Space.com: ET Visitors: Scientists See High Likelihood

[no_leaf_clover]

Now a team of American scientists note that recent astrophysical discoveries suggest that we should find ourselves in the midst of one or more extraterrestrial civilizations. Moreover, they argue it is a mistake to reject all UFO reports since some evidence for the theoretically-predicted extraterrestrial visitors might just be found there.

http://space.com/searchforlife/et_betterodds_050114.html

[Gandalf]

this whole issue highlights the (sometimes) blinkered view of the scientific community in which funding issues and peer pressure often restrict research enquiries.

I agree that 90% of 'ufo' reports can be explained as mistaken natural phenomena, hoaxes, whackos contacting 'zetans' etc.

However this leaves a hardcore 10% which cannot be expained, however because of the bad reputation of the 90% scientists just dismiss ALL reports and dont even bother to look at the high quality 10% at all, a move which is hardly scientific.

The usual answer to this is 'oh well the remaining 10% would also be explained if there was additional information available'.
This line usually means that the scientist or individual in question has not even bothered to look at these cases and is an assumption, not science.

The idea that the 10% high grade cases 'could also be explained if additional information was available' sounds reasonable but actually falls apart when applied to the remaining 10%.. some of these cases are quite extrordinary, with plenty of good evidence behind them, so the line that' there has never been good evidence' is also wrong, it is just another example of refusing to even look at these cases.

We have good case of unidentified vehicles operating at speeds and performing maneuvers which are assumed impossible for man-made craft today. There are a good number of cases on record where we have multiple unconnected eyewitness testemony over a wide area, backed up by radar confirmation, and in some cases by tracking cameras on onboard airforce planes sent to intercept these vehicles. The 1989 Belgian UFO flap was one good example, where the Belgian airforce was sent to repeatably intercept these vehicles, always without success... the vehicles are recorded on radar as well as the planes flight cameras and tracking system.
The radar info shows inpossible actions like speeds of 20,000 mph, followed by dead stops or right turns, all of which baffled aircraft engineers.

The Mexico City flaps also have good eyewitness accounts coupled with radar confimations and fighter plane lock-ons, with one Mexican airforce plane vanishing in one such incident 5 years ago.

I can't help but feel that one of the scientists who complied this report might have actually *read* some of these reports for the first time, rather than just making assumptions about them.. hense his 'oh there might actually be something in this' routine... It remains to be seen however if others in the community have the balls to at least read any of these reports or instead just waste millions of dollars on useless seti projects, continue with assumptions and  their 'if there are aliens, why arnt they here?' routines... perhaps the answer has been staring them in the face for years but no-one has the balls to research it properly.

Douglas

PS I would justl like to add an important point:
In my view there is plenty of evidence for advanced vehicles performing 'impossible' actions from standard physics' perspective, and if scientists actually bothered to check these high quality cases they would find a good body of evidence over many years.
Now, this leads on to  the next question: what are they and where are they from? People automatically assume 'aliens'. Now this may be a possibility. however it could be some kind of radically advanced experimental human craft.. however, the actions performed by many of these vehicles rules out such a possibility imo as even if military research is 10 years down the line from public research, there is no way as far as I know, that we can build craft capable of such maneuvers...
other possiblities inlcude visitors from alternate universes, with the alternate universe theory already being discussed by some scientists. Another idea might be time travellers..

The vehicles are certainly that... vehicles.. they show up on radar so they are physical, they give out heat signatures, as aircraft tracking systems 'lock' onto them.. they are intelligently controlled since they 'buzz' aircraft and perform other spectacular but controlled maneuvers, allbeit often in a way which is impossible according to modern standard physics..
In some cases they leave radioactive traces, in many cases landing sites have shown very high level radiation traces, in a famous US case, a woman developed severe radiation sickness and burns after a flyover by one such craft.. interestingly the diamond shaped craft was followed at close range by US army helicopters.. she later tried to get info from the army about this but was told that they knew nothing about it..
Medical examiners have confirmed that she has been exposed to seriously high levels of radiation, later resulting in cancer.

Personally I dont buy the 'man-made' hypothosis and I am more inclined to think that 'ETs' are actually a lot more straighforward an explanation.. although 'alternate universe' visitors might also be a possibility. We need more proper research on these and new cases.