The Astral Pulse

EDI's post - 24 AUG @ 16:47

A few words about my experience with the Zeta and telepathy in general.

When I normally talk to my guide Perena, I just hear the words in my mind. If I also pay attention to the 'visual' feeling on my inner screen, the voice seems to come from the upper right in front of me. I call the 'inner screen' the area in your mind where you percieve your own imaginations, where your daydreams take place etc., the space where you percieve with inner vision.

When I talk to several being telepathically, they occupy different places on this screen - my guide is to the upper right, and other being I talked to appeared to be at the left side - so it's easy to feel where the words come from.

I do not only get a faint visual image (faint because my inner perception is still developing), but also a whole set of feelings about whoever I talk to. The feeling I have with my guide is totally different of the feelings I had with the Zetas. At first the voice of their representative sounded metallic to me, but later it got quite normal. I perceived them to be a group of maybe 4-6 people, I had the 'image' of them in my mind, and I felt the presence of those who were not actively communicating with me. They had a diplomatic and sincere appearance, so the conversation had a formal and official feeling - I was missing the joking and teasing I use to get from Perena.

As I'll continue 'interviewing' the Zetas, I'd appreciate getting additional input from this forum - that's what it's all about: exchange of information. So whatever questions you may have, I will gladly include them in my sessions. This will not only help me to improve my skills as a 'interviewer' - I admire how Parmenion does this - everyone here will also benefit from this friendly interchange.

With love,
Edi

Chill,

quote:

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Can someone summerize the long posts for me, extract the juice out of it, the SUBSTANCE, in a list of points, say 1, 2, 3, etc. in plain english, so that the 5-years-old that I am can understand ?

For example :

1. One sentence here.

2. Another sentence here.

3. Yet another sentence here.

Wrap-up concluding statement here

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The header to this thread, which is still under construction, clear stated DON NOT POST - now that is a summary, in those few words, of what is happening here, and should be clear to any 5-year old.

This thread is being constructed specifically to enable members to follow what is happening in this topic, so existing material (that is specific to the issue of ZETA CONVERSATIONS and questions) from where it was originally in the TRUTH topic is being transferred here. This will also avoid having to wade through off-topic posts - and your post here does not include questions for the Zeta nor in-context observations on the Zeta Convversations, so is off-topic.

If you are having problems understanding posts in general, then it would be more appropriate to place your post in the CHAT section, or even in the Writers Corner.  If that is not the case, then I can only assume you are making some childish (or, at least, Chill-dish) disruption to what is a serious topic, and which by so doing makes it harder for members to take seriously or follow if such type of posts are placed in between matrial that is there to help people understand better from the information provided - and by your action here that seems to be the only sensible conclusion I can come to, since the intial post of this thread said specifically DO NOT POST.

As a matter of fact, in order to make the psot you refer to above (I assume it is that one, since you have posted here) took me 32 full hours to compile and format in the colours in order to make it as clear to follow as possible.

With Pleiadian Love and Light,
MAYATNIK

TAO
wrote 24 AUG @ 22:16)

Edi.. here are some questions:

1.What is in Baciului Forest in Cluj, Romania ?
(in roumanian: Padurea Baciului, judetul Cluj, Romania)
2.Why are in Baciului Forest so many UFOs and Alien sightings ?
(there are over 1000000 pictures of UFOs from Baciului Forest)
3.Do you control all astral projections ?
(what i mean is... for a person to be able to project does he/she needs some kind of acces from the Zeta?)

This will be enough for a start i guess,
Mike


SERENITY1
wrote 25 AUG @ 00:53

Hi Edi
I appreciate the diplomacy and work that has transpired through the telepathic skills that you guys have given yourselves so freely to at this most important time in the historical transitional event. I aplord your courage.

"As I'll continue 'interviewing' the Zetas, I'd appreciate getting additional input from this forum - that's what it's all about: exchange of information. So whatever questions you may have, I will gladly include them in my sessions. This will not only help me to improve my skills as a 'interviewer' - I admire how Parmenion does this - everyone here will also benefit from this friendly interchange."

I have come across some information that I (and others) would like very much to have a bigger perspective on. To save time explaining, I posted (http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6563) a web site address which has an article on UFO activity in the Solomon Islands which is attracting a lot of attention due to the fact the Australian Govt. sending 2000 troops to this one particular Island which has the most reported UFO activity.

On the thread Tayesin (Mark) makes mention in his reply that he calls these (UFO) entities the "Dark Ones". That been the case for the want of identifying them, then my request of you Edi since you have offered to ask our Zeta and Pladian friends (I am
still at the crawling stage with my pendulum, so am being left in the dust with the speed that you guys are moving, ) is :
Are the Zeta and Pladian aware of what is going on in the Solomon Islands and surrounding Islands? (I feel sure they are).

If they are, then what can we expect from these entities "Dark Ones"? Is their intent (being aggressive) going to be restrained. Is there anything they recommend we can do the neutralize what the Dark Ones are intending? Can we make the public more awar
of this situation and deception?

Any thing you might be prompted to ask regarding this would be very welcome Edi.
Thanks again to you and the guides you are working with.
Harvey

Hello Everyone,

Yesterday, exactly 24 hours before this post here, TruthSeeker had his very first contact with the Zeta, and an excellent conversation with them, during which the accent in the session was about the background to what the Zeta are all about and what is happening at this time and as we go forward from this point now.  The Zeta, Naren (Truthseeker's guide) and myself, all provide information in this session which you will find below, for the reader to now become more aware and begin to accumulate a storehouse of True Knowledge that will take the Earth forward to the giant leap in Mankind's evolution that is coming soon.

Truthseeker is shown in RED (often putting "Me:")
Naren is shown in ORANGE – ( also as N: )
ZETA are shown in GREEN
(I, MAYATNIK am shown in BLUE

TruthSeeker talks with the Zeta

MAYATNIK says:
Would you like to have a session for you to talk to the Zeta?
TruthSeeker says:
Yes I would really like to talk to them.
I feel like I've been standing still the last few days, walking in circles.
MAYATNIK says:
Do you feel ok now?
TruthSeeker says:
Yes I'm exellent.  All is very quiet here now.  Everyone's gone to bed, so ideal time.
TruthSeeker says:
You see I really want to learn more.. I feel like a door has been opened, but I'm only able to take a small peek inside.
MAYATNIK says:
The reason why you feel you've been "standing still" is because I've not been able to arrange this session until now – this is due to the fact that the events of the 17th affected you adversely by the suddenness and therefore shock as you witnessed the Zeta guide taking the visitor (whom I'd invited to our telepathy multichat) into an Astral Projection... and you simply had not been expecting that, hence they 'symptoms' that are often the side-effect of AP-ing episodes; particularly, in your case, the temporary loss of full teleapathic ability.
MAYATNIK says:
So, my guide Karek - as supervisor - and your guide, Naren, both wanted you to have some time to settle down again before we did a link-up with the Zeta for you, for which Karek is the facilitator.  They have decided that the time has now come, and that you are ready.
MAYATNIK says:
Have you talked to Naren about it?
TruthSeeker says:
No, I find it hard to get sentences..  (this is since the 17th)
MAYATNIK says:
Well that is what you need – to be able to receive sentences.  And that is why, also, that I am here in in these link-up sessions to ensure that you are accurately receiving, because I check througout with your Pleiadian guide and I am also in contact at times during the session privately with the Zeta.
MAYATNIK says:
The overall purpose of my 'monitoring' in this then, is to enable a presentation here on MSN Messenger that will make what is happening clear to reader  of the transcript, and to ensure its validy – since anyone could say they were in contact with the Zeta.
MAYATNIK says:
Let's do a session then............and you type everything that you hear, putting N:  before it.........and all that you say (to me and to Naren) plus your comments as well.
TruthSeeker says:
Ok
TruthSeeker says:
Me: Are you here Naren?
N: Yes
TruthSeeker says:
Me: I want you to tell me something, a sentence, any sentence. Could you do this now?
N: .....
MAYATNIK says:
So....... what do you hear?
TruthSeeker says:
Nothing.
N: You need to separate your own thoughts from my messages
TruthSeeker says:
A sentence like that shoots in when I'm not expecting an asnwer.
MAYATNIK says:
Exactly !!!
MAYATNIK says:
Stop trying.   There's no need to strain your ears all day long listening for any sound........and no need to strain your eyes peering into every corner........ you simply hear and see........you don't even have to think about it........
telepathy is just another 'sense' like hearing and seeing.
TruthSeeker says:
N: Yes I am at all times in contact with him (Mayatnik).
I do not recall me question, but it was an appropriate answer
TruthSeeker says:
N: You will do just fine now.
TruthSeeker says:
N: Just let go.
TruthSeeker says:
N: Yes there are infact "spaceships" around Pluto
Me: I just read about it and asked.
MAYATNIK says:
It is a good way to talk to Naren at any time you are reading information books...beause he can add so much more, and correct things that are wrong in the books.
MAYATNIK says:
So now.... can we do a Pleiadian 'Instant AP' to warm up before Naren makes the Zeta link-up.....
TruthSeeker says:
Me: Could you show me a picture?

A church, read brick-walls. Tall bell-tower. Sunny day. Green grass lawns, with big green trees scattered along the lawns.
TruthSeeker says:
It's somewhere in the U.S
MAYATNIK says:
You can go into any 'scene', and walk around.
TruthSeeker says:
Michigan or "Cincinnati" (Closest thing I can get to something that sounds like place)
MAYATNIK says:
It's a new style 'community' that is built around the church...... the church runs many things for the people..and it is like a min-town.
TruthSeeker says:
Are you talking about this particualr church?
MAYATNIK says:
Yes.... < ----- (I had mentioned it to give him confidence, which he needed)
TruthSeeker says:
Then you can see it as well...
MAYATNIK says:
Yes..... Naren sent it to me, for me to know where you are - but it is your exercise! ..... I am merely confirming here.
MAYATNIK says:
So, walk around......step into the picture......and just 'go'......Naren will be with you.........explore, and talk.......describe what you see and what happens by typing it.......you can be in both places at once.
TruthSeeker says:
Me: take me back there please, Naren.. To the church.

There is a dark basement. Lots of dust and spider-webs. On the outside the sun is shining. I want to talk to one of the kids runnining the street. It is a small boy with a red cap. His name is Bob and he tells me this is his home. Everything, the whole wown is centered around this church.
TruthSeeker says:
The priest is inside the church.. He has his own room in the hall at the back of the church. He is reading something. A parchment of some kind. He is taking notes on a paper.
TruthSeeker says:
The church has a lot of doves living at the roof. There are even doves inside the church, flying back and forth every now and then. A man is walking up hte street. He has a bowler-hat...It is the major of the city. He looks at me and walks away.
TruthSeeker says:
The city has a lot of nature around it.. Running streams of water. The forest has a "wet" feel. It is early in the morning. The major was on his way to work.
TruthSeeker says:
Most people are not up yet, but in half an hour the city will be awake. The children do not attend a normal school. They are taught at church. A woman is their teacher, her name is Sandra.
TruthSeeker says:
I left.....
TruthSeeker says:
N: You did good there.
MAYATNIK says:
Notice that you could 'feel' the wetness, 'know' about the man...... all those things, more than just seeing.
TruthSeeker says:
It was not an actual event.
TruthSeeker says:
N: It was a "scenery".
MAYATNIK says:
I call it a 'cameo' (an English expression).....Many of these such are 'presented' for a person in training – they are in fact also presented to ordinary AP-ers, for them to get 'experiences' and interact with 'situations', though AP-ers are not aware what the purpose is....for their level of awareness to be assessed usually, by those who 'create' the scene for the AP-er..   You, on the other hand, have a guide who accompanies you, and will sometimes explain these things
MAYATNIK says:
It'a moving picture of 'events'.....  on a 'stage-set' specially contstructed by the guides for 'exploration practice'.
TruthSeeker says:
N: At a deeper relaxation you will be able to move more "into" the picture. This can also be done in the relaxation-level you are at now, but it takes practice.
TruthSeeker says:
N: Typing long sentences or even keywords will help, as well as you can look back at it later.
TruthSeeker says:
N: Yes we can talk to the Zeta when you are ready, but you have some more questions to ask first.
TruthSeeker says:
Will talking to the Zeta be just like talking to Naren (exept the more polite/diplomatic tone)?
TruthSeeker says:
N: There will be a different "feel" to it, but as long as you "let go" you will be able to percieve then just fine.
TruthSeeker says:
Are you here Mayatnik?
TruthSeeker says:
N: Yes he's here
MAYATNIK says:
I'm here.
TruthSeeker says:
oh
MAYATNIK says:
I'm just watching – that's what Naren has asked me to do at this time, with the minimum of my interaction here, for a purpose..........you can ask Naren some questions about how it will be with the Zeta, and what Naren does about it.
TruthSeeker says:
N: I will connect you to Zeta through our "main-frame". You will be able to get a "feel" of the "persons" involved, as well as you will be able to talk to them.
N: Yes all of them can talk to you, but some of them are just observers.
TruthSeeker says:
Me: Tell me something about them(the Zeta)
The Zeta are located at a mothership. As Mayatnik has told you the ship has been provided by the Arcturians. They wil have a room of their own, but there will be others outside that room watching(No point in hiding it since you have allready read about it - gentle smile).
TruthSeeker says:
N: You forgot to include the "N:", that is very important for further reference. < ---- (This is a common practice for the guides to sometimes tell the person if a point needs to be stressed about something like this, and other things in their teaching and 'training' by the guide.
Those who say that it may be the person's imagination and not an external communication have not had a guide telling them off  (albeit they are always gentle in their remonstration) about something!  It is unmistakably not the person's own mind.
TruthSeeker says:
N: If you are ready we will contact the Zeta now.
TruthSeeker says:
Z: Greetings
Me: Hello Zeta Reticulans, I am pleased to be talking to you.
Z: The pleasire is on our side as well.
Z: You can ask us every question you would like.
Me: Tell me something of your home planet.
Z: We are scattered amongst many planets in this universe. We have no Planet that we can refer to as home more than anything else. We live in Planets with oxygen and we enjoy nature. We have large cities where we live our lives. The duities we perform are very varied. We are scientists and builders as an example. And as you must understand, some of us have been sent out here to assist you.
TruthSeeker says:
Me: Many people are afraid of you, based on wrong beliefs given by many sources. Is the reason for you being in contact with me now to share the knowledge of waht you really are?
Z: This is one of the reasons, yes. We have a job to do very soon on earth, and we need to convince people that we only wish to help.
TruthSeeker says:
Me: Abductions happen apparently, why is this?
Z: We "abduct" humans by escorting their astral body to our ships. There we perform "checkups" and we subconsciously provide the subject with information. This information can be realeased at our will, and with the subjects will, combined.
TruthSeeker says:
Me: There are six of you there in that white room, there are only one of you doing the talking with me. Why is this?
Z: As your guide, Naren, has allready told you: They are here to observe and be present.
TruthSeeker says:
Me: Tell me something about how your community works, is there a president or a King?
Z: At the top we have the Council. Several of the oldest and wisest of us sits there. This is where decicions are made. We do not however have an indirect democracy. Ever citizen of our community has his say, and desicions are based upon that.
TruthSeeker says:
Me: Why is it that all extra terrestirals I have heard of are "humanoid"?
Z: We are all the same. We are beings of Light and has developed from the same Source. We were once like you, but we have grown. How we look now is due to the choises we have made during history. We are masters of genetics, and have shaped our physical bodies as we see fit. Our body has no need for food, as it is energy-relyant and can "digest" pure energy.
TruthSeeker says:
Me: What will be your task here when the Pole Shift arrives?
Z: When the Pole Shift begins we will be on earth assisting those who accept it. After the Shift we wil walk amongst you and give you guidance and support. We will help you in starting communities once again, and we will ensure that the most beneficial actions are taken for you further well being.
TruthSeeker says:
Me: What will happen to the governments we have?
Z: They will fall, and it's members that did you no good, will die. New Government eqivilants will not be formed. You will be based on a Counsil that takes your decision, and you will have a "widened demoracy". You will be assisted in this both by us, and others.
TruthSeeker says:
Me: I can not find any more questions to ask you right now.
Z: That is fine. We are here to answer your questions at all times, and Naren will fix this for you.
Me: Thank you very much for your time.
Z: The pleasure is all ours
Z Be well
TruthSeeker says:
N: You did very well there. Do not worry about not having any more questions, there will be more time to ask them.
TruthSeeker says:
N: I am very pleased.. (big smile)
MAYATNIK says:
It was very informative for people
TruthSeeker says:
(Naren is dancing..)
TruthSeeker says:
N: What you did here aided the greater picture of things to come. People will be more prepared for what is coming.
MAYATNIK says:
These are some of the things that I learned when I was talking to the Zeta many years ago now, so you can see this Agenda for Earth is long-established.  People will now be able to learn what I was told.  At the time, I was told not to reveal those things, and that has been the case until now, until it became time - but there are now going to be a growing number who will learn telepathy and be able to ask on behalf of others, and write down what they and the zeta were discussing.  So, in this way it will benefit all.
TruthSeeker says:
*The Zeta is leaving the half-moon-shped table*
TruthSeeker says:
They wore blueish-white robes. Their appearance was very wise and trusting.
TruthSeeker says:
Their big eyes was very deep and there were a very strong kindness there.
MAYATNIK says:
It felt good to be there
TruthSeeker says:
Most certainly.
MAYATNIK says:
You can arrange with Naren on other occasions to talk to them and they will welcome your questions.
MAYATNIK says:
Because you will want to let people know this information, then this 'format' on MSN Messenger is ideal for this....... sometimes you can just make notes if you are away from the computer, and then write up your account later – even better, if you are not at the computer, to use a tape recorder at the time.......and people will benefit greatly from that..........You are an Emissary and representative of Humankind now.
TruthSeeker says:
How should I use this information?
MAYATNIK says:
The information is for all to hear about - and for now, can be published on the Astral Pulse on the thread.....I am here at this time to assist and write these first few posts.......
Naren will explain a little more about this, and what the plan is to expand from here.
TruthSeeker says:
Ok.
MAYATNIK says:
Can you type what Naren says about this now.
TruthSeeker says:
N: The plan is: Edward will finish what he is doing at the Astral Pulse. Then he will be given other tasks that does not include online guidance. He will be working with persons, and he will be the Base of where you will be "operating" from. He will still be around to help you. You will aswell be given certain tasks when it is time, but for now you should familiarize yourself with all of this.
MAYATNIK says:
The reason why I am 'monitoring' these sessions has in part to do with the presentation........a standard presentation that you and others will adopt as you get familiar with it... my task is also to ensure that the person gets used to the conversations and the way of working as easily as possible (this makes it easier for you at first) and also shows readers a much better overall picture.......
MAYATNIK says:
These transcripts will also be used for the 'teachers' whom I shall train, for them to follow the same patterns......this will achieve the maximum benefit for all.
TruthSeeker says:
I see.
TruthSeeker says:
Well I guess we have done what we were supposed to then.
MAYATNIK says:
Yes. It went very well indeed, and Naren has just agreed there.
MAYATNIK says:
That was excelllent work
TruthSeeker says:
#61514;
MAYATNIK says:
You will become familiar with doing this as you progress..........but for now Naren wants me to 'monitor' sessions to assist you also.
TruthSeeker says:
Yes I understand, and appreciate it.
MAYATNIK says:
You already have good confidence........but you will learn even more, easily and quickly, as you proceed now.
MAYATNIK says:
The Zeta are now, for you, literally only a 'phone call' away when arranged by Naren....... it is the reverse of "ET phone home"......because Humans are now able to phone ET.
TruthSeeker says:
heheh
TruthSeeker says:
Very exellent.
MAYATNIK says:
It is made especially simple all round, by using this Messenger format........and the Zeta tap on to MSN Messenger and spool it to their computer.....so that other Zeta can also read it afterwards.  This is very helpful for the planning and things associated with this joint-venture between the Zeta and the Pleiadians, because the Zeta have a log of the Messenger conversation with them.
MAYATNIK says:
very helpful  to all, in this stage now to build a real friendship with those who will be assisting Earth in preparation for the coming Pole Shift, and afterwards.
TruthSeeker says:
Yes I see the importance of this.
MAYATNIK says:
We have done enough for tonight.........so have you any further questions before we close this session.....?....to myself or to Naren at this time.
TruthSeeker says:
No questions that I can think of.
I should probably go to bed and get some sleep before classes begin in four hours..
Good night Mayatnik, and thank you for everyting.
MAYATNIK says:
You need your sleep........and know that Naren is there all the time, to talk to you.  I will see you tomorrow.......so in the meantime Goodnight and sleep well !
TruthSeeker says:
Love and Light
       and
     Be well
MAYATNIK says:
Love and Light
MAYATNIK says:
The Seeker has found the Truth !
              Be Well

----o----

Congratulations to TruthSeeker on his first conversation with the ZETA.  So, yet another person becomes an Emissary to the Stars, and a Representative of Mankind in the shape of things to come.

With Pleiadian Love and Light,
MAYATNIK

NOVICE
wrote 26 AUG @ 16:09

I'm curious about something. I'll premise this with the statement that I'm not one of the UFO wathcer types. I do believe in intelligent life on other planets and that alien races have visited the earth. But I don't subscribe to a lot of the hype and sensationalism that is written. ANd I've never personally had contact with another being (that I'm aware of). Has anyone met any of these beings in the astral?

I had a really weird experience the other month involving a race of aliens, but I they aren't the typical 'greys' that everyone talks about.

I went lucid about a month ago or so and asked for a guide. Someone appeared with an object he called 'mother' that I understood to be some kind of computer device (never had that happen before). I told him I wanted a guide who could answer some questions about karma, past lives and the pendulum (trying to verify some information I'm receiving from the pendulum). He told me that I couldn't ask about past lives. I then asked if I could get answers about karma and the pendulum. He said yes and 'summoned' a guide. I've only called on a guide once before and his appearance was very different to this process and what I'm going to describe below. So I don't have a lot of experience with which to compare this.

Next I'm in a white room surrounded by a bunch of people, all of whom were sitting at stations, like desks. Except for myself and the guide, we were standing. For some reason, I felt the urge to ask if they were aliens (even though they all looked human to me). This thought stemmed from the pendulum posts and the numerous references to 'alien guides'. The guide reaches towards me and touches my forehead (3rd eye area). When his hand pulled away, I looked around and all of the people now looked like aliens, of the same race.

They were humanoid form, but their eyes were different. Instead of eyes, I got the impression of bright colored lights across their forehead. Sort of like a horizontal line. Not sure that makes sense. I walked through the room looking at each one and shaking hands with them (they all had their hands extended as such to me). But what I ended up focusing on was their hands. They didn't have 4 fingers and a thumb. Their skin was grey and they had, what I will describe as, two large fingers. The fingers were slighlty rounded on the back, and the front or underside was flat (meaning not rounded or curved) but slighlty wrinkled. As I shook hands with them, I would shake the bottom finger and then shake or rub the back of my hand against their top finger. I did this with many of the ones in that room.

The rest of this trip is equally strange and bizarre, but I'm curious if these fit the description of any of these 28 alien races that are mentioned in Parmenion's chat session? Or did the beings in the astral change simply because I questioned whether or not they were aliens? I do know that thoughts affect the astral, so I'm not sure which to believe. However, if Parmenion or Mayatnik could confirm whether or not this experience happened with one of the races, that would be a big help to me. Thanks!

KAZBADAN
wrote 26 AUG @ 20:26

Hello MAYATNIK! If all that stuff about aliens is truth, and if you can speak with them, so i have message that you could deliver to them. If they are really interested in preparing people for the "i don´t know what", you could tell them to show themselves (in ufos) to people in my city, that is very conservative. They could say a day and an hour, and them they would prove to me and to other people in my city that they are indeed real.

I´m not kidding. If they accept my idea, just tell me, because i must them tell you my real city (the one that you see in my description its not true).

LYNFER
wrote 27 AUG @ 00:16

have some questions for the Zeta:Why do they believe that their methods of communication and such are better than telepathy? Why do they choose to work in that way with us humans incarnates?

This question is to both races(pleiadian and Zeta) and the other races which wish to answer this: WHy if there is so much talk and feel of unity in the higher planes do they have all this different alien species? Why not a whole united species? I don't mean to offen any of these alien races with these questions I am asking. Do the negative beings also have ships?

Does anyone know what is happening on august the 27. I've been hearing a few talks about this partIcular day on the forum and it is also my birthday?

Hello everyone,

this information exchange we see beginning here is flourishing quickly... as more and more of us get proficient in telepathic communication, facilitated by the pendulum in the beginning, we will see much information coming through this 'door' which has now been opened. It is of great importance to note that everyone involved in these contacts has been trained specially for it to ensure greatest precision. In this regard, I have been appointed as the first Trainee Teacher in this program - under direct supervision by Mayatnik. I have the responsibility to ensure that accuracy is maintained at all times in the transcripts presented here ... so that the Truth Shall Be Known. This means it will also be my duty to train interested 'newcomers' to get a good rapport with their pendulums (and guides when they are assigned to them) and help with whatever problems may arise, until finally the 'link' is so stable and accurate that they can participate in this ongoing project.

I now present you the log of my latest conversation with the Zetas, in the known color scheme:

I, Edi am shown in RED (with 'E:' in the beginning)
Perena, my guide, is shown in ORANGE ('P:')
ZETA are shown in GREEN ('Z:')

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E: Perena, I would now like to talk with the Zetas about some things.
P: Okay... this will shed some more light on the situation everyone is in. Are you ready for the connection?
E: Yes, I am.
P: Good... then I'm connecting you now...
Z: Hello Edi.
E: I greet you. May I ask you some questions at this time?
Z: Sure. What do you want to know?
E: What is there in Baciului Forest in Cluj, Romania?
Z: The UFO-Activites there are directly related to us. Entrances to an underground base are located somewhere in this area.
E: Why there?
Z: The place is suitable because the geography and the historical development of the country made it easier to remain undisturbed than in more western countries.
E: Can I know what is happening there?
Z: It is one center of our east-european activities, from where we can contact individuals and governments/military.
E: How many people in the governments know of your activities?
Z: As few as possible, and as much as necessary. They military normally knows more, because it has the technical abilities to monitor our activities (to a certain extent). In the governments itself there are seldom more than 2 or 3 who are in contact with us (in each country). It will take some time for humanity to be open and ready for contact, at the moment it would cause a rather disturbing 'shock'.
E: Thank you for this information. The next question I was asked to give you is: do you control all astral projections?
Z: Of couse not. Everyone can astral project.. it is in fact only a shifting of the focus of your consciousness to a higher plane. If we want to contact someone via this method, we can get him into the right state by manipulating his electromagnetic field.
P: People themselves make it difficult by using so many methods and theories. It's good if you want to know exactly how it works at one point, but this can also build up mental structures which often hinder more than they help.
E: Thank you for this. The last question from others I have for you is about the Solomon Islands, near Australia. There's a lot of UFO activity going on down there.. are you in any way connected to it?
Z: No, we're not.
P: It's the Reptilians who are stationed there.
Z: We are of course not the only ones in possession of UFOs.
E: Do you know what is going on down there?
Z: Of course.
P: Edi and myself will discuss the rest of the related questions later.

( we talked about this later... see the end of the post for more )

E: Now I would like to get some details about your history.
Z: That's fine. Where do you want to begin?
E: Is there something in your history which can explain to us how you are today, and why you are this way?
Z: Indeed. We haven't been like today all the time. Our people once lived on a planed which was similar to earth. We had much vegetation and lived on the surface of a beautiful planet.
E: How did you look at that time?
Z: Our appearance was humanoid - in fact we and humans share common ancestors, and at that time we didn't differ as much as today.
E: Do also other species stem from these ancestors?
Z: We are talking about the Lyrans... they were one of the most early civilisations in this part of the Galaxy, and colonized many worlds over time. This is why they influenced many species.
P: For humans this was by far not the only influcence.. many others contributed here.
Z: When our world was colonized, we were a melting pot for many different lines of development of the Lyrans, so for a long time we had many conflicts. There were all sorts of polarities imaginable among us, even more than on earth. Always we had suspense and opposition among us, which often lead to those conflicts.
E: Did many wars take place on your planet?
Z: Yes.. but they were mostly only local and finished quickly.
E: Which significance do these conflicts have for your history?
Z: At that time we were much concerned about individuality, the own opinion was the most important thing... much fought for. We were literally carried away by our emotions. Too much. It became more and more difficult to find a common way to go. This ended in an atomic war.
E: This war came suddenly?
Z: No, it loomed about us long before... more than hundred of your years we had more and more tension, which finally let the situation escalate.
E: What was the result of it?
Z: Our ecosystem collapsed - not only most of the surface was radiated, also the vegetation couldn't keep up our atmosphere anymore, so very quickly (several months) life on the surface became almost impossible.
E: Didn't you have enough technology to save and clean the planet in order to colonize it anew?
Z: It would have taken much time - and there already were underground bases which were totally isolated from the surface and could save our existence for the next time. These bases were already populated when the war begun, and we thought "why don't we stay down here? This will be a totally new challenge". So we abandoned the surface and stayed in the underground, everything withdrawed to the inside of the planet, between several hundred meters to a few kilometers below the surface.
P: I think this part of your history is enough for the moment, it will be continued at another time.
Z: Yes.. Edi, your guide will want to talk to you about some parts of this and eventually make some annotations.
P: This is correct.
E: Do you agree that I post this transcript on Astralpulse?
Z: Yes. This was the purpose of this conversation from the very beginning on.
E: Good. Then I thank you, and will see you at the next session.
P: Thanks from my side to everyone, too.
Z: We're looking forward to the next session.. there's much left to say, we all are just at the beginning.
P: I'm going to terminate the connection now.

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Some notes about the Solomon islands and the Reptilians in general: I do not know much about them yet and what will happen or not... the book 'Bringers of the Dawn' does give some information about the role they play. On a general note, I can say that no major disruption of the 'plan' for earth will be tolerated by the Galatic Federation (a organizational structure with members from different planets all over the galaxy) which is watching over this development. Whatever will happen is intended that way, maybe like 'karma' on a larger scale - polarities merging, conflicts surfacing and worked out... not individually, but as a whole species. After all, we all are One - we and everyone out there.
To answer your specific questions, Harvey: The link given in the thread about the Solomon isles gives much accurate information and reports about what is going on down there - and many people all over the world are investigating such matters and trying to get them public, the problem is not that too less work would be done on this... it is just not yet time for the general public to accept all this stuff, it will take time to slowly surface. This may also answer the question of Kazbadan to some extent... if Zetas or other species wanted to show themselves to us now, they would simply do it. But it would not be right and not allowed to force this upon us. See, the information is there. There are literally thousands or millions of UFO reports, pictures, witness stories and so on... where does this all come from? The point is that nobody wants to believe it. People will have to embrace this reality by themselves... with gentle nudges into the right directions from time to time. This can take many years... but not forever.
We are taking steps here to put all those little puzzle pieces together, one by one.

Enough for now.. more is to come.

With love,
 Edi

h2oWONG
wrote 30 AUG @ 04:36

Ok, I must admit that I fail to follow the whole thread. So I just write down what I think.

If there is good, there will be bad. If there is Angel, there will be devil. Alien should both have good and bad. The problem is who is who.

Within cyberspace, everything is base on information. People will simplify to "source of information". No matter you are human or alien, there is no different. What important is the information you give out. Every source of information need to earn their credibility by the accuracy of what they have given out before. When information cannot be test immediately, credibility is considered to decide whether to trust the information or not.

The information that Zeta give out by now all cannot be proves or disprove. Pole shift~ only time can tell. Abduction~ 1/1,000,000 to have the chance to have a try.
Since information that Zeta give out cannot be prove by now, and their credibility hasn't build up yet. Trusting the information totally is not a good idea.

Instead of all those big secrets. I would to see more useful information. Information that normal human can work on. Like energy body development, nature of Astral Plane, earth history, etc.

Thanks

TAO
wrote 27 AUG @ 07:37

Nice post Edi.. and we my gratitude to the Zeta also..
Thanks for putting my questions into your session :)

Here are the next 3 questions:
1. Are dreams controlled by an alien specie ? (maybe them)
2. Is it possible to AP at request ? (eg: i ask you to ask the Zeta to AP me)
3. What is the link between the history of the Roumanian (or Transilvania) and the Baciului Forest ? (you said something in your last post about this)

This is all for now and thanks again :),
Mike

ADRIAN
wrote 29 AUG @ 20:31

Greetings Kazbadan

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Originally posted by Kazbadan

such "beautiful" (i´m being sarcastic: aliens don´t "feel good" to me) beings changes it´s life in the worst way. Read the posts starting in page 22 and you will find the refered post.

There are many ufo cases, direct contact with aliens or there ships, etc, that end in very bad ways.

You will see that aliens are not friendly...anyone: pleidians, arcturians, zetas, greys, etc,etc, they all are the same: astral garbage.

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I can understand your concerns,but, with respect, this is not H. G. Wells book and film "War of the Worlds".

Earth humans always see extra terrestrials as evil because Earth humans always judge beings and situations they do not understand as evil. In other words humans see these beings from other planets as a reflection of themselves. This is no different to religious people believing in "satan". People always anticipate the worst, it is a human trait.

Lets look at things from a Universal perspective. The fundamental meaning of life is for every human to ascend back to our creator, The All, the First Cause, the Prime Creator, God if you like through a process of enoblement over aeaons or time. When mankind evolves beyond the cycle of reincarnation, he has transcended his or her ego, achieved equilibrium of the elements and attained a certain state of pefection. The process of ascent then continues in the higher spheres, the Mental planes. Now, the Zeta Reticulans, Pleiadians and others must be far, far in advance of Earth humans on the path. They seem to have experienced their wars just as we have, but they are all behind them now. Another thing, why would a race who already live on multiple planets travel all the way here to do anything negative to this one? And finally, the most powerful force in the Universe is Unconditional love between all of the children of The All. The Divine essence of a Zeta Reticulan or Pleiadian is no different to an Earth human, we are all immortal Spirits and equal aspects of our creator. Therefore to treat the Zeta's or Pleiadians as different, or evil, or untrustworthy is no different to "white people" treating "black people" differently. The reason "whites" treat "blacks" differently or badly is for no other reason they are different which triggers a primitive human trait of mistrust or even hate. What I am saying is, try to look at the Zeta Reticulans, Pleidians, Arcturians and others through the eyes of Spirit and your Higher-Self, and not through the eyes of an incarnated human being. You might say, "what if the Zeta, Pleiadians and others are not as advanced and are therefore still have primitive ego driven traits like humans"? The answer is simple, they would not have the ability to travel across the physical Universe in huge space vehicles from places many, many light years away in earth terms. Please consider all of these facts.

With best regards,

Adrian.

Dear Kazbadan,

as you raised some legitimate questions, I'd like to shed some light on them... I will start this post by having a conversation with the Zetas about it, because this is about them. As always I use the known colour scheme:

Myself (E:) in blue,
my guide Perena (P:) in orange,
and the Zetas (Z:) in green.

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E: Perena, do you agree with me that I should let the Zetas themselves speak about the points raised here? I will comment on it later to give my point of view, too.
P: I agree in that, as this is the purpose of this thread now. The Zetas are willing to explain anything brought forward. Your own thoughts about it will further clarify things.
E: Good. Can you then link me up to them?
P: Here we go.
Z: Hi Edi. We were watching the thread and will gladly comment about it from our point of view.
E: Thank you. I'd first like to cover why you don't show publicly.
Z: Let's look at what would happen. Imagine we would take one of our crafts, land in a big city, get out and give out flowers to everyone. This would bring some serious problems with it. First: The government would immediately do everything to suppress it, as they always do.
E: Why would it be a concern to the government?
Z: The governments (i.e. the people behind it) are anxious to control everything. Because they have no power over us, they would try with all means to regain their absolute control, regardless of possible losses... many people 'disappear' because they know too much. The one who directs and controls information is in power.
E: That's intelligible. This would mean the appearance would be put down, witnesses be silenced and the whole story ridiculed?
Z: Most probably.
E: Okay... what else?
Z: Go around and tell people you just have seen an UFO. What do you think their response would be? Most of them would declare you crazy. The second and major point here is: People DO NOT WANT TO believe in this.. and if their are confronted with it, they react with fear and would try to explain it away somehow. Whether you have pictures/videos doesnt matter, because people feel GREATLY uncomfortable about the idea of UFOs and aliens in their mind. Their whole view of the world would be shattered in pieces, causing much confusion and disturbance - and we are not allowed to do that. This would be forcing something on humans mind, which is against the rules.
P: We are talking about the 'common man' here.
E: So under what circumstances would you appear publicly?
Z: If nobody was interested in it, we would have no problem with coming down. There will be a time when we will be seen freely, but it is not upon us to decide when. The third point is that such a forcing appearance without doubt would cause chaos not only on an individual scale, but also on a greater scale... everything believed to be true by society, religion, science etc. would be wiped away at once. Do you see now what could be the result of this?
E: I do... I let it to the reader to ponder upon this.
Z: Good. Do you have any more questions? I think you have...
E: Do you expect people to just accept what you say here as true and that's it?
Z: Absolutely not. First and foremost, we want everyone to use and develop his common sense. This means neither swallowing it by 'blind faith' and acting by it like a sheep, nor rejecting it inconsiderate because of 'blind fear'. What we offer is information, in dialoge format. We do not promise to tell you exactly what will happen, though... only as far as you should know.
E: But you do tell the truth? What about May 15th on Zetatalk?
Z: We invite everyone to find out by himself why this specific date was given. We give a little hint: everything is on the Zetatalk site. Combined with common sense (again) you will gain a bigger picture.
E: Do you just give us anything which could be true or false and say 'use common sense'?
Z: No. We do give accurate answers... but many people miss understanding on how to deal with them. We will want to talk about it later, but for now we let it for the reader to find his answers in this regard. With this, we should end this session if there are no more questions from your side.
E: I don't have any more questions at the moment.
Z: Okay. We will come back to other topics later, but at the moment (in the next few conversations) we primarily want to state what we are giving you and how to deal with it.
E: Good... I will contact you as appropriate.
Z: See you then.
E: Bye

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So you see what their opinion on this is. If you accuse them of being liars and dangerous because some people made wrong decisions... well... think about it. For the moment, I have nothing more to add, but I'll appreciate your response and be glad to address your concerns as this develops. It's important to state clearly what everyone expects of this... we all make implicit assumptions in some or other way, that's where communication difficulties originate from. I intend to discuss these things in a calm way ... in order for everyone to gain a broader perspective and more understanding.

Love and Ice Cream :)
 Edi

h2oWONG
wrote 30 AUG @ 04:36

Ok, I must admit that I fail to follow the whole thread. So I just write down what I think.

If there is good, there will be bad. If there is Angel, there will be devil. Alien should both have good and bad. The problem is who is who.

Within cyberspace, everything is base on information. People will simplify to "source of information". No matter you are human or alien, there is no different. What important is the information you give out. Every source of information need to earn their credibility by the accuracy of what they have given out before. When information cannot be test immediately, credibility is considered to decide whether to trust the information or not.

The information that Zeta give out by now all cannot be proves or disprove. Pole shift~ only time can tell. Abduction~ 1/1,000,000 to have the chance to have a try.
Since information that Zeta give out cannot be prove by now, and their credibility hasn't build up yet. Trusting the information totally is not a good idea.

Instead of all those big secrets. I would to see more useful information. Information that normal human can work on. Like energy body development, nature of Astral Plane, earth history, etc.

Thanks

ADRIAN
wrote 30 AUG @ 19:20

Greetings Novice,

First of all, reasoned debate and question is not stirring up trouble; they are some of the reasons these forums exist. Please do not be influenced by what happened to "goingslow", he overstepped all boundaries of what is acceptable on these forums in the space of two posts. It is extremely important these questions are asked and answers provided. This is one reason I very much welcome these contacts with the Zeta. We can only guess as to the answers, the Zeta can provide answers when asked in a Spirit of cooperation. I would like to organise things here so all transcripts of communications with the Zeta are in context and in chronological order.

With regards to your question:

quote:

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Originally posted by Novice

Adrian-
I agree with your entire post, except for the last few sentences. To me, technological advancement does not necessarily mean spiritual advancement. So, in theory, they could be at the same spiritual evolution as humanity, but simply much further advanced technologically speaking.

But I get your point, not trying to stir up trouble!

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I certainly agree with you in principle. However, even mankind is beginning the Spiritual ascent slowly but surely. There are increasingly more "Ascended" humans in the higher/inner spheres, lower densities who, through hard work upon themselves have progressed beyond the cycle of incarnation and now assist mankind. If this progress is extrapolated forward a few millions of years, one would think a large proportion of the race will have "Ascended". Of course, we have no real concept of the entire scale of things. We know we have been evolving for several millions of years and the average human has achieved a state of development equivalent to the fourth level of the plane of the human mind out of seven. The most advanced are into the fifth plane, with the most advanced, the adepts and Masters the sixth and seventh planes and even beyond. This is the destiny of all mankind, to achieve these levels and beyond. What we d not know is when the process comes to an end on Earth, i.e. when new Spirits are no longer incarnating for the first step on the path. Maybe it is an infinite process but I don't think so; there must come a time when the physical planet has outserved it's usefulness, and it is possible this might even happen at the time of the pole shift.

The point is, The Zeta Reticulans, Pleiadians have followed exactly the same path but are millions of years ahead in temporal terms. It is logical to assume therefore much of their race must be highly advanced upon the path. The question therefore is are the Zeta in physical incarnation in order to operate in the physical Universe, or is their race still in the same cycle as Earth but millions of years on? Either way, there must be many highly advanced Zeta in the lower densities, higher vibrations, equivalent to our Celestial or Cosmic planes, who are guiding the ascent of their own and other races. So yes, your question is valid, physical development does not necessarily equate to Spiritual development, but with respect to the Zeta in communication here, we simply do not know the answers to this question.

Thank you Edi for your recent questions and answers with the Zeta.

With best regards,

Adrian.

CLANDESTINO
wrote 30 AUG @ 21:47

Hi there Edi ! hope you are well.

quote:

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E: But you do tell the truth? What about May 15th on Zetatalk?
Z: We invite everyone to find out by himself why this specific date was given. We give a little hint: everything is on the Zetatalk site. Combined with common sense (again) you will gain a bigger picture.

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Have you looked at the zetatalk site to gain more understanding on this issue ? I admit that I know little about the subject matter within this thread, so I'm not really in a position to find out for myself. But this particular point does interest me.

Kind regards,
Mark

ADRIAN
wrote 30 AUG @ 22:56]

Greetings,

The best place to look for the latest information in view of the non-appearance of Niburu on May 15 is on the "What's new" pages of Zeta Talk:

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/z03.htm

This post of 23 May on ZetaTalk, seven days after the non-appearance might provide some clues:

As can be seen from the actions of the US and Indonesian governments scant days ahead of and continuing after our announced date of May 15, 2003, they fully intend to harm hundred of millions of their citizens through martial law, declared such in Indonesia and called terrorism level Red by Homeland Security. What is martial law, if not ordering citizens to remain in their homes? What effect does this have on citizens about within cities where buildings will tumble and crush them, or along coast or in lowlands sure to be inundated by tidal waves? Death, injury with no rescue, and massive dieoff. Is this the intent of those in command in those governments, sworn to protect their citizens and collecting taxes to this end? There can be no doubt, and one has only to read the actions of these governments to ascertain this.

Why did we allow Nancy, who has labored though the mine field and put herself at risk with ZetaTalk, to be so humiliated as to announce to a broad audience live radio show very specific dates, which were promptly missed? At a time when Planet X is so close as to be competing with the Sun at noon, visible by the unaided eye, and well tracked to this point by many sunrise and sunset sightings and photos, in the manner and in the time frame we predicted, and at a time when earthquakes have increased to the point, as we predicted, to being noticeable, affecting population centers so they cannot be denied by underreporting in the quake databases, the bad dates stand as an exception. And what is the effect of this gambit, an acknowledged white lie on our part, on those in the US and Indonesian governments who would murder their citizens by the hundreds of millions?

They cannot closely coordinate blocking a city for a specific date and time, thus having to either order a perpetual state of readiness or be prepared to muster a quick blockade, neither workable.
They must either share the true agenda with numerous local agencies, in order to have cooperation for a quick muster, or anticipate failure when calling a sudden and unplanned blockage.
Local agencies would be sympathetic to the local populace and rebellion would likely ensue.
A perpetual state of readiness requires agencies to be focused only on exercises, and not distracted from their regular work, and any natural disaster ensuing would shatter this state.
Natural disasters such as imploding buildings in the stretch zone, or strong quakes or volcanoes in compression zones, would divert resources from the ready status waiting to blockade cities.
The governments increasingly have to explain the perpetual state of readiness, constant exercises, in the face of a lack of actual terrorism, thus losing credibility among those required to carry out a blockade.
Incidences of natural disasters, and increasing visibility of Planet X, change the focus from tearooms to natural disaster and thus an order to remain in their homes would seem inappropriate to citizens, who would rebel.
And what is the effect on the common man, being denied even at this late date any honest information on what is about to devastate their lives?

For those waiting for an undeniable sight that the earth changes we have predicted, rotation stoppage followed by red dusting will be that undeniable sign, and any announced date ignored until such signs are evident.
For those wanting to leave for a safe location ahead of rotation stoppage, but having ties to their ordinary life and obligations, rapid earth changes such as earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, as well as a perceptible slowing of rotation, will be their clue, regardless of published dates which are not palpable.
For those who have made very early changes in their lives, moving to safe locations and settling in there, an exact date is not crucial.
For the vast majority of mankind who has not even heard of a possible pole shift, announcing dates is irrelevant.
For the large portion of humanity who cannot move to safe locations or make changes in their lives, as their lives are a struggle for subsistence on a daily basis, announced dates are irrelevant.
For those who are traveling, for work or pleasure, they have chosen to be out and about at this time, or to place themselves in such a position by their employment choice, and thus are not taking the message seriously, nor would they despite any announced dates.
Thus, an announced date, where it would be convenient, does not change the outcome of preparation for the common man, where it would greatly be used by those who would murder their citizens, or take advantage of others, and thus we decline to give any dates. Watching the earth changes, and the behavior of those in the corridors of power, will be the best clues.

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Z: Of couse not. Everyone can astral project.. it is in fact only a shifting of the focus of your consciousness to a higher plane. If we want to contact someone via this method, we can get him into the right state by manipulating his electromagnetic field.

P: People themselves make it difficult by using so many methods and theories. It's good if you want to know exactly how it works at one point, but this can also build up mental structures which often hinder more than they help.

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This conversation perhaps hinted at a more natural or simple approach to having AP's. Could someone in contact with the zeta or a guide please ask if an explaination addressing the shifting of the focus of your consciousness to a higher plane resulting in an AP in the simple way described by the zeta, can be made available.

E: Perena, would you please connect me to the Zetas?
P: Yes... here.
Z: Hello.
E: I greet you! Are you ready to answer the next bunch of questions?
Z: Yes, but we'd first like to comment on the situation in the forums. It's sad that there was so much tumult lately, followed by the exclusion of one member. You all and the administrators decided how do deal with that, and we won't comment on it, you made your decisions there. But we are pleased to see that things have calmed down now and these conversations along with related discussions have found their own place in these forums now - hopefully undisturbed and open for questioning and discussion. We'd like to thank everyone involved in making this possible. Good.. what are your questions for today?
E: The first thing is regarding your methods of communication. Do you believe your methods of communication are better than telepathy?
Z: No. I can understand this question as it looks like we chose astral projection/trance/dreams etc. over telepathy. This choice depends not only on the technological possibilites and abilities of our species, but also on the job we are doing here. We like working with these methods because it gets us 'closer' to the persons involved.
E: Why do you want to be communicating that directly with us?
Z: Because in these states you are normally fully aware of what happens, showing all your natural responses.. emotional responses.
E: So you are interested in our emotions?
Z: Yes. We lost our emotionality in the course of our history, that's why we're studying it now with you.
E: And you couldn't experience that using only telepathic means?
Z: Exactly. And what's more, abductions can't be done easily telepathically.
E: So you do have a sense of humour? Doesn't that require emotions?
Z: We are able to learn... we have an idea of emotions, but otherwise you could call us 'cold'.
E: Next question: Why are there so many different alien species?
Z: Because our creator loves diversity... this universe is much about experiencing differences and polarities. Life evolves differently in varied conditions. And it's good that way, because we experience life by going through contrasts.
E: Could you explain the last sentence further?
Z: Of course. Take our perception as an example. If everything looked the same, we couldn't discern one thing from the other. Our experience of reality is based on contrast and differences in appearance. Individuality and personality are also key elements of
experiencing life. You give your life meaning by chosing certain things as your habits, dressing in a certain way, etc... so is the purpose behind this universe to experience one's own self by taking on different 'masks'.
E: If there is much talk of 'unity' in higher spheres, why isn't there only one whole united species?
Z: We Zetas are united in the sense that we have common goals and stem from the same origin. You, the humans, are totally different from us - but we are united in a sense because we come from the same origin. We can all be united while still retaining our individuality.
E: So unity in the sense of only one species existing would be boring, wouldn't it?
Z: Exactly. We all evolved away from that point, we came from unity to experience differenciation and separation. The goal is to unite while staying individual, keeping the experience of past individualizations alive.
E: Are you offended by such questions?
Z: Naturally not. And we're here to answer anything you might be interested in.
E: One person would like to know: 'Do the negative beings also have ships?'
Z: To answer this question, we first have to get clear concepts. Beings or species are not just plain negative or positive and that's it.
E: There was a discussion here about aliens just being evil.
Z: Yes. We know the content of this board. It's true that some beings appear negative. This does not mean they are inherently evil, but because they still have to learn certain things in some respects. And this learning can occur in many ways, mostly by confrontation. And yes, such beings can also have ships.
E: Is technological progress ultimately connected with spiritual progress?
Z: Not directly. One does influence the other, and certain technologies do require a degree of spiritual maturity in order not to be misused. There are many factors playing in this. You can easily imagine examples where one has more emphasis... for example a race
developing spiritually without using technology at all (or barely), or a race which has certain advanced technologies but still lacks important spiritual characteristics regarding superiority to others, respect, and so on.
E: Okay, thank you for these answers. Then I'd like to go to the next 3 questions... how does the history of Romania link to the Baciului Forest we talked about already?
Z: Primarily we want to remain undisturbed. Because of the economic development this country is not so swamped with devices which emit or disturb electromagnetic fields... these could probably be detrimental to the proper functioning of our technology (inducing trance works by influencing the natural field of the human body).
E: Okay... and the government?
Z: Yes, you could call it repressive over long periods of time. Although we don't support repression and dictatorship, this made it possible for us to establish whatever we needed without catching too much attention by inquiering minds.
E: Thank you. Next question: Is it possible to astral project at request?
Z: People put much attention on astral projection. We're not here to give fun trips, especially not if it's an ability every human does have, only conditioning and patterns in the mind being the cause of not being able to astral project easily by just 'doing it'.
E: Are dreams controlled by an alien species?
Z: We (and others) can give you certain scenarios to experience while dreaming.
E: Are all dreams controlled this way?
Z: We do not control all dreams. A sleeping mind may also wander on its own.
E: Thank you for these answers. Do you have anything to add following these questions?
Z: Yes, regarding the May 15th prediction and the text from the Zetatalk which was posted here. We wanted you to find this, it explains why this date was given. And there is much more to be found on Zetatalk. Regarding what to look out for.
E: I think that site will give readers some foundations until thing get really rolling here?
Z: It's not necessary that you study it thorougly, but you may find interesting things there. We don't require readers here to know what's on the zetatalk site, and will gladly cover any questions here. This is all we wanted to add.
E: Then I thank you for this interesting session.
Z: We're looking forward to having more of this.
E: Bye!

Hello everyone

I have some questions as well.
The Zeta mentioned they lost their emotonality during the course of their history? How can you "lose" your emotions???
Also, the people who are in  touch with them say they are loving beings. How can they "feel" love, be love, give love if they are empty from all emotion?

Malvina

I don't want to seem like a skeptic even though I am having difficultly going alone with the alien aspect of all of this.  There are a few questions I feel are very important that either have not been asked directly, I missed some place, or I feel they have not been accurately answered.

Why the Astral Pulse?  And why now?  Is it important in some way that the members here have access to and evaluate the information being given?  Or are "they", the Pleiadians and Zetas, looking for interaction with key members?  Or is it simply that the "pole shift" date is getting close enough to warrent the more open conversation?

Also the mention of these "dark ones" has peeked my interest.  Is the interaction with the Zeta's here a possible reaction to interference from these "dark ones" of members of this board?  This being questioned because of the arrival of the Zeta's after a steady increase from people reporting various forms of negative entities and shadow forms.  Is there a relation between what many here have experienceed and the "dark ones"?  If so what actions can we take?  If not do they know the reason for the increase?

I have a whole slew of questions that I would like responces to but I will hold it at that for now.  I am very much interested in the reactions of the Pleiadians and Zetas on these matters and look forward to thier responces.

E: Perena, should I post a frame like this every time, asking you to open this connection to the Zetas?
P: Yes... it's important to see that this all has structure and is not just some idly typing. Your new way of structuring these posts with the quote of the actual question in between is a good idea, let's see how it looks in the end.
E: It seems to be better... let's see how I will format it. Can you link me up now?
P: Here we go.

Z: Hello Edi.
E: Hi there. I have prepared a set of new questions for you to answer. Do you want so say anything in advance?
Z: Yes. We like the way things are evolving, members are putting forward their own questions to be answered. There is not so much discussion going on at the moment because we did not give through much information yet. Please note that most if not all of this information comes upon request from members, only from time to time should we point to topics that we would like people to think about.
E: So every teaching and dissemination of information is because people actually ask about it in the first place?
Z: Yes, most of the time. It would be sufficient to say 'wake up and find everything yourselves', but questions deserve to be answered. Good. Can we begin with the questions now?
E: Yes.

Tab: I've had dreams the last two nights about aliens. Weather this is just me filling my head with all of this crap, or it actually relates to these scenarios somehow, is unknown to me. I wonder if Zeta has anything to say on that :/

E: Does talking about this crap (are you offended by this?) have an influence on our dreams?
Z: We're not offended, we understand the meaning behind it. Yes, it does have an influence, partly because the conscious mind wants to know more about this, and partly because the subconscious mind can then bring about situations which are related to this. Hearing about such things actually brings the mind in the right state to accept them and be interested in them.
E: Do you want to comment on members experience, like everyone asking if you have something to do with them?
Z: We will comment where it is necessary. On a general note, all we have to say to someone we can say to him in dreams, but if he wants to know how to relate to it, we will gladly answer specific questions. This forum is about personal experiences as well as things which affect us all at the same time.

Lynfer: And have they been working on me in my dreams? because I had one in which I saw a UFO?

E: Do you want to comment on this?
Z: Not in too great detail - if you see an UFO in a dream, consider it as 'information' in the way that you open to the possibility of it. We do much work by putting thoughts and information contrary to popular (mis-)believes in peoples minds, for example (as you, Edi, already have heard), we watch the media and may counterbalance them this way. We are seldom working intensively on a single individual, but we often give out information by dream situations... this can happen to everyone.

Malvina: The Zeta mentioned they lost their emotonality during the course of their history? How can you "lose" your emotions??? Also, the people who are in touch with them say they are loving beings. How can they "feel" love, be love, give love if they are empty from all emotion?

E: We stopped at this point in your first 'history lesson' you gave...
Z: Yes. And we will gradually continue. After we were underground, we saw what situation our emotionality brought us into. So it was a conscious decision and our own will to not pay much attention to our emotions anymore. We became mental beings, this means we put much emphasis on mental capacity. Our heads grew bigger and bigger, this made it more difficult for our females to give birth to our children. More on this will follow later, but let me now comment on the emotions. If we are considered 'loving beings', then it is because we do care about other people, but not on an emotional level, more on a mental level.
E: Can you feel any emotions at all?
Z: Not really... we can percieve them, and we know them intellectually, we can relate to them, we can analyze them, but our bodies do not provide the necessary faculties anymore to enjoy them to that extent you do.
E: Do you relearn emotionality by watching us?
Z: Yes, slowly... we can understand better by watching emotions, but it is very difficult to relearn because at some point it's just beyond our capabilities.
E: What about the last sentence of the above question?
Z: It's simple: we cannot. We can be love, but we cannot feel it. Love in a wider sense is the carrier of life.
Z: You just searched the text where you read about love... yes, love is what makes up the universe. A stone is made of love even if he has no idea about it.
E: Thank you for these answers so far... on to the next:

Cainam Nazier: Why the Astral Pulse? And why now? Is it important in some way that the members here have access to and evaluate the information being given? Or are "they", the Pleiadians and Zetas, looking for interaction with key members? Or is it simply that the "pole shift" date is getting close enough to warrent the more open conversation?

E: That's a good question... why here?
Z: Because we reach many people. The main thing you see is that about metaphysical and spirit issues there are lots of different theories, methods, approaches and so on. So we see here a place where all those opinions and experiences meet. It is time for those to merge and form a bigger picture everyone can relate to. It is not our intention to 'spread the truth', because you can only find truth by examining everything on your own. So part of what we would like to do here is to help everyone review what he knows and is believing in.
E: Why now?
Z: Because this is a time of much conflict, calling for comprehension and understanding. Many conflicts and misunderstandings will have to be resolved in the upcoming time, more than ever before.
E: Are you looking for interaction with key members?
Z: There are no key members. The people you see writing texts like this do so because they want to. Everyone is important - nobody is special, if one is more involved than the other it can look like it, but this is wrong perception.
E: And the last question above?
Z: The pole shift date is getting closer every day, but open conversation is indeed what's necessary. There is much open conversation on this board, and we hope this continues this way.
E: I just looked in the dictionary and now understand the word 'warrant' ...
Z: That's necessary. So, there is a plan about when we do which things. Open conversation with everyone is part of this plan.

Cainam Nazier: Is the interaction with the Zeta's here a possible reaction to interference from these "dark ones" of members of this board? This being questioned because of the arrival of the Zeta's after a steady increase from people reporting various forms of negative entities and shadow forms. Is there a relation between what many here have experienceed and the "dark ones"? If so what actions can we take? If not do they know the reason for the increase?

Z: Not directly. People are controlled and live in fear all over the world, this place is not different, only that people here are more conscious about it.
E: Do you want so say more about the 'Dark Ones'?
Z: Essentially they try to keep people uninformed, unable to inform themselves and in fear and confusion. 'What many here have experienced' - talking about 'negs', demons and so on: they can mostly only grip humans because there is something on their level they can hold on to. If you put fear and attack thoughts out against someone it's like giving them your hand.
E: Does this mean one should just live love and light and forget about negativity?
Z: Absolutely not. But in all this thinking of fear and defense, one should not completely forget about love... it is the best 'weapon' you have.
E: What actions can we take, and why do these experiences of negativity seem to increase?
Z: This 'negativity' was there all the time, but it is surfacing now, people are regaining their consciousness and their self-esteem more and more today. That's why all these things cry to be dealt with.

Tab: ... I wonder what the zetas have to say about stuff like this :/

E: The page there no longer exists... it's still in Google cache if anyone is interested, I have read a bit there...
Z: They have accurate information mixed with interpretations and misinformations. You would have to ask more specific questions.

Tab: ... what HPB experienced in the far east must have been pretty damn spectacular for her to want to come back and write books like she did about it. So, what's with that? Zeta also said that all our current concepts of God are off. I wonder if this includes the theosophic and vedic concepts of 'god' so to speak. I can't help but wonder how right or wrong HPB was in her writings.

E: I too wondered about what HPB (Helena Petrovna Blavatsky) wrote, and how it fits.
Z: She did know and see very much, more than she wrote about. Her teachings are accurate but need the proper key to understand everything.
E: What do you mean by key?
Z: Personal experience, perception, understanding. It is a long way to go to understand all HPB wrote about, if that is fully possible at all.
E: And our current concepts of God?
Z: Mostly based on past teachings of control and direction. We all are created and part of our creator, but not that we could actually meet him after death.
E: What about the theosophic and vedic concepts?
Z: They are a very good model. But more important is experience than models.
E: How can we experience god, or our creator?
Z: We and you are doing it all the time by living. We are 'god' experiencing himself. Do not think about it, you will see more and more by 'just living'.

E: These were all the questions I had ready for the moment. Do you want to comment more?
Z: Yes. You see how this flows easier and easier for you, Edi. But as it is much work to do and one person alone always brings in his own 'colouration' - not in the information itself, but in the 'feel' of it, and in the details of the wording - it will be much more inspiring when more will work on it later. We are looking forward to this, and in the meanwhile encourage every question and all discussions of it. This is all.
E: Then I thank you for this session, it proved to be very easy and flowing quickly.
P: Yes, you stopped worrying when talking about topics 'new' for you, or things you don't know much about. You can express it in easy language, and read more about it afterwards to build upon it or see more clearly.
Z: That's true. We thank from our side and say goodbye until the next time.

Hi
Thanks Edi
and thankyou Zeta for the infomation.
I'm really interested in and would like to learn more about what the Zeta have said about "altering the electromagnetic frequency" in conjunction with Phasing and Astral Projecting. I know (from what they have said) they are mainly interested in research and perhaps not the adventure as we tend to be more focused on.
And, what purpose do they consider Phasing to be used for?(can we do greater or perhaps different things than we now are awear of?)
I have learned recently that crystals have an electromagnetic frequency unique to each type of crystal. (though the Zeta are perhaps using this EMF in a different manner?) I have tried Kaynite under my pillow (laying on the right side) for about a week
d have had two positive and rewarding results that I can only attribute to the Kaynite since I wasn't trying any "method". I've basically given up on the methods and Brain Wave Gen. stuff as it has done very little over the past eight months, to activat
me toward Soul Travel.
(These are my personal expereinces and reflect no critisism on any individual on this forum, as I enjoy Astral Pulse and the wealth of knoweledge I've found here).

Love & Peace
Harvey

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E: And our current concepts of God?
Z: Mostly based on past teachings of control and direction. We all are created and part of our creator, but not that we could actually meet him after death.
E: What about the theosophic and vedic concepts?
Z: They are a very good model. But more important is experience than models.
E: How can we experience god, or our creator?
Z: We and you are doing it all the time by living. We are 'god' experiencing himself. Do not think about it, you will see more and more by 'just living'.

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Hi there Edi,

I dont know about zeta much but i found it interesting to read. May i ask some questions too? If i may here are my questions:

1. Do zeta have a holy book or a religion? I see that they believe that we are a part of god and i can accept it. That makes me think that they have some sort of belief anyway.

2. Do they have degrees amongs each other? I mean like in an army. Private, corporal, sergeant, lieutenant...

3. Do they trade? Do they have currency?

4. Do they die? Do they have funerals? Do they have religious festivals? Do they have traditions?

5. How do they count time? I mean 60 seconds makes a minute. 60 minutes makes an hour. 24 hours makes a day.

6. They say they dont need to eat. (Wish i would be that lucky!) Can they describe what kind of a metabolism they have in order to live. I think i need a scientific explanation. Also i wonder if they sleep.

7. Do they play chess? I am asking this because i played chess with computers all my life and i can understand if i am playing with a computer or a human. Because computers dont have feelings... And chess is not just a mind game but it is also an emotional game. You can win a game by just making your opponent feel like he is winning while he was losing the game. On other way the computers just calculate the moves and you must calculate better in order to beat your cpu opponent. They say they dont have emotions. So how about playing chess with a human. It may help them to relearn some emotions i think...

Well thats all for now. I hope i didnt accuse anyone with my questions...
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Cool questions, Birm.  :)

Yes Birm, great guestions!  I can't wait for the answers!

Nay. [;)]

Hi..i don't know whether it has been told..but i would like to know if the zetas Edi is in contact with are the same as those mentioned in Zetatalk. Have u developed telepathy when working with the pendulum?
When is the poleshift supposed to happen?

Greetings,

Regarding the pole shift there are two possible meanings:

1) A magnetic shift; i.e where the current magnetic north becomes magnetic south and vice versa. Scientists have discovered this has happened many times in Earths history and we are overdue for one now.

2) A physical pole shift, where the Earth re-orientates itself on its axis so we have a new position for the equator, poles and so on relative to where they are now.

It would be interesting to find out which of these is the case.

With best regards,

Adrian.

Hi Birm!

I've been reading some of the books on the Pleadians, and I think I might be able to answer some of your questions.  Now, the Pleadians and the Zetas are two different beings that work in conjunction with one another so I'm assuming they "worship" the same.

1. Do zeta have a holy book or a religion? I see that they believe that we are a part of god and i can accept it. That makes me think that they have some sort of belief anyway.

From what I've read, there is a Prime Creator who created EVERYTHING. He's similiar and very different from what we know as "god".  I'm not sure if they have holy book, but they do love (have a deep respect) him and he loves  everything back in return, for that is how he gets nourishment.  To the prime creator everything is his child.  

I'm not sure if that is completely accurate, but from what I've read that is how I understood it.

Hope that helps!

I'm sure Mayatnik or Edi can give you a more detailed and precise answer.

Tippa

In regards to the pole shift:

1. Will the pole shift happen naturally or will it be induced by an outside force (ex: one of the 28 different races currently watching over Earth)?

Dude, is this for real?   I'd like to see this going on, but I don't have telepathic powers.  I'm not asking anyone to give me such a fright in the middle of the night, impathic contact or dream, but if I could experience this like thru the radio or telephone that would be ok.  I mean, if one could interrupt the radio signal and contact me thru that one morning in the car, it would scare me at first, but I'd get over it quick.  I do, however, have one question for the Zetas.  Will peace prevail over the terrorism?  I'm getting sick and tired of the media hype over the war on terror and the mideast war.

1. What about Rael? Is he just a marionette to inform people about changes? Beacuse his ideas are a bit [:(!]..
2. Do they need to learn emotions for thir spiritual growth? Life cannot be lived without happines and joy.
3.When will occur some visible changes? I think I can feel them, but I want to see them. If they don't want to say the exact date, at least give us the year.

Greetings Mayatnik and other Zeta project members,

I have been given the following list of questions for the Zeta to kindly answer:

1. Do they operate in the astral and visit people here on earth?

2. Do they know about angels, negative spirits, demons, etc; and their
comments on these?

3. Do spirit entities have any physical limitations while operating close to the physical universe, eg, can they fly, pass through walls, rock, metal, plastic, live electrical cables, etc?

4. Do they have a good knowledge of the human energy body; and if yes how good?

5. Does every human have spirit guides assigned to them at birth; and if so what is the function of such guides?

6. What level of spiritual and metaphysical knowlege do they have; and do they have access to higher knowelge if necessary?

7. Are there any laws concerning the release of new knowledge to humans, including scientific, spiritual, metaphysical; who made these laws and how solid are they?

8. Are they aware of ET's in astral form visiting, studying and interfering with humans?

9. Are they aware of physical UFO activity on earth, including physical abductions

10. Are there both good and bad ET's doing 8 and 9?


The above are not my questions but some of them are interesting.

I would like to ask a couple of additional questions however of my own for any Q&A session on this;

11) Assuming the Zeta Reticulans are a much older race than Earth people, one would assume they are much more advanced along the path back to the "prime creator" "first cause" etc. is this actually the case? Also, why is it necessary for Zeta to still live in the physical Universe if they are indeed so advanced on the path as it is the objective of everyone, to evolve beyond the cycle of reincarnation.

12) How does the Zeta/Pleiadian mothership remain undetected from the resources of Earth goverments etc.?

Thank you very much!

With best regards,

Adrian.

Hi Adrian!

That's a bunch of good questions!

I just wanted to mention something to you...you asked "9. Are they aware of physical UFO activity on earth, including physical abductions".  I asked this same question once before and it had been answered with something along the lines of .."this topic has already been mentioned, please read then entire thread".  The only problem is that I can't remember which particular thread it was!  Anyhow... Hope you find it!

Tippa

Z: Hi Edi. We're seeing you prepared some questions for us?
E: Right. Is our connection good enough in order for me to receive the answers clearly?
Z: Yes. Maybe you need to ask for more details from time to time, but otherwise it's clear enough.
E: Good, then let's begin with the first question:

1. Do they operate in the astral and visit people here on earth?

Z: Here we say: Yes. As far as the popular model of planes is suitable to describe reality, we operate in what appears to you as the astral. We visit people both in the astral and in the physical plane.

2. Do they know about angels, negative spirits, demons, etc; and their comments on these?

Z: We know about those beings. There are beings which are termed by you as 'angels'. Those are partly seen as such because of wishful perception, i.e. perceiving spiritually advanced beings and their actions and putting them into the scheme known of religion. There is also an other, or more 'original' type of angel as it may seem, who may be in charge of certain 'administrative' functions as we may call it, but who is after all a spirit not distinct from others, so that we can conclude: what you call angels are normal spirit beings, not an own kind of entities.
E: What about negative spirits?
Z: There exist spirits with bad intentions. This negativity may represent a certain stage of these spirits' evolution, manifesting either deliberately or because the spirit may have no other possibility, which means that because of delusion or his past development he may be 'caught' in negativity, in the same ways that humans can be 'caught' in certain patterns of behaviour for quite some time.
E: And demons?
Z: Again, what you term 'demon' is no distinct kind of entity; it may often represent a spirit who aims to gain power by deliberately trying to influence and control others, with more organized powers and effort than normal 'negative spirits'. By organized powers we mean intelligence, knowledge, force, and assistance from others.

3. Do spirit entities have any physical limitations while operating close to the physical universe, eg, can they fly, pass through walls, rock, metal, plastic, live electrical cables, etc?

Z: They do have limitations but they can overcome these. As they move 'through' physical matter, the only influence or resistance they encounter are electrical cables or other objects which carry current. This current, i.e. the fast movement of the electrons through matter, obstructs and hinders movement of these spirits. In these cases, a spirit would have to find a way around the current, or manage to turn it off.

4. Do they have a good knowledge of the human energy body; and if yes how good?

E: I think this question would need a defintion of 'energy body'.
Z: We can give one such here which may suit. The human energy body is not perceivable to the untrained eye, but is felt easily. It is the body which contains the life-force, distinct from the astral body.
E: What do you mean by life-force?
Z: The force or energy which keeps the cells in the body functioning properly.
Z: We have detailed knowledge about this energy body, including it's anatomy and how it is influenced by physical movements and mental intent.

5. Does every human have spirit guides assigned to them at birth; and if so what is the function of such guides?

Z: No. Specific guides for specific persons are not assigned at birth normally. A common misconception about guides arises from the fact that often a group of beings watches about a group of humans. This group does not have an individual guide looking after a certain, assigned person, but rather one or more of the group of guides looking after all the group of humans on a rotating basis, to state it in another way: one spirit guide can look after several humans, but does not develop a relationship with them, and may be replaced by an other spirit guide at every time.

6. What level of spiritual and metaphysical knowlege do they have; and do they have access to higher knowledge if necessary?

Z: By what norm do you measure spiritual and metaphysical knowledge? What do you mean by higher knowledge? There are things beyond our reaching and our perception, but we do have access to knowledge which is beyond yours and which you may call 'higher'. As for spiritual and metaphysical knowledge, we know more than you do, but to what extent will need further definition from your side about what you see as levels of this knowledge.

7. Are there any laws concerning the release of new knowledge to humans, including scientific, spiritual, metaphysical; who made these laws and how solid are they?

Z: Yes, there are. Knowledge is released generally only if it does not interfere with the development of the human race.
E: What do you mean by 'interfere?'
Z: Such interference is constitued by an act or information which keeps humanity from evolving naturally and developing on it's own.
E: Can you give an example?
Z: If there is technology to clean polluted environment rapidly, before giving it to humans it is first considered if they actually want to have a clean environment. If they lack respect of nature, there's no point in making this technology available on a major scale.
E: Who made these laws?
Z: Generally, these laws are part of this universe. These are 'rules' which have been agreed upon when this place was created, to make it a place suitable for development of souls. There are organizations at each stage of development which ensure that those laws or rules are being followed.
E: Can someone break those rules, e.g. could someone of you just take some technology and bring it to us humans?
Z: This can happen, but an intervention of the species watching over earth would intervene to control the situation and limit it's effects to keep the disturbance minimal.

8. Are they aware of ET's in astral form visiting, studying and interfering with humans?

Z: Yes. We are such.

9. Are they aware of physical UFO activity on earth, including physical abductions?

Z: Yes, we are. Some but not all UFO activity and physical abductions come from the Zetas.

10. Are there both good and bad ET's doing 8 and 9?

Z: Both 'good' and 'bad'  are involved.

Greetings Edi,

Thank you very much, and please also thank the Zeta for their answers which make alot of sense and are interesting.

I have relayed these to the person who asked them, and there will be further similar questions in due course.

With best regards,

Adrian.

Thank you for the informations.  It is very valuable.  I would like to ask some more questions about God and Angels.

Who is God/the god that we know from bible and other religions?
Is he really God of universe?
Or a "middle level" god that look after earth?
Or just a group of different high level spirits that role playing god when human call upon?
When we call upon God.  Who will respond?  God of Universe? Or others?

So are Angels.  Are they spirits that role playing Angels.
Or there are a specfic group of spirits that use the name of God and Angels to care human?

And higher self?  Is higher self a high level me or a different spirit like guides?

How about buddhism?  How real is Buddha's teaching in spiritual development compare to the real situation of universe?

Thanks & Regard

E: There's a lot of questions remaining... do the Zetas want to continue this for the moment, Perena?
P: Yes they want to.
E: Then link me up, please.

Z: Hello Edi.
E: Hello - I already answered most of Adrian's questions, but I'd like to do the rest now, too.. nothing should be left out.
Z: We agree with that. Then let us begin!

Tab: Also, the zetatalk site claims that actual control of psychokinetic abilities by humans in this round is impossible, and psychokenesis only manifests randomly or is uncontrollably triggered. They then mentioned that Yogis were using simple tricks to imitate PK. I personally find this erronous, since I've myself seen and done PK with friends.

E: Can humans control psychokinetic abilities now?
Z: No. What they see being done is done by beings in spirit.
E: This means humans can't move something through their mind?
Z: We have to be more specific here. You can use your energy body to produce certain effects, as you heard for example that in ancient Japan a type of 'Chi Kung' was used to throw enemies at walls - this is different from making an object levitate. The latter is only possible by outside help.
E: What about Yogis?
Z: They do not possess supernatural powers, but they have gained great control over their bodies. There are tricks to make people think they see things, more or less difficult tricks. To address psychokinesis in more detail, more specific questions should be asked.

Michael_E: Could someone in contact with the zeta or a guide please ask if an explaination addressing the shifting of the focus of your consciousness to a higher plane resulting in an AP in the simple way described by the zeta, can be made available?

Z: This is not as easy as long as your mind is caught in patterns and conditionings after having lived in this environment on earth for a while. The simplest thing would be to get rid of all blocks and just AP by doing it - But instead, people come up with methods and theories which may eventually be able to push them out of their bodies after much effort. If you are completely free of fears and conditioning, your mind and body is not anymore forced to stay on the physical plane most of the time. Your consciousness is structered by certain patterns, which are stabilizing, but also limiting your experience. By developing intuition and feeling you may eventually be able to feel the different qualities of the planes and be able to focus your consciousness at will.

Serenity1: I'm really interested in and would like to learn more about what the Zeta have said about "altering the electromagnetic frequency" in conjunction with Phasing and Astral Projecting.

Z: The state of the human brain is linked to the electromagnetic waves it emits. As the brain controls the bodily functions, and the brain can be influenced from the outside (there was much research on this, and it is actively being done by governments), it can also be brought to a state of physical relaxation and a state very near to sleep, but still awake. This gets the focus away from the physical and bringe it into more subtle areas. It is worth to note that you can always work on all planes you exist on, but the consciousness is 'locked' in the physical body and information from the other planes is normally blocked, not paid attention to or put away as imagination. It's when your physical body sleeps and you only percieve the higher planes that you can see them more clearly.

Serenity1: I have learned recently that crystals have an electromagnetic frequency unique to each type of crystal.

Z: It could be likened to the following model: everything can be seen as energy; you can see it as waves which bear information by having certain frequencies mixed together. As you can record a tone of a music instrument into a well defined acoustic wave, the 'energy' associated, emitted or carried by a crystal carries a certain quality, some specific information. This can also include colour and emotion. Crystals influence the field of humans when brought in contact with it, as it reacts to the quality of the energy which surrounds the crystal.

Birm:  1. Do zeta have a holy book or a religion? I see that they believe that we are a part of god and i can accept it. That makes me think that they have some sort of belief anyway.

Z: We do not have a holy book or religion in your sense. You make a distinction between religion and science; for us science includes information about the universe, our creator et cetera. Your religious teachings have become distorted over hundreds of years.
E: Do you believe in anything?
Z: Our reality is shaped by our beliefs. We may chose to believe in certain things if it provides a good frame for our society.
E: Do you know everything?
Z: Far from it. We are maybe one step closer to it than you, but we certainly do not know everything. This is why we still have believes.
E: What are those believes about?
Z: Mostly about the nature of the universe. There is so much we are even just beginning to understand. As we discover and understand one part of reality, we discover that it's embedded in something even bigger.

2. Do they have degrees amongs each other? I mean like in an army. Private, corporal, sergeant, lieutenant...

Z: We have a hierarchy. We designate people for certain responsabilities they are well trained for, and we have a the concept of authority among ourselves.

3. Do they trade? Do they have currency?

Z: We do trade goods and services, among ourselves and among other species. We do not have currency, as the only cause for currency is that people only agree to work or give if they get something back. As our society provides for everyone what is needed for living and survival, and is based on service to others, we use no currency among ourselves.

4. Do they die? Do they have funerals? Do they have religious festivals? Do they have traditions?

Z: We do have bodies that we leave at death. We do not have funerals as such because our technology makes it possible to 'zap' away dead bodies. This may seem brutal to you, yes. We have ceremonies that honour the ones who pass away. As we have no religion, we have no religious festivals. We do have traditions passed along.

5. How do they count time? I mean 60 seconds makes a minute. 60 minutes makes an hour. 24 hours makes a day.

Z: Our concept of time is different of yours.
E: Is this easy to explain?
Z: No. But we can try. Time is mostly needed to organize, to structure. In the reality we are living in, we have different kinds of structures.
E: Do you have linear time?
Z: Our time is more subjective. It can be slower or faster and is not plain linear. We have sequence of events, but not this straight continuum you are used to. It is not easy for you to understand more until you experience this reality yourselves.

6. They say they dont need to eat. (Wish i would be that lucky!) Can they describe what kind of a metabolism they have in order to live. I think i need a scientific explanation. Also i wonder if they sleep.

E: Do you eat?
Z: No. We absorbe nutrients through our skin.
E: Do you have to take a bath, or is it enough to touch some 'food'?
Z: The most efficient is taking a bath in a solution containing what's necessary for our organisms. Assimilation by touching only partially is also possible, but much slower.
E: Do you need sleep?
Z: We need a few hours per week to rest, but we do not sleep in the way you do.

7. Do they play chess? [...] So how about playing chess with a human. It may help them to relearn some emotions i think...

Z: We know of the game of chess, but we do not play it. Maybe playing chess with a human is not the best way to learn of emotions. We prefer direct contact if possible. A chess game does not encompass the full spectrum of human emotions.

Ashen: Hi..i don't know whether it has been told..but i would like to know if the zetas Edi is in contact with are the same as those mentioned in Zetatalk. When is the poleshift supposed to happen?

E: Are you the same Zetas as on Zetatalk?
Z: Yes, we are.
E: Can you comment on the date of the poleshift?
Z: No. The reason for this has been stated before on Zetatalk and also on these forums. To give a rough estimate to you, maybe plusminus 5 years, is also not allowed.

Adrian: Regarding the pole shift there are two possible meanings: 1) A magnetic shift; i.e where the current magnetic north becomes magnetic south and vice versa. Scientists have discovered this has happened many times in Earths history and we are overdue for one now. 2) A physical pole shift, where the Earth re-orientates itself on its axis so we have a new position for the equator, poles and so on relative to where they are now.

E: Did the magnetic poles ever swap?
Z: They moved slightly, but they didn't swap as scientists see it.
E: Why do then scientists say it happened?
Z: Essentially, they base their findings on the assumption that the crust of the earth didn't move as much and as rapidly as it did with past pole shifts. So a magnetic pole shift may appear as the only possible explanation to them, while it was actually a movement of the crust over big areas.

Bob251: In regards to the pole shift: 1. Will the pole shift happen naturally or will it be induced by an outside force (ex: one of the 28 different races currently watching over Earth)?

Z: It will be induced naturally from an outside force. It is nothing the Earth can do on it's own suddenly, and needs the influence of a planet bassing by nearby. No alien species will induce the poleshift therefore.

AngelicSaiyan: Will peace prevail over the terrorism? I'm getting sick and tired of the media hype over the war on terror and the mideast war.

Z: Yes, eventually peace will prevail. But it's up to all of you humans when this will be reached - it could take you many years, if you want. It could take a few days if everyone broke free and knew how to live "together" with others. It also depends greatly on how long those people in the background who intentionally stir up the troubles worldwide will be able and allowed to do so. There's no sense in waiting for a poleshift to 'fix' things, although many things will change then.

Sn0wball: 1. What about Rael? Is he just a marionette to inform people about changes? Beacuse his ideas are a bit .. 2. Do they need to learn emotions for thir spiritual growth? 3.When will occur some visible changes? I think I can feel them, but I want to see them. If they don't want to say the exact date, at least give us the year.

E: Is Rael channeling someone?
Z: Yes. He is not channeling us.
E: In his teachings, he apparently brings in much of himself and builds some cult around it.
Z: This is the case. He is allowed to do so, and people all over the world are free to join his movement, if they want to get dependent. His ideas will probably not suit the 'common sense' of most. For further information as allowed, please ask more detailed questions.
E: About emotions...
Z: Yes, we need to learn emotions. We are developing a hybrid race with mixtures of our and humans DNA to be the next physical body to incarnate into. For both humans and us. This body will contain the best of both. The merging of those 2 species was not our decision, but comes from a higher authority.
E: ... Visible changes ... ?
Z: They are already beginning to occur worldwide.

Adrian: 11) Assuming the Zeta Reticulans are a much older race than Earth people, one would assume they are much more advanced along the path back to the "prime creator" "first cause" etc. is this actually the case? Also, why is it necessary for Zeta to still live in the physical Universe if they are indeed so advanced on the path as it is the objective of everyone, to evolve beyond the cycle of reincarnation. 12) How does the Zeta/Pleiadian mothership remain undetected from the resources of Earth goverments etc.?

E: Are you more advanced than us?
Z: Yes, we are. But we are not gods - we are limited, we cannot know or do everything. Physical reincarnation takes place in 3rd and 4th densities.
E: Can you explain the concept of densities?
Z: As far as this is possible in some quick words, yes. A density, or dimension, describes a certain state of matter. What you experience, is 3rd density. A density also includes a set of rules or patterns or laws which structure reality as it is perceived. What we are in, is called 4th density/dimension. This is still physical, but of a finer nature.
E: Why does the mothership remain undetected?
Z: It approached hidden in the trail of the comet Hale Bopp. At this time it was still visible because it had to move through 3rd density. After reaching the point of it's orbit, it could move to 4th density. To perceive this density using telescopes etc. is beyond your technological possibilities, as your instruments are made for and only respond to 3rd dimension physics.

E: This was all I had at the moment... do you want to add anything now?
Z: No. We leave the situation as it is for now.

Edi-
Thanks for posting these responses. This is actually getting quite interesting now. I have a few comments regarding the answers you were given.

Re the pole shift being magnetic -- I have a lot of respect for Edgar Cayce due to the quality and accuracy of his readings over an extensive period of time. ANd what they describe sounds very much like what he said, if I remember correctly. I'm fairly certain he termed it a pole shift, but he said that the outer crust will basically shift or slide around the inner part. Anyways, that's what struck me when I read their response.

Re the ease of APing without a method/approach -- this one I can vouch for based on personal experience. I had been naturally phasing from dreams to astral without realizing what I was doing. I hadn't read anything about it and thought (while lucid) that I was simply still in a dream. But with some subtle differences. ONce I realized what I was doing and read how others were trying to do it, I began to actually 'think' about APing, and then I would mess myself up. My problem is that I now forget to just surrender and allow, instead I use my mind to try and induce something and I have a very difficult time doing this. So while their answer may seem like a 'cop-out' to some (not giving specific details on how to do it) from my experience, they are correct in what they describe. I'm now trying to 'unlearn' what I learned after I realized what I was doing naturally!

For those interested, the best way I can describe it is to simply sink deep within your body. I do this from within a lucid dream. But I simply close my eyes and feel myself falling or sinking within my body. Don't force the feeling, just completely surround and allow whatever happens, to happen. In a split second, I would open my eyes and be in the astral.

Re lack of currency -- to me this intuitively makes complete sense. I would actually have been disappointed if they said that they still used currency. I think this is one thing that needs to go some day.

I'm still can't get a 'solid' read on everything that they say, but I must admit I'm actually impressed with the answers they are giving. Most of them fit what I personally perceive to be 'true'. (I'm a bit afraid to use that word here these days, but I hope you guys understand what I mean when I say it in this post).

Greeings Edi,

Thank you and the Zeta for the latest questions and answers session.

This one caught my eye:

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E: Why does the mothership remain undetected?
Z: It approached hidden in the trail of the comet Hale Bopp. At this time it was still visible because it had to move through 3rd density. After reaching the point of it's orbit, it could move to 4th density. To perceive this density using telescopes etc. is beyond your technological possibilities, as your instruments are made for and only respond to 3rd dimension physics.

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Are the Zeta aware of the "Heavens Gate" people who committed mass suicide a few years ago after believing there was an alien ship hidden in the tail of the Hale-Bopp comet, and which they were to rendevous with outside of their physical bodies?

I am not in any way making any associations here I must stress straightaway, but it does rather stand out as a coincidence with there actually being a spacecraft hidden in the tail of Hale-Bopp, that much is clear.

With best regards,

Adrian.

I hope no one minds if I through in a few questions.. Interesting stuff! [8D]

(1) Do beings that have visited Earth in the past inhabit the planet you spoke of, and if so, how exactly do they survive the extreme temperatures normally associated with 'deep space'?

(2) Who were those that the Sumerians called 'Annunaki'?

(3) If work published by Zecharia Sitchin is accurate, then there must be possibilities that 'Nibiru' is being ruled by either Enki or Enlil's side of Anu's line. Is this the case? If so, how will this race of beings be involved in the upcoming major events?

(4) Who really built the Great Pyramids and the Sphinx and why?

(5) Are there still undiscovered structures underground Giza?

Hi Adrian,

Mayatnik already wrote a very detailed explanation of the events surrounding the Heaven's Gate cult, you can read it at http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5318&whichpage=-1&REPLY_ID=37892

Eventually some questions about this will be included in one of the next Q/A session to see the Zetas' point of view.

Best regards,
 Edi

Greetings no_leaf_clover,

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Originally posted by no_leaf_clover

(3) If work published by Zecharia Sitchin is accurate, then there must be possibilities that 'Nibiru' is being ruled by either Enki or Enlil's side of Anu's line. Is this the case? If so, how will this race of beings be involved in the upcoming major events?

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I would like to know how life could possible even exist on Nibiru.

If you think about it, a planet with such a massively eliptical orbit is going to experience extremes of climate, temperature and presumable highly unstable as well. Furthest from the sun temperatures will be extremely cold, absolute zero probably, and then heating up rapidly as it enters the inner solar system.

With best regards,

Adrian.

AngelicSayian "I'd like to see this going on, but I don't have telepathic powers. I'm not asking anyone to give me such a fright in the middle of the night, impathic contact or dream, but if I could experience this like thru the radio or telephone that would be ok."

You havent experienced this because of your lack of telepathy, but usually a translation from telepathy to english is like a translation of a paper written by Stephen Hawking using only words a 4 year old knows.

here are some questions for the Zeta i came up with:



1.  The leaders of our nations make obtaining money a priority, according to them how much money a nation has or is worth is the main indicator of that nations development. What would be some good alternative priorities for our leaders to set,now, to more accurately measure a nations development?


2.  Is the amount of physical disease in the world related to the conditioning that takes place to support our leaders priorities?

3.  Do you think protests are a good way to bring about social or political change? Why or why not?

4.  are the recently discovered active volcanoes in Chile directly related to or because of the pole shift?

5.  I hope this doesnt open a can of worms but... What are your thoughts on homosexuality?

6.  How do you reporduce?

Adrian -

Given that information was just posted that a planet will be involved in the pole shift, and that it isn't likely any known planets will cause this, I think it's pretty safe to assume that a yet undiscovered planet will cause this. If you take into account the many Sumerian tablets that describe beings from a planet within our solar system, a planet that only returns every 3600 years or so, you may get the idea that the same planet is being discussed, and is apparently inhabited.

So now the question is 'how?'. How could beings survive such harsh temperatures? The reason I posted the question was a hope in getting a reply from the channelled beings that could shed some light on this for me. I definitely think that such a thing is possible, though I don't really know how. However, I can think of a possibility or two.

Say, for whatever reason, the sun suddenly disappeared one day on Earth. All life on Earth would perish, right? No. There is life on the ocean floors that lives totally independant of the sun. At the bottom of the sea, the temperatures are actually warmer than the water in-between because of thermal heat, and these life forms dwell on methane and plants that live off of methane. The methane comes out of sea floor at amazingly hot temperatures, heated by the magma that lies just below the crust.

This can relate directly to the supposed beings on Nibiru if you assume that Nibiru is still producing much thermal heat. Though humans would most definitely die out if the sun was to abruptly disappear, this wouldn't be because of the lack of light, etc. It would be because of the lack of food and heat. Both of these problems could be solved by thermal heat and the life that dwells off of thermal heat. What I'm getting at is that it's possible for beings on Nibiru to live underground off of heat from the core of their planet while extremely vicious weather limits life above-ground. In fact, in Sitchin's work, texts are shown that depict rocket-like structures that are clearly underground! That's a good hint right there that the beings that made such a base are, for some odd reason, used to building things below ground.

That's just an example. I'm sure there are many more possibilities, though those possibilites may not come to mind because of what we hear from scientists. "Life can only exist on a planet like Earth", "The planet needs to be exactly this far from a star and consists of these elements in these ratios", etc. The truth is that science can only explain what is observable, and alien planets that host life simply aren't available to observe.

Hope that helps..

NLC

I have a few questions as well. And they may be very basic, because I'm still new to all of this stuff. But:

1) I understand that we live in the 3rd density. But what is the 4th density, in our terms? Is it what we call the real time zone and can be seen from our ethereal bodies? Or is it somewhere in the astral plane? Can you give some examples of how life for us will differ in the 4th density?

2) There are many theories on our dreams; their source, their meaning, etc. Some say they are purely the subconscious reviewing the recent events in waking life. Others view it as a time when everyone's consciousness leaves the body and goes into the astral. Some say there are dream schools where people continue to learn spiritual or life lessons while their physical body sleeps. And there are other opinions as well. I have my own idea of what happens, but since the Zeta mention that they can visit us in dreams, can they elobarate on what dreams are and how they are used by humans and how other beings can affect/view them.

3) Could you elaborate further on this 'merging' of the physical bodies (between Zetas and humans)? I must admit that one sounded like something out of a Stephen King novel to me. So could you explain as best as possible how you are currently achieving this? What are considered "the best" traits from each body to achieve or merge together? Who decides which is "the best"? If this merger is not by 'your' decision, then who instructed or explained to you that this should be done? I believe you mentioned that this was already underway. What signs, if any, can be seen or identified with these hybrid beings?

I have a 4th question, but I think its more for Edi than directly to the Zeta. That is, can we get answers to these questions from other aliens as well? If there are 28 different species, can some of the other species also answer questions in this manner. I, for one, would be very interested in those as well. That may not be possible, but I thought I'd ask.

I have a few questions to the zeta. Why do they believe that their way of contact between us is better than telepathy? I would greatly aprecciate all answers.

Lynfer,

You ask, "Why do they believe that their way of contact between us is better than telepathy? I would greatly aprecciate all answers."

I'll try and answer the question, seeings as how the Zeta have addressed this (I'm pretty sure).  They do not believe their way is neccssarily better, but through the course of their evolution, they "lost" (or I think "put aside" might be more appropriate) their emotions.  By contacting us through astral projection/OBEs, they can view and study the emotions we humans display.

I think that's correct.  If anyone wants to correct me or clarify the point, feel free to.

I so then why would they put aside their emotions?

In relation to Hale-Bopp, is the mothership what caused the whole "companion" or "satellite" hype whatever with the comet?  I did read somewhere that "they" (the comet enthusiasts) have discovered a satellite or companion type body orbiting the comet, but was supposedly covered up by NASA.  I also read that NASA keeps covering up the Planet X thing by covering up any discoveries that might leak, or shut down the SOHO LASCO and EIT feeds.  I tend to believe that the breaks in the data from SOHO is intereference, or the risk of malfunction when a CME comes this way, but however, they have noticed that whenever comets go by and cause a form of discharge from Sol, the feeds are cut. Like I said, I still believe thatthe breaks in the SOHO feed is just safety concerns with the spacecraft and nothing more.  However, I have noticed the solar cycle is starting to peak again.  What is the cause of that?  Solar Cycle 23 has been the most unique of ALL the solar cycles on record (it did produce two nice auroral shows here, 43 degrees north latitude, both out of God only knows how many I have missed)

Has anyone actually met any of these aliens on an astral trip?

I ask, because this actually happened to me again the other night. I didn't call for a guide and wasn't looking for alien contact though. But somehow, I got 'intercepted' while in the astral.

When I woke up, I asked the pendulum:

Had I simply 'made up' the scenario in the astral? No
Was I in front of the computer of some alien species? Yes
Was this alien species the Pleiadians? No
Were they the Zetas? No
Do I know the name of the species? No
Was this the same species I met the last time in the astral? No

I realize this thread is for conversations with the Zetas via the pendulum, but the questions that I asked seemed in line with questions that some people have asked here. So if you don't want me to post these anymore (if I have any more sessions with them) please let me know. You won't hurt my feelings at all. So please be honest.

I'm not sure if these are useful to you all or not. I honestly hadn't intended to try and gather information for public use. I was purely asking for my own personal curiousity. I've pasted an excerpt from my dream journal below, containing the events surrounding this experience:

Something happens next, but I don't remember what it is. I'm now in front of a huge computer screen. Its about 1/2 the size of the screens in movie theatres. I realize that it will answer any questions I ask.

I don't type in questions, but I think them. As I think them, they appear on the screen. Then I see the answer appear right after the question. I have some trouble controlling my thoughts. I tend to think a lot of things at once and they appear jumbled on the screen. The first several questions, I had to re-think several times before they appeared in some kind of coherent context.

I remember other people in the room with me, I didn't see them, but sensed them there. I remember also tuning them out as best as I could. I was focusing very hard on understanding and remembering every question and answer. I really wanted to retain what it told me. But, of course, I only remembered some of them.

Did Jesus die to forgive all of our sins? No was the answer.

Then the screen changed and I'm inside the image. There is a man that reminded me of Patrick Stewart. He was inside a large, hollow ball. The bottom half of the ball was red. The top half of the ball was all glass. The man was dressed completely in red. The circle was sitting on the very top of a very tall/thin structure. It reminded me of one of the amusement park rides I saw in Vegas on a show. There is a steeple on the top of one of the casinos and the ride sits you in these chairs and jerks you up to the top. You can see all of the city from there. Then it quickly drops you. I am on the outside of the circle, holding on so I don't fall. I was not fully conscious at the time. So I remember telling myself, I can't fall and if I do, nothing will happen. But the other half of me kept thinking this is REALLY high up in the sky and I didn't like it at all.

Anyways, the man said something about the answer to my question. I must admit that I was a bit preoccupied with my current position at the time, so I don't remember the details. But the gist was that everyone is responsible for their own actions. No one can negate (forgive or correct) your actions but you.

Then I'm back in front of the computer screen.

I mentally ask if Karma is a result of cause and effect? Yes.

Is karma a universal concept? Yes.

Do I have any karma left to atone for? I don't remember the answer to this one.

Did God create the devil? Yes. This answer confused me for a second. Then I remembered that everything was in God, was/is God's creation. So then I re-phrased my question.

Did God give man the free-will to manipulate energy and cause it to create what they want. Thus they created the current form of the devil themselves? Yes.

I had asked a lot more questions than this. But I can't remember the rest. I know I asked about the crucifixion. But I can't remember the answers or other questions.

During the last question I asked, someone behind me said that this will be the last question for this session. I asked something. The response was that the questions will become simpler and the answers more straightforward as I learn to phrase (think) the questions better.

Then there were 4 computer icons that appeared on the screen. They were in a row from left to right. The second monitor on the second one was black, like it was off. The first one had, I think, a white monitor. The third one had a bright blue monitor. I forget the color of the 4th monitor. But one by one, I tell each of the following icons to leave: 1, 3 and 4. I kept the 2nd one on the screen. I told it that I knew it was the only one that could respond. The best I can explain, is that when I say something, this one can respond to verbal commands. But I'm not sure that totally correct. I honestly forget the meaning of that.

Anyways, it then puts up a bunch of lines in a row from left to right (like hangman). Underneath each line, is a number. When I say a number from the number line, the computer will add in a different number that corresponds to the number I read, on the line above it.

Somehow I have memorized what numbers are associated to which ones. And we don't do this in order, although I don't know why. I skip around saying random numbers on the screen. As soon as I say a number, the computer responds just as quickly. Its fun, because we are doing very well. At one point, the computer gets a bit ahead of me and adds a number right as I say the number. That throws me off for a second. But then we complete the numbers. End of experience.

I don't know what the significance of the 'numbers game' at the end was. But I did get the sense that I would be back there sometime and allowed to ask more questions.

Greetings.

I have some questions too.............

Are these Zeta Reticuli the same Grey's that are described as being around 3feet 6inches in height ?

Are they the same Grey's that I have seen and had contact with since my birth ?

Who then do you say are the taller (around 5 feet in height) pale coloured Grey's ?

Would they describe the Higher-Self/Guide connections ?

Will the 'pole shift' follow the description layed out by Albert Einstien ?

If they are here to help us humans, then why is the information given so far been the same information that can be found in a multitude of other available sources ?

Why are these people involved in 'The Project' being assigned Guides who they do not meet face to face in order to truly know if the beings/entitiies that are responding are their True Spiritual Guides ?

Who has deemed themselves to be on a level where they can ASSIGN any humanly-incarnating Soul a Guide ?

I would appreciate honest answers to these questions from the 'Zetas'
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Now, for the humans who are involved here, I have some questions......

Have any of you so much as studied the UFO and Abduction data that illustrates who and what the Zeta Grey are ?

Have any of the 'appointed' teachers had physical or astral contact with these Zetas ?

Have any of you really asked the BIG questions ?  

Like, what is really behind this phenomena?  

Why won't the Responder's to these questions supply answers that contain detailed information on the mechanics of the proposed 'shift' that they say is about to occur ?  And please don't fob me off with the standard answers here.

Why is it that the 'appointed' are people who came to the Pulse in recent months and who initially claimed no experience of Spiritual Journeys and other connections ?

Are any of you even slightly aware of the undercurrents and agendas that some people (who do not post here anymore) have felt ?

Why is it that a moderator here felt the need to reiterate three times that "there are no reasons to question this" ??  When the responsibility of his position should insist that he informs us to QUESTION EVERYTHING.

Why too are the 3 or 4 people who had trouble with what is presented here now reffered to as if they were problematic or foolish types, when the reverse was obviously true to many others ?

Please think well on these questions, and if you wish, then please go to page 28 of "And the Truth will be known..." and read the post I placed there  It provides a little more detail.

Thank you for bearing with me.

Love Always. Tayesin.[:)]

Tayesin-
I really liked your questions. I can't answer for the others, but I'll give you my own responses. Addressing your first group of questions, to my knowledge, I have not contacted or been contacted by the Zeta or Pleaidians. So I will skip those.

Regarding your second set of questions. I had posted somewhere on these threads that I have never been a 'follower' of UFO sightings or abductions. I personally believe that there is intelligent life on planets other than Earth. I believe that some of the people who say they've been contacted or abducted could have been telling the truth. But I think a lot of the stuff reported is 'hype'. Again, I have no research to back this up. This is just my perception based on what I've read/heard. And as I said, I haven't felt myself personally attracted to that area, so I have not researched anything there.

My interest in the pendulum thread was purely for divining purposes. My goal was not to contact a spirit guide or an alien. My goal was to contact my higher self. That's still my goal.

I have been conversing with a being(s) via the pendulum. But again, as I've posted a few times, I still have not yet developed a comfort level as to the identity of the being with whom I'm communicating. It has never said that it was a Pleiadian or Zeta. Sometimes it says its my higher self and other times it says its an alien. The varying of these answers is one of the frustrating things I am facing right now.

I have posted on this thread, two astral trips involving what 'could' be aliens. I say could be, because I'm not positive. I do understand that in the astral plane, our thoughts affect the environment. In the first experience, I specifically asked if the beings I was with were aliens. They then 'turned' to aliens. So were they actually aliens, or did they change to adjust to my question? I don't know.

The second trip, I was not thinking of aliens at all. In fact, I was focused on a totally diffent goal and yet ended up with a group of beings who allowed me to 'research' my own spiritual questions using something in the astral that I likened to a computer.

I personally beleive that we each will describe the same astral experience differently because each of us are different individuals. And while the concept will be common, the impression of details will vary in such a way as to best be understood by each individual person having the experience. So, I while I know these experiences happened and I remember them very clearly. I can't say for certain that I met any aliens, let alone these specific ones, because they could have been simply other astral beings conforming to my mental focus at the time. But regardless, I shared them on this thread in case others found them useful.

I am not personally focused on the pole shift or anything catastrophic as related to your next few questions. Which is why I didn't ask them in my two astral trips. So I'll leave those answers to others.

I found this site a few months ago. In fact, I think Mayatnik first posted within a week or so of my joining. All I can say is that, for me personally, this was a coincidence.

I have made my views regarding the 'debate' on these threads known already and I don't want to re-hash it again. So I won't speak to those questions either.

I hope that answers some of the information that I personally have posted here for you.

Tayesin - nice set of questions.

If anybody has any questions, try to get them in so they can all be answered at once, as I have been told will happen.

After contacting Mayatnik and Edi online and working a little with telepathy will no real success so far, I should still naturally be undecided. A part of me is saying "this stuff is real, you just need to work at it," a smaller part is saying "this stuff is real and you should persue it all that you can," and the part that I feel most comfortable and natural with is saying "Hey.. lay back. You've got other things going on right now, and even if this stuff is real, it's not that important right now. If earthquakes start up and volcanos start erupting and the pole shift starts, head for the mountains, but until then, everything's fine."

Right now I'm going with that last 'feeling', as it seems most natural to me and is more 'me' than the other two. Going at this sort of thing full-blast and expecting to hear voices in my hear in a matter of hours doesn't seem right and I'm uncomfortable with trying. I'm still open-minded to all of this and for the sake of argument I often suppose it's accurate, but for the record, my personal results so far with telepathy.. haven't gotten me far. There was a time or two while I was talking with Edi when I felt as though something had entered my head that was totally not me and it was inspiring at the time, I guess, but at the same time I didn't feel like this voice needed to come through too urgently at this period in time for me. I would like to see answers to these questions, though.

E: I am concerned about maybe not being able to answer questions in full detail if I myself miss some background knowledge. To what extent is it necessary that I know what it is that I ask about?
P: If you have absolutely no idea of it, it's sometimes more difficult to bring your mind into the right direction. In this case, you would have to ask some general questions first to get an idea about the topic, and narrow it down. When you got this first idea, this core idea in your mind, there will be a certain set of associations in your mind coming into your field of view, depending on how much you know about this topic. You can then easily respond to telepathic input in that area.
E: So if I know nothing about something I ask you about, I can only get a superficial description?
P: You can get into details of course, but it needs effort and active thinking from your side.
E: Okay... can we then let the Zetas answer some questions?
P: Yes, they are ready...
Z: Hi.
E: Hello.
Z: We would just start with the questions if you agree, there's nothing else to discuss at the moment.

no_leaf_clover: (1) Do beings that have visited Earth in the past inhabit the planet you spoke of, and if so, how exactly do they survive the extreme temperatures normally associated with 'deep space'?

E: I think this question referrs to Nibiru...
Z: Yes. Beings do exist on this planet. Normally, a planet that far from sun would be assumed to have very low temperatures, as they are measured on the outer planets in this solar system. The key to a well-temperated planet which can support life, is the atmosphere. If you look at Mercury, you have bot extreme heat and extreme cold, because it's atmosphere is in no way similar to the earths.
E: Does Mercury have an atmosphere at all?
Z: No. So you see, life on a planet far from sun would need an atmosphere which doesn't give off heat, in addition to technology which is able to increase the temperature. You find both on Nibiru.
E: Is it natural for Nibiru's atmosphere to keep it's temperature in the inside? I can't imagine how this would be possible.
Z: It is not natural, it needs to be kept this way by the beings inhabiting the planet. They are using gold particles which are placed in the outer edge of the atmosphere. This keeps the loss of temperature rather low. Additionally, this gold is heated up to some extent to keep the temperature almost constant.
E: How would they heat it up?
Z: It's comparable to microwaves. Some radiation which can be produced at the surface is sent up to give it's energy off to the gold.
E: Isn't the atmosphere already too thin up there for the gold to heat up something then?
Z: No. Consider first that this planet is several times heavier than the earth, which results in the atmosphere being denser than on earth overall. And even if the gold is in the outer edge, it's still like an 'electric blanket'.
E: Wouldn't this need lots of gold? I mean, HUGE amounts?
Z: Yes. This is why those people of Nibiru came on earth to mine some gold here.
E: What about light... if they have no sun near Nibiru, do they have lamps everywhere? Or fluorescent plants?
Z: No fluorescent plants. The gold in the atmosphere doesn't shine, either. This means they have to use artificial lighting everywhere.
E: Isn't this bad for their health?
Z: They are used to it, and their medicine can deal with possible effects of it easily.

(2) Who were those that the Sumerians called 'Annunaki'?

Z: You've heard that it could be translated as 'those who came from the sky'. It was not one single alien species.
E: Where did they come from?
Z: They came from the planet called Nibiru, mostly.
E: Most, but not all? Who were the others?
Z: Beings from all over the universe were on earth from time to time; but those the Sumerians refer to are essentially from Nibiru.
E: And what did they do on earth?
Z: They were here to mine gold.  

(3) If work published by Zecharia Sitchin is accurate, then there must be possibilities that 'Nibiru' is being ruled by either Enki or Enlil's side of Anu's line. Is this the case? If so, how will this race of beings be involved in the upcoming major events?

Z: Enki and Enlil are still living.
E: Does one of them rule over Nibiru?
Z: Yes. They do not rule together, although they came to terms with each other. The one who rules is Enki.
E: How will they be involved in possible upcoming events?
Z: We are not allowed to comment in too great detail about it.
E: Why not?
Z: Because humanity still has to make choices on its own. It would not be right to reveal everything that might happen because this would infer with the natural development. Similarly it wouldn't be good for most people if they knew the exact day they are about to die.
E: Are things like death totally fixed in advance?
Z: No. But there are some influences, which in the end determine when death occurs. Nothing like this occurs by accident - death does not strike randomly.
E: Please comment on Nibiru-beings' involvement with us, as far as this is allowed?
Z: They will reveal themselves. They are not about to bring destruction to earth, as this would not be allowed. Basically they will offer a way to go to humanity, which can be chosen or not. When this will be, we cannot say.

(4) Who really built the Great Pyramids and the Sphinx and why?

Z: They were built by the inhabitants of Nibiru as a navigational aid.
E: Did those beings visit earth from time to time?
Z: Yes.

(5) Are there still undiscovered structures underground Giza?

Z: No.
E: Are those structures known to the public?
Z: No.

Michael_E: 1. The leaders of our nations make obtaining money a priority, according to them how much money a nation has or is worth is the main indicator of that nations development. What would be some good alternative priorities for our leaders to set,now, to more accurately measure a nations development?

Z: The way of living of its people would be a possible measure... meaning if they are cared for medically, if everyone has access to enough food and other basic things necessary for living. If all basic requirements are met, one could measure the amount of luxury, free time, culture, science etc., and maybe the amount of conflicts.

2. Is the amount of physical disease in the world related to the conditioning that takes place to support our leaders priorities?

Z: Most of the physical diseases in this world are totally unnecessary. Conditioning to support leaders isn't the bad thing - the bad thing is that the supported leaders don't care for people's health.
E: What about 'Karma' here... aren't diseases necessary to fulfill personal karma?
Z: No. What you call Karma is basically just a notice, by some occurence, for a human to learn something, to pick up information necessary for his development. This could happen on other ways than physical diseases.

3. Do you think protests are a good way to bring about social or political change? Why or why not?

Z: What else would you do, facing injustice, than protesting against it? If you are certain of something, stand up for it when others try to control your life.

4. are the recently discovered active volcanoes in Chile directly related to or because of the pole shift?

Z: Yes... more volcanoes will get active in the time preceding the pole-shift; not only a few, but lots of, so it will be really clear when something is about to happen.

5. I hope this doesnt open a can of worms but... What are your thoughts on homosexuality?

Z: It is a naturally occurring form of sexuality which should be respected as all others.

6. How do you reporduce?

Z: By cloning. Yes, the classical image: taking some cells, mixing the DNA together, and growing them in a tube of liquid.

Novice: 1) I understand that we live in the 3rd density. But what is the 4th density, in our terms? Is it what we call the real time zone and can be seen from our ethereal bodies? Or is it somewhere in the astral plane? Can you give some examples of how life for us will differ in the 4th density?

Z: It is not the real-time zone. But it is very similar, only on a different plane. 4th density is not an existing place you will go to, but rather the reality you will be in after the photon belt has raised your vibration.
E: Will reality be solid, or just wobbly and easily be changed by thought?
Z: Reality will still be solid and appear physical as it does now, but thought will also become more 'solid' - this will as an example make levitation possible.
E: Will our perception of time change?
Z: You will still live in continuous time, although the subjective experience of going through time could be controlled to some extent by your intent - meaning by concentration you could be able to make the time you experience pass slightly slower or faster.
E: So things will appear the same, but our minds can influence them more easily?
Z: Yes... your mind will be able to interact better with the physicality surrounding you; telepathy among humans will be common and easier than today. Your mind will affect your bodies to an even greater extent than now already, regarding appearance and health.

2) There are many theories on our dreams; their source, their meaning, etc. ... can they elobarate on what dreams are and how they are used by humans and how other beings can affect/view them.

Z: Your descriptions of what happens in dreams do not exclude each other. When consciousness leaves the body, it normally has to process things that occured during the day. This can happen automatically, when the subconscious just releases whatever it wants to have processed by the conscious mind, so a dream forms in this case, which is essential for the subconscious mind to function properly. Things which are suppressed during the day can then surface in a dream. The idea of dream schools is correct - it happens regularly that you visit a certain scenario during your dreams which is not produced by your own mind. This means you are either experiencing a dream scenario which was specifically created for you to have a specific experience, or you are somewhere in the non-physical receiving instructions, advices and teachings for your life.
E: How do other beings affect our dreams?
Z: If it is a dream scenario created for you, it is like you were watching, or rather being in a video film. Technology to create such films is available to us and other species watching over the earth. If it is not such a video, and your mind is not in 'class' at the moment, it can be wandering around and exploring whatever region it is in, for example what you call the astral plane, more or less conscious.

3) Could you elaborate further on this 'merging' of the physical bodies (between Zetas and humans)? I must admit that one sounded like something out of a Stephen King novel to me. So could you explain as best as possible how you are currently achieving this? What are considered "the best" traits from each body to achieve or merge together? Who decides which is "the best"? If this merger is not by 'your' decision, then who instructed or explained to you that this should be done? I believe you mentioned that this was already underway. What signs, if any, can be seen or identified with these hybrid beings?

Z: We are still doing lots of research on how to create the best next physical vehicle. A big part of this is seeing how certain DNA combinations are doing in action - a few thousand humans all over the earth carry those genes in them (they agreed to this before they incarnated) and are watched closely. By this, we want to see what combinations are suited best for life on earth, and  how our own genes are able to be mixed with human genes. This will still need much time, and although we already are developing hybrids by fertilizing certain women and removing the unborn hybrid child after a few few months, your human body will still be the "normal" body for entities incarnating on earth for the next few hundred years.
E: What are the best traits of each?
Z: We will contribute mental capacity. You will contribute emotions.
E: Is this all?
Z: Of course not.. you will keep most things you like and are familiar with, as sexuality, your overall physical appearance and your individuality. We will bring long lifespan, intelligence, and lack of violence among ourselves.
E: Who decides which is "the best"?
Z: It is voted upon by us and beings which are not incarnated on earth at the moment but will be so in the future.
E: Who is behind this merger?
Z: It is common all over the universe for 2 species to merge at some point in their evolution by mixing their genetic material. This is part of the game you could call "fusion of opposites" - this universe is about polarities coming together to learn respect for each other, on all imagineable levels. There is a organizational structure we call 'Council of Worlds' which oversees all these developments, lays out rules to be followed by all who are involved, and give permission or instructions on what is to be done.
E: How can these hybrid beings be identified?
Z: It is not time for them yet to appear publicly. But if you see one then, it will be obvious. This will not happen for some time, though.

E: Okay... did I get everything you wanted to say, and did I write it down correctly?
Z: Yes. We would like to see this transcript published as is.
P: I can confirm the Zetas' approvement.
E: Good - thank you then for this conversation.

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The one who rules is Enki.

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Greek Poseidon. [:D] Congrats to Enki!

Thanks for the information. It's greatly appreciated, Edi.

Hello

I came across this site http://www.nibiruancouncil.com
Edi could you please check it out when you have some free time?

Malvina

OK, this "Fourth Dimension," you say it's kind of inbetween what we call our third dimensional reality, and the the real time zone?  Are out of body experince still able to happen once we're in 4D? Could we go back to 3D anytime we wanted? Are there any lower dimensions than our 3D? I don't mean things like "oh, yeah, 2D, where you have width and heigth," but,like, our  dimension, astral, higher, like that.

The Bible Code, is it real? If it is, who came up with it?

These other alien species on the ship, could you describe them? What does the ship look like? What's it orbit? Are there certain times that people can see it? Do you guys like chocolate?

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The Bible Code, is it real? If it is, who came up with it?

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I just saw a program on one of the Discovery Channels about that, and it's really weird. We are told we are in control of our future, yet all of the big things that have happened through history (The World Wars, Einstein, even Sept. 11 and the recent war in Iraq) are encoded into the Hebrew Bible and even future events are predicted, like a big Californian earthquake in 2010, an outbreak of smallpox along with a rise in terrorism, and a comet slamming into Earth. And chocolate.. That's another good question. Chocolate has been around for thousands of years and has been proven to reduce pain for whatever reason.

What exactly was the Flatwoods Monster? Was that one of the species that's been monitoring Earth? Do you Zetas listen to music for entertainment or is that something that applies more to beings that have emotion?

Wow.. Edi nice job.. I haven`t had the time to read all the post until now.. so i haven`t posted.. Now i have read it all and i have some questions too..

So here we go:

1). After the pole shift would it be some kind of a drastic change in our social life - what i mean is will we be living like we do now in houses and tall buildings or more like trees and something like that OR in  more advanced buildings..

2). Zeta tells us they are more spiritually evolved than we are.. They also say they lost their emotions and that they are based more on technology than on nature and mind thoughts creation or something like that.. How come - why do they need teachnology for ?

3). Zetas.. you told us that you can not give us a specific date.. but on zetatalk  it says that Nibiru is somewhere near Saturn and it also says that it takes 3 months for the Nibiru planet to pass through our Solar System.. So we have a date.. Logically the pole shift will appear in maximum ONE month.. Or are you not in contact with Zetatalk (you said you are)...  Where did you spread false information.. here or there ?

4). You want to unify the 2 species... The Humans have nothing to say about that ? I for example am against it..

5). You feel no love.. but are VERY intelligent.. you also want to use our DNA to help yourselves evolve.. You also said the pole shift is outside triggered.. and also that the pole shift will bring mass death.. That sounds EVIL in my opinion.. So it means your intentions in helping yourselves, is for you to evolve, not to help us (the main purpouse i`m refering to) ? - i am asking you.. not attacking - though if you feel nothing, can you take offence ?

6). What is you bussines on this site ? If you want to help people you aren`t helping many.. you could appear on TV and really help.. This internet propaganda (if i may call it like that) is not really helping your cause in my opinion, because the majority of people see it as mambo-jambo.. because HEY ! this is internet :)

7). (and the last one - sorry for the length of this post) Are there an infinite number of dimensions ? And what about below 1D ?? Is there 1D ? Or 2d ?


Thanks again Edi for your time spent on this,
Mike
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Are you sure it wasn't the History Channel?

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). Zetas.. you told us that you can not give us a specific date.. but on zetatalk it says that Nibiru is somewhere near Saturn and it also says that it takes 3 months for the Nibiru planet to pass through our Solar System.. So we have a date.. Logically the pole shift will appear in maximum ONE month.. Or are you not in contact with Zetatalk (you said you are)... Where did you spread false information.. here or there ?

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If Nibiru is actually near Saturn, we can mathematically draw a rough estimate of when Nibiru will reach its perihelion based on the Sumerian's estimate on a 3600-year orbit and the size of the asteroid belt.

My estimate is that if Nibiru is truly near Saturn, then it is 6 to 12 years away from its perihelion (closest point to Earth). That's roughly sometime between 2009 and 2015, but that's only if Nibiru is truly near Saturn and the 3600-year period is somewhat accurate. Coincidentally enough, the average of 2009 and 2015 is 2012.

See http://users.lycaeum.org/~martins/nibiru.html .

Just thought I should add that according to the same page, Nibiru will take much longer than three months to pass through the solar system, unlike the information that was in question on the previous post. I must've missed that part before, or forgot to post about it. [:)]

Dear all,

The communication here is a scam. Please research the available data online regarding so-called Zetas, and use your common sense, aided by a high-school level knowledge of physics, astronomy and psychology. If you would only make the effort to search the web and USENET (http://groups.google.com) for things like Nancy's e-mail, zetatalk@zetatalk.com , you would hopefully be able to see in plain view how things are with Nancy and by extension, Edi. Can you first notice the gross delusion and total incompetence in astronomy and physics evident in Nancy's posts? Then go back to this forum and browse Edi's posts anew. It is evident to a person of good faith that they are making it all up, consciously or unconsciously; it doesn't matter how. In her particular case living under severe delusion for several years while posting plain nonsense to sci.astro newsgroups to advertise herself. Did you notice some of her very hateful posts supposed to be originating from the advanced aliens? What about the numerous statements that her predictions are never wrong? And the multiple missed dates on which something predicted by her was to occur and it did not?

My friendly advice to all who fell into the trap of believing Nancy and Edi: sharpen your filters. Especially the youngest of you. This is garbage, but you may have chosen to believe in it because it is camouflaged in positive generalities successfully de-activating the current spam filters of your mind. Improve your filters now. While the Zeta communications contain a lot of subject matter regarding love, talking about love does not justify talking also huge amounts of nonsense -- repeatedly for many years.

-Vesko

This is the unfortunate part of some of the channeled information that I have seen scattered over the internet - bad science. I won't dispute that there are people in contact with these alien races, what I do dispute is the quality of information being passed on.

I get the impression that a lot of what we see on the internet is the result of someone who has had some successfull communication with an alien race, but has then been pressured into getting more and more answers from them. Instead of stopping to learn and understand the kind of technology and theories that are being put forward by the aliens, which are likely to be either greatly in advance of ours or at least very different, they start misinterpreting things to the point where the only way to put it all together for the avid readers is to make the rest up.

What you end up with from these people's misinterpretations are holes in their theories so big you could fly a starship through them. It looks even worse when the theories being mangled are, as Vesko says, high-school level science. I've seen some "technical" explanations on some sites that are so bad they're actually really funny.

Regards,
James.

I'd like to make it clear: I'm in no way affiliated to the Zetas besides those transcripts I do here. I don't care about the credibility of the Zetas... if they f**k it up by a wrong answer they give - poor them. I won't stand up and fight for them personally like Nancy did. If you believe this is all made up - do it. I don't make it up, regardless of what other people say. I'm doing this in my spare time every few days, if I'm in the mood, and consider it a minor and temporary exploring activity. And although I happen to be the only one doing this here (others could), please don't see me in any further way connected to Nancy, because I am not. I do not intend to do this for longer than a few weeks, if people here are interested at all. If you say it's garbage - maybe it is? Who claimed the opposite? Did I or someone else ever ask someone to believe it? How could I, I don't even believe all of it myself [:)]
Garbage is all around us anyhow.

Vesko, if you think the Zetas have much to say or do in my life, you're off .. and I don't take it that serious as you ascribe to me.. it's ridiculous how people try to make a "boo-man" out of me. Boo! Scared? :)

If you question the method and say it's all made up - you've got your opinion, and that's it, okay.
If you question the content, if it looks like scam for you - why do you bother? Forget it.
If you are concerned about moral implications of doing such things, as in trapping other people in certain beliefs... I see the point here and admit that it DOES matter if people allow being influenced by such stuff. On the other hand, there's already every possible kind of information on the net, and enough arguments to support belief in ANYTHING, so what happens here makes no difference. We could discuss this in a seperate thread if you like, in my opinion this is the only point worth discussing, the rest is personal opinion.

Love and Sharp Filters [:D]
 Edi

haha T'uche edi [:D]

Edi,
So far I've seen nothing from your communications that have been beyond your ability to comprehend. The answers they give you, you understand. Besides that, your last post indicates you're not staking your reputation (or livelyhood) on this, so I'm more inclinde to believe that you'll not make anything up just to please the readers.

This I think is the attitude more people channelling should adopt.

Regards,
James.

bv

the zeta is apparently manipulating some trusting soul to do their bidding. To say the zeta and pleiadians are working together to do the mundane task of answering questons for earthlings entertainment, is just crazy. Has any one heard of a man named Eduard Billy Meier? In his book ufo...contact from the pleiades, he mentions Zeus more than the zeta r. Do not trust the zeta r, they are out to manipulate the emotions of humans for their benefit. For those of you who think  that i'm just a blow hard and that the zeta is Zeus in Billy Meier's book, you are way off base. It would be like saying that the Jews conspired with Hitler and the Nazi's to commit the Holocaust so that the state of Isreal could come into existance. WAIT, their are some out there in cyberland who actually believe that. For the zeta r. the Akahda's sword will find you soon, and to the pleiadians, Ramama is ticked.

Jesus christ, you apply science so directly to such a simple topic that you make this seem to complicated! Its seriously like reading simple english.  But then you incorporate such advanced grammar that it shrouds the simple message.

We really dont need to make anything anymore complicated than it already is. Edi is only one person here answering all your questions. You should feel honored to have someone with this ability to help you.

Love be with all,
~ivan

>Jesus christ, you apply science so directly to such a simple topic that you make this seem to complicated!

There is no science being applied to this topic, the zeta's are simply a vicious and manipulative race that they have managed to tweek the simple minds.

>But then you incorporate such advanced grammar that it shrouds the simple message.

There was no "advanced grammar" used in my post, for I wanted to keep it simple.  

>You should feel honored to have someone with this ability to help you.

How can one feel "honored" when dealing with anyone who has dealings with the zeta's. A race that is being hunted and runs to earth to hide and then uses lies and deception to perpetuate mankinds enslavement. Have you ever had dealings in the real world with the greys. Do you not know that the pleiadians are members of a great gallactic union that does not have the zetas as members, but views them as renegades. The zetas have a true ally in this deception they are perpetuating on all of you, and that is the race known as the Dracos(or to keep it simple the 'Reptilians'). Do you see these alliens as your God?

Beware of Idols, for what you give power too, will be your doom!

First off... I'm not in cahoots with the "gang" here.  I'm there, but not "there" (for lack of better words).

I don't consider ANYTHING a god anymore.  I'm a Catholic without a god.  It's very odd, aint it?

There's alot we don't know in this world, in this lifetime...  What we all need to do is focus on what we know and expand on it.  Making statements about something you don't know and passing it off as true by making a post about it only tells me you are afraid of believing something.  I could care less if you did or if you didn't!  But let ME have some fun while I'm at it!  [:D]

I hope these verbal 'wars' end soon, and allow me to move on with my life one way or the other.  I'm not too appreciative of having to post things like this [xx(]

~Squeek

First off another great post by you squeek [:D]

what i cant help doing is laughing. I laugh at every comment that says that the Zeta have bad intentions. I laugh at every little 'war' that goes on in this forum. Ramaya, you do not know much about the Zeta i presume? And yet you accuse them of being evil? I dont know you...so i think ill say that you have bad intentions and you are evil, am i right? (well lets hope i am) [:D]

i have not personally delt with the zeta and i do not intend to, just because i dont feel like it...and that it doesnt interest me. But i dont think that they are evil AND i do not worship them as idols...[?]
No body here worships them, they arent "higher" then we are, they just know more and are still learning...we are all the same. Your fear is what makes you so blind Ram, your fear of the zeta blocks you from the light that we are trying to shed onto you.

Now, you must understand that I am not trying to sway you in any direction and that i personally dont care what way you choose, but i want to guide you onto a more enlightened path. Is it so hard to embrace the zeta? I have done so...and many others have too! Why fear? There is no reason to fear anything at all! What is fear? It is the lack on knowledge.

I challenge you to just embrace the Zeta and not fear anything in this world. May it be physical or mental...everything can be overcome and in the end it is for the best.

Love be with all,
~ivan

  Where you guys see verbal wars I see people expressing their own opinions. When I've made comments about testing "guides" etc.. some have taken it as an attack when it simply was not.

 Some of those posting have been exploring all this stuff for 10-15yrs or more. Their comments are not based upon nothing, some have been on a dedicated spiritual path for awhile and seen a few things--they are not newbies.   Anyway,this will all probably fall on deaf ears anyway.

 Celeste

Celeste has made a very good point, one I think everybody here should be a lot more mindfull of.

If someone replies to your post by saying something like "You're completely wrong, the reality of it is this...", or some variation on this, IT IS JUST AN OPINION! You don't have to go on the defensive, you don't have to feel insulted. It is only an opinion of someone who has a different view to yours.

If someone replies to your post by saying something like "You're a complete idiot! How could you possibly know that, you've got s**t for brains....", or something similarly PERSONALLY insulting - not insulting of your idea, but personally insulting, this is an attack and is not an acceptible or tolerated way of discussing things here.

You can get as passionate about you're ideas or beliefs as you want (providing you don't use this forum as a vehicle to shove those beliefs down the throats of others), BUT DON'T MAKE IT PERSONAL!

Regards,
James.

No one should force anyone to believe anything. I urge people to accept each other's differences and communicate in the most logically coherent way they can.
The best we can do is to present coherent arguments based on real data, and insist that others verify our own findings by themselves.
I'm sure you'd agree that one of the biggest problems of our so-called civilization is that we do not tend to value each other's opinion enough so that the most open discussion without any tension is possible among people today. Yes, sometimes a person may say apparent nonsense. Yes, sometimes they may look to be completely off track. But then, we must not condemn them even the slightest, we should just try to point out the logical flaws in their arguments, concisely and dispassionately, never insulting. In case we only have limited knowledged of the discussed matter, even if we are very partial to certain ideas and teachings, it is better to remain silent. Writing threats and condescensions just to make a poor substitution for a coherent response are ad hominem attacks that have been always very common, so that the Latin term survived to the present. Moreover, non-existing threats and condescensions in our opponent's words should not be made up and pointed out by adopting an unnecessary defensive position and in turn threatening like our opponent did, taking part in a silly game of "showing each other who is more important without giving solid arguments." That only leads to fruitless discussions and is repulsive to potential sharing of information of people who might actually share something valuable if others were more thoughtful in their communications.

We need a pleasant, loving communication atmosphere as much as an unbiased, logical one.

-Vesko

Very nice work celeste.  I agree with what you've said completely.

This is only a battle if we make it one.

~Squeek

Zeta Conversation

The following is a log file from Fuzziwig's first telepathic conversation with the Zetas via a telepathic link provided by the Pleiadian guides... it doesn't only include the talk to the Zetas, but also a surrounding frame to show you how this and other things are always done working closely with the guides. We experienced some network problems then, that's why Fuzzi got dropped several times, but I hope it doesn't disturb too much.

Furthermore, from now on Fuzziwig may assist me in doing those sessions and post his own dialogues with the Zetas as he wishes. Welcome on board Fuzzi [:)]

Colour scheme:

Mayatnik (M) in red
Fuzziwig (F) in blue
Jopeha, Fuzzi's guide (J) in orange
Zetas in green(Z)
Edi (E) in brown

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M: Are you ready for a session now Fuzzi?  All quiet there?
F: very
E: I'll be quiet in the background.
M: That's good.........and that was an interesting session you had with TruthSeeker....
I saw the transcript of what the guides were doing with you.  How do you think it went yourself?
F: well we were trying to contact throught telepathy, and it seemed like it didnt work...it
was when i picked up that picture tseek got things got interesting
F: if i had doubts before the were all gone as we confirmed each other in what we saw
F: the = they
M: Yes........it taught you something there...... and you learned that you could both go
to the same place (as I did with TruthSeeker in that session with him....I was shown the same
place, and could go).... the place is for one person like a 'window' here...and the other one can be
'joined' to it.
F: i learned that i can help ppl when im in these pictures, and it seems that there is allways
some1 with a problem where i arrive
F: we even got to scenes at ones which we both could switch back and forth....different
time
F: to = two
M: Yes, there are 'situations' that the guides create for you to experience in.....and
you had a good double-experience there. So, well done !
F: thank you
M: Have you talked to Jopeha since?  Can you talk to him now?
F: i can talk to her, yes
F: and i have
F: we have a game where i she give me a difficult word and we make a conversation from
that
M: Would Jopeha like to give me a demonstration of that for a minute or so?
F: i have made some questions for tonight which has been "run" through Jopeha
F: okay
M: When you say "run" you mean you asked Jopeha about them?
F: yes
J: Power
F: yes this is a good subject, we have talked about this before
F: can you tell me about politics ?
J: yes in politics, ppl usually join for good motives
J: some for the power alone
F: ic, then what turns these motives to power ?
J: well you see every living person has a urge to become special, by gaining power you
feel like becoming special
F: gain power by knowledge ?
J: as we talked about, by holding back knowledge you gain power over others
J: Sometimes false knowledge is just as good
F: we had a talk about Roswell earlier today
M: That is an interesting subject
F: :)
F: i have been talking about roswell and it seems that the whole politics (holding back
information which is false anyway) is important
M: Can you explain this a bit more?
F: yes
F: you see the whole roswell was a sham, and by staging the crash and making witnesses
believe they saw that ufo they had a source. This source would the goverment try to prevent
from revealing any of it. There is allways leaks so its being told to the public. Its this false
information i talk about.
F: "any of it" being the lie
F: it has several purposes
F: one is to reveal a military strenght by (not)showing you have alien technology
F: the is other is plain confusion and fear
M: This is what can be done with one thing......it is like a game of chess, strategy.
F: yes
M: Does Jopeha want to explain some more 'words' to you?
F: no
M: What would Jopheha like us to do now, please?
(Fuzzi dropped out here)
M: You keep dropping out Fuzzi
F: cant help it
M: Bad night for connection
M: Yes......as long as it is reasonably quickly......otherwise we lose text
F: im logging
M: That's good
M: I'm sure Edi is also...... so theZeta will be happier about that....they don't want
window siwtching though
F: im excited about the subject i will bring up tonight
M: Ah....you have a good subject then?
F: yes
M: Ok.......then ask Jopeha can she connect now?
F: yes
J: yes
F: sorry
M: That is good......because the Zeta have been waiting for the window to settle
down.
M: type everything that you AND Jopeha (J:) AND the Zeta (Z:) say......plus any
comments you have.
(Fuzzi dropped again)  
M: Ok...you're back
F: yep
M: What is happening now?
F: *shiver*
F: am i to connect ?
M: You can ask Jopeha.
J: yes
M: Jopeha will do it when it is time........the message I got was "We are waiting to
connect" J
F: i allready have a picture
F: preview
M: Can you describe ?
F: its a face with black almond shaped eyes
F: white background
J: you have contact
F: Hello
Z: Hello
F: Your voice is a bit deeper than mine
Z: This is correct
F: it is nice to meet you :)
Z: we are happy to meet you too
F: i have some questions i hope you can answer
Z: we will be happy to answer them for you
F: I want to ask if humans think about survival in the same way after the poleshift ?
Z: Humans will think differently after the poleshift and survival will not be important
F: Will food and clean water be needed after the poleshift ?
Z: No, pure energy will be consumed instead
F: i see
F: Will fear make the transition hard ?
Z: There will be fear at first, but when ppl realize out intent, then there will be love
F: is it important to remove some of those fear before the poleshift ?
Z: It will make the transition faster
F: in the long run will we be able to help other species less developed than ours, like your
species and the pleidians are doing with humans
Z: yes you will be able to do that, but you have alot of work ahead of you. Later It will
be a cooperation with other species.
F: maya ?
M: You're doing fine
F: :)
M: Good questions
F: where does the energy which we are to consume come from ?
Z: The energy is all around us, its everywhere
F: so there will be less time spent on survival and more on progress and development
Z: This is correct, the next stage is ahead and what you describe will remove
frustration and confusion.
F: this is slightly different question (new subject)
F: i would like to ask if you have crashed in Roswell ?
Z: We have not
F: have there been any autopsies of your species ?
Z : No
Z: We dont crash with a spaceship, there are very strict rules about us appearing
before humans
F: so the goverment would be behind this crash ?
Z: This is correct
F: maya i think im done
M: Has Jopeha disconnected now from the Zeta?
(Fuzzi dropped again)
M: You're back in this window now Fuzzi
F: oh no
F: what was the last msg ?
F: i gave
F: .
M: Z: This is correctFuzziwig says:maya i think im done
F: okay
F: i have thanked them for answering my questions
F: should this appear in the transscript ?
F: to give the appearance of protocol
M: Yes.....what you say and what they say.
M: To show a normal conversation
F: yes
M: JUst as it really happened
F: yes
F: .
F: I have no more questions at this moment, thank you for answering
F: Z : It was our pleasure (gentle smile)
M: That was good.  How do you feel now after your first talk with the Zeta?
F: i feel good
F: i was surprised to be able to hear an actual voice
J: we have been working with sound lately
M: And you could feel the personality?
F: yes
M: What did you feel, then?  Can you describe something about it?
F: formal and pleasant
M: Did they sound like they were 'busy'? or did you sense any others there?
F: i did only sense the one who answered, because he had a distinct voice. He didnt
sound busy, but relaxed
M: Yes, I sensed he was relaxed.
F: he stressed his 's's slightly
F: :)
M: So that was part of his 'character', to stress the 'ss' sounds
F: yes
M: Some people would not understand at all how you could be talking to an 'alien'.
F: yes i know, but it seems to me that communication is possible through so many
layers/distances
F: we are not that different
M: They are very similar.  In fact, they know us far better than someone in our own
street.
F: :)
M: So, you felt very comfortable with the Zeta.
F: oh yes, like a part of me
M: What is Jopeha going to do after this now, working with you?  Is she gong to talk
more about the Zeta?
J: we will not talk about the Zeta, at this moment
J: we have other things to work with
F: i reckon
M: Then should we leave you to do some work with Fuzziwig for a few days?
J: there is work to be done with Truthseeker, and this will take some time
M: They are working with enthusiasm together.
F: yes, im very excited
M: It will be good for you to work together with your guides, each of them.
F: :)
M: J: "We will finish it here for tonight, Mayatnik.  And see how we progress
Fuzziwig and myself over the next few days, doing things sometimes with TruthSeeker"
F: yes
F: its been productive i think
E: You had a good session there... thumbs up!
F: thank you :)

Zeta Conversation

Here's another Zeta conversation from quite some time ago, by Valerie. I've retained the exact formatting as it was in MSN, only adding colours, because the link was not so clear in the beginning... so you can see what difficulties can arise in the beginning of these sessions, and why it is important to have some training and be relaxed in order to get clear answers.

So, applaud and draw the curtain for Val [:)]

Colour scheme:

Mayatnik in red
Valerie in blue
Philon, Val's guide in orange
Zetas in green

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MAYATNIK says:
You recall last Sunday, and the Zeta?  Well, the Zeta and the Pleiadians now have a program worked out for better friendly interchange between Zeta and humans, working with the Pleiadians in this, and using telepathy....rather than the stand Zeta method of AP and trance.  So the Zeta are highly delighted with this arrangement I have made with them in conjuncrtion with Karek, to train a few people
MAYATNIK says:
to have contact with the Zeta.
MAYATNIK says:
So, Karek decided that you would be ideal for this...as it is a Major First for humans.
MAYATNIK says:
Only Edi has done it so far, after spectial tuition by me with his guide alongside.....and we want 2 or 3 for this initially.
Val says:
OK. I want to try.
MAYATNIK says:
This would have been done before, with you....but due to your nonavailability...it had to be put off till now.  But it is a matter of urgency now to get this contact......and you will enjoy asking the Zeta questions about themselves and about their guides (such as Shea, Salex's guide) annd many other things.
Val says:
Ouf!
MAYATNIK says:
You will find them very easy to talk to, but they are more 'formal' than a Pleiadian guide......they particularly like 'politeness', diplomacy and etiquette.
MAYATNIK says:
They tend to not be as laid-back as the Pleiadians (who are more highly evolved, and teachers to the Galaxy)..and the Zeta are very 'work-conscious'.....they are always rushing to a job or coming back from one to rush to another.
Val says:
Why is it a matter of urgency?
Val says:
I see.
MAYATNIK says:
Because the Zeta want to get the program organized..and they have a special Zeta guide-representative standing by.....they like to 'get down to the job'.
Val says:
And what do they look like again?
Val says:
(It may help me to visualize).
MAYATNIK says:
The Zeta are long necked, with large black almond eyes and small mouths, also long arms... but they often appear in 'human' form, usually with long hair.
MAYATNIK says:
Some people are frightened by non-typical appearance.
Val says:
OK. I got the picture.
MAYATNIK says:
The link with them will be set up through the Pleiadian computer's switchboard to the Zeta computer, where the Zeta representive-guide is waiting.
MAYATNIK says:
So, all we have to do....is to start a conversation with Philon (just to get you relaxed) and then Philon will make the hook-up (like a telephone hook-up) with the Zeta...and you'll be put through......just introduced yourself and start talking, simple as that.....
MAYATNIK says:
Type everything you say and everything that Philon (P) says and everything the Zeta says (Z)
Val says:
I will "hear" a difference between Philon and he Zeta?
MAYATNIK says:
You will indeed...and probably appearing to come (like stereo) from different sides of your head, if that will help....but just go with it.......Ok....start talking to Philon now.and type away.  Philon's waiting there now.
Val says:
Will I be able to do this?  P: It's up to you.
MAYATNIK says:
Just take it as it comes, and relax......it's easy to do.
Val says:
Philon you there? P:Yes!
Val says:
You will help me? P: As always.
Val says:
I am ready. P : You are.
Val says:
I am doubting. P:you should not.
Val says:
About myself I mean. P you should not.
Val says:
Ok  P:relax
Val says:
I don't know... P :you must relax.
Val says:
I am reaxed now.
Val says:
Hello?
Val says:
Should close my eyes? I think I will.
Val says:
Mayatnik I have thoughts coming to my mind but I don't know. I heard "I am not that close to you"
Val says:
Did I hear a Zeta talk? P;......
MAYATNIK says:
P: She heard right.  She needs to relax
MAYATNIK says:
This is just a meeting...... so greet the Zeta as you would ordinarily
Val says:
Hello. Do you hear me well?
Val says:
Z : Yes.
Val says:
My name is Val. What is your? Z : BLispt???
Val says:
Can you send me a picture of you please?
Val says:
Z : (no answer)
Val says:
Can you talk to me about you please?
Val says:
Z : Female...   V: Do they have a gender Mayatnik?
MAYATNIK says:
Ask the Zeta guide
Val says:
Do Zeta have a gender?   Z:no
Val says:
No?   Z: Of course they do!
Val says:
You want to tell me about you? Z:I am here for that.
Val says:
OK. Sorry, I don't hear you that well.   Where are you right now? Z : Far away from you.
Val says:
Z : Look plus loin than you can.
Val says:
Z: I understand that you learn...
Val says:
Are you still there? Z:We still receive you.
Val says:
I am sorry, I am tired now and can't hear you well.
Val says:
Z : Go up. ????
MAYATNIK says:
You can talk to Philon at any time as well
MAYATNIK says:
Don't be nervous, just enjoy the conversation...and you'll receive clearer
Val says:
P, whay can't I hear them?  P: You are too anxious.
MAYATNIK says:
Treat it as Messenger......you send...they receive...then they send back.
Val says:
OK I try again. Should I talk in English or in my mother tongue, or does it matter?
MAYATNIK says:
Whatever is comfortable
MAYATNIK says:
The Zeta understand any language
Val says:
Zeta guide, do you hear me? z : yes I do.
Val says:
Can you see me right now? Z : yes I see you in my....mind.
Val says:
Can you please send me a picture of you? Z : I have done so already.
MAYATNIK says:
Ask Philon to put up the picture
MAYATNIK says:
Philon is there to assist you
Val says:
P please show me this picture.  P: You saw it but did not look at it.
Val says:
I'll try again. Show me.
Val says:
Please tell me somthing about you that I don't know. Z : we are four here.
Val says:
Z : We are thinner than you are.
Val says:
I feel coldness, I don't know what it is.
MAYATNIK says:
Philon is just strengthening the link
MAYATNIK says:
Ask about their location, why there are four of them.
MAYATNIK says:
What do they do there.
Val says:
Why are you four there? Z : My collegues want to assist to this session.
Val says:
Do they talk too?  Z : Yes
Val says:
I mean to me, now? Z : No they don't. They are just listening and smiling.
Val says:
Where are you? Z : in a room.
Val says:
What is around you please?
Val says:
Z : The room is round.
Val says:
OK, I thank you for this communication.  
Val says:
This was my first try. Next time I'll do better.  Z : Thank you.
Val says:
P, this was not easy.  P: You know it is easy.  
Val says:
I know. I'd be better in my bed for doing this I guess. Mayatnik, I really think that I'd be better in a more relaxed position than this, at my desk. I know it's impossible to do though. I should by a portable.
Val says:
Anyway, this was stressful I must say.
MAYATNIK says:
It was important to be at the computer for this session.....and of course you can do it in bed, as that is relaxing for you.  But treat it as an intereesting conversation and it will not be stressful.
Val says:
But can I contact the Zeta from my bed? I mean, would philon connect me to them anywhere?
Val says:
I feel a yes from him...
Val says:
Butnot now. Am I right?
MAYATNIK says:
The Zeta kept the answers short beause you were nervous.  And they also wanted you to ask more about the room.....It was round.....why was it round?  Were they in a craft......Do they always have the same four there, for what they do?  Were they gathered there just for this session, and do other things?  Was it a special room.
Val says:
You are right, I did not know what to ask.
MAYATNIK says:
Philon will arrange another contact.....at an appropriate time.  The contact time has to be set up, due to scheduling of the Zeta side.  But the Zeta are happy to talk to you at any arranged time, and answer your questions.
Val says:
It's like the pendulum, at first you don't know what you want to ask, but then, when you think about it, you see all the questions you have.
Val says:
I did not hear a special sound or anything. That is the hard part.
MAYATNIK says:
If you think of it as a conversation - which it is...then simply ask what you are curious about......if a person came to your house with strange robes on then your conditioning makes you shy at asking, being direct, if you are English.....if you are French this is not as bad.....so think "Ah, that's interesting so....." and ask away.
Val says:
You're right. I'll try it next time.
MAYATNIK says:
This is an initial venture for the Zeta into this 'area' with humans...so there is not as yet a department set up specifically for this, hence the need to set up an appointment at the moment.
Val says:
But their English should be better than mine, right? So their answers should be in perfect English. One of my problem is that I have to translate right away.
MAYATNIK says:
They welcome very much this "friendly interchnage" with humans in this way......so feel relaxed and enjoy.  You have met a very old species tonight, and thei r are doing very important work for humans every day.
MAYATNIK says:
It is a matter of what is comfortable for you.  You set the parameters, not the Zeta.  They can communicate in any language easily and fluently.
MAYATNIK says:
You have to remember, that this is telepathy.......not via the mouth.....so the 'symbols' of communication come into your brain....and are 'translated' by your brain (which has imperfect Engish) so it will be as good or poor as your ability to use that language.
Val says:
Oh yes. You are right. I had not seen it like that.
Val says:
It's obvious that a Chinese and a French can do telepathy and understand each other.
Val says:
Thank's for reminding me this.
MAYATNIK says:
There are 'techniques' (actually their 'computer' - Zeta or Pleiadian) for sending in fluent language without the interpretation of YOUR brain....but that requires you to be strongly connected to their computer (and you are not at that stage yet) and also it uses a lot of your energy.....it is what was called 'Speaking in Tongues' that the Apostles did...in the same way exactly, via the Computer.
MAYATNIK says:
I have been trained to use their computer for Speaking in Tongues...so I know exactly how it works.....it takes training for this, and special techniques in sending and receiving.
Val says:
Very interesting.
MAYATNIK says:
the 'simple' way of doing that is to just 'take over' the mouth, and let the words come out... as in trance....but this is conscious telepathy, and more advanced therefore.
Val says:
So you pronounce the words you are receiving through your mouth?
MAYATNIK says:
Philon will show you.  Yes, you put your mouth into the pronouncing shape as you sense what is coming in.  The guide gives lesson in this....rather like singing-practice lessons.
MAYATNIK says:
At first, it feels like a baby trying to pronounce what it wants to say.....but it develops very quickly with training.
MAYATNIK says:
This way, you can pronounce any 'spoken' galactic language..... and you would be amazed at the sounds that can come out of your mouth!
Val says:
Wow. You should record an example and let us hear! Boy, I will need my whole life to learn all this!  
Val says:
Can you do that with dead people too?
MAYATNIK says:
It doesn't take long at all.  All it takes is dedication, and diligence.......putting the time in......I spent hours and hours learning each day.
MAYATNIK says:
Not with dead people........the nerve impulses activate the various parts of the mouth...and send blood to vitalize the muscles into the appropriate action, plus the lungs to control the vocal chords........dead people don't have any of those facilities.
MAYATNIK says:
In any case........ 'dead' means the Being that inhabited that body has gone elsewhere.....permanantly, since the body does not function any more.
Val says:
But tell me, what I "heard" from the Zeta, can you confirm it was right? Did I get some wrong answers?
MAYATNIK says:
No.....it was all correct......no wrong answers......only lack of hearing sometimes due to anxiety.

(other things followed which I cut off here...)

Hello all
First i would like to thank you Edi for that welcome [:)]
Second i would like to say that i will do a followup on the conversation since it was in my opinion brief and not detailed enough.
Should you have any questions about me/for me feel free to ask (let the hailstorm come [:P]). I realize that there are alot of questions already posted and i will have a look at them.
Warm feelings and best wishes
Fuzziwig

from one of Edi's transcripts :
"Z: The state of the human brain is linked to the electromagnetic waves it emits. As the brain controls the bodily functions, and the brain can be influenced from the outside (there was much research on this, and it is actively being done by governments), ..."

1. What can we do to prevent/minimise these influences from outside?
2. Could you recommend any technique/excercise to radically quicken our spiritual development? :)

Edi, just a thought,

Could you please try using a colour other than orange for the PLeiadian's lines please. On the light blue background you get on every second post it is hard to read.

Thanks,
James.

Question for Zetas: What happened to Phobos 2?

I have a few questions for the Zeta:

Music, as i'm sure you know, is a huge part of life. As i understand the Zeta feel no emotions, which, to me, is the core of music, but do they listen to music? Are there any types of music that give off negative vibes?

I'm just wondering about the belief the Zeta have of an after-life. For example, i've heard of a theory from Bruce Moan (sp?) that humans create their own after-life according to their beliefs, and there are different zones of after-life which vibrate at different frequencies, or something similar. Could the Zeta give their thoughts on this issue?

I recently read a book by Whitley Strieber (sp?) called "Communion" where he remembers, through hypnosis, instances where he was abducted. I remember him mentioning something about the image of an owl as a memory he thought was to screen his mind from remembering what really happened. Do these screen memories exist, are they created by the ailens or the humans, and do the Zetas create the memories? If so, is this done so as not to scare the humans?

Another question regarding Whitley Strieber: Was he abducted? If so, was it by the Zeta?

What's the significance of the triad, or the triangle symbol? Is it simply symbolic or does it give off some kind of frequency?

Can you give us any information on the 12-strands of DNA mentioned in "Bringers of the Dawn?" I realise this book is channeled by Pleiadians, but i figure you must have some information. What exactly are we capable of with these 12 strands active? Are many human's in the process of being aligned and remembering?

Thank you very much for any answers you may give us to these and other questions.

silentjohn reporting for duty (haha)
growing more aware and more awake, isn't it great?!!
we'll all be there soon!! job well done.
to the zetas: thanks for all the tips, the guides, what not...

:)  Questions ------


1) What about the zeta talk on other websites, like the forum at http://godlikeproductions.com  - Also ive noticed zeta talk updates, are they in the same format, or in a more apparant format now?

2) Any information on Kirael and the "three days of darkness"?

3) Can we simply send "Requests" for zeta guides?




lol, peace.

zx

Zeta Conversation

E: Perena, I'd like to do the session now...
P: Youd like to? Youre feeling not that good about it.. lets talk a few words in order for you to see clearly how to do it without getting too unconscious and getting stuck in details.
E: Am I doing it right now?
(I asked here about the way I received the words)
P: Yes... Let the general idea come vague and superficially, and then hear the words along those lines from or or the Zetas. Thats good. This will also show show you the framing for the answer.
E: Do I have to know anything before we start?
P: Yes... write this preliminary talk when you post it on AP, too. I open the link now.
(I feel the presence of or the connection to someone else)
Z: Hello Edi
E: Hi... do we start right away?
Z: Yes

AngelicSayan: In relation to Hale-Bopp, is the mothership what caused the whole "companion" or "satellite" hype whatever with the comet? [...] However, I have noticed the solar cycle is starting to peak again. What is the cause of that? Solar Cycle 23 has been the most unique of ALL the solar cycles on record (it did produce two nice auroral shows here, 43 degrees north latitude, both out of God only knows how many I have missed)

Z: Yes, the Mothership was the cause for that what happened regarding Hale-Bopp. We will gladly explain more about it if it is wanted... until now you Edi had some difficulties in getting deeper details, seeing and understanding it clearly.
E: And the sun cycle... was it anything special, does he differ significantly from the previous ones?
Z: No. Its not possible yet to state clearly that it is that way... the measurements are all in the range of normal deviations, and it will take some time until anomalities are unmistakeably visible.
E: What do you have to say in regards to the solar cycle peaking again?
Z: We could say its a sign for the growing influence of Nibiru. But you can interpret it as well as common fluctuation.

Tayesin: Are these Zeta Reticuli the same Grey's that are described as being around 3feet 6inches in height? Are they the same Grey's that I have seen and had contact with since my birth ?

E: Do you want to say a few words about greys in general? Is it easy to identify the different species, or are there thousands of different ones, who mix with each other and also have different orientations and variations among themselves?
Z: There are lots of different species, but its not that complicated and obscure.
E: Your answer to Tayesins question?
Z: We are not the same Greys, regarding our orientation. We are rather similar, regarding our physical appearance. We share common ancestors with them. We are not the group of Greys Tayesin is in contact with since his birth.

Who then do you say are the taller (around 5 feet in height) pale coloured Grey's ?

Z: They are their leaders and overseers.
E: Are they the same species?
Z: No. They have much genetic material in common with the littler ones, but there are other  influences that make them that big.

Would they describe the Higher-Self/Guide connections?

Z: Okay... first a few words about the higher self: everyone IS his higher self, an unseperable part of it, during an incarnation you normally have no direct connection to it, at least it looks like that... this seperation is done so you can have your experiences during the incarnation in a suitable state of mind and knowledge, to be in the dark von time to time, figuratively speaking. This way it is easier to use a life on earth to evolve further.
E: And the higher self guides you?
Z: Of course. This happens mainly through intuition. Intuition leads you the quickest way to the hot spots in your life, and out again when youre done with it. This Intuition is also clearly distinguishable from inspirations which come from the outside, if you are used to watching such perceptions. The intuition coming from yourself (from your higher self) is the best and well the only guideline you need for life.
E: And guides?
Z: They also guide.. because they want it and its an experience for them, and because many people freely accept such guidance. Its their determination to help others with their development.
E: Whats the connection between higher self and guides?
Z: Normally the souls of both know each other quite well, if its a guidance for a longer time who works closely with the person.

Will the 'pole shift' follow the description layed out by Albert Einstien?

Z: No. His model is good for certain happenings, which already did happen, but the pole shift will not happen this way.

If they are here to help us humans, then why is the information given so far been the same information that can be found in a multitude of other available sources ?

Z: Because the questions are the same, and the facts dont change that much. We dont care about other sources or try to 'pop out of the mass'.

Why are these people involved in 'The Project' being assigned Guides who they do not meet face to face in order to truly know if the beings/entitiies that are responding are their True Spiritual Guides?

Z: Its not that simple to just appear on earth, and also its not necessary. For some people its the right and necessary thing to do, but not the common case. What would such an appearance really prove about the intentions? The guide is someone to talk to, who suggest points of view and possibilities, and everyone has to decide for himself if he sees sense and help in it, and if he agrees to see where it leads to.

Who has deemed themselves to be on a level where they can ASSIGN any humanly-incarnating Soul a Guide?

Z: The guides are organized. Theres a structure those beings spend their lives in, they are part of a species, part of a civilisation, the have teachers, friends and students. If a group decides to be there for humans, its only logical that they organize themselves somehow and delegate responsabilities. If then someone from below knocks at this hierarchy, certain things can be arranged, according to the needs of the person. There are guides, and on a higher level there are supervisor guides who are responsible for the assignment and duties of the guides.

E: Okay... so we finish here?
Z: Yes... bye.
E: Bye.

Dear Edi,

Thank you for taking the time to ask my questions, I deeply appreciate it.  It does affirm what I knew about the evolution of the two main Zeta groups and it sated the curiosity I had about which group was in contact here.

I am glad that you also asked the questions I formulated to test the answer providers, that shows great courage on your behalf, and, I am well pleased with the answers.

Thank You very much.

Love Always.[:)]

Tayesin, many thanks for your kind words. Sometimes I do get the feeling that what I do here has some sense... my opinion on all this is still floaty, and I really welcome comments by people who have more personal experience than I have. I just can receive words and ideas and throw them into public consideration, and at the moment I'm mostly concerned with receiving the information correctly, which isn't easy for me all the time. I don't know where all this will lead to, but I agree to be a 'channel' for now... other people's words, both warning and encouraging, help me to keep some balance, and I'm especially glad to get some confirmation. And after all, it's quite interesting to see how people respond to this :)

H2owong & RisuNoKairu: Regarding energy body development, nature of Astral Plane, earth history, 4th dimension etc., I have to say that those are huge topics huge topics which probably can't be covered in a few sentences... I'll try to include the questions you ask about this, and the more details you ask about, the more we'll be able to form a picture of it which makes sense. When I'll have some idea of those topics, I might write a summary covering my working model, but I still lack knowledge and experience in this, so it'll take some time.

I just see that this was a rather short session... well, better than nothing :)


Zeta Conversation

P: It's 4 o'clock.. do we begin?
E: Okay, I'm just collecting the questions... do we connect already?
P: Yes.
Z: Hello Edi... nice that you keep the appointment.
E: I thought time is something totally different for you?
Z: It's different, yes... but the closer to earth we work, the more we fall in the influence of time as it is for you.
E: The more you come 'down'... I understand. Can't you communicate from 'above' with me?
Z: Yes, and it doesn't matter much if you can't keep appointments... but don't forget that we didn't transcend space and time completely. We, the Zetas, move mainly inside time and space, but with more freedom than you do.
E: Good.
Z: Before we begin, a few words to all reading this... and also regarding Tayesin's questions. Test us as you like, especially those who know some things.
E: What type of 'tests' do you mean?
Z: Nothing like 'What colour is the tail of my cat?'. Simply questions about personal ideas and experiences, to see if our answers make sense.
P: Don't worry about this wording.. it will be about understood. The previous questions which came were well in that direction.
Z: Yes... we can continue now with the next questions

h2owong: Who is God/the god that we know from bible and other religions? Is he really God of universe? Or a "middle level" god that look after earth? Or just a group of different high level spirits that role playing god when human call upon? When we call upon God. Who will respond? God of Universe? Or others?

Z: The god of the bible is a distorted, manipulated view of earlier beings who were looked upon as 'godly' because of their apparently supernatural abilities. There IS someone who 'created' this universe, and you can see a god at different levels. The philosophical model is that you collect all the intelligences, energies, and all consciousness in this universe and call the sum of it god, prime creator, or whatever you like to call it. Or you do this only on a solar system level, and find a 'god' of this solar system; some sort of being, intelligence or consciousness who on the one side IS this solar system in its visible manifestation, on the other side sustains it by some invisible forces and energies. But when we say this, don't forget that this is just our model for trying to understand reality, nothing more. There is much we have no idea of.
E: Is any 'god' a being seperate from us?
Z: No. There is no god who makes rules, laws and punishes. Prayers work not because a seperate supreme 'god' hears them, but because of 1) psychological effects and 2) beings who care to listen for requests for help, which are sortof broadcasted, directed by your intent.
E: What do those beings do then?
Z: Sometimes nothing, sometimes they give you an idea or an impulse which will bring you forward, sometimes they just send loving caring feelings, that depends on who you reach and what you need.

How about buddhism? How real is Buddha's teaching in spiritual development compared to the real situation of universe?

Z: Buddha's original teaching (which of course became distorted and decorated over the centuries) is a good guideline, as good as the true teaching of other spiritual teachers like Jesus. Buddha used the expressions and ideas from his time to convey his ideas, this is why some might not feel as comfortable with them. Every time has its own language. Get from the past what good you find, and leave the rest behind.
E: I like the saying 'pass on the fire, and leave behind the ashes'...

E: Okay... I'd say we finish here?
Z: Yes. It's better to do some quick short sessions than infrequently having a big one.
E: Good. Thank you then, and bye.
Z: See you.

iu

Okay, I have another handful of questions.  I will fully understand if the following is difficult to get answers for because I believe they might fall under the "huge question" catagory.  But these are a few things I haven't seen approached in other sites.

Cloning.

It was previously said that the Zeta's use cloning as thier means of reproduction.  With that in mind.

1.  Do you (the Zeta's) believe that we are on the right track with our own process of cloning?
2.  Did you go through the same kinds of pitfalls that our own scientists are experiencing?  That being abnormalities that have resulted in so many different kinds of failures.
3.  It is currently believed that you can not maintain a race through genetic replication alone because of cellular degridation.  Is this a problem for you or have you managed to get past that into pure genetic replication?
4.  DId your race go through the same moral conflict as our own when it comes to cloning?  That being over the implications of cloning something that can be self aware and the effect of knowing ones origins on the mind.
5.  Did your race go right into cloning for reproduction or did you first try to create clones for organ harvesting or attempt cloning individual organs for replacments?
6.  What do you think of our own moral issues with cloning bodies for the sake of organ harvesting?
7.  Did cloning become needed for reproduction or did it just seem like a good idea at the time?  And how did your race as a whole react to the idea?
8A.  This could be my own flawed view but, cloning seems to negate the idea of a soul.  The human idea of a soul is that it is not an "item" that can be replicated along with a body, ie it is not a biological function.  Is our idea of a soul in error?  
8B.  Is the soul we refer to not so much a thing but an idea?  To better describe, is what we describe a soul simply self awareness?  
8C.  If it isn't simply self awareness what effects would cloning have on our being and the soul?  Would we be without one?
8D.  And what about past lives and re-incarnation, things we believe happen because of the soul, how would cloning effect them?
9.  And just for the topper.  Because of the idea of the human soul and its function is it even possible to clone a human correctly?


Like I said I understand if the above is difficult.  My brain kinda hurts just from thinking of the possible answers.  I already have an idea on some of these because of my own beliefs on how the human soul functions.  But I would like to hear what the Zeta's have to say.

Today I had a chat with Anthony (Soulfire) - he got to know his permanent guide Reaz a few days ago (Reaz was working some time with SilenJohn before). The guides thought that he would be able to have a conversation with the Zetas, even if he doesn't feel sure about it (who does, in the beginning?)... and you'll see here how extraordinarily well he does after leaving fear and blocks behind, holding the toe in the cold water first, and then jumping in.. and it's not cold anymore. We had the last questions which were posted by cainam_nazier answered, and the resulting conversation is pretty interesting to read... so here you go. The MSN logs arent's so nice to read, but I wanted to preserve the original as it happened, I hope it's okay to read that way.

Usual colouring... me red, anthony blue, guides maroon, and zetas green.

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Anthony says:
SO any suggestions for me or words of advice from you or the guides?
Edi says:
Just explore :) Well, I can show you some things like reiki energy, or we can have a conversation with the zetas later if you want
Anthony says:
I probably need to get past some of my blockages before I could receive the zetas accurately, no?
Edi says:
But it'd be good to settle down with your new guide first for a few days
Edi says:
Oh well, I too have blockages
Edi says:
You can receive them as well as you can receive your guide
Anthony says:
I have trouble receiving when I feel like I am being watched, but Raez sais I definately need to work past that if I am going to be of use to people.  lol
Edi says:
hehe
Edi says:
Yes, work on it
Edi says:
I feel the same, but I don't know if it's a big problem for me... I have been on stage on many occasions... with concerts (I played trumped in an orchestra and a band), and with my theater group... so I'm totally used to people pointing at me, when I do silly things =)
Anthony says:
I have a difficult time feeling "silly" in front of people.  If I feel like I know what I am doing I am fine, but without that confidence first, it amplifies my fear (Raez is explaining) and the fear energy blocks my ability to receive.
Edi says:
After the first Zeta session Ed told me I was reaching a _mass audience_ ... phew... good that he didn't tell me before
Anthony says:
lol
Anthony says:
Well Raez seems to think I am ready for that, and he is kind of teasing me because I don't.  
Anthony says:
But I most definately do NOT feel ready.
Edi says:
If I think back to the moments where I have fear or act totally wrong... then most of the times I'm not very conscious in those moments... so it'd be a good way when you're in that situation to breathe deeply, wait for a few seconds, and check what you are doing and where you are
Anthony says:
*nod*  Makes sense.
Edi says:
People often underestimate their abilities and hinder their progress
Anthony says:
Raez sais I am real good at that!  
Edi says:
haha
Edi says:
See... in a few weeks you'll have that left behind
Anthony says:
Well that would sure be a quantum leap for me!  
Anthony says:
Well maybe sometime if you feel up to trying a session together and don't mind if maybe I am not too god at it, we can try.  I guess the only way I will get past it is to work through it.  hehe
Edi says:
Just look at MY first session, or the first tries of the other people, and you'll have no fear anymore  
Anthony says:
Well I do, but I am willing to try it anyway.  hehe
Edi says:
That's great  
Anthony says:
There is no sense me even having a guide if I am not willing to grow and bring some benefit to tother besides myself.
Edi says:
You bring benefit even by only growing... but you can do much more
Anthony says:
Raez sais that I have reached sort of a plateau, where it will be difficult for me to grow much more personally without breaking some of these personal barriers and taking some things to other people.
Edi says:
Everyone has his comfort zone in this regards... and it's not easy to get out there the first time
Anthony says:
Apparently those obstacles have to start to disilve before much more growth can take place.
Edi says:
but when you're out, it's not uncomfortable there... you feel comfortable everywhere
Edi says:
growth takes place by dissolving those obstacles
Anthony says: :)
Edi says: :)
Anthony says:
Well sometime when you feel it's good, you can send me an e-mail or something?  If I have advance warning, I can probably make a point to be here at any time you feel is good.
Edi says:
Do you have time now?  
Anthony says:
But unless we just bump into each other, I'll need a day's waring or so.
Anthony says:
Sure.  
Anthony says:
Although I have to admit part of me was hoping it would be later...the YELLOW part.  
Edi says:
haha
Edi says:
Let's ask raez about it..
Anthony says:
About what specifically?
Edi says:
What he thinks about doing it now.. just type what he says
Edi says:
Reaz, do you think anthony can handle this easily?
Anthony says:
I checked to see if my pendulum was at hand for verification, and he told me playfully to put that dumb thing away for now...I use it as a crutch!  
Anthony says:
R: He can handle it, but it will not "feel: easy to him.
Edi says:
You can surely do it without the pendulum!
Edi says:
Don't worry, I can check everything with raez
Anthony says:
So you guys keep telling me!  
Edi says:
Raez, will he be able to receive the information from the zetas correctly?
Anthony says:
It's funny that he has such a sense of humor about my doubts and fears.  hehe
Anthony says:
R: That is up to him.  He could, but I am not sure he will choose to.
Anthony says: :)
Edi says:
Perena made many jokes about my doubts, too... and humour is in fact the best way to handle that
Anthony says:
*nod*  
Anthony says:
Could he have hooked me up just now without my asking?
Edi says:
reaz, does he know some questions to ask? or will it just come to his mind then?
Edi says:
He'll tell you
Anthony says:
All of a sudden, I sort of see in my minds eye 3 curious looking greys looking at me?  
Anthony says:
One in front, 2 others behnd?  Did I just imagine that?
Anthony says:
R: He's not hooked up, but he is being watched?
Anthony says:
This is too wierd.
Edi says:
Reaz says to me you're precipitating ... but the link isn't made yet
Edi says:
The Zetas of course are ready when you are
Anthony says:
what does precipitating mean?
Edi says:
I have no idea to be honest, but it seemed the right word  
Anthony says:
raining?  
Edi says:
I meant that you're expecting thing, which could colour your perception
Anthony says:
Hrm...ok Raez, hook me up whenever you are ready
Anthony says:
R: Just relax Anthony
Anthony says:
ok, I'll try, but I don't feel real relaxed.  I feel kinda tingly to be honest
Edi says:
Write Z: for the Zetas... and just have a nice conversation with them... I'll check everything you write
Anthony says:
I'm not getting anyting yet....wait, I think I got:
Anthony says:
Z: Hi Anthony?
Anthony says:
Is that ok so far?
Edi says:
You can probably perceive them in your mind's eye...
Edi says:
it's perfect, just go on and don't think about it too much
Anthony says:
I still sort of see 3 of them, one more clearly in fron, looking at me.  A sense of them being calm and very intelligent
Anthony says:
Their consciousness is deeper than mine by quite a bit.  They have a lot of "depth".
Anthony says:
Z: What would you like to ask?
Anthony says:
Well, this is kind of a spontaneous decision to try this to be honest, I did not prepare any questions as I was not expecting to do this.
Anthony says:
Z: That's allright.
Anthony says:
hard to keep up with the tying for me sorry.
Anthony says:
typing
Edi says:
Take your time, you're doing fine
Anthony says:
R: It does not matter what you ask, this is just an excercise and experience for you.
Anthony says:
sense of them waiting patiently
Anthony says:
Geez...I'm sorry, I'm getting nerovous
Anthony says:
lol
Anthony says:
R: Just relax
Anthony says:
They don't seem to mind my ineptness at all, they are very patient?
Edi says:
you could ask them about how many they are... if there is only one talking to you, what the others do...
Anthony says:
I feel I can sense from them understanding, like they know what I am going through and how I feel...strong empathy with me?
Edi says:
They are very patient and understanding in that, don't worry
Anthony says:
Kindness
Anthony says:
I smile at them and I feel them mentally smiling back, but not a physical smile.
Anthony says:
Z: You are very empathetic, you communicate more easily when you dont know you are communicating.
Anthony says:
R: I agree LOL
Anthony says:
Is this on track so far?
Edi says:
This is perfect!
Anthony says:
R: Raez playfully scolds me for doubtng myself.
Anthony says:
I feel very uncomfortable, almost afraid to ask something I do not already "know" the answwer to, as I am not very good at receiving things liek that yet.
Anthony says:
Ok, do you feel the people of the earth or making any spiritual progress at all?
Anthony says:
Z: Your progression as a race right now can be accurately described as what you call growing pains
Anthony says:
Z: You are progressing, but it is slow and there is much turmoil right now.
Anthony says:
Z: Much like labour or giving birth, that pain will intensify and then it will end, leaving behind new life...spiritual life.
Anthony says:
Is this ok so far?
Edi says:
I check everything you receive... everything is ok (of course is it)
Anthony says:
Raes is pointing out that this information was received more easily because my higher self already had the framework for it, it was not totally "new" to me.
Anthony says:
R: He is still afraid to go into totally new territiry yet, but that is ok because this helps too.
Edi says:
If you provide some puzzle-pieces, it can be put together by your guide or the zetas easily.
Anthony says:
What do you mean exactly?
Edi says:
The simplest example is a yes or no question... or you ask about some idea, receive a few facts, ask more in detail, and receive information step by step.
Anthony says:
R: Receiving some information through other higher self channels, even memory, and then letting the Zetas or guides build something with them greater than the sum of the parts
Anthony says:
Cool.  
Edi says:
Exactly.
Anthony says:
R: You do this all the time, and have for much of your life, but you were unaware of it.
Anthony says:
Ok, sorry for keeping you waiting...that you for being so patient with me.
Anthony says:
Z: You are welcome, we don't mind.  
Anthony says:
Well you certainly are polite...everyone has said that, but not I experience it directly and can even "feel" it.
Anthony says:
Hrm...I feel stupid, I don't know what to say.
Edi says:
That's not stupid... if you're not blocking yourself, there are lots of things to ask
Anthony says:
R: He has things to ask, but he is afraid to and is holding back on some things still
Anthony says:
Tattle tale!  
Anthony says:
R: laughs
Edi says:
Perfectly honest  
Anthony says:
I think someone has asked some question on cloning on AP, would you mind if I looked those up and asked those?
Anthony says:
Z: That would be fine.
Anthony says:
You think that would be ok Edi?  I'm not sure if I will want them published, but at least that will take me into new territory.
Edi says:
Go on... we all are fine with that
Anthony says:
Let me find them...
Anthony says:
R: That;s what I wanted him to do to begin with, and I told him that, but he gagged me.  
Anthony says:
Which forum is that in, do you know?
Anthony says:
I cant get search to work in AP
Edi says:
Communications forum... here's the link: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=6924&REPLY_ID=58249... select those questions you like
Anthony says:
Thanks...I could not get the search page to load.
Anthony says:
Oh man, looming at these questions I am getting REALLY nerovus
Anthony says:
1. Do you (the Zeta's) believe that we are on the right track with our own process of cloning?
Edi says:
It will be good to ask those questions... just trust what you hear, so far everything was totally accurate.
Anthony says:
R: He's blocking, he started to get something but then he "blanked it out".
Anthony says:
Z: Yes, you are on the right path towards achieving the process, but at the early stages.
Anthony says:
Z: However, it is not really necessary for you as a species to develop this process.
Anthony says:
Is this ok so far or no?
Edi says:
Everything is okay.. I will jump in if something is wrong, but this is perfect.
Edi says:
Turn off your worries until we are done  
Anthony says:
I think there is more on this, but I am not getting it, so I will go to the next question and see if it comes to me later?
Anthony says:
2. Did you go through the same kinds of pitfalls that our own scientists are experiencing? That being abnormalities that have resulted in so many different kinds of failures.

Anthony says:
Z: Yes we did, and worse ones too.  They are not so much failures as they are you working thought the difficulties in learning the process one step at a time.  Nothing is truly a failure.
Anthony says:
Question added by me: Is there any danger involved in the failures, anything to worry about creating imperfect life forms or something like that?
Anthony says:
Z: There are issues, but no actual worries.  
Anthony says:
Can you be more specific please?
Anthony says:
Z: Some unpleasant things can be created and flawed life forms do not always have the most pleasant life experiences, but nothing that is easy to label as "bad" is actually bad...all things serve a useful purpose.
Anthony says:
I understand this on some level, but creating life forms that are bound to suffer seems unfair to me?
Anthony says:
Z: Think of the imtes in your own life when suffering led to something useful.  Nobody is allowed to suffer without it leading to something useful for them and the others involved in the process as seen from the complete perpective.
Anthony says:
Z: You are not always aware of the benefits, but all flows of energy are useful, including suffering.  
Anthony says:
Ok, I understand that..but it seems that knowingly creating situation for another being that we reasonably expect to be unpleasant is les than ideal behavior?
Anthony says:
Z: THis is true from a certain perspective.  You would not do this because you are at a different place than the scientists invlved.  THe people who choose to participate in this procees however have something of value to learn by the experience, both the scientists, the politiciant and funders of the projects, and even the new life forms "created"
Anthony says:
Ok sounds reasonable enough I guess.
Anthony says:
We still on track here?
Anthony says:
This is going way beyond what I expected to happen.
Edi says:
Your guide confirms that you received that correctly.
Anthony says:
I get a sense that the Zetas at least are please with the answer?
Anthony says:
3. It is currently believed that you can not maintain a race through genetic replication alone because of cellular degridation. Is this a problem for you or have you managed to get past that into pure genetic replication?
Anthony says:
Z: This is true at your level of technology, but we have worked past those problems.  If we had not, we could not have survived as a species by this process of cloning.
Anthony says:
4. DId your race go through the same moral conflict as our own when it comes to cloning? That being over the implications of cloning something that can be self aware and the effect of knowing ones origins on the mind.
Anthony says:
Hrm...I'm having trouble with this one...
Anthony says:
Z: Yes we did.
Anthony says:
Z: We have found however that you do not actually clone "awareness"...
Anthony says:
Z: Just the vehicle that awareness operates through in the physical.  The process is not fundamentally different from creating a new life through conceptions.  The vehicle becomes viable, and a soul...with it's own awareness chooses to inhabit it.
Anthony says:
Z: This is why it is not "immoral" to create even imperfect beings, because the conscious who chooses to inhabit it CHOOSES that...it is not being forced on them.
Anthony says:
Makes sense, thank you.  
Anthony says:
5. Did your race go right into cloning for reproduction or did you first try to create clones for organ harvesting or attempt cloning individual organs for replacments?
Anthony says:
Were you typing somethign Edi?
Edi says:
I was typing 'That was what you were missing before.', regarding the questions above, but thought I would write it later  
Anthony says:
Z: We bagan by cloning individual cells and worked up to more complex structures as we developed the technology.
Anthony says:
Ah...cool.  
Anthony says:
6. What do you think of our own moral issues with cloning bodies for the sake of organ harvesting?
Anthony says:
Z: THere really are no moral issues that are relevant when you see the complete picture as described above.
Anthony says:
Z: It is normal to struggle to come up with these answers, but there is nothing "wrong" with doing this.  A lot of good can come out of it, and eventually it can lead to some amazing medical breakthroughs for people with organs failing, etc.  However...
Anthony says:
Z: It is also worth noting that all of this, even replacing failing organs and extending life is not strictly necessary...
Anthony says:
Z: A person will experience an organ failure when that is appropriate for them, and will also experience the aoption to replace that organ only when that is also appropriate for them,
Anthony says:
Z: Technology can never exceed the requirements of individual souls for life experince, but will instead fit into the plan so to speak.
Anthony says:
Cool.  
Anthony says:
Is this what you meant by cloning tech not being strictly "necessary" for us as a species.
Anthony says:
Z: Partly, yes.  But there is more
Anthony says:
I'm starting to fade a bit here, but I think Raez is going to help me to continue?
Edi says:
If you want, you can go on... as you like. You've already got much here
Anthony says:
I'd like to try and finish the questions, but I am going to avoid any additional content for now even though I know it is there.
Edi says:
okay... that's fine
Anthony says:
7. Did cloning become needed for reproduction or did it just seem like a good idea at the time? And how did your race as a whole react to the idea?
Anthony says:
Z: We felt it was a more efficient means of producing vehicles for consciousness to experience.  We also felt that it allowed us to choose more specifically how we wanted to evolve as a species.
Anthony says:
Z: This was a specific choice our race made based on our own experiences and beliefs, it is not necessarily "true" for your species or any other.  In fact, cloning will NOT be the future of your species.
Anthony says:
Good, because I kind of like reproducing the old fashioned way if you don't mind.  
Anthony says:
R: thinks that was funny
Anthony says:
8A. This could be my own flawed view but, cloning seems to negate the idea of a soul. The human idea of a soul is that it is not an "item" that can be replicated along with a body, ie it is not a biological function. Is our idea of a soul in error?

Anthony says:
Z: We have touched on this so far already.  Cloning merely creates the vehicle for a sould to choose to inhabit.  You cannot clone a soul.
Anthony says:
Z: Another implication of this is that when you do succeed in cloning more complex organisms or even beings, they will not be as identical as is currently believed.
Anthony says:
8B. Is the soul we refer to not so much a thing but an idea? To better describe, is what we describe a soul simply self awareness?
Anthony says:
Z: Yes and no.  And you have to be careful here, because different people interpret the word "soul" in different ways.  Words are only a signpost.
Anthony says:
Z: In truth, things and ideas are one and the same.  Everyting is energy and exists simultaneously and manifests in many forms simultaneously.
Anthony says:
Z: So a soul is energy, it is consciousnless, it is an idea in the creator's thought processes, and there are many more leves in which it exists that most of you are not aware of yet.
Anthony says:
Z: Everyting is trule much more milti-dimensional in nature that people understand.
Anthony says:
Z: Even we are only just beginning to understand some of these levels.
Anthony says:
Wow, cool.  
Anthony says:
8C. If it isn't simply self awareness what effects would cloning have on our being and the soul? Would we be without one?
Anthony says:
Z: A being without a soul is simply a lump of tissue.  Note that each of those cells and even particles and atoms has it's own equavalent of a "soul".  What you often perceive as your sould is actuall made up of an infinite number of souls substructures of your reality, working together, communicating to each other, which makes up your sens of self.
Anthony says:
Z: You perceive yourself as individially right now, and this is true on some levels, but it is far from the complete picture.  You are a team on both the microcosm anf macrocosm level.
Anthony says:
Z: It can be said that your entire species is a single soul made up of each you you seperately as individual cells in a similiar manner to how you perceive yourself as a seperate soul composed of cells.  This dynamic is expressed on infinite levels.
Anthony says:
8D. And what about past lives and re-incarnation, things we believe happen because of the soul, how would cloning effect them?
Anthony says:
Z: It wouldn't.  Inhabiting a clone, as we have already said, is not really any different that inhabiting a form created by a biological process.  It is like the defference between deciding to drive a red car or a blue car, or maybe a chevy or ford.
Anthony says:
Cool.  
Anthony says:
9. And just for the topper. Because of the idea of the human soul and its function is it even possible to clone a human correctly?
Anthony says:
Z: It is possible, but it is not likely that this will ever occur for you species on a wide scale if at all.
Anthony says:
whew
Anthony says:
Well thank you very much for your time and willingness to talk with us.  Please accept both my personal thanks and the thanks of anybody to whom these ansers will prove helpful.  
Anthony says:
Z: We are pleased to be of assistance.
Anthony says:
R: *closing the link*
Edi says:
That was absolutely... fantastic  
Anthony says:
Wow, that was really COOL!  
Edi says:
See?  
Edi says:
It's easy as soon as you let go and relax
Anthony says:
*nod*  I really did not think I was going to be able to do it.  
Edi says:
I'm glad you tried
Anthony says:
Me too!  
Anthony says:
I have got to run for now, but thank you SO MUCH for encouraging me to try this and for checking the accuracy.
Edi says:
Do you agree that I post this on the forums?
Anthony says:
If you feel this would be useful to post, please feel free?
Anthony says:
*nod*  
Edi says: :)

Edi says:
People will enjoy it.
Edi says:
Thanks for doing that, you were great!
Anthony says:
If the information is accurate, it would be kind of cheesy not to let anybody else see it.
Edi says:
yep
Anthony says:
Well, that was a great experience...thanks to you and Raez and the Zetas for helping to make that happen.
Edi says:
To be continued I say  
Anthony says:
Actually a lot more people deserve thanks than that.  
Anthony says:
Ok!  *wave*  

Hi everyone,

Sorry for all the typos in that log.  Hopefully you can understand most of what was being said despite my lousy typing.  I am not a good typist under any conditions, but the problem was further coumpounded by having my awareness split among several different processes and conversations going on all at once and not having time to make corrections or even read over what I had typed.  Still, it was a really amazing experience for me.  I just wish I had done a better job communicating the experience.  Thanks for posting it Edi.  :)

--Soulfire

Wow, that was great you two. Well actually 6+ if we count all involved.[;)]

This is all really interesting which leads me to even more questions.


1.  If the individuals own soul/consiousness wished to continue into another body, through cloning, a blank would have to be on hand or available shortly after seperation?

2.  The way the process was explained also implies that a living thing, or rather a currently incarnated being/thing, could never be fully replicated because of the soul/consiouness.  Even if the replicated being was physically similar it would vary simply on its soul/cousiouness.  Is that correct?

3.  Okay and not to sound a little geeky, but lets see if we can get this concept into terms more easily understood by the general populas.  The interaction between the soul, cousiousness, group consiousness, and so on seems to be a bit like it is described in Star Wars with midicalorians and the force.  Would that be a fairly accurate analogy?  To clear up my meaning, that being a soul or what term is better suited, inhabits all living cells.  That together they form consiousness and bind us together with all living things.  

4.  If I am thinking correctly, which I believe I am, in essance the individual is his/her own "group consiousness"?  Just as the individual is a part of the larger group?  And ultimately the universal mind?

5.  Would all of this explain why for me, and probably others as well, why many of the answers given here, even to the odder questions, are seemingly already known?   That many of the answers given are the expected responce even if the question was not previously pondered by the individual?

Hi SoulFire,
Excellent first time experiment with contact, you did do very well.

For many years I have been trying to get people to understand that we are huge, powerful beings in our own right existing in many realms at the same time, and the form we take here is the smallest part of what we are.  So,  I was very pleased to read in your session that the Zetas are affirming that fact.  It makes all the years of being told I am weird or stupid or crazy, well worth it.

Thank You.

Edi, thank you for including the section of communication that stated to test as we will, that shows an openess that I am pleased to see.  All of it is helping to alleviate the concerns I had with this stuff.  You are doing very well Edi, so keep up the good work.

Love Always.[:)]

Hello all
Im back with another zeta conversation. I hope it will shed some light on some of your questions. [:)]
Format :
Me, my description, guides, zeta and questions and remarks

Tao:
After the pole shift would it be some kind of a drastic change in our social life - what i mean is will we be living like we do now in houses and tall buildings or more like trees and something like that OR in more advanced buildings..

Fuzziwig:
Note : As this question is a big one i chose to answer it with a remoteview. If its still required for the zeta to specifically answer the question, let me know. I ask my guide in this session to take me to a community after the poleshift.

I am somewhere in a desert with dunes around me. I see my guide on my left hand and shes running ahead. I move with her and a large structure appears. It seems to be some kind of egyptian style tomb with two small obelisk at the both sides of the entrance. I go down to the entrance which looks dark. My guide is right behind me as i move inside the entrance. There is a passage to the down left, and then a large tunnel which leads to this bright light. I move down and im out of the tunnel. There is this big city build into an oasis it seems. There are palms around the city kind of making a natural fence around the place. I look down and see alot of ppl down there walking around. Alot of small houses are there and i decide to go down to have a closer look. The city has small water canals running through the streets on the side with fresh water. They are formed in the tiles in the path which seem to be dark blue. The ppl have disappeared.
J: You are not allowed to talk to them yet
F: is it because they are from the future ?
J: yes
The houses are made of clay or similar but not with several storages. The city has a kind of arabian architecture. This house is light brown but with a thick red stripe close to the top of the wall that goes around the house. It also has a small dome on top of it. I go inside and notice that there is a bed, a small table with an oillamp. There lives a man here. A man whos task is to improve DNA. He takes great pride in his work, because he is helping out. I walk out of the house and out on the street.
F: What year is this Jopeha ?
J: 2300
F: Is there anything you would like to show me ?
J: Go see the well
There are alot of these houses forming a neighborhood. I decide to go for this well. I see the well and i can see that all the water in the canals eminate from this well. I look down the well and i see this bright white energy ....bubbling, pulsating. The energy seems to be creating all the water in the well. It looks so beautyful. I take a taste of it, its a bit warm but tastes nice and clean.
I am puzzled by these barriers that seems to be there outside the city. I go out of the city and out to the barriers. The palms are there to hold me back but there seems to be a invicible forcefield of some kind creating a spherical bend to the air. This bend is visible because things beyond are distorted.
F: What is this forcefield ?
J: Its a barrier made to keep the community safe
F: Safe from what ?
J: Safe from intruders, that wish to plunder the ppl living in the city
F: So this is necesarry ?
J: It will be necessary for a time
F: I see
I wonder where these ppl work if they work. I see in the town a house which is build differently. It has no dome and no red stripe. There is a recess in the wall making an entrance to a door. The door is a double door which has a red wood frame and stained dark blue glass forming a mosaic in the middle. I go inside and there are benches with some tools on the table. The tools are made for genetic improvement. This is the place where the man in the house is working. The tools are very hard to describe. They all fit the hand by making room for fingers. They appear in chrome.
F: What are the tools made for specifically ?
J: The one you are looking at is made for extracting dna (tong build with room for 3 fingers going up to a small device)
F: And this ? (Tong also build with room for 3 fingers and up to a small box like device but in beige color)
J: Its made for putting together dna sequences
F: SO this place is used for Dna improvement ?
J: Yes
F: Jopeha i have seen enough of this city for now, can you please connect me to the zeta ?
J: Yes
F: Hello
Z: hello
F: (i see a zeta with blue cloths)
F: It is nice talking
Z: It is nice talking to you too
F: Would you mind if i asked a couple of questions ?
Z: Not at all
F: I have been in this room before right ?
Z: yes you have
F: (the room has an oval table in the middle, there are two other zeta's sitting at the table. There are 2 oval windows on the left which shows the stars outside)
F: So this is onboard 1 of your spaceships ?
Z: that is correct

Tao:
What is you bussines on this site ? If you want to help people you aren`t helping many.. you could appear on TV and really help.. This internet propaganda (if i may call it like that) is not really helping your cause in my opinion, because the majority of people see it as mambo-jambo.. because HEY ! this is internet :)

F: Do you have any comments for this ?
Z: Our business is to inform ppl about us and about questions that they may have such as the one you ask. Second we do help many in different ways. One is of giving information to others and another is of working active with individuals in their development. As for appearing on television, it could only be a bad idea since many are still afraid of "aliens". There will be a time when we can show ourselfs, but it will be in a time were there is no fear of us.

MJ-12
I get the sense from these zetas that they are single-mindedly focused on the pole shift, or rather the post-poleshift world, and (supposedly) on sending love thoughtforms into this new world, by setting things up now.
Any comments?

Z: As a race we are often misunderstood. We have many other task. The reason why you percieve us as single minded is because we often mention the poleshift. This is because its important for your race to know about.

Euphoric_sunrise:
Music, as i'm sure you know, is a huge part of life. As i understand the Zeta feel no emotions, which, to me, is the core of music, but do they listen to music? Are there any types of music that give off negative vibes?

Z: We do listen to music which is harmonic sounds. This music eminates feelings which are feelings of joy. We listen to music when we do not have other tasks.
Z: Yes there are certain kind of music that eminates feelings that can make you negative. It is often that the feeling with the intent of the music is eminated.
F: Okay that was the question i had for this time, it was nice of you to answer them
Z: it was our pleasure
F: Goodbye and take care
Z: Goodbye

Kind regards
Fuzziwig [8]

Here is a question for our Zeta friends:
The Sun is expected to "die" in 5 billions years...  What will happen to Solar System races?  Where will/can they go?

Hi Edi and everybody from this great forum. I've read various topics of this forum and I have a plenty of questions about them.

1.What exactly is energy development good for? I'm not interested in ki balls and things like that. After I tried the NEW energy ways by Robert Bruce and I could feel the energy flowing in my body, but what is it good for? Anyway I felt mentally exhausted and didn't find the will to try it again.

2.Do drugs like marijuana help to astral project or OOBE? Anyway is it worth the side effects?

3.Is there a planet called Thiaoouba? I've read a book Thiaoouba prophecy and it contains A LOT of interesting stuff about the creation of the universe and how people came to Earth etc. and I have a simple question: Is the book true?

4.Was Buddha just an ordinary man who found a way to enlightenment? Or was he some higher being sent to teach people? And what exactly the enlightenment is?

5.What spiritual path should a novice take to make the best progress? I mean, is there some way, which could be called the best or fastest? And what should be the primary goal in one's effort?

6.What do you think of today's education? I don't know how it is in other countries but here in Czech Republic it seems to me like a wasted time. After 10 years of studying (I'm 16), what have I learned? Well, I can solve biquadratic equations, I can calculate with specific heat capacity of various substances, but how do I need these in my life? There was absolutely no spirituality or something useful for life in last few years and especially now I find it just exhausting and non-motivating to continue. Anyway, what subjects or braches do you think will be useful in the future? I'm still wondering what should I specialize in. Whether it should be something technical (like computers) or humanities (like psychology). I'm quite interested in both areas. OK, enough of this.

7.I don't know the exact date but it was in the late August in Czech Republic. It was like a fireball falling from the sky. Of course the military radars didn't see anything. A month later they said it had been a crashing plane (BS). Do you know something about it?

I think this should be enough for now and I thank you in advance for a response.
With love,
Arthelion

Just be reminded for people who are wishing to grow spiritually.

There are danger of spiritual mis-information. Suicide cult is one of the extreme. The danger lies to the fact that when you incorperate such spiritual mis-information to your life. Such mis-information can hinder one's own effort to grow spiritually.

Buddha had once said that any beliefs that we accept as true without personal verification are called `superstition`. He also said that the truth can only verified through one's own realizations of the fruits of manifestations of the essential universal truths. (this is an important part of cultivation of mind)

Buddha emphasised of independent thinking. He wanted his students to reach his own conclusions and not following what he said and accepted as truth.

I know what you mean, bomohwkl. I don't want to follow any cult or even religion. I could say I'm a Buddhist because I accept many of Buddha's teachings, most of which cannot be denied because they're simple facts based on common sense and not "superstitions". However there are some points I simply don't believe. Reincarnation as an animal for example, and the realms of devas, gods, devils etc. These are ideas that cannot be proved. But here a new question arises. It has been stated somewhere on these pages that Buddhism has changed since the time of Buddha or his followers. It shocked me. I thought if there was a religion that has not been corrupted by greediness and desire for power and more and more power it would be Buddhism. Guess I was wrong[:(]. So there is another question for the Zetas:

8. How has Buddhism changed since the time of Buddha?

With love in heart,
Arthelion

Arthelion,

Looked at what Buddha had said. I am very sure that Buddha never mention about the realms of devas, gods, devils and even reincarnation, not even a human rebirthing as an animal.

The source of information is from `Sayings of Buddha` a publication by `An Asiapac Publication.

It is the same with Christianity. Look at what Jesus had said and throw away what other people has added. You will be amazed!
A good book is the Gospel of Thomas specifically translated by M Meyer
http://home.epix.net/~miser17/Thomas.html

can i have contact with  guides on msn im not sure what to do so can some one help thanks

feel free to contact me on msn

silentjohn@doitbig.org

or AIM

silentjohn

Hello everybody!

I've got some questions for the Zeta to answer:

1. Where does Atlantis fit in the Zeta's picture of Ancient times, when Sumer was still around? In this regard, can you give a chronology of all the civilisations that inhabited the earth up to this day? (Hope it's not too much to ask)
2. Why did Sumerians disappear?
3. How spiritually advanced were they?
4. Was this planet inhabited by any civilised species before humans?
5. Did the beings from Nibiru create any species through genetic manipulation?
6. Who created the Zeta?
7. Do you have a language of your own? If so, can you give a sample?
8. Was it your species that visited my cousin a long time ago? If not, what species was the being that visited her?

I would appreciate it if you could elaborate on each question a bit, if possible. Thanks to the Zeta and to Edi for all the great channeling.

Best Regards,
Pablo.

E: Hi Zetas.
Z: Hi.. you forgot the introduction, to write how you set up the link ... but never mind. This won't be a problem. We're glad you're continuing this now after a rather long break.
E: Yes.. it was about time. Anything more to add, or do we begin with the questions?
Z: Nothing to add, go on.

no_leaf_clover: The Bible Code, is it real? If it is, who came up with it?

Z: It's bovine excrement, bluntly said. There is much symbolism and structure in the bible, but not in the way that you find secretly embedded messages by looking at certain patterns. Concerning the overall reading-value of the bible: it's distorted. The things you find in it are mostly useful for emphasizing what you already know and feel to be true. To take it all literally would bring you further away from it's original purpose: to unify, not to seperate. People can use the bible as a justification for all sorts of actions, if gives them a cause to believe in god, but things like that shouldn't depend on a book. The overall message is clear, and putting too much attention in details will bring you nowhere.
E: Could you be more specific on the purpose of the bible?
Z: It was intended to be a transcript of Jesus' teachings and messages, and not a means of control and justification. Those teachings were good for the time then, and still have their value today, as long as they are read in context. It should lead people together, and help them realize their connection to everything that is.
E: Wasn't the Bible only made up of older teachings, believes and mythologies mixed together?
Z: Partly yes.
E: So how can the 'overall message' be useful, if big parts of the bible shouldn't be taken too seriously? What is this message?
Z: Two words: love and god. Which essentially are the same. We know that the bible and the church aren't regarded as great things by some people... and we agree here. Take the best and leave the rest. The overall message is what you get when you take those things that resonate with your own love and truth, and the rest shouldn't bother much. There's not much sense in talking about the value of such spiritual books anyway, because all they can do is to point to some direction, and leave the rest to you... and we emphasize again that you find the right way only inside of yourself. It's easy to justify your actions with the lines of a holy book,  but it's more difficult to stand up for it yourself.

RisuNoKairu: These other alien species on the ship, could you describe them? What does the ship look like? What's it orbit? Are there certain times that people can see it? Do you guys like chocolate?

Z: Oh, there are lots of species here... some humanoid, some not, there are the nordics, pleiadians, andromedans, we. The nordics are called so because of their appearance, which resembles that of nordic people... tall, muscular, light hair. The andromedans are too very human-like. The ship is, seen from the outside, big, metallish-gray, and 'block'-like.. meaning that it is no wheel or has no fancy turrets or towers.
E: Is it orbiting around the sun?
Z: Yes, at the same angular velocity as the earth. It's quite some distance away, so it couldn't be seen easily even if it was in the physical 3rd dimension.
Z: As far as chocolate is concerned, we don't have it up here. Sugar is not that important for our metabolism.

no_leaf_clover: What exactly was the Flatwoods Monster?

Z: It was mainly a big story. There was something going on there, but reports of it have been exaggerated.
E: Was it an alien?
Z: Yes. It was an accident.
E: Were you in any way related to it?
Z: No.
Was that one of the species that's been monitoring Earth?
Z: No species you know. And it didn't do 'monitoring' in the sense we do.

Do you Zetas listen to music for entertainment or is that something that applies more to beings that have emotion?

Z: We know music and use it ourselves to express harmony and beauty. For us it's a kind of art, as it is for you. Music can represent patterns, structure, chaos, information, and we use it to express ourselves.

Tao: After the pole shift would it be some kind of a drastic change in our social life - what i mean is will we be living like we do now in houses and tall buildings or more like trees and something like that OR in more advanced buildings..

Z: After the pole shift, social life will of course change. The outside manifestations, like houses, streets, infrastructure etc., will be rebuilt where needed and won't be that different from today, but what will change is how people relate to each other. Technological advances won't come suddenly, and the style of constructing buildings you are used to will probably continue.

Zeta tells us they are more spiritually evolved than we are.. They also say they lost their emotions and that they are based more on technology than on nature and mind thoughts creation or something like that.. How come - why do they need teachnology for ?

Z: We need technology in our daily lifes, for 'industry' (i.e. processing of raw materials to produce goods), for healthcare, for science. We are, in that sense, not living a pure natural life, but after all, technology is a part of nature, and as long as the rest of nature is respected and treated well, we see no problem in having technology very present in our lifes.
E: Why is technology a part of nature?
Z: Because we are. If a monkey uses a stone to crack nuts, this is consideres natural behaviour, or using a 'natural' tool. Everything is nature, but it can be more or less be in tune or in harmony.

Zetas.. you told us that you can not give us a specific date.. but on zetatalk it says that Nibiru is somewhere near Saturn and it also says that it takes 3 months for the Nibiru planet to pass through our Solar System.. So we have a date.. Logically the pole shift will appear in maximum ONE month.. Or are you not in contact with Zetatalk (you said you are)... Where did you spread false information.. here or there ?

Z: All things regarding the dates are the same... look what we say WHAT will happen, not WHEN, because the when will not be answered and it will be clear when it's time.

You want to unify the 2 species... The Humans have nothing to say about that ? I for example am against it..

Z: We don't affect you directly, in that we would shape your body anew or something like that... this change will be gradual, and it has been decided together with humanity, even if your consciousness doesn't know of it. We won't go around collecting votes on earth, this has been decided on a higher level.

E: Okay... I'd say we stop here, I'm getting tired.
Z: That's fine, we can continue at any time.

(Edited to improve formatting)

They didn't answer my final question...

"Do you like chocolate" is a yes or no answer question. All they said was they don't have chocolate on their ship.

Hmm. You (they) say we'll be able to fly when we shift... Sounds fun. Will we be able to fly into space and stuff without protective gear, also? What sort of rules of reality as we know them will be altered, forgotten, and stay the same?

Zeta Conversation

P: Perena, are you there?
P: Yes, I am. Even if you didn't talk to me the whole day, the link is up and stable, you just have to use it.
E: Fine. Can you explain to me why I've got difficulties with certain questions?
P: The Zetas can probably explain it to you... it's their stage here.
E: Okay... are they ready for a conversation?
P: Yes, they've been waiting... I'll hook you up.

(I can see a room with several beings in it now with my inner awareness)

E: Hello?
Z: Hello, we are here. This is the same 'room' you've seen since the very beginning.
E: Is this a real room with doors, or just something which is visualized or imagined to have a certain 'frame' for us doing those conversations?
Z: No, this is a real room. We are operating near the physical plane, so it's natural that we have to walk around like you do, and not just going there with our awareness. Yes, we can go there with our awareness, whereever we like to, but not with our bodies.
E: But can't you walk through walls here on earth and stuff like that?
Z: Oh, it's not our 'normal' mode of operation. It's not that straightforward to do if our bodies are actually in the physical.
E: Does this mean you can take your bodies from the fourth dimension you are in to the third and back?
Z: Yes, exactly. We still have bodies up here, and if we want to do work in the physical, we have to lower our frequency, so to say.
E: I understand. One thing I am worried about is that I can't get straight direct answers to some questions... talking like this is easy, and your answers just come to my head, but when I come to questions such as "what exactly is xyz", some part in me blocks, or I just don't seem to be able to hear you as easily.
Z: That's partly because your mind tries to understand everything it processes, and if it doesn't have something to relate it to, it automatically thinks "well, in this case I just can't know that, I don't know where to put it". The other part is that you're afraid to making errors in public.
E: That's true. But anyway, that is getting better I guess... as long as you say I get accurate information it's okay. It's only that when such questions come up, I get stuck with details, and tense up mentally...
Z: Don't care about it. Get what you can, if it's not enough for people they can always give you more detailed questions to relay, so you can slowly build up the whole idea. For questions like how did buddhism change, it would be comfortable if you read some things about what is considered buddhism nowadays, so we can comment on it more easily, as you provide the framework in which we can work.
E: Okay.
Z: Don't worry too much, if something blocks go on and come back to it later... if you stare at the blockage, it won't go away. Relaxing is the key.
E: Then I'll relax and answer some questions.
Z: That's fine. One thing we have to add before we begin... there are no questions you have to be afraid of, it's us who give the answers, and as long as you can hear 'yes' and 'no' accurately there's no problem at all. You will notice that when you come back later to questions you avoided, you'll have a better approach now than you had some time ago.

"[...] the brain can be influenced from the outside [...]"

Ashen: Q: 1. What can we do to prevent/minimise these influences from outside?

Z: First of all, your brain is not you. Of course you can be affected if you blindly follow the patterns in your mind, but the best defense against such mind control is to be conscious. This control cannot really force you to do something you don't want to do, it rather makes you believe you want to do it. You subconscious can pick up messages, and even if your mind is full of junk, if you are aware of what is going on inside of you you always have to chance or possibility for not giving in to such subtle suggestions implanted into your head. You will notice that this sounds similar to the way guides work - nudging your mind into a certain direction, giving subtle ideas. That is true, it can be compared, that's why it's even more important to be self-conscious and to base your actions not simply on random junk in your mind. The first defense you can apply, in that sense, is awareness and consciousness. If you are weak and lazy, your naturally active mind could become more and more passive and unknowingly influenced by such things. But you can always let those messages come , with the intent to clearly see what they say, to recognize them, and to say yes or no to them, while staying fully aware of yourself. That's probably better than blocking them off into the unconscious, which doesn't filter them that way.
E: What about ... aluminium helmets, or whatever people use to shield themselves from that things?
Z: Such devices work, but they aren't necessary as long as you're not intensely and specifically bombarded with such messages... consider them like ear-plugs if your neighborhood is too loud. Too loud sounds can damage the ears.

2. Could you recommend any technique/excercise to radically quicken our spiritual development? :)

Z: You probably expect something like "move you energy from a to b, visualize a golden sphere, and boom your vibration increased by 20Hz". We have to disappoint you here, the answer is: live with enthusiasm, don't run away from things you should face, be down-to-earth and learn your lessons. Your spirituality is not seperated from your life on earth, and spiritual development comes through experience, not through techniques and exercises.
E: How does energy work affect our spiritual development?
Z: It can affect your perception of things, and it's similar to physical work-out, just on a different level. A strong and trained body doesn't make you more  'spiritual' than anyone other, and the same applies to other levels. If you are aware of energy (as more and more people are), it makes sense to train the body in that way, but it shouldn't be overdone, either. Natural, gradual development comes along automatically if you live close to your own nature.
E: It's like... people who sit and eat and do nothing else the whole week, and want to do some exercises in the weekend to keep their body fit.
Z: Exactly that's it. The best training of everything is achieved by using it in a natural way; maybe not the quickest training, but the safest and most stable one.
E: So if a thoughful diet and regular movements of all body parts gives you a natural body... what would be natural for the energy body?
Z: You always get messages from your body on what you should do. If you eat too much and feel bad - don't continue that way. On an energy level, if you feel weak or spaced-out or ungrounded or just uncomfortable in a part of your body, look at what you've done in the time before that, and see if you can find anything. If you spent time with a person who got on your nerves, how did you deal with that in that situation? Blocking, relaxing, accepting, denying - you will get to know how your energy level and body are influenced by your experiences in the world by that, if you make it a regular habit of looking at it.

Euphoric_sunrise: Music, as i'm sure you know, is a huge part of life. As i understand the Zeta feel no emotions, which, to me, is the core of music, but do they listen to music? Are there any types of music that give off negative vibes?

Z: Yes, emotions are for many people the core of music. But it can also be seen from different angles. You can feel the music in every part of you, you can dive into it, this is is what humans emphasize on... feeling, and experiencing through feeling. You can see it from a more mental perspective (to reinforce once again our image of cold, mental beings, which seems to be true from your side, but it still a bias and only a part of what we really are), and perceive the elements of the music in that way. Music doesn't make our bodies produce all those hormones which make you feel this or that way, but it's great nevertheless and we enjoy it. That doesn't mean we have an orchestra here, and some CD boxes from home for this long yourney, but music is nothing we don't know. About negative vibes: yes, music can carry negative 'vibes' as well. That depends on what is negative for a person, but there is music which is plain aggressive or similar... it's all determind by the ones composing and playing their music, as it was them who brought it to life, and their imprint is there.

I'm just wondering about the belief the Zeta have of an after-life. For example, i've heard of a theory from Bruce Moan (sp?) that humans create their own after-life according to their beliefs, and there are different zones of after-life which vibrate at different frequencies, or something similar. Could the Zeta give their thoughts on this issue?

Z: It's true that after you finish live, it needs some time to get used to your new surroundings, and many of the old believes you had your whole life are still with you then and superimpose themselves on your perception and awareness. This is why, on a higher level, where things manifest more easily, you first create your after-life according to your beliefs, if you need to still have a certain experience (to round off your life, so to say), or if you just don't want to let go yet. There are different zones, yes, where people can land, depending on their 'vibration'... they are attracted to those places, and live there until the move on. What basically happens between incarnations is that you review your past life experiences, integrate them in your whole being, which means that you get to see clearly the lessons you learned, and then you move on and prepare for whatever you do next. Most of the time (or most people) then just go straight on to their next life.
E: I've read one time that after death you go up and up, always higher until you get to some source, and then you start to descend again until you incarnate.
Z: How far 'up' you go, depends... some souls bring their awareness to higher levels for a period of rest, others don't; in general, from your point of view, you only go up one level, get things sorted out for the past and the future (learned lessons, next life), and then go down again. That's a rough schema, though.

E: I think I'll finish here. I really enjoyed this session, it flowed and flowed... probably because these questions were easy.
Z: Yes, they were, but nevertheless it's important to answer them. The easy questions are often the most important ones. That doesn't mean we don't care about details, only that it's good to have a general understanding before going too deep into details.
E: I totally agree :)
E: So... good night, it was a real pleasure to talk to you this time.
Z: So it was for us. Sleep well.

zz

Oh I have a question.  I don't know if it was asked or not though.  

Have there ever been beings on the planet that seem similir to humans, but have animal characteristics?

When the pole shift occers will everyone have better access to the astral?

Thanks if you ask them.  This is an interesting read.

I can't believe I'm doing this....I'd like to have a conversation with the greys (I refuse to call them Zetas) if it can be arranged.

What's happenign to me?

PM me oe email me if you can.

MJ...

The Ra Material? Was channeled by Carla Rueckert from the Ra beings (Ra is a 6D group, not an individual "god").

Carla was severly punished by negs for channeling them and even contracted Lupis. I had conversation with her a few years back, but haven't spoken to he for some time. I could try to find her email address if you like?

No, I don't think that's why you asked the question...sorry[}:)]

as

Hey, t'other day I was listening to C2CAM, and the host was, uh... some guy who wrote those "Journey Through the Sacred Garden" book or something. He's some guy with music that triggers out of body experience. ( I want his books and his CDs, they played samples and I could feel them starting to work)

Anyways, he said he communicated with beings that looked like how you describe yourselves (or how the people talking to you describe you). He said that they said that they're merely particles of consciousness that exist everywhere and that they're the builders of the universe. They keep things together, and that the tall, big ones that look like htem are hte destroyers, that try to take apart the universe.

You wouldn't happen to be either of these, would you?

Got some more questions.

So, you guys have different groups with different tasks? Do you know what other tasks the other groups do?

Do you always stand in that room  waiting for these guys to talk?

How many other  aliens look like you guys?

Why do you guys have such a bad reputation?

How come none of hte other alien species on the ship ever come to your sessions? You should grab one and have him talk.

How many species are on the ship,l again?

So, uh, what exactly is the ship made out of since it can go back and forth between 3D and 4D?

How exactly do you guys do that?

Here are some questions I've came up with that've been on mind recently and a while back.

1) What is behind the Chupacabra stories?

2) What is the cause of 'spontaneous human combustion'?

3) What are in the other galaxies of the physical universe and has each galaxy been designed to support a type of life?

4) How would you compare the kind of music you usually listen to with the kind of music we usually listen to and is it possible for 'Zeta music' to be transcribed into something we can hear?

5) Who built Stonehenge and from where did they receive their astronomical information?

6) Are tales of Atlantis based on a civilization that actually existed once?

7) From where did the 'seed of life' spread to Nibiru?

8) What happened to dinosaurs and what purpose did they serve here? Were they wiped out so Earth could start supporting mankind?

Thanks

What's the deal with crop circles?

Zeta Conversation

Another short one... I haven't been able to find much time for this lately, but at least I'm catching up with all the old unanswered questions now.

no_leaf_clover: Question for Zetas: What happened to Phobos 2?

Z: This probe was destroyed as it came near Phobos, the moon of Mars.
E: Why? Is there something on Phobos which doesn't want to be known?
Z: On Phobos, there are the inhabitants of Nibiru.  It's not allowed for mankind to meet them.
E: Who's preventing them from this?
Z: The same ones who are watching earth at this moment.
E: And who destroyed Phobos 2 then?
Z: Those on the moon Phobos. They want to remain undisturbed there.
E: Ok, so why isn't it allowed to meet them?
Z: Because of what happened in your past... basically, they used to use their physical strength and technological superiority to control humans and use them for whatever they liked, much like slavery. This got too much at one point (this was several thousand years ago), so this was put to an end by higher forces, so man could go on in his development undisturbed.

euphoric_sunrise: I'm just wondering about the belief the Zeta have of an after-life. For example, i've heard of a theory from Bruce Moan (sp?) that humans create their own after-life according to their beliefs, and there are different zones of after-life which vibrate at different frequencies, or something similar. Could the Zeta give their thoughts on this issue?

Z: After death, you have some time to sort out remaining issues... strong beliefs, denials and fears, convictions, all those attract you to a place where you can experience them until you have finished those lessons. You don't create this after-life from scratch, but rather get attracted and go to a place which is like this. After this is done, most people prepare for their next life, after reviewing the one they just had with special 'teachers', similar to a school.

I recently read a book by Whitley Strieber (sp?) called "Communion" where he remembers, through hypnosis, instances where he was abducted. I remember him mentioning something about the image of an owl as a memory he thought was to screen his mind from remembering what really happened. Do these screen memories exist, are they created by the ailens or the humans, and do the Zetas create the memories? If so, is this done so as not to scare the humans?

Z: Yes, those screen memories exist. Sometimes the human mind can't make much sense of a situation, but this doesn't happen to the extent of covering a whole experience like this with an image of an owl. So this image was not created by himself, but by the ones who initiated this experience. They were oriented positively, and got the message to his subconscious - he would have blocked off too much of it if he had kept it in his conscious mind. His memory was not erased, but only covered, because it wouldn't do good to force the mind to forget something it has already engraved in its neurons.
E: What is responsible for memory? The brain? Or is memory also stored somewhere else, e.g. in non-physical bodies?
Z: During your life on earth, your brain is the link to memory. It does not store the memory itself, but it stores the references to it. As long as you are operating in this body, you will most likely need the brain to access memory. Of course there are other forms of existence, where you don't have to remember, but have instant access to information.
E: Is it like this after death? Or do we work like this when we are enlightened, ascended, or whatever?
Z: After death, the senses of the physical body don't get in the way anymore. This makes more and more direct acquisition of knowledge possible... if you want to know something, you just direct your mind there and 'look' at it, or perceive it in any way. This is not feasible (and not necessary anyhow) while living in the physical - your bodies are made that way, and sometimes it is good not having everything present at once. It will at some point in your evolution be that you are not anymore concerned with _holding_ information, but with _understanding_ it, and realizing it in your life. At the moment this is mixed.

E: I'd like to finish for now, okay?
Z: As you wish. We're looking forward for the next time, when you're more relaxed... you weren't that focussed this time, but don't worry, you didn't get anything wrong. Good night for now.
E: Thank you, bye.

Hi Edi,

I have a question to the zetas,

Sometimes I feel myself living in more than one dimension at the same time, that's one reason I believe why I could have precognition experiences, but what the zetas think about this?


Best regards

Hey girls and boys,

I've just had a nice session with Glenn (ImmortalSource here on the forums) and his guide, and we ended up talking to the Zetas... which went just fabulous, so have fun reading this transcript!

Glenn in blue,
Edi in red,
Zetas in green and
Sherna, Glenn's guide, in maroon!

Glenn says:
Hey Edi
Edi says:
Hi!
Glenn says:
Hows u?
Edi says:
Quite fine, I'm more relaxed now... earlier this evening, there were lots of things going on which kept my mind from focusing.
Glenn says:
Yes, im relaxed to, had a long chat with people, so im feeling good at the moment
Glenn says:
You wanna try anything?
Edi says:
Sure   If everything's quiet at your place (as it is here), I'd like to have a conversation with your guide here on MSN.
Glenn says:
The TV is on, but i block that out  
Edi says:
That doesn't matter if you're able to keep your focus here.
Glenn says:
Yes, sure thats ok then
Glenn says:
If im saying somthing wrong, because your more advanced than me, will you be able to tell and correct me please?
Glenn says:
So i know if im saying it myself
Glenn says:
:)
Edi says:
I'll check everything you write with your guide, and add myself where it is necessary.
Glenn says:
Thats good then!  
Glenn says:
How will you have a conversation with my guide?
Glenn says:
You ask me the q's
Glenn says:
i tell you the answer?
Glenn says:
Ill put my status as away for now, so no1 bothers me
Glenn says:
:)
Edi says:
We will have a 3-way conversation here, or 4 if we include my guide... you'll relay what I ask here to her, and write down her answers. At the same time, I'm in direct contact with Sherna to check how to proceed. Is that okay?
Glenn says:
AutoMessage: I'm not available
Glenn says:
Thats fine
Glenn says:
AutoMessage: I said I was not available
Edi says:
Ah, you could turn off your AutoMessage which says you're not available.
Glenn says:
Cant be doping with that
Glenn says:
lol
Glenn says:
doing*
Glenn says:
We could also post this on AstralPulse.com
Glenn says:
:)
Edi says:
That would be good for the others there.
Glenn says:
Sure would
Glenn says:
Ill begin when your ready
Edi says:
Say hi to sherna from me
Glenn says:
She says "Hello Edi"
Glenn says:
ill put it as S: from now on
Edi says:
That's fine.
Glenn says:
:)
Edi says:
Hello Sherna, it's a pleasure to meet you.
Glenn says:
S: its a pleasure to meet you two Edi, how are you doing?
Edi says:
I'm very fine now, thanks... this is another evening where I got 'caught' on MSN, there's always so much to talk.
Glenn says:
S: Yes there is, and Glenn is advancing quickly"
Edi says:
Yes, I was amazed by that... he's surely having a good start with you there.
Glenn says:
S: and im glad to, 16 years ive waited!
Glenn says:
S: Hes just still not sure on the part which many people get caught up on.......Is it him, or me
Edi says:
That's natural. I've seen it with so much people... but I guess only experience can show what it really is. And after all, there's nothing to be afraid of.
Glenn says:
S: He can see me, he keeps seeing me, he knows what i look like now, though he is not 100% sure of it
Glenn says:
S: you're dead right, there is nothing to be afraid of, but people just dont 'Accept' what is happening
Edi says:
Do you suggest we should do anything to improve his link, or just go on talking like this?
Glenn says:
S: I think gradually we need to improve hs link, so he can be 100% focused and sure of what is happening, because as of now, he is not, he belives its real, but cannot 'Accept' it 100%
Glenn says:
S: But he will do soon
Glenn says:
S: but for now, we shall talk like this
Edi says:
That's what you said directly to me, thanks for saying the same here  
Glenn says:
S: Its a pleasure
Glenn says:
Edi, i dont understand what you mean there?
Edi says:
You see, I too like to have confirmation and validation every now and then, even if I should have no doubts at all about it.
Glenn says:
<<<Just turniong the TV off
Glenn says:
Donmw
Edi says:
... I've asked Sherna directly via telepathy if we should just talk on or play some game to improve the link
Glenn says:
Done*
Glenn says:
What does she say?
Glenn says:
S: Play a game?
Glenn says:
I think i got
Glenn says:
Im unsure
Edi says:
Like, if we should do some visualisations, or playing hide-and-seek...
Edi says:
Stay relaxed, you're doing fine
Glenn says:
S: Glenn was very good at hide and seek with mayatnik
Glenn says:
Im good at everything   Joke
Edi says:
Yes, I've read that... it's fun at first, especially when you discover that it's easy.
Glenn says:
S: Glenn knows its easy, he just needs to 'dig deap' and find his true self
Glenn says:
S: hes yet got a lot to learn
Edi says:
We all have to.
Glenn says:
True
Glenn says:
S: As Glenn just said.......True
Glenn says:
lol
Edi says:
:)
Glenn says:
S: Ahh, Glenn feels like he is getting better at this, hes becoming more 'focused on me'
Glenn says:
Yup, i sure am!
Edi says:
Talking like this on MSN really helps with this, because then you can't think too much about it, and just type.
Glenn says:
Exactly
Glenn says:
Sherna said that, forgot the S:
Glenn says:
S: never mind, it's Ok  
Edi says:
So now that it's rolling like that, would you two like to have a conversation with the Zetas?
Glenn says:
I get butterflies when you said that because it gets me excited
Glenn says:
S: dont get too excited Glenn, it can get you out of focus
Glenn says:
Sorry
Glenn says:
S: Dont worry about it
Edi says:
It's just ... talking.
Glenn says:
S: But yes Edi, he would love to
Glenn says:
:)
Edi says:
That's why I ask.
Edi says:
The Zeta representative is standing ready, and Sherna can connect you as soon as you're ready.
Glenn says:
Ok......Im ready!
Edi says:
I'll stay in the background and watch... feel free to ask them anything you like.
Edi says:
You can tell Sherna to connect you.
Glenn says:
Connect me please Sherna
Glenn says:
S: Okies
Glenn says:
I am seeing four, its this correct Edi? Please tell me if i am wrong, it will help me to progress.........
Glenn says:
Or two
Glenn says:
:)
Glenn says:
lol
Edi says:
Ask them about it  
Glenn says:
S: Take your time Glenn
Glenn says:
Ok, Ok, Right now i will not be answering any questions from AstralPulse.com until im 100% sure, is this ok?
Glenn says:
Z: That is fine
Glenn says:
Hello
Glenn says:
Z: Hello Glenn, glad to have you with us
Glenn says:
Im more glad to have you with me
Glenn says:
Z:  
Glenn says:
I will start by asking, are you on the mothership?
Glenn says:
Z: yes we are
Glenn says:
Your'e the representitve yes?
Glenn says:
Z: yes
Glenn says:
Right, is there anything you would like to add to me at this time or to anyone?
Glenn says:
Z: Not right now.....Thats ok
Glenn says:
Z: Were here to answer your questions
Glenn says:
Z: And to help you as much as i can
Glenn says:
First off, planet X, nancy said you said this would happen may 2003, but this hasnot, how come?
Glenn says:
Z: It was a mis interpretation from nancy, we did not give that date, as we cannot tell when it is going to happen as of yet, but the people on Earth will know when it is going to heppen because of the signs
Glenn says:
What signs will these be?
Glenn says:
Z: Volcanoes, more hurricanes, Migrating birds to the wrong place, things like that
Glenn says:
Do you want to add anything Edi?
Glenn says:
S: id like to add Glenn, that your doing Very Well! very pleased for you
Glenn says:
Thanks Sherna
Edi says:
Yes... there was a purpose behind that date.
Edi says:
Try to find out more about it.
Glenn says:
What was the purpose behind that date?
Glenn says:
Z: the purpose was to see how the "Government" would prepare for this, we seen how they prepared, and i can tell you that they do not care about your safety
Glenn says:
Why dont they care about the 'peoples' safety?
Glenn says:
Z: Because they are interested in knowing everything first, before anyone else, this is how they work, they like to keep it a 'Secret'
Glenn says:
Im going to ask you something i dont know, to see how i am prgressing, to see what answer i get, and Edi and my guide can clarify this for me ok?
Glenn says:
Z: That is fine with us
Glenn says:
let me think.........
Glenn says:
Are there 'Aliens' On planet mars?
Glenn says:
Z: Not on the Surface
Glenn says:
Z: But underneath the ice
Glenn says:
Z: The whole which you see on mars were created from mining
Glenn says:
You said that another species created the pyramids, yet why would there be egyptian writing on the walls, and not your language or their language?
Glenn says:
Z: This is because when we built it, for rest, we left, we did not mark anything, nothing at all, as of what i know, yet when the Egyptians arrived, they carved into it, making it look like they built the pyramids, they did not intentionally do this to kake you think they did, they were just 'curious'
Glenn says:
A right, i get it now
Glenn says:
Thank you
Glenn says:
Z: its a pleasure
Glenn says:
Edi would you like to add anything as i have no further questions as of yet
Glenn says:
S: Dont worry about it Glenn, you've done really good
Edi says:
You're doing fantastic, yes.
Glenn says:
S: Whenever you want to end, just say the magick word  
Glenn says:
Well i dont want to waste their time, so i would like to end it here
Glenn says:
I thank you for your time and patience, would you like me to post this on AstralPulse?
Glenn says:
Z:Yes
Glenn says:
S:Yes
Glenn says:
Ok thank you and goodbye
Glenn says:
Z: Goodbye...
Edi says:
Great!
Glenn says:
Ok Edi, that was real good, but first, i really gotta peeeeeeeeeeeeee
Glenn says:
lol
Glenn says:
brb
Glenn says:
Im Back
Edi says:
Some remarks... as you have seen with the question regarding the date, it is important not to just finish with the first question, but to ask from other sides if something couldn't be clear yet... to ask about the surroundings of that topic, and whatever could be important.
Edi says:
Much can come in by that, and will give a much clearer picture than by just one question.
Glenn says:
Were the answers correct, or did it all come from me?
Glenn says:
Ill keep that in mind
Glenn says:
I feel tired after that for some reason why is this?
Edi says:
You've heard accurately what they said, as your guide can confirm.
Glenn says:
:)
Edi says:
Emotional tension... you were stressing yourself because this is new to you.
Edi says:
I too needed to take some deep breaths after my first time  
Glenn says:
You can post this one Edi, just remember to tell them who i am Glenn, and on the forum ImmortalSource  
Glenn says:
Yes, i feel tired
Glenn says:
and breathless
Edi says:
Rest and breathe, you've done very well here.
Glenn says:
Thanks, i will
Edi says:
Your guide can arrange for such sessions whenever you like if you tell her in advance.
Glenn says:
Like tell her now?
Glenn says:
Before i even finishe, i got "yes yes yes yes yes lol"
Glenn says:
Thats the thing also Edi, when i am asking a question, i always seem to know the answer before i have asked it
Glenn says:
Its wierd
Glenn says:
:)
Edi says:
I meant you can contact the zetas whenever you like, on your own (with your guide's help).
Glenn says:
Ok thank you, i will  
Edi says:
Sherna can tell you much about the mechanisms of telepathy... how the answers come, how the translation takes place and so on.
Glenn says:
Ill ask later on after ive rested
Glenn says:
:)
Edi says:
I often get the answer the exact moment I begin to formulate the question.
Edi says:
You'll have time to do that.
Glenn says:
Yes, that how it works with me lol
Edi says:
Another thing... it's very good to (as you did) formally initiate the contact, and then close it again, to create the right 'frame' around it.
Glenn says:
I dont understand....
Glenn says:
Edi, will you please tell me a few things which you know that the Governemt does not want us to know, please?  
Glenn says:
After that contact with the Zeta's, im all shaky
Edi says:
I meant: you say "Please connect me now", and at the end you say "goodbye", and end the conversation with them that way... that's better than to just stop talking, and is the general etiquette that should be applied when talking to any being... make clear when it starts and when it ends.
Glenn says:
Yes, its also very polite as well, i understand what you mean now   thanks
Glenn says:
Edi, will you please tell me a few things which you know that the Governemt does not want us to know, please?   incase you mist it
Glenn says:
:)
Edi says:
Hehe... I'm not government-basher, so I don't have much of that ready.
Glenn says:
Lol, but do you know anything they dont want us to know, even the smallest of thing?
Edi says:
I don't fight actively against the government/establishment by gathering facts and information... there are others who are in a better position to do this.
Glenn says:
Like Mayatnik, he knows a lot about them
Edi says:
They don't want us to know that 'aliens' exist.
Edi says:
For example  
Glenn says:
Thats true, but we know, butt holes
Glenn says:
lol
Glenn says:
When are you going to post that on astralforum?
Glenn says:
AstralPulse*
Edi says:
Now, I'm just thinking about what to include... I think I'll put in everything from the beginning up to here, so readers can see the whole of it.

Congrats Glenn!

I have a few questions for the Zeti:

1-Can you give me a good reason to beileve you and not beileve any other theories about the afterlife and stuff like that?

2-Who is Prophet Mohammed to you and other saints and prophets?
3-Do you beileve in the existence of god?How do you worship God?
4-I've read that alot of people are gonna die,why are you choosing only specific ones?
5-I also heard and actually saw the effects that abductions have on people,some are really negative,actually I've seen a story here on this very forum.How do you explain that?

Ok thanks alot,those are all the questions I have.

Hallo mayatnik & edi

I have some questions for the Zeta:
1.Tell me some words about the picture, what will happen on earth in 20 years without your help.Tell me what will happen 20 years,if you help.

2.Don't you have nothing else to do?Why are you ruleing on earth?

Hello all
Me and my human guide Jopeha would like to comment on some of Aleshahs questions.
Comment on 'Why are you ruleing on earth?'
I first took some definitions from a dictionary to make it more clear what was meant (marked in red). I have from that question put out subquestions marked in green to explain it best way possible. Original questions also marked green but italicized. Aleshah, if you have a different idea of the question and dont feel that its answered, let me know.

Rule: the exercise of authority or control
Authority: power to influence or command thought, opinion, or behavior
Control : to exercise restraining or directing influence over

Are the zeta exercising authority on the planet earth ?

F: Does the zeta have power to influence on the planet earth ?
J: The zeta dont have immediate power to influence, but their presence gives them attention which can be percieved as power. The zeta are helping as well, and its this helping that gives the illusion of power, however it is not really power since the humans have to agree to be helped.
F: Attention which leads to tvshows and ufo clubs ?
J: Those are some of the directions the attention takes yes. Others percieve the zeta as a threat and tries to defend themselfs against them in anyway possible. For many its unknown and therefore something to fear. That is why its good to atleast get some information about the zeta and act on ones own opinion.
F: You said that the humans have to agree to be helped by the zeta. Could you explain further?
J: The zeta have a function in helping in many ways. The agreement does however take place in most cases on a higher level. That means that the guides have agreed on this help from the zeta. It happens though that humans are asked directly when it is needed.
F: Are the zeta commanding thought on humans ?
J: The humans have their own thoughts and ideas and are not commanded to think in any way by the zeta. It is for humans to decide what to think.
F: Opinions ?
J: The same goes for this one.
F: Behavior ?
J: Behavior is not commanded by the zeta. Guidelines can be put out to meet the most benifical result of an agreement between the humans in this case and the zeta. However free will are still in hands of humans so they could oppose to these guidelines and do what they want.
F: Would there be any consequences to such an opposing act ?
J: Well were not talking about diciplinary acts or such. So no harm would come to the opposing. The agreement however would have to be evalutated and further actions decided.

Are the zeta exercising control on the planet earth ?

F: Are the zeta exercising restraining influence on the planet earth ?
J: No, they are not.
F: Are the zeta exercising directing influence on the planet earth ?
J: They are doing this, but not without the cooperation of the humans.
F: And this cooperation includes the previous agreement mentioned ?
J: Yes

F: So are the zeta ruling the planet earth ?
J: They are not ruling as such. If you take our conversations in account, you can see that it is only by the humans agreement that the zeta can have influence. If the humans refrained from recieving help from the zeta then that would also be a possibility.

Comment on 'Don't you have nothing else to do?'

F: Don't the zeta have nothing else to do than help us ?
J: They do have other things to do and they are. Currently they are helping other species as well.

That concludes for this time.
I would like to know where you got the idea that the zeta are ruling earth, Aleshah [:)]. Especially if something on this thread has led to that idea. I hope this has cleared up some things though.

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig and Jopeha

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Hello there, I have a question if I may :o)

Does the so-called biblecode have any relevance to any of this?
Or any relevance at all which you may comment on? This is just a subject I find interesting :o) Thankyou for your time.

Rob

Oops! Sorry, I didn't see the previous question, ignore the above :o)
I have a question though, if I may :

"if you are not allowed to directly interfere with our development, why the warning about the poleshift, and the subsequent contact you have with us?"

Thankyou :o)

Rob
P.s, you said earlier that we may ask personal questions?
I have one if I may..
"The last two months, I have had almost uncontrollable sexual desires.. has energy work got anything to do with this? Thankyou"

Rob

I actually posted a new topic instead of replying, because i'm a newbie...So here it is again.

Hello all,

I have some questions I would like awnsered by the Zetas, or by the Pleiadians. I so far have recently had 3 dreams concerning aliens. The first was an encounter of which I believe were Pleiadians where I was taken upon a space ship, but this dream didn't have much signifagance for the dream just took another direction, and turned out to be a typical dream.

The second dream was during the same night, and I know it was concerning the zetas, because the dream started where I was standing outside of a house with I think 3 other people I don't remember if I knew these people or not, but we were standing there when all of the sudden we notice lights in the sky that were moving in formation with each other. Then all of the sudden one came down from the sky, and hovered above this house which was a log home, or just had wooden siding, but anyways we us people were standing there in awe of the craft, when two I'm pretty sure Zetas appeared, or they were just Grays, or whatever. They appeared on the top of the wooden deck that was connected to the side of the house, and looked at us for a couple moments when one of them gestured for me to come to them. I was resilient at first, but soon obliged. As I walked up the steps of the deck they reached their hands out as if the help me up the deck. I remember trying not to grip their hands to tight so I didn't hurt them cause of their petite figure, but I soon found out that their hands didn't feel frail at all. After this happened this is where the dream ended, and I woke up dissapointed.

Now the third dream just happened last night. I don't seem to recall too much of this dream, and its surroundings except that this took place on my old street that I grew up as a kid from about age 1 to about age 13, but anyways I remember being their, and I remember being alone just out in the middle of the street, and I began to look up at the sky to find about 7 lights in the sky moving counter-clockwise in a cirlce, and also making other sudden movements. I remember acknowledging consiously that these were aliens, but that was about the only point of control that I have of this dream until later. As I looked up at the sky I think maybe 2 ships came down, but i'm not too sure. But I do remember one of the ships having a triagle shape with green lights resembling long cylindrical florescent-neon type lights. The ship wasn't directly overhead, but probally 75-100 feet infront of me at about 50 feet of heighth. The ship then shot down a neon-colored blue beam as if to beam up things into the ship. I sat there, and looked at it, and wondered why it had beemed down where there was nothing....When all of the sudden I got pulled from where I was to where the beam was to find a alien standing there in my presence. He was about my height which is 6'3", and had green tinted skin. I had to speak verbally to talk to him, but he could speak to me telepathically, and I could tell he was a male by the sound I heard in my mind. I said "Hello". And he responded, "Hello". I then stood there looking at him, and consiously thinking if he benevolent or not. So I proceded to ask him consiously if he believed in peace, love, and unity. He responded, "The universe was founded up peace, love, and unity, and I am also". After that I tended to trust him a little more, but not fully when I felt a upwards pulling feeling on my body, and it actually felt pleasent, and I wasn't afraid except for a little bit of anxiety. I then saw the ground getting farther away, and I saw the surrounding houses get smaller when I then was lifted into the space ship where I saw this square hatch close beneath where I was. I looked around and seen darker red walls with designs on them, and I found my self thinking it looked like carpet on the walls...lol. But it was a smaller room, and I was kinda expecting the be in a huge room, or something. So I looked behind me and found a little square hole that had stairs decending down into what looked like a bigger room that was white, and was illuminated with white light for what I could see. And that's when well people the dream ended! Kinda made me mad...lol. But I remember trying to tell myself to go back to sleep, and continue on with dream, but with no avail.

I'm actually expecting, or hope to have another dream like this again sometime in the near future. So if anyone could ask the Zetas, about Doug Smith in Rhinelander, WI, U.S.A. it would be greatly appreciated, and I hope you all enjoy the rather not exciting ending dreams of mine...lol

Regards,
Doug Smith

I have a good question, how do they (Zeta's) expect us to believe anything they say, after they obviously lead us on about the poleshift event in may, if they exist at all that is.

How conveniant that after it dosen't happen, ol' nancy simply says it was to lead on the rich, no way could it of been anything else other than that.

I absolutly believe that aliens are visiting us, I've seen ufo's flying  in the sky, it's just that until I have a face-to-face convo.  with one, (witch I would gladly have) I don't know if I'm ready to believe what someone is interpreting in there head to be actually true.

Proof is all I ask for, is that really too much to ask?

Well, hysterix, you can't just believe them based on what you read. You should always have a little doubt about things you read on the Internet.

They have answered that question in this thread, though.

Face to face, huh? Well, uh... Go read the Pendulum topic. It's one of Mayatnik's topics.

While I understand that someone wants proofs; I am always a little bit puzzled when people "demand" that people spend some time to prove it to them...

Here I got some really interesting questions to be awnsered by anyone! Oh I took em off a site, and figured I'd post em for their hard to answerness...lol

#1.
Are all the (measurable) dimensionless parameters that characterize the physical Universe, calcuable in principle, or are some merely determined by historical or quantum mechanical accident and uncalcuable?

#2.
How can quantum gravity help explain the origin of the Universe?


#3.
What is the lifetime of the proton and how do we understand it?


#4.
Is Nature supersymmetric, and if so, how is supersymmetry broken?


#5.
Why does the Universe appear to have one time and three space dimensions?


#6.
Why does the cosmological constant have the value that it has? Is it zero and is it really constant?


#7.
What are the fundamental degrees of freedom of M Theory (the theory whose low-energy limit is eleven-dimensional supergravity and that subsumes the five consistent superstring theories) and does the theory describe nature?


#8.
What is the resolution of the black hole information paradox?


#9.
What physics explains the enormous disparity between the gravitational scale and the typical mass scale of the elementary particles?


#10.
Can we quantitatively understand quark and gluon confinement in quantum chromodynamics and the existence of a mass gap?

zz

Questions like CelticMagick posted would be tests more for the channeler than the being that's being channeled. Channeling information on things that we've been exposed to in our life, like people or places or familiar ideas, is one thing, but channeling information on things that you have no concept of is completely different.

I've had sessions with Mayatnik and Edi to learn to channel, and it was difficult enough to learn to interpret colors and words (for me anyway). I'm sure with practice those things would become easier to channel, but I can't imagine how much practice it would take for someone to be able to channel concepts and ideas that are completely alien to them without having to have an OBE or something similar for further explanation. Even then, I would imagine explaining quantum mechanics would be quite difficult.

It would be ridiculous for someone to try to channel answers to Celtic's questions without already having at least some knowledge of the things he inquires about. If someone attempted it, they would surely channel horribly inaccurate information or would simply become confused, unless they had some uber gosu channeling capabilities.

Zeta Conversation

Z... Zeta
E... Edi
P... Perena, my guide

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Z: Hello. After that long time, it's good to see you again. Maybe you might explain to the audience why you took such a long break without any updates here.
E: Okay... basically, I spent too much time online which eventually started to have negative effects on my personal life. I need much time for my studies, for friends and for 'normal' living, and I thought I could have all things at once.
Z: You've learned now that your personal life comes first, no matter what others would like tosee you doing, no matter if others 'need' you. You cannot help anyone when you aren't stable and grounded in your personal life.
E: Yes... you never requested anything from me, so it was only myself running too fast until I stumbled...
Z: There is enough time, you don't need to feel pressed at doing anything.
E: I know now :) Well that's it... would you like to comment more?
Z: Yes. It's a common attitude that people think they have to reach much in a short time. But when they focus on such external things that are still far away, they neglect the area where they could work best and gain the most benefit. If you want to reach anything in what you call 'spirituality', it has to be a gradual awakening which begins where you are, which begins with people and things around you, and not somewhere else. The lessons you need to learn cannot be avoided. Spirituality is neither meditation nor energy manipulation or any fancy thing like that. It's easy to look into the wrong direction. That's all we wanted to say.

euphoric_sunrise: Another question regarding Whitley Strieber: Was he abducted? If so, was it by the Zeta?

Z: Yes, he was in contact with aliens.
E: I'm just getting confused by all those different kinds and species and races ...
Z: Suffice to say, there are lots of groups and the distinction positive/negative, zeta/etc. is a very rough one, although suitable for the level we need here.
P: When channeling, such feelings as you just had are a very good indicator on how to continue... you feel how easy or not you hear the words, and whenever you get uncomfortable, it's a sign to ask 'easy' questions about the topic because you don't have a good foundation there. This way, you will avoid the risk of distorting what you get. There are of course limits to channeling (you are still a beginner), but those can be dealt with easily if you pay notice to the feeling of the talk.
E: Thanks for that clarification...
Z: Strieber was abducted, but not by us.

What's the significance of the triad, or the triangle symbol? Is it simply symbolic or does it give off some kind of frequency?

Z: There's no meaning to it. People tend to mystify everything, and if they see a regularitysomewhere, they forget the fact that their mind often presents only what they want to see, cutting off the rest. You will find 3 points or 3 sides everywhere in nature if you look at it the right way.

Can you give us any information on the 12-strands of DNA mentioned in "Bringers of the Dawn?" I realise this book is channeled by Pleiadians, but i figure you must have some information. What exactly are we capable of with these 12 strands active? Are many human's in the process of being aligned and remembering?

Z: Those 12 strands are (except the 2 you have now) are dormant now, and will come into action when earth passes through the photon belt.
E: Are those strands just ... disconnected, or jumbled, and floating in our physical cells? How could they then get activated?
Z: It's not physical. Your body has many layers, and every layer is just an expression of the blueprint that is available on a higher level. The changes will come from above, so your whole body will adjust step by step, until finally you have those strands expressed in the physical body, too.
E: Is it possible, from a biological point of view, to have 12 strands of DNA? I can imagine howit is with 2, but I've never heard of something having more than 2 strands of DNA.
Z: Nature has it's ways to do that.
E: Some words about our capabilities with those 12 active strands?
Z: Telepathy, and extra sensory perception in general. More resistance to illnesses and fatigue.
E: What about OBEs?
Z: This is more common in 4th dimensional existence. You will be able to more easily leave your bodies at will. This is also one of the main characteristics of 4D... learning to travel around without your physical bodies.
E: Anything else on what we could do with this new DNA?
Z: Your body will be more important for you and it's needs will be more apparent ... you will see better how it is not only a physical 'vehicle', but that you are connected to it on all levels.
E: Connected in what way?
Z: Emotions, blockages, beliefs, all those things can manifest in the physical... all those little aches and pains that seem to come without cause often have their roots at a more subtle level.
E: How many humans are going through this process?
Z: All are... earth is raising to the next level, and so is everyone living on her. People who would rather not go through the changes that are about to occur, die. They prefer to incarnate again when things are steadier again.

silentjohn: 1) What about the zeta talk on other websites, like the forum at http://godlikeproductions.com - Also ive noticed zeta talk updates, are they in the same format, or in a more apparant format now?

Z: There is no zeta talk on other websites - this forum here and the original zetatalk site are the only ones where we're channeled in a coordinated effort.
E: Aren't you in communication with lots of other people?
Z: Yes, we are. If you mean those we talk to telepathically - no other project like those 2 we mentioned is supported by us. The original zetatalk site is still being updated from time to time.

2) Any information on Kirael and the "three days of darkness"?

Z: Kirael and his message are well-intentioned and his channels don't distort the message - you can see him as a valid source of information. Those "three days of darkness" will take place, not during but after the poleshift. Those days will bring a change for human consciousness, as new energies are then integrated into the human consciousness as a whole.                                                  
3) Can we simply send "Requests" for zeta guides?

Z: Of course. A "Request" is sent by having the intent, a genuine desire to learn about the things that are unseen. If you are interested in and deal with information about certain topics, as they are discussed here on this forum for example, this will be noticed. You reach out to us by reading about us, thinking about us, etc., but remember that it is up to the guides to decide whether they work with a person actively, or if they remain in the background to arrange opportunities and situations that the person can integrate into his life or live through, or not.

cainam_nazier: 1. If the individuals own soul/consiousness wished to continue into another body, through cloning, a blank would have to be on hand or available shortly after seperation?

Z: To continue into an existing body would equired that the soul that inhabited the body before leaves, and that the new soul migrates there by being connected from the higher realms. A soul cannot forcefully push another soul out of their body. Sometimes, such an overshadowing is done temporarily (e.g. in trance channeling), but it can also happen permanently on rare occasions, if one soul decides to leave and make room for another one (that can be called a walk-in). This gives the soul that comes in the opportunity to work here on earth without having to go through the long process of education and getting hold in this world.
E: Does this mean the incoming walk-in can function normally in society? Wouldn't this be a rather big disruption of how this physical body standy in life?
Z: The memory of that incarnation is still accessible from the brain, as it contains the references to it. The walk-in knows those intellectual things like names of friends, how to drive a car and so on, because it is also stored in the body. This brings us to an interesting topic... namely, what is US and what is our BODY when we are incarnated? (I talk of 'we' because the Zeta as we are now are also incarnated from an even higher level, and from where we are now we can, and do often, incarnate on earth)
Z: The body is a vehicle in the sense that is is used to interact with other organism on it's surroundings and to learn of the effects of that interaction by the senses - this is true on all levels where a body is inhabitated. In the course of this, the incarnated entity has to learn many things anew. If you learned a language in a former life, you most like won't be able to speak it in an other incarnation without learning it again. This is because incarnations are supposed to be 'fresh' experiences, where you forget who you really are in order to learn many new things that you wouldn't learn if you remembered everything. This amnesia gives you the impulse to interact, and you can't afford being lazy that way. But all the while, there are more parts of you that you can't access during your life - this is subjectively experienced by an uncertain 'feeling' of being more than can be perceived. This bigger part of you holds back memories, abilities or knowledge - but it does give you intuition and feelings. And while we talk of those 2 apparently seperate parts - one smaller, incarnated, one bigger, that you can't see - it is important to realize that there is in reality no seperation, and that you ARE both. You are here on earth, you are your higher self, and everything you are is there all the time, except the memories of other incarnations.
E: I once thought that a little finger is to a hand the same as an incarnation is to the soul.
Z: And this is not correct. You are not less than your soul when you are incarnated, you ARE the soul. The first factor that makes you feel smaller is that you don't remember who you really are, and the second is that you overidentify with what you've learned so far in that certain life.
E: You mean that I should not identify with my social surroundings and with my education, but primarily with my feelings and my intuition?
Z: Exactly. Now back to the original question - what is US and what is our BODY? The body contains nothing of us that is not also in our soul, but the body accumulates all the experiences we had in the life, similar to scars or marks that tell you where you've hurt yourself. This is why a walk-in can continue the former life of that body in job and family and so on - but the feelings and the intuition and the desires that govern and direct that body will be different, according to the new soul, and this change is rather abrupt.

2. The way the process was explained also implies that a living thing, or rather a currently incarnated being/thing, could never be fully replicated because of the soul/consiouness. Even if the replicated being was physically similar it would vary simply on its soul/cousiouness. Is that correct?

Z: Exactly.

3. Okay and not to sound a little geeky, but lets see if we can get this concept into terms more easily understood by the general populas. The interaction between the soul, cousiousness, group consiousness, and so on seems to be a bit like it is described in Star Wars with midicalorians and the force. Would that be a fairly accurate nalogy? To clear up my meaning, that being a soul or what term is better suited, inhabits all living cells. That  together they form consiousness and bind us together with all living things.

E: Quote: "Midichlorians are a microscopic lifeform that resides within all living cells..... and we are symbionts with them... lifeforms living together to form mutual advantage. Without the midichlorians life could not exist, and we would have no knowledge of the Force. They continually speak to us, telling us the will of the Force." - Qui-Gon Jinn in The Phantom Menace
Z: There is a difference... the beings you hear of in Star Wars would be seperate lifeforms, and they don't talk about the soul there. The concept we presented was not that one soul is 'inhabited' by smaller souls, but that the sum of many souls is in essence a soul again, called the group soul. This means that there is not one soul of humanity that is seperate from all humans, but that the souls of all humans ARE the soul of humanity. This is not only a philosophical concept where you give a label to things, but the 'soul' of humanity goes through a similar evolution as all human beings.
E: I take that as a first approximation ... it could get bottomless if I ask about all the other things I see appearing there.
Z: This is fine. We explain those things in simple words, and if we come back to it later it will be necessary to revise the concepts and ideas we used here - but for the moment it is a fine illustration.

4. If I am thinking correctly, which I believe I am, in essance the individual is his/her own "group consiousness"? Just as the individual is a part of the larger group? And ultimately the universal mind?

Z: Yes, you see this correctly. You are always part of something greater (the next 'group consciousness') but your awareness is always limited to a certain stage of individualization. Evolution is experience of seperation and then merging again with that greater thing you are part of.

5. Would all of this explain why for me, and probably others as well, why many of the answers given here, even to the odder questions, are seemingly already known? That many of the answers given are the expected responce even if the question was not previously pondered by the individual?

Z: On the one hand, we present the answers so that both the channel and the readers can understand it easily - for the channel, it's necessary to understand, and for the rest, understanding is what we aim at. That you seem to already know the answers is due to the way information is learned and assimilated. You don't learn by memorizing the words you hear, but by trying to feel what those words evoke in yourself - if there is resonance, you understand what is meant. So, on the other hand, you learn by 'perceiving' things as they are. And what's more: because creation is logical or structured, you can find out a lot by using common sense.
E: Define common sense, please!
Z: Seeing things in relation to their surroundings. Feeling. Comparing with what you know. Acknowledging every aspect that comes to your mind. Intuition. Discussing with others.Sensing.

Nagual: The Sun is expected to "die" in 5 billions years... What will happen to Solar System races? Where will/can they go?

Z: If the sun dies, this will be no issue for physical life-forms in this solar system.Incarnated souls can be transferred to other territories as well as 'non-intelligent' life like plants, if they are to be preserved.
E: Do plants have souls?
Z: Yes. Developing and rudimentary, but they do.

Arthelion: 1. What exactly is energy development good for? I'm not interested in ki balls and things like that. After I tried the NEW energy ways by Robert Bruce and I could feel the energy flowing in my body, but what is it good for? Anyway I felt mentally exhausted and didn't find the will to try it again.

Z: Energy development with a system like new has several applications. First, it helps you to increase your awareness of energy. Second, added to this passive awareness you also learn to actively direct energy. Third, your imaginative faculties are trained by that. And fourth, it has several effects on your whole being, because you feel in more detail what is going on in you, or at least you get the opportunity to. If you work on a certain part of you body, this can (and most likely does) bring to your awareness the things that are rooted there... Edi can give you an example for this.
E: Yes, I did this yesterday: I put my right hand on my chest and found memories from some years ago coming to my mind. Those were uncomfortable memories that I have preferred to stuff away in some dark place of myself... and this can be linked to a certain body part
Z: You can in fact 'read' your body like this, by putting your hands somewhere and seeing what comes to your empty mind. Many healers work that way.
E: Do the guides control what can be read off other people that way?
Z: Of course. So you see that energy development does have effects - but it is not necessary to do that. Instead of trying to 'clean' your energy system by white light (or any other colour) or certain techniques, you could well use that time to ponder on your life and come to terms with yourself. Energy work by itself does not help you to clear any problems you might have, and is not 'natural' at all.
E: What about .. I think I've read in RB's articles of healing properties of energy work.
Z: This is true: you can assist your body in it's natural mechanisms by consciously directing the energy to where it is needed. But ideally, this should come naturally, because your bodies are well able to do that on their own; but unfortunately, many have lost their connection to nature. You can decide what you prefer - you can find your way back to nature and let your body fully unfold it's healing abilities, or you can try to do all this on your own, replacing instinct and natural mechanisms by techniques where you need effort to stay healthy. Energy development is, though, one possible step into the direction of spiritual development.. but neither necessary nor sufficient for that!

2.Do drugs like marijuana help to astral project or OOBE? Anyway is it worth the side    effects?

Z: They do help because they put you into an altered state of consciousness, out of yourcommon conditioning and perception. The 'filters' of your brain are modified, so subtler things can reach your awareness. Drugs can open doors, but it is not natural to force things by using drugs.
E: Does the prolonged use of drugs has any ill effects on humans?
Z: Of course. It 'pollutes' the subtler bodies and distorts your view of the world. This distortion can have good or bad effects (meaning: you're closer to 'reality' or further off, respectively), depending on when and how you use drugs. In general, it's fairly well possible to use drugs wisely, as an interesting 'addition' to life - but it's not necessary at all, and can lead you down a wrong path.
3. Is there a planet called Thiaoouba? I*ve read a book Thiaoouba prophecy and it contains A LOT of interesting stuff about the creation of the universe and how people came to Earth etc. and I have a simple question: Is the book true?

Z: The answer is simple as well: no.

4.Was Buddha just an ordinary man who found a way to enlightenment? Or was he some higher being sent to teach people? And what exactly the enlightenment is?

Z: Budda was a being sent to show people a possible way. He didn't stumble upon 'enlightenment' by accident, it was planned. The word 'enlightenment' is a bit overloaded and sounds more important than it is. Everyone is enlightened, and decides if he lives it or not, or to what extent. The concept of 'enlightenment' is used by people who somehow like to feel better to separate themselves off the masses.

5. What spiritual path should a novice take to make the best progress? I mean, is there some way, which could be called the best or fastest? And what should be the primary goal in one's effort?

Z: There is no fixed formula. Everyone's life is unique and special and should be regarded as such. Direct your efforts as you feel it in your heart, and reconsider your concept of 'progress'.

6. What do you think of today's education? I don't know how it is in other countries but here in Czech Republic it seems to me like a wasted time. After 10 years of studying (I'm 16), what have I learned? Well, I can solve biquadratic equations, I can calculate with specific heat capacity of various substances, but how do I need these in my life? There was absolutely no spirituality or something useful for life in last few years and especially now I find it just exhausting and non-motivating to continue. Anyway, what subjects or braches do you think will be useful in the future? I'm still wondering what should I specialize in. Whether it should be something technical (like computers) or humanities (like psychology). I'm quite interested in both areas. OK, enough of this.

Z: Education is horrible - not at all adequate to what a growing-up needs later in his life, and most of the time only stupid drilling of information. Few teachers seek to show theirpupils WHY they should be interested in the subject, and what good it can bring to theirlifes. You learn what you (supposedly) need later in work life, and individual development is neglected. In the future, it will be necessary to come back to plain and simple life without much technicalities or empty glamour. Manual skills will always be needed and will see a revival. This doesn't mean that computers will become obsolete, but they will be put where they belong. Whatever branch of education you choose, you should be fine as long as you do what you're interested in. It is still early at your age to decide this, and you will still need some time looking around until you find what suits you best. Psychology will be important when more aspects of what constitutes a human experience are discovered and discussed on a larger scale.

7. I don't know the exact date but it was in the late August in Czech Republic. It was like a fireball falling from the sky. Of course the military radars didn't see anything. A month later they said it had been a crashing plane (BS). Do you know something about it?

Z: It was no UFO that was shot down or fancy things like that. Maybe 'interstellar debris' (small comets etc.) would describe it best.

bomohwkl: Looked at what Buddha had said. I am very sure that Buddha never mention about the realms of devas, gods, devils and even reincarnation, not even a human rebirthing as an animal.

Z: You are quite correct in that. The people of that time were very gullible to add 'mystery' to the simple messages Buddha brought forward, and put an unnecessary belief system around it.

Z: This is it... a long transcript, well done.
E: I've left out some questions where I feel I'm stuck and will come back to them later... some issues seem bottomless and lead on and on to other questions.
Z: Concentrate on what is at hand and it'll be fine, you know that.
E: I do.
Z: We've been watching with interest the other channelings going on here, including the newer ones. Keep it going, it is interesting for sure [:)]
E: We'll see. Bye then, and thanks.
Z: We thank you, see you.

Hi Edi,

I just wanted to Thank you for the wonderful reading material you provided in this last Zeta conversation.

I've been sitting on the sidelines here for a while watching the questions and answers, remaining unsure as to the "validity" (for want of a better word) to these channellings, and indeed these beings. This might sound hypocritical, coming from someone who has a Pleiadian guide,  however she has told me that my purpose is not in communicating with these beings directly, so with the lack of personal experience here, I guess I've not had my doubts about them put at ease.

Until now.

These last set of questions and answers started out very well when you started discusing issues of common sense and spirituality, and they just got better from there. I'd become quite jaded with all the questions about technicalities and all the usual UFO & conspiracy stuff. I couldn't help but think that these lines of questions many were asking were missing the point, badly. The information that you've presented now I believe is of tremendous value. Maybe I'm just saying this because I happen to agree with what was said, so I'm biased towards it, but all of the answers the Zetas have given line up so very well with, and expand upon beautifully what my own guide has been telling me so far. These people do have a great deal of practical "down to earth" (no pun intended) common sense in what they speak of.

Thank you very much for continuing to provide this information for the AP forum, despite all the controversy and scepticism.

Kind regards,
James.

A few more questions for the Zeta, if no one minds.

1. What are the odds of a nuclear war here before Nibiru arrives?

2. Was the Cold War agreed upon by the US and Russian governments to occupy public interest after WW2?

3. If it is possible for nuclear war occur, and it was clear nukes were about to be launched and casualties would be in the millions, would there be any extraterrestrial intervention or would we be left to our own problems?

The reason I ask is because the situation today with nuclear weapons is an interesting one. We're selling nuclear technology to China, and China is apparently spreading it to other parts of the Middle East and North Korea. Russia is also building bunkers in the Ural mountains and a few missiles each month, where as the US is still disarming and hasn't built missiles of the kind Russia is now in ten years. And, Russia and China are both against our efforts for anti-ballistic missile technology, which is purely defensive. To let this happen sounds totally unlike the US government that from what I know of it, and I can't help but find it a little threatening to my personal well-being, especially since I live so close to DC. I'm aware that the radiation from an up-to-snuff nuke to DC would most likely kill me and pretty much everyone I know, which doesn't exactly make me feel safe.

Hi.

I'd like to discuss something with the Zeta.

You've already answered some questions about our little world, as who built the pyramids, what the governments do, etc. I suppose (you'll correct me if I'm wrong), that you answer to this type of question :
- because informations relating to Earth as we know it aren't something you (or any other higher authority) consider sensible,
- for the sake of the project, the point being more to communicate with us than to teach us (again, reguarding this type of question).

This is a fantastic opportunity for us. This thread could be easily filled with billions of single questions about our world, and I have a feel we are going that way. But then, it would be more effective to.. send us history books (sorry I couldn't find a better comparison).

I wrote this little introduction to make it clear that I understand you're not here to "teach" us, so that I don't want to offend you with the questions I shall now formulate.

1) What are the limits to the informations you can provide us concerning the overall knowledge of our world ? (like privacy, financial issues)

2) Would you agree, besides the project, and of course if this is possible (that I have no idea), to share these informations in an "appropriate" way (such as full texts) ?


Thanks for all, Zeta.
Thanks channelers for your awesome work !


With best reguards.

Hey, Zeta. I figured I'd ask you the same questions I'd asked the Reptilians. You know? Get a little different perspective.

They mentioned some sort of genotype for all life in the physical universe. what do you know about this? What can you tell us about it? If we compared your DNZ to something on Earth, what would you be most related to?

So, uh, Earth scientists like to look at the universe and assume and try to make it conform to how they think it should work instead of conforming their theories to how it works.

They take what the see on Earth and apply it to the Universe. They assume all life has to be like Earth life, and has to rely on water, and be carbon based.

So, uh, you guys ever encounter a species/race/being/whatever you would like to call it that doesn't need water to survive? (3rd Density, I guess, since I don't know if 4th density people need to need).

Ica Stones of Peru. Old tribal tales of monster beasts. Champie, Big Foot. Yeti.

OK, I'm sure you've guessed it. (Well, maybe not you reptilians. You might have read my mind or something before I finished typing it out. I don't know.)

Are the Ica Stones authentic? Was there a time in history where man walked beside dinosaur?

Are there still creatures on the planet Earth we would call dinosaurs?

Does bigfoot/yeti exist? Are there giant octupus (like, the size of ships) in the sea?

Are there any subjects we haven't brought up yet that you think we should inquire about?

Are there any artificial (as in created by a 3D organic being) beings in the universe? If so, how do they work? Are they drone like, or do they have self will, awareness, and personality? Do they get souls? Who created them? What do they look like?

You Zeta have given me the impression that spiritual development of a race is what makes them accend. If this is true, and the Astral (Including the "Real Time Zone") are above 4D, what are the "negs" people encounter there?

Or is spiritual development not a prerequisite?

What will happen to the rest of the life on Earth when this whole pole shift raise to the next level thing happens? They'll come, too, right? Not just mankind?

Sorry for the length of this post.

Well Risu thats the kind of questions I was thinking about when I wrote the previous post.
Also I'd like to ask about :

1) The Atlantis. Did it exist ? When ? How advanced was the people who lived there ? Where are the ruins now ?
2) Marylin Monroe. How did she really died ? If she was killed, what was the purpose of the murderer ?
3) Same question about Lady Di.
4) Who was Jack the ripper ?
5) Whats the biggest animal on earth ? And under water ? I'd think about a giant calmar.

A few questions for the Zetas:

1) What will the 6 winning lottory numbers be for the British national lottory draw on Wednesday the 7th of January 2004 and on Saturday the 10th of January 2004. [:)]

2) Is the big bang theory correct as to how the 3rd density universe came into existance.

3) Once we reach the highest density of existance what will it be like? in other words will I get bored and miss eating kebabs? (that kebab bit was a joke.)

This is more of a question for Edi and Fuzziwig, and anyone else who is doing this communication thing with the aliens.

This thing where your guide tells you to leave your eyes  open and with your mind go somewhere... What would you call that?

I ask because the Zeta said earlier in this topic that people can project easily, and that they're holding themselves back.

Then, your guides are just like "hey, stop thinking and it will come."

Also, I heard some guy on Coast to Coast say somethign or other a while ago. Then I heard on Friday's call in show some guy said he and his friend did this thing where you unfocus your eyes, let them relax I guess, and not think about it, and that they slowly faded into, as he called it, another dimension.

So, I was just thinking if maybe this is that whole "it's easy to do, really" thing the Zeta's mentioned.

"This thing where your guide tells you to leave your eyes open and with your mind go somewhere... What would you call that?"

When we do this, it is very much like "remote viewing". However with this "remote viewing" we also pick up emotions, smells etc. We utilize our entire spectrum of "physical" and "non-physical" senses. I call it clairvoyance(Which to me is a term including such things as remote viewing, clairaudience etc).
The next question might be if we could go to the astral this way? The simple answer is; yes.
The thing that should be emphasized is that while we do this we are fully aware of having "two bodies"(depending on how you percieve your second "vehicle"), two sets of sensory input(taste, smell vision even touch) etc.

Have fun exploring! [:)]


With Pleiadian Love and Light,

TruthSeeker

hi there...I am wondering what something is called and if it is normal.Most of the time when people are talking about an event,it seems I can see the people that were involed and I am able to tell what they were wearing and what they were doing...would this be some kind of telepathic power or something?

Well, if the events they're discussing have already happened, and you're seeing the place and people, then that would be retrocognition.

Follow-up from the last post regarding Remote Viewing and Clairvoyance:

I will provide a recent experience I had today when making use of clairvoyance to find a woman working in a military complex "somewhere" (for security reasons I'm notallowed to name the location) in Russia. I was asked by Mayatnik, to illustrate a point we had been talking about, to find this woman by asking my guide to take me to her. Within a fraction of a second I was there right behind her. There were a few people around, so I asked Mayatnik to describe her to me to make sure:

Me: "Yes I see her but I just want some verification if it's her, based on looks. If you could"
Mayatnik: "Dark hair, medium build, tired. "
Me: "That's her, allthough her hair looks brown"
Mayatnik: "Yes, dark-ish"
Mayatnik: "She has sensitive fingers, very expresive."
Mayatnik: "[...]What do you think of her?[...]"
Me: "She's nice, very kind and gentle. But concerned. She wants out."
Mayatnik: "She's wanted 'out' for many years. She told me she hated the corruption, and she wanted to get her son away to have a new life. she tries to help people, and has a wonderful heart."
Me: "I said hello to her, she said hello back. Was that a conscious hello or subconscious, or something else?"
Mayatnik: "That was conscious.......[...] that is her 'field' of work with the military"
Mayatnik: "Tell her, "Edward sends you his love, and will never forget you"
Me: "She was very nice indeed then, she allowed me to see all of those things with a smile"(Editors note: "All those things" refers to "sensitive" information not included in this transcript)
Me: "I got an emotion back, hard to describe, kind of this "lump in the throat"-feeling."
Me:  "Smiles"(Editors note: She smiled to me)
Mayatnik: "Yes, that's the way it is......and that's the way she knows it has to be."
Me: "It made me shiver.."


This is the way some remote viewing sessions may be like. In this transcript I did not include other sensory input - only what was important. But inside this military complex I could touch the walls, smell the gentle tint coffee in the air. I could sense the emotions of the complex' high-security employees, the small draught coming from one of the vents. There really are no limits to what you can sense or experience when remote viewing this way. There is no doubt this is real (and not just in my mind), as both me and Mayatnik continued to confirm each other's information all the time during a long session, of which the transcript extracted was only a small section.

(As you will have noticed some of the information is missing ( marked with "[...]"). This is because certain parts of this transcript is of the "sensitive" nature in military terms, and was not in any case essential to the description of this remote viewing session extract for publication.)

Love and Light,

TruthSeeker

Hey,

I'm glad to see that the things said here resonate with you, James. I've questioned myself a lot about these channelings and I think it's still too early to say where this all is going, and what will come from it, but it's nice to see that this is interesting for people. What counts for me is a friendly athmosphere where questions can be asked and answers discussed in a relaxed way, and no one has to take a channeling as an ultimate (or even relative) truth. I attribute any apparent lack of 'depth' or vagueness to the process of channeling itself... it's just not possible to talk hours and days about a single subject, which would at least be necessary for me to explore it somehow, and this also isn't the aim behind those channelings (the Zetas agree with me here.. it's first about talking about channeling itself and seeing how it works, and then it's for talking about certain topics that seem to be relevant at that time... interaction with lots of questions and answers that show the Zetas' viewpoint, even if only to pronounce a counterposition to common conditioning sometimes). I too prefer questions that are easy to talk about, but I've seen that also 'technical' questions can be a good hook to jump on to other topics that could be interesting. Of course all questions deserve to be answered, but I feel some are of more 'relevance' than others... I nevertheless try to answer them all.

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E: Good Evening!
Z: Hello to you!
E: I'll go straight to the questions.

MJ12: Hey Zetas, was that you in my room last night?

Z: Yes, it was us.

What entities, if any, were responsible for channeling the:

E: How should I answer this question? I mean, I can't refer to such entities by names like 'this is Joe', 'that is Fiona', etc., like I could name old friends.
Z: You can't, but you can ask: What dimension should we seen them coming from? Is it a group, an individual, an 'energy' that takes on a personality in order to communicate? What are the intentions, is it worth to read it, is it still up-to-date? Such things... and we can comment on the rest if necessary.

a) Urantia Book

Z: 6th dimension, worth to read. There are works which are to be taken more literally than others, and the Urantia Book falls into the category 'nice to read, valuable message, don't read it for the details'.
E: It is the usual way to present channelings like this?
Z: Often it's the best way. Stories and fiction can transport so much information, and the point is, as we already have said, to make you _think_ about such things. If all information was given on a plate, you would (apart from fighting about if it's true or not) lose a lot of experience. Valuable experience.

b) The Seth Books

Z: Seth was a fourth dimension entity, and somehow a forerunner of modern channelings. He made way for many others to publish channeled words, as it was not that common then to channel as it is now. Common in the sense that you can see it on the bookshelves in every new-age store. You can read his words, but channeling has indeed evolved since then and is suited to what is needed at the time... so back then, Seth was good to read, but from today's perspective channeling built upon what was presented then, and presents a more expanded view.

c) The Ra material

E: This question was already answered by Dark Knight here ...
Z: What she says is correct.
E: Is this Ra in any way connected to the egyptian god?
Z: Yes, it was the same 'Ra' then.
E: Cool.
Z: You can read it, it's too a valuable channeling, as is the next one:

d) Defending Sacred Ground

E: Is it accurate, or true?
Z: We wouldn't say so. There comes no harm from reading it, though.
E: What do you mean by 'valuable channeling'?
Z: That there were indeed higher beings, interested in assisting mankind, who communicated there - even if the channel itself distorted or coloured the messages.
E: That brings me to the question: what, in general, is the content of channelings?
Z: We'll come to that later, there's a question that goes into that direction. We can expand on this there, please continue straight with the next questions on your list.
E: Okay.

What is the status of human-sponsored geoengineering on the earth at this time? What factions are involved?  

E: I have no idea what geo-engineering is.
Z: It's influencing the ecology on a major scale, basically, for good or for bad. Trying to control nature (which is bound to fail). Humans damage the athmosphere, and try to 'fix' it quickly by spraying some chemicals here and there. Such approaches are per se quite stupid. There are a lot of projects going on, but not with much success so far, as the long-term effects aren't known. Chemtrails (you've read about them) do exist, and some factions are experimenting with that.
E: What factions?
Z: The USA, again (it seems like they are the 'bad boys' in all areas), but also others, like Russia and China. No latin-american countries, and in Europe you could name France and Germany as being interested in that.
E: What are their motivations in this, and what are the other projects?
Z: The motivations are, basically, to get rid of wastes, by trying to force nature to accept it... i.e. modifying some natural ecosystem so it can be able to absorb much more toxins. This would apparently free humanity from thinking about what to do with their waste products, but this is no way to get rid of toxic substances and the likes. Nature, or Earth, is a conscious being that has it's own will, that will is to cooperate with humanity and all living things on earth, but not in the way the industry would like that to happen. She (we pronounce the female aspect of the earth, that's what she is) suffers not metaphorically, but for real. Every toxin that is produced and gets into nature has its effects on humans and other beings.
E: I've read that elemental forces are somehow connected to toxins.
Z: That is true... the elementals are occupying the second dimension, it's where they are at home. They are creative and building forces whose job is to manifest things, in a certain respect. So they also help to manifest illness in a body. Curing an illness is decontaminating on all levels. We'd like to expand a bit more on that, as it is new to you.
Z: What happens, when you've got poison in your environment? Poison here means something that has adverse effects on some natural organisms or systems. When those substances get into a system (i.e. your body), there are of course all the effects on metabolism, consciousness and health in general - the body can't deal with those substances, and you get ill from that. That is the accepted, 'material' view of things, and it is valid. But hand in hand with that goes something at other levels of your being.
E: I've thought that so far, you've been talking rather down-to-earth, and not much about such things in more subtle areas...
Z: We talk about what is appropriate. It was necessary to start at a common point and to go wandering around from that. We won't come with hyperdimensional, rainbow coloured strange geometric patterns that are the cure-it-all or what other weird things you can or cannot imagine, because there's no sense in that. We talk, and slowly go deeper and deeper into certain areas.
Z: So back to health. All substances, like gold, plutonium, nitrogen etc., which are pure elements, as well as compounds like CO2, NO3, salt and sugar, are on the one hand matter in the 3rd dimension, and on the other hand, have an equivalent in 2D. To understand this, you have to see what 2D is all about. Whatever grows in nature, is manifested by the beings called elementals. Elementals are expressing the will of the earth, and also the will of humans. Elementals are the manifesting force behind plans and ideas, and serve to birth and anchor them in 3D. The weather, storms, lightning etc. can all be seen as an expression of elementals. A well working ecosystem, and a bad, almost dead one too, are expression of the elementals. If the substances in an area are suitable for grass, trees and other plants, the power that makes a seed grow is the elementals. So the elementals are directly connected to the material substances, and you could see it like this: the elemental determines how a living being is connected to the physical world.
E: Mayatnik describe the word elemental as "a dynamic living-energy, in 2D, the sphere of 'feeling'".
Z: That is true. And you also feel the elementals with your second chakra, which governs the sphere of emotions and feelings. Just go out into nature and feel what feelings you get from certain places, or even certain trees. Some attract you, some repel you, and that's more than just your sense of aesthetics which decides if you like a place or not.
E: So, how is this connected to health?
Z: The natural, healthy constitution of a body is to be free of toxins, as far as this is possible, and to be fully functional. Then, the body can express it's DNA, it's blueprint, can grow until the ago of 20, and then stay healthy the whole life. If we put aside illnesses that come directly from psychosomatic issues for the moment and look at what happens when you body gets too much toxins you'll see what it does to you. There's not only a change in your metabolism with adverse effects, but there are also new 'qualities' expressed by your body. Your body is made for and by expressing those forces of nature which are connected to what you normally eat, where you normally live, etc., everything according to a natural lifestyle. Your DNA is made to work in unison with those certain forces or 'qualities' that are natural for you, and if you eat plutonium it's as if you go skiing in your bathing suit - something is not as it ought to be, then. There's nothing wrong or bad about this style of clothing (or those certain elementals), there's no polarity like good or bad here. It's just that some things are more appropriate in some places than in others. You can also imagine 'unnatural' elementals (for you) as mis-reading or mis-expressing your DNA.
E: I think I've understand this....
Z: Could you summarize it in a short sentence?
E: Elementals are living energies that aim to express the blueprints they find in the way that is natural for them.
Z: They do not aim to do this, they do it all the time, because that's the very essence of their being. They seem to be automatic in this respect. There's much more to be said about elementals, but this time we only wanted to talk about their connection to matter, health and nature.

What is happening under Yellowstone park?

Z: There's a big bubble of hot magma there, ready to burst out if a major earthquake (or a pole-shift) should happen there. No underground bases, no secret hideouts, because it's just too hot there.
E: Is it likely that an earthquake there could hause that to happen soon?
Z: No, it's not _that_ instable. The geoseismic activity there is increasing there, though, and goes along with other slight disturbances like:

What is causing all the solar activity? Will it continue or get worse? What does this indicate for earth weather in the coming weeks?

Z: It's not that far from a normal solar cycle. In short-term, we'd say that it gets more irregular and jumpy while Nibiru approaches, the same can be said about the weather.
E: Will it get worse?
Z: Yes, it will. Worse meaning more solar activity, more sunspots, and more matter coming into earth's direction.

E: Fine, I'll stop here if that's okay.
Z: Sure it is. We say thank you, and see you soon maybe. That is all.
E: Bye then.
Z: Take care.