square you live in.

[quant]

Unfortunatly, i would have to disagree.  Obviously, you need some kind of visualisation, nothing exists with visualisation.  For example, how can you will something to move with pure energy if you haven't thought about your outcome, which is where your visualisation comes in.

But, i just focus the energy from my hands, and move them at the wheel.  Then i guess my visualisation takes over from there.  It's a hard subject to talk about isn't it...

[Tarconiss]

Well, quant.... With some energy useages, visualization may not happen, in order for an outcome to be acheived... True it may help at times, but when you can feel the energy you use, moveing around; you can take things as a progressive approach, where your focused on what it is doing, right then and there.. this method allows you to possibly change the general course of whatever may be in focus, on the spot, rather than maybe getting confused with thinking ahead, and possibly loseing track of what your doing in the immediate.

[ just throwing in my personal oppinion/findings ]

[aussie_swede]

sure is a tricky subject but we are doing well

sure you need visulisation but i guess what i was trying to say is that, for me, I can have much energy in my hands or focused on the pin-wheel but unless my mind has reached that "special stage" that you get to know the feeling of, then minimal or no results will come.

But isnt it funny how when you do reach that stage then you can look around the room, talk to someone and totally take your mind off it but it continues to spin. Its just releasing that block that gets me....

Psipog.net is good for discussing this stuff...you will find a lot of healthy debate there...but if you take things to heart then be careful =)

cheers,
-Steve-

Step outside the square you live in.

[quant]

Tarconiss:  Yes, i agree with you,  i just use the energy in my hand to spin it, i can feel it, it's pretty powerful, but, when i said about visualisation, i just meant, you need to know what you are doing to achieve your goal, and that is your visualisation.

Yes aussie_swede, i also have your trouble too, sometimes i can get no energy out, but yet sometimes, usually after i come back from a night club and have been daning all night, i can control it 100%, it's great!

[Oliver]

Hi,

I'm interested in this.
How exactly do you do this?
I went to that psipog site, and read a couple of articles there.
I have made that little pin wheel thing.
I know it's possible. So what techniques do you all use?

I've actually had quite a few dreams where i've been able to move things using telekinesis, I totally remember how it feels, I look at something and then energy sort of reaches out from my forhead where that chakra is, and i can feel it all the way to where the object is, and then i can lift the object using this energy. It feels really cool, I wonder if it feels like that in real life.

Also knowing that all psychic ablilities are related to energy, energy work would be the best palce to start.

Oliver

[quant]

Hehe, it's funny you should say that Oliver, before i could do TK i had dreams that i could do it, and i could also feel how it felt to move objects in my dreams.  Once i was able to move the object for real.  When i did move it for real, sometimes it did feel like it did in the dream.  Strange...

[Oliver]

Wow, cool:)

There seems to be a lot of people here who have had success with this.
Why do you put your hand by the wheel? How is that suppose to help?

Oliver

[kifyre]

quote:Originally posted by quant:
Hehe, it's funny you should say that Oliver, before i could do TK i had dreams that i could do it, and i could also feel how it felt to move objects in my dreams.  Once i was able to move the object for real.  When i did move it for real, sometimes it did feel like it did in the dream.  Strange...

I've had dreams too, where I could just do it. It felt so natural and normal. And I've also had dreams where the memory of how to do it was just out of my reach. Same goes for passing my hand through things. So strange...

Can anyone  "reach out" and feel an object, with energy, I suppose? I feel like being able to give it a push or pull would just require a little more "muscle."

Mark

[quant]

Well, i put one hand around the wheel really, i can transfer energy from my hand to the wheel.  Some people use their astral hands to do it.  I guess it all depends on your views on how TK actuallly works...

[Oliver]

I did it

I looked at the pin wheel and i got it to move, i did it on three occasions, so im convinced it wasnt a breeze. The first time it spun forward a little bit, and the other times it sort of rocked. I didnt have my hand next to it, i just looked at it.
Its exciting to do something like this, its a new experience:)

Oliver

[aussie_swede]

hmmm..hand by the wheel, hand by the wheel...
well i guess its to bring energy closer to the object you are trying to move.

I also have had dreams about doing TK since i was about 8 years old. It was the most incredible feeling. However when i would wake up and realise it was just a dream then i big wave of dissapointment would come over me.

It isnt really the same feeling as in the dream in the beginning because it scares the hell out of you in the beginning.

But then as your belief system adjusts, you become used to the idea. Even after two months of training nearly every night, i still get a small shock when it moves.

There is not really any "This is how you do it" technique that is guaranteed to get it to work first time every time. It just takes time and practise. Like someone advised me. "Its like a muscle, If you want it to work better then you must train it."

Dont expect results straight away but know that they will come. You just have to train the TK muscle of yours for a little while.

This is the best advice that was given to me and the best the i can forward to anyone else.

Good luck, start small and practise practise practise.
cheers,
-Steve-

Step outside the square you live in.

[Oliver]

Yeah I agree,
and if u overwork a muscel then u wont be able to do anything with it until its had time to rest.
I tyed again this morning for a couple of minutes but it didnt move, so i've left it for now. Maybe its not a good idea to keep trying after too long without success, maybe its better to come back to it later and try again.

Oliver

[Kiwi_Swede]

Hey there all. About a week ago I sat down down for the first time to attempt the pin wheel. I had tried before, but only once for about 2 minutes. I was in a good mood and just felt like giving it a go. My friend has been doing the pin wheel too, so that was a bit of motivation. I sat down, put both hands around it and just felt realxed. I then used just one hand, my left, and 'let my mind go'. I wasn't thinking anything at all really. And then it began spinning. I wasn't so shocked because I knew my friend could do it. But at first I didn't believe it. I looked for a draught, couldn't find one.I even went to the extent of covering up my mouth and nose with another piece of clothing while spinning the pin wheel. I can spin it with both my left and right hand. I found that it rotates clockwise with my left hand and anti-clockwise with my right hand. I dont know why this is but it is the same with my friend. After a few more days of experimenting I wanted to be certain. I experimented with blowing air into my cupped hand to make it spin, but thought, if its wind then why does it only start spinning when you reach that right frame of mind?If it was a breeze or a draught created in your hand then surely it would be continuous. I tried stretching my right hand all the way round so that it is almost in the position of where my left hand would be, wondering if it would spin clockwise because thats the way it spins with my left hand. It continued with anti-clockwise. I have also been able to keep it spinning when my hand was almost flat, not cupped. So if it was a breeze or draught created in my hand it would be able to continue because there is nothing to create a circular current to make the paper spin. But I don't know yet if I am a 100% believer...Time and practise will tell....

-Cheers-