Hi, i read an article on enlightenment with some interesting ideas. Id love to hear some thoughts/opinions as it seems to contradict a lot of things ive heard and read in past. Its a good article, here it is.
http://www.spiritualteachers.org/norquist_article.htm
Hey yormie,,,
While admitting that I'm not qualified to critique it, I'd nevertheless say that it's one of the best written and most easily understood essays on the subject that I've run across.
Thanks! - I bookmarked it.
What is described by the author is not anything like enlightenment. Although he does have a good grasp on the universe as consciousness.
This universe is only one of billions existing, within the millions of dimensions, now. It has awareness of itself, through it's experience of itself. It has gained this experience of itself by diversifying it's energy into ever smaller units, creating material things which experience the universes creations on it's behalf, and thereby allowing the entire process to proceed.
As such, each of those material creations is an observer. Without them their is nothing to observe or experience.
Eventually, the diversifying process created the huge souls that chose to incarnate a small portion of themselves into human and other being forms. Thus giving us the opportunity to experience for the benefit of this universe.
Enlightenment is caused by the act of oneness with the universe, usually brought about by raising the base chakra energy (kundalini) up the central nervous system to either the third eye or brow chakra It alters nothing else, except the being who experienced the enlightening. And it is different to what belief-systems would have you think it is. It isn't like a trophy you win and always have from then on. Enlightenment is something that has to be worked with in every moment of everyday in order to be of service to others and the universe.
Once you have had the enlightenment experience, you cannot turn back to leading a mediocre life, nor be so lazy as to choose to not want to put effort in somewhere, for the benefit of all other beings.
The author claims to be enlightened, I think you will find that they are deceived by their own self or those acting on other agendas.
Love always
His trigger for his 'enlightment' seems a bit silly, there must be more to it.
Anyone who has had a strong salvia experience has experienced this 'union'.
What I want to know is what is it that makes people think they are connecting with the universe and not their internal universe, no one ever mentions the fact that everything they are experiencing is an internal holographic reconstruction of input frequencys, so when the point of reference, the self or ego, which appears inside the head and therfore seperate from it's environment, merges into the environment, the internal holograph, it would be easy to mistaken this union as a universal thing when it probably is in fact just a 'melting' of consciousness within. You would think this simple notion would be addressed and reasons why it was more than just this would be given.
When I have merged with my experience on salvia I would freak out, holy crap I just became one with the universe,I no longer exist and everything is consciousness, but after realize, um no thats probably not what happened.
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This universe is only one of billions existing, within the millions of dimensions, now. It has awareness of itself, through it's experience of itself. It has gained this experience of itself by diversifying it's energy into ever smaller units, creating material things which experience the universes creations on it's behalf, and thereby allowing the entire process to proceed.
As such, each of those material creations is an observer. Without them their is nothing to observe or experience.
Eventually, the diversifying process created the huge souls that chose to incarnate a small portion of themselves into human and other being forms. Thus giving us the opportunity to experience for the benefit of this universe.
Vrey interesting stuff... How do you know that there are billions of universes and millions of dimensions?
Also, what do you mean by "huge souls"?
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Vrey interesting stuff... How do you know that there are billions of universes and millions of dimensions?
Also, what do you mean by "huge souls"?
Hi Covelo,
A few years back I experienced Oneness with this universe under the direction of guides and higher-self. Afterwards I spent much time travelling this universe and explored regions beyond it's boundary (a membranous, bubble-like skin)
There I experienced the truth of as above so below... there being billions of bubbleverses co-creating the big bangs of newly forming universes (also bubbles) I travelled into one other bubbleverse and realized that i did not resonate with it.
The fact of multi-dimensional exitence is verified by mathematics (universal language) once it is worked to the 11th dimension it opens up to allow multi-millions of dimensions, at which point the methematics evolves into a beautiful flow again.
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Also, what do you mean by "huge souls"?
Hi Covelo,
A few years back I experienced Oneness with this universe under the direction of guides and higher-self. Afterwards I spent much time travelling this universe and explored regions beyond it's boundary (a membranous, bubble-like skin)
There I experienced the truth of as above so below... there being billions of bubbleverses co-creating the big bangs of newly forming universes (also bubbles) I travelled into one other bubbleverse and realized that i did not resonate with it.
The fact of multi-dimensional exitence is verified by mathematics (universal language) once it is worked to the 11th dimension it opens up to allow multi-millions of dimensions, at which point the methematics evolves into a beautiful flow again.
Hi Tayesin,
It's good to see that you're still posting away here, after my temporary departure from the forum. :smile:
This is very interesting stuff. I also have been told that I travel to other parallel universes on a regular basis during sleep time. This would explain multitudinously bizarre nature of many "dreams" I've had. I also find that I don't resonate well with many of these places, but seem to have no problems getting things done there and back again. Have you considered going back out to other ones again? It would be interesting if we might travel together like that sometime and see what we can see, and find how we might elevate these other places, (if that doesn't sound too far fetched).
I just had a thought that if it were somehow possible to "tune" universes such that they would be more "compatible" with each other and then possibly to unite into one. OK, now I know I'm getting a little ahead of myself. These kinds of ideas really get me going...
A question: What were you able to discern of this other bubble-verse you found?
:smile:
That's enlightmenment? That buzz/high you get when you make yourself disappear during meditation? (Well, not really disappear but become part of everyting around you until there is no you.)
Hell, I did that by accident years ago. What I was really trying to do was that "empty your mind" exercise outlined in astral dynamics.
I had got too close to the "empty mind" and it kept scaring me, because if you cease to think then you are "dead." So I decided rather than having an "empty mind" I would simply think if it as being "invisible" "I'm not really here."
From there I started to slow down my breath and hyper-focus on my surroundings until I became one with my surroundings, and ceased to be.
It was very relaxing.
But is this one-and-the-same as "emptying your mind?" Or do I need to go back to the drawing board on that one? Because that's what I though I had achieved.
Shufflelot wrote:
QuoteWhat I want to know is what is it that makes people think they are connecting with the universe and not their internal universe,
Some metaphysical belief systems see both as the same.
About multidimensionality:
QuoteThe fact of multi-dimensional exitence is verified by mathematics (universal language) once it is worked to the 11th dimension it opens up to allow multi-millions of dimensions, at which point the methematics evolves into a beautiful flow again.
-Tayesin
It is one of the latest threories postulated by physicists, especially Stephen Hawkings and his String theory to explain how our universe is built.