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[Quiet Storm]

I feel that this article is very important for anyone who uses cow products.. it's worse than you think:

A Testimonial From The Man Who Killed a Mad Cow
http://www.mercola.com/2004/sep/18/mad_cow_killer.htm

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quote:Originally posted by Quiet Storm

Jenadots: Aren't you forgetting that Putin is blaming the US and the UK for sponsoring the terrorist "twin" plane crash as well the "school terror" event, and not Osama Bin Laden?

I'm sure of our involvement with the first. The second wouldn't surprise me. I use the word 'our' loosely.

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all are condemned until life is given rather than taken.

[Quiet Storm]

ACCUMULATING EVIDENCE THAT IVAN WAS MANIPULATED

LOOK HERE FIRST:
The Rumor Mill News Reading Room
IVAN IMAGES - WHAT THE HECK IS THAT THING...?
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=55807#IVAN

FOLLOWUP:

EMAIL:
9/18/2004 3:57:40 PM Pacific Standard Time

This is near where I grew up. The white square was roughly over a no man's land called,"Tate's Hell". About 20 miles to the NE is the National High Magnetic Lab 2. About 20 miles to the NW is where 4 people were killed in one of Ivan's tornados at Blountstown.
See:
http://www.fl-dof.com/state_forests/Tates_Hell.htm
http://www.magnet.fsu.edu/about/tallahassee.html

REPLY TO ABOVE EMAIL:

9/18/2004 9:02:29 PM Pacific Standard Time
Thanks, You know I downloaded the GOES IR weather loop for this time period, but by the time I got to it these key frame-files had been removed by UNISYS. At the time I was puzzled by the data gap, in fact smelled a rat, and really glad that someone was head's up to find the frames. I have the loop on my hard drive. I made this screen capture from my animation analysis program showing the missing data. I'm posting this as additional corroboration that indeed something strange might have happened.--Kent
See:
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/missingf.jpg
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Look at this pentagram right in the eye of hurricane Ivan: http://www.climatepatrol.com/files/the_star_in_ivan.gif

Well stirred. []

[Aileron]

to be honest, I think those pics are tampered.
You can see the first pic contains a little trail off before you hit the puffed square. Simple to do in photoshop with a smudge tool and the white area just needs to be airbrushed with something at a very light pressure until the right look is furnished.
Not too mention usually in a hurricane the winds tend to follow the spiral, not create a broken path in one variation of the storm which does not move with the storm, but in fact stays in the exact same path throughout the movement.

If anyone thinks that is possible, or even plausable, raise your hands. Personally I think that it would have been pointed out and even seen on the continious coverage of all the hurricanes thus far.

[Quiet Storm]

Earthquake by Hurricane Jeane: http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/neic_nnaj.html

This is actually the 3rd time there has been notice of an earthquake with a hurricane this year.. I don't know if it's normal but I sure have never heard of hurricanes causing earthquakes. At a regular forum I post at there has been notice of earthquakes caused by hurricane Frances and Ivan.

I knew there was something weird with the bands.. like I said, they look weird like seismic waves. Nothing like I've ever seen before in a hurricane. It made hurricane Frances look like it had a very weird spinning action.., the outer bands with the waves seemed to be going the opposite direction and moving outwards and away from the eye.

[Quiet Storm]

This is a funny... BBC admits mobile phones don't work on aircraft!

Mobiles in aircraft edge closer
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3665848.stm

They didn't have this technology back in 9/11. So how did the calls from the aircraft get through then?

[Aileron]

two things:

1) I dont know if those on the 9/11 flights used their cells or the on-board phones.

2)It doesnt say that mobiles dont nor ever worked on planes, just that they didnt want people using them as they interfered with the instruments on board. In fact that was what the study showed, was that mobiles do and have worked, they were just told not to use them.

those on the plane probably werent concerned with getting into trouble for using their cells if that is what they used to make the calls.

[Quiet Storm]

Your right, mobile phones do work.

[Jenadots]

Quiet Storm...Is there a negative rumor or conspiracy plot about the big, bad old USA that you don't or wouldn't believe?  Just a thought.

Myself, I know the government allows some questionable, if not despicable things to occur.  But most of this stuff is just rumor, conjecture, conspiracy fears, unprovable claims, and in some cases, just outright hair-brained lies and made up evidence.    

None of which means the terrorists are the good guys.  And Putin has to blame someone - he can't very well blame his own government.  

And no, I do not believe the President had anything to do with the planes crashing into buildings on 9/11 or the school attack in Russia.  I blame the people who actually did those things.  They are at fault and not one of the victims or the countries deserved to be on the receiving end of those events.  There is no possible excuse they can use to explain away what they did.  Not the USA government.  Not the Russian government.  Just their own fanaticism.  

As for the Israeli's - well there are a billion Muslims who think Hitler was right and they would be happy to finish the job.  So of course their intelligence agencies are extreme.  They have to be.  The survival of every Jew in Israeli depends on it.  How would you like to live there knowing that at any given time someone could try to blow you up?  I don't imagine they rest easy too often.

So, please, could you at least try to see some good in the USA and not be so eager to believe the worst anyone can think of - or at least be a little bit skeptical of some of these things?

I am always fascinated by some people who claim Bush is as dumb as a brick and then give him credit for designing some grand scheme to destroy the world, take away all our rights, and get terrorists to do his bidding.  And that he has somehow gotten everyone in the government to go along with it all and hide everything from everyone.  He is either the dumbest man alive or the smartest.  These are the same folks who come up with all this so-called evidence that rarely holds up to scrutiny.

Things may not be as good as you want them to be but they are likely not nearly as bad as you seem to believe they are.  

Presidents come and go as do events.  And the world goes on.  

And why wouldn't you think earthquakes and hurricanes can go together?  3 earthquakes in Japan preceded Ivan and there have been rumblings in California now for over a month.  Probably not a cause and effect relationship -- just nature doing what it does in different places.  Hurricanes in one place and earthquakes in another.  Other places have drought or wind storms.  These are natural events, not bizarre occurences.

Glad you got through the hurricane thing and hope no more are coming your way.  

Peace.....Jena

[Quiet Storm]

quote:Quiet Storm...Is there a negative rumor or conspiracy plot about the big, bad old USA that you don't or wouldn't believe? Just a thought.

Myself, I know the government allows some questionable, if not despicable things to occur. But most of this stuff is just rumor, conjecture, conspiracy fears, unprovable claims, and in some cases, just outright hair-brained lies and made up evidence.

None of which means the terrorists are the good guys. And Putin has to blame someone - he can't very well blame his own government.

And no, I do not believe the President had anything to do with the planes crashing into buildings on 9/11 or the school attack in Russia. I blame the people who actually did those things. They are at fault and not one of the victims or the countries deserved to be on the receiving end of those events. There is no possible excuse they can use to explain away what they did. Not the USA government. Not the Russian government. Just their own fanaticism.

The chechen terrorists were not from the government, so yea he wouldn't blame his own government, why would he?

And yes I know the latest articles about Putin's suspicions and found evidence was based on a supposed speeches of which other media sources around the world also reported on.

quote:As for the Israeli's - well there are a billion Muslims who think Hitler was right and they would be happy to finish the job. So of course their intelligence agencies are extreme. They have to be. The survival of every Jew in Israeli depends on it. How would you like to live there knowing that at any given time someone could try to blow you up? I don't imagine they rest easy too often.

Did you not hear of the news from the "official" CNN News Station that the FBI knows there is an Israeli spy in one of the highest seats of the government who was supposedly responsible for false intelligence about the war on Iraq, and were "investigating". And they still seem to be investigating...

quote:So, please, could you at least try to see some good in the USA and not be so eager to believe the worst anyone can think of - or at least be a little bit skeptical of some of these things?

Who said I don't, Jena?

quote:And why wouldn't you think earthquakes and hurricanes can go together? 3 earthquakes in Japan preceded Ivan and there have been rumblings in California now for over a month. Probably not a cause and effect relationship -- just nature doing what it does in different places. Hurricanes in one place and earthquakes in another. Other places have drought or wind storms. These are natural events, not bizarre occurences.

Hurricane Ivan caused an earthquake right where it was at, at the time the Earthquakes were felt. They were most likely in the ocean, and mildly felt on land . This latest one from hurricane jeane was a magnitude 5.5 on the land right under hurricane Jeane. The coordinates were:

485 km (305 miles) NE of Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic
510 km (320 miles) NE of Santiago, Dominican Republic
535 km (330 miles) NNW of SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico
565 km (350 miles) NNE of SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic

Did you not read the information I got? It was from the US Geological Survey website on a .gov sponsored adress... which should make it an official source too.

The point is: this is not what happens in what is deemed the 'norm' by most... and even Jenaland. heheheh []

[Aileron]

I have to agree, I dont think that what has been happening both geopolitically and environmentally, is anywhere on the norm meter anylonger.

I seriously think that the threshold has been crossed over and too few people are taking this honestly enough to even discuss it. I tried with my parents tonight, and it just turned into a joke, something Im use to, but still disturbing that most people will only mention whats happening in the world, but not discuss it or why they think it is happening.


Though I do think this is all very abnormal in the pasts terms of what may have been normal outwardly, it still does not necessarily mean every twist and turn that occurs is with motives well beyond what it may seem. Im sure here and there, certain conspiring agents are acting together and against one another, but not everybody is in on it, and not everybody is even concerned with it all.

The only part I believe we need to continue on a steady path, is our awareness and study of the surrounding world we live in, without jumping to conclusions, without creating false hopes or worries and without blinding ourselves to all the possibilities.

It does us no good to look at every possibility and surrender our wills to the creators of information and disinformation, just as it does us no good to just deny everything as well.

Take it in stride, wait it out and when we are ready, we will know, I promise this.

[Quiet Storm]

Zionist Jews Worked ´To Capture The U.S. Government´

9-19-4

Edwin M. Wright was an intelligence agent and State Department employee in the 1940s and 1950s. Though an internationalist and an advocate of a plan for bringing refugee Jews to America, he saw clearly the danger posed by Zionism to the United States and to the world. His account of Jewish crimes and manipulations makes riveting reading. His personal experiences of Jewish bullying (and even impersonation!) of Presidents and officials, vote-buying, and much more are absolutely amazing and convincing. He´s also an excellent writer. Excerpts follow:

"The material I gave Professor McKinzie was of a very controversial nature -- one almost taboo in U.S. circles, inasmuch as I accused the Zionists of using political pressures and even deceit in order to get the U.S. involved in a policy of supporting a Zionist theocratic, ethnically exclusive and ambitious Jewish State. I, and my associates in the State Department, felt this was contrary to U.S. interests and we were overruled by President Truman..."

"Zionists and Christian Fundamentalists have frequently used the Hebrew Bible as an authority for justifying a Jewish State. As late as summer 1976, Candidate Jimmie Carter stated, ´I am pro-Israeli, not because of political expediency, but because I believe Israel is the fulfilment of Biblical prophecy.´

"So the Bible-- and belief that it is God´s Holy Word and infallible, became a useful tool in Zionist propaganda. I take the point of view that the Bible is a mixture of Hebrew legends and myths and cannot be used as an element in U.S. foreign policy."

"The Zionists were very successful in using religion for political purposes. This is prohibited by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution which states the Government should recognize no ´religous establishment.´ In the case of Zionism and Israel, the U.S. has recognized and supported a religious establishment--viz: the State of Israel which in turn discriminates against all non-Jewish religions."

"Zionists, since Truman´s decision in 1947-48, have lived in a Fool´s Paradise. They assumed their control of the US government, press and public was permanent and based an ´moral´ values -- therefore, the US at all times would give Israel total support. Zionists seem to live in a dream world of their own creation and think the rest of the world should accept their dream. They seem quite incapable of facing reality."

"Esther got her Gentile King drunk, then wheedled his signet ring and sent out an order to the Jews--so they slew 75,000 innocent Persians (Esther 9:16). The Book of Esther is not history. It is parody. The Ahasuerus of Esther is probably the Seleucid King Antiochus IV Epiphanes (165 B.C.) and Mordechai is probably a symbol for Judas Maccabeus. Esther represents the beautiful dream of a Messianic Jewish State. There is a lesson nevertheless in this immoral and violent story. A political marriage of any political power with Messianic Zionism is certain to produce disaster."

"Time is vindicating the point of view of those State Department specialists whom Truman said he could not trust because they were ´anti-Semitic.´"

"The third step in Zionism was that they must have large enough a state in order to keep the whole Jewish population there. At that time there were about fourteen million Jews, and now that meant owning a very large territory. It is not brought out in Zionist propaganda in America, but what they claim is all the territory from the Suez Canal clear north to the mountains of Cappadocia, in southern Turkey. [Statement by Herzl. Also see Numbers 34; Genesis 15:18, Joshua 13, II Samuel 8:5-6.} It includes all of Lebanon, much of Syria, Jordan, and Sinai. This is the territory they call ´Eretz Israel,´ the land of Israel, which is mentioned in the Bible."

"I might mention here that I have found Zionism very deceitful. There is a double meaning in all the words Zionists use, and [Chaim] Weizmann himself said one time, ´Let the British or anyone else talk about Zionism and they can use our terminology, but we know what the meaning of it is. It has one meaning to us, one meaning to the Gentiles.´ They´ve always had this double-entendre in everything that they have done. Whenever they use words you have to try to find out what is the context in which they are using these words."

"Domestic issues are not based on intelligence, but on self interest of a smaller group, and I think in this connection I think I should mention specifically two. One was what we called the China Lobby, a very odd and indiscriminate group of people who never were really organized, but had a tremendous influence upon government. They eventually were captured by Senator [Joseph R.] McCarthy. The other were the Zionists, who were more organized. They had been working for a long time to capture the U.S. Government; to use it for purposes of developing a Jewish state. In other words, we had two lobby groups in America who knew little about the area at all, who had certain ideological concepts of society and America. When the people from the fields reported what was unpopular to these groups, they were fired."

"...when the election was coming up in 1946 in New York, the group of New York Jews called upon Mr. Truman. [Alan Taylor, op. cit. p.93] Emmanuel Cellar was the head of this committee. Rabbi Steven Wise and several others were in it. They called upon Mr. Truman and said, ´We have just been talking with Mr. [Tom] Thomas Dewey. He is willing to come out and declare for a Jewish state, and we are going to turn our money and urge the Jews to vote for him unless you beat him to it.´ Then Emmanuel Cellar pounded upon Mr. Truman´s desk and said, ´And if you don´t come out for a Jewish state we´ll run you out of town.´"

"Henry Byroade made a talk in Philadelphia in April 1954. ...In it he made this statement: ´I have some advice for both Arabs and for Jews. Israel should think of itself as a state living in the Middle East and that it must live with its Arab neighbors. The Arabs must cease to think of themselves as wanting to destroy Israel and should come to terms with Israel itself.´ ...The next morning Henry Byroade got a call from Nathan Goldman, who was in California. [Nathan Goldman was president of the World Jewish Congress and many years president of the World Zionist Organization...] He used his first name and said, ´Hank, did you make that speech in Philadelphia that was reported in the papers today?´

"Byroade said, ´Yes, I made that speech.´

"He said, ´We will see to it that you´ll never hold another good position.´"

"The Zionists are organized in 17 (now 31) different committees and groups in America. They are all inter-related by what´s called the Association of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations. These are the presidents of the 31 Zionist organizations. All they have to do is to send in a letter to any one of them and these 31 will reproduce it in mimeograph and send it out to all their organizations. As a result of one letter you´ll get hundreds of replies coming in attacking me. This is the type of constant fear that a Government official lives under because of the mimeograph machine and the xerox machine."

"Mr. Truman himself has the most remarkable of all statements in there, a memo that´s quoted, in which he says, ´Something´s going on and I don´t know what it is. Somebody called up the President of Haiti and he said that it was I. [F.R.U.S., 1947 , Vol. V, p. 1309.] He said, "We want you to vote for the Zionist program." As a result the President of Haiti changed his vote to satisfy what he thought was me. I don´t know who this fellow was that called him up.´

"In other words, somebody impersonated President Truman and threatened the President of Haiti. There were people who used President Truman´s voice and name and he didn´t know who they were. The State Department never found out who they were, but this is the way decisions are made in Washington. I think I know who that fellow was. It was Robert Nathan, because I met Robert Nathan frequently at the U.N. I had met him out in the Middle East, and he was the one who was running to the telephone booth and calling up the President of Liberia, calling up Costa Rica, telling them, "Unless you will vote for our program, we will see to it that the American interhighway system is not built through your country." These people assumed that Nathan and Co. were acting for America and nobody had consulted them at all. This kind of thing went on at the U.N. and in Washington and if you want the documentary proof of it, it´s in Mr. Truman´s statement.

"Before I read this statement of Mr. Truman´s I´ll have to explain what the situation was. There was tremendous pressure upon the governments of other countries to vote for the partition program, which the Zionists had accepted. I was at the U.N. and was Mr. Henderson´s assistant and was there when he read some of these memos. I was reporting back to the State Department what was happening at the U.N.

"There were a number of Jewish Zionists at the U.N., like Robert Nathan, Bernard Baruch, and various other people, who were calling up the chiefs of other states and saying, "Unless you vote for this partition program, the United States will not build a road in your country; will not help you in aid or will not do something else." They were pretending they had the authority of the President of the United States to determine policy, when they were just one individual operating on their own. They had no authority, no official position, but they were using the importance of the United States as a threat against these countries."

"That´s an official document. Somebody represented himself as the President of the United States to some foreign countries. This was the kind of threat that the Zionists used to change votes at that last session when finally it was voted by a small majority of two or three."

"It´s very rare that a country of which no boundaries are known is recognized. There are also other questions: When you recognize a state do you recognize its claims to people outside the state? The Zionists have always claimed that the Jewish nation is wherever a Jew is, anywhere in the world. Every Jew, therefore, is part of this Jewish nation. Golda Meir repeated this when they asked her what the boundaries of Israel are. She said, ´Wherever there´s a Jew, there is Israel. It´s not a line on a map.´"

"´Constantly they kept asking me, "Why does the United States behave this way?" I couldn´t explain it to them.´

"Nobody can explain it, because you´ve got to know how they buy congressional and senatorial votes through speeches; how they control the five electoral states, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, etc. You have to understand the weighting of the Jewish vote in America and the contribution to the party systems. By the time we explained that to Arabs they´d say, ´But aren´t you corrupt?´

The answer is, ´Yes, we´re corrupt.´"

Source: Truman Presidential Library

[Palehorse]

Don't know if anyone has seen this yet, but I figured it fits here.

http://bash.org/GODvsBUSH.gif

No, I don't really believe what this is saying... but I can't pretend the idea of God chasing Republicans with hurricanes doesn't amuse me, either.  Ahem.

[Quiet Storm]

That's what happens when the Navy and the Airforce play God with their inferior technology. It comes back to bite them in the butt.

and to think I and all the others that intended to bring about a more positive outcome from these hurricanes had anything to do with it.

At GLP and other forums I noticed people actually encouraged other to use their own power, and pray for what is right and just...

I'm glad that others are putting faith in themselves. []

[Palehorse]

Eh, I'm not so sure about any positive outcomes that may come of this just yet.  The most likely outcome I see is for Dubya and Jeb to take this opportunity to play hero, dump a bunch of federal dollars into Florida for reconstruction, and essentially buy that state's vote.  I hope I'm wrong, but we shall see.

I'm also not really willing to call the destruction of someone's house or the loss of their life "justice" for a vote they cast four years ago.  But, if these hurricanes serve to wake more people up to what's going on around them, then some good may yet come of all this.

[Quiet Storm]

Anything is possible.

[Quiet Storm]

Russian President Escapes Attempt on His Life

18 September 2004 | 13:13 | FOCUS News Agency

http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?catid=137&newsid=48086&ch=0&datte=2004-09-18

Moscow. Russia's President Vladimir Putin escaped an attempt on his life, Italian channel RAI 1 reports. Early this morning the police in Moscow found two car-bombs full with explosives parked on one of the regular routes where his cortege passes every morning on his way to the Kremlin. There were war mines and explosives in the two cars and the police dismantled them successfully.

I wonder if he'll blame this one on the "westerners".

If you still don't beleive he has suspicion of western countries being linked to terrorism, or more, check this out from Cleveland.com posted today.

Terror in Russia raises suspicions about West´s role
Sunday, September 19, 2004
Steve Gutterman
Associated Press
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/109558658028210.xml

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Yep... here's a discussion on it, pretty good information in there as well http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?message=437040&mpage=1&topic=3&showdate=9/20/04&replies=41

[Jenadots]

Been one of those 14 hour work days....

I didn't know hurricanes were a republican thing.  Thought they occured in all administrations -- and all presidents dump federal money into hurricane states, also forest fire areas, flood areas, massive snow storm areas, earthquake areas.  They all do it...and cheese for the camera at the same time.  If they don't do they get accused of not caring.  When they do show up, they get criticized for playing politics with the suffering and loss of people.  

As for the rest, maybe we just need a war day and get it all over with at once.  Just have a day where anyone can do their worst to anyone they want to and can....and get away with it.  After that day, lobotomies for anyone involved in such things.  

Better yet, let's get all 190 Premiers, Presidents, Dictators, grand whatevers, in a big stadium armed with anything they can carry.  We tell the last guy alive OK You Win....and we can all go home and get on with the business of whatever life we choose to have.  

Maybe we could have peace for a day or so.  Maybe even a week.

Maybe we could even pay some attention to solving some of the world's problems that plague the ordinary persons in the world.  

Have a good week, all.

[Quiet Storm]

Here's a soundclip of HAARP that was played at Coast to Coast AM the Art Bell Show.

Win Media

http://mfile.akamai.com/5022/wma/artbell.download.akamai.com/5022/clips/04/09/091904_what_is_haarp.wma

Real

http://mfile.akamai.com/5022/rm/artbell.download.akamai.com/5022/clips/04/09/091904_what_is_haarp.rm
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I've had first hand experience of these frequencies in the astral. I can tell you that these frequencies are related to fear and pain. I'll tell you about one experience I had during a sleep paralysis episode.

....I became aware of myself on my bed. I tried to move but realized that I was stuck in my body and couldn't move out of its boundaries. I relaxed a bit because I wanted to see if I can acheive an OBE. Then, I began to feel eery and afraid because I realized that I could be vulnerable to any outside forces and not be able to do anything about it unless I wake myself up. I decided to stay longer and feel this way to see if I could just 'embrace' this fear. Soon thereafter like 1.5 seconds after I felt intense pain just creeping up on me pulsing with the SAME exact sound frequency that I heard on the first of those HAARP clips. Then a source of the sound frequency seemed to inhabit my body and pulse those sound frequencies from them. They felt like waves of pain and fear and the more I payed attention to it the more it stimulated this pain and the fear just followed. It stayed in my body for some 5 seconds until it reached my upper body when I just decided to wake myself up for fear of losing myself and of it invading or messing up my energy body. Besides all that it was an unpleasant and painful experience.

This happened like 5 months ago.

[Adam]

Not some pretty noises in there. It would really suck having that broadcasted continuously wouldn't it?

So how does it work?

[Quiet Storm]

yeh, it was quite painful experience.. at least energetically. I was in astral form, so I suppose when in the physically awake state the astral wouldn't be felt as much. And the astral is supposed to be the "feely" plane where desires and emotional vibes are created from, so of course all emotions I felt were more tangible... but this pain I felt... was just pain. It didn't feel emotional at all. At the source of this sound frequency that inhabited my body it felt like a ball with energetic spikes just ripping at my energy body and churning where it went. I don't think it is frequency that a human being can make. I think it definately originated from a machine and was not of my nature.

Well there are alot of sources on HAARP in the internet, the basics of it are in the soundclip I posted.

Here is one source I just came across which talks about "What the HAARP signal looks and sounds like". It has various information about HAARP. To tell you the truth I did not read it, I already know about what it does and it's effects on consciousness. It has another sound clip of HAARP also.

http://www.brojon.org/frontpage/bj1203.html

[Quiet Storm]

Al-Qaida would back Bush, says UK envoy

The Foreign Office was thrown into turmoil yesterday after the British ambassador to Rome, Sir Ivor Roberts, described President George Bush as "the best recruiting sergeant ever for al-Qaida".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1309097,0.html

[Adam]

This is some eye-opening stuff!

http://www.viewzone.com/haarp33.html

Goes into quite a bit of detail and research. I suggest people who remain doubtful check out this link.

[CaCoDeMoN]

This is getting more and more weird. 50 minutes ago we had a major earthquake in Poland, in city Suwalki it was scale 4.5. I live in town Dabrowa Bialostocka, 70 kilometers from this city, and my whole house was heavily shaking. I've never seen such thing, and in Poland there was no earthquake in at least 1000 years. I was seriously afraid, because my house is built like a bunker, and has 50centimeter thick walls, and I wouldn't be happy to see several tons of bricks falling on my head. Another interesting thing is that about 2 minutes BEFORE the earthquake there was a blackout in whole city.