the new teen Christian BIBLE of sex issues

[runlola]

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[no_leaf_clover]

If parents don't want their children reading it, they don't have to buy it for them. Oral sex, etc., is a surprisingly common issue for this age group, and being 17 I would have some idea. There is also a freedom of religion that allows such things to be published together. So there's really no issue.

Or wouldn't be if there weren't so many sheltered, uptight Christians. It's ridiculous that some people would actually protest the publication of this book.

The example given for homosexuality is extremely ignorant, as well. Homosexuality is not something that can or even needs to be 'cured' by scripture or anything else, and, though I'm no expert, I would be willing to bet most homosexuals have never had any such negative experience to turn them away from the opposite gender. Psychologists have found in recent years that bisexuality is the norm for most all creatures on Earth, and true homosexuals never 'go straight'.

I would also be willing to bet such complaints largely came from the South. Not much else to add to that, lol.

[Gandalf]

I agree. Whether you like it or not is no reason to ban it. There is freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Once you start banning texts you dont agree with, you start down a dangerous route, and its good to remember that once you start restricting freedom of speech and religion to enforce your own view, that same situation could later be used against you when people start banning things with YOU approve of.

It's so simple: if it offends you then dont buy it. But everyone has a right to read it if they wish. I don't really care about the book itself to be honest, but I'll be damned if I'm going to allow someone else to ban it because they have decided for me that I'm not to read it.... how nice of them....not!

Doug

PS if you're really into banning books and religious texts you don't approve of, you might as well move to Iran!  

[misterethoughts]

I really think this is quite interesting...

[Leannain]

hilarious reading

[You]

I am definitely going to obtain this to read it... hehehe.

Hmmm... I need to go to Presbyterian Church tomorrow for Easter.

[Jenadots]

It is good for a laugh.  Until someone teaches these young girls that oral sex at 14 is a using type of situation -- and teach these girls to say NO to being used like that, I guess we will have to put up with these pitiful attempts that will never replace a little self-respect.  

Being a teacher of teenagers, I see everyday that too many of our young girls are so eager to be liked, so starved for affection and attention that they will do just about anything.  It is really sad and it doesn't make them happy.  At their ages, this sort of thing is definitely not a two-way street.

Maybe they just need fathers or brothers to tell them not to give it up so easily.  Might have more of an effect than this.

[RT]

maybe they just need their mothers and fathers to stop working so many hours and spend more time with them. And divorcing at the drop of a hat.

I see that the US is a material national only trying to keep up with the people down the street, what they are missing is true meaning of life, their families, appreciation for what they already have and love.

Everyone has an excuse, the only thing that children want is love. I do understand bills need to be paid but people in the US always want more more, bigger and better.

What is the cost in the long run?  

[RT]

have you seen that movie "KIDS" (WHOA)
or what about "THIRTEEN"

Everyone has an excuse, the only thing that children want is love. I do understand bills need to be paid but people in the US always want more more, bigger and better.

kids want stuff too...cell phones, ipods, computers, cool clothes, etc...

Those aren't kids those are teenagers at that point.  Parents have the opportunity to be with their children at a young age, then they turn into teenagers and theirs kids want to be with friends.

I can assure you kids want love more than things.  Things are just things.

[Jenadots]

yes, the kids want love.  Just that too many of them are confusing the sex with love and confusing social popularity with love or  being envied with love.  

Granted, many parents work and commute too many hours to spend much time with their kids.  But many of those with long hours or two jobs are doing it to keep the kids in a better school district or a safer neighborhood -- or just to keep any kind of roof over their heads and food on the table.  

And anyone who has been around American kids for long knows they are "gimmee" machines -- want everything they see and they definitely see too much both materially and sexually at increasingly young ages.  

And if you talk to parents, it is always well at least they aren't doing drugs, and my kid doesn't do that anyway.  Well, it is somebody's kid and as we all remember, teenagers do not tell parents everything.  Even the ones who sound like they are, just sound like they are - they aren't really revealing much, just blabbing away.  

a recent survey showed that 2/3 of all 17 year olds have had sex or oral sex.  What kind of men and women are they going to be?

[Sasuke]

On the one hand, good for them for getting their heads out of the sandbox! It's great that there's a bible that speaks to younger girls now in a way that's not full of euphemism and skirting around issues.

On the other hand, "warning" a lesbian that some old dead guy said something against being lesbian? Yeah, not going to help her enjoy life. You can't 'recover' from being a lesbian. You can't take a 'lesbian sick leave.' You don't 'choose' to be lesbian. I mean, really. "Hey, I'm going to choose a lifestyle in which people will loathe and despise my very existence!" Instead, you're going to get a potentially suicidal teenage girl who thinks God will hate her no matter what she does. Good job!

[Leyla]

GOD COMMANDS RAPE

A direct quote from the Christian god YHWH.

"Their children shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes! There houses spoiled, and their wives raped...Dash the young men to pieces...have no pity on the fruit of the womb, the children shall not be spared"; -- Isa 13:16-18

[In some bibles the word "raped" is "ravished." Before we go thinking they were ravished with kisses and poetry, lets translate "ravished" back to the original Hebrew. shagal, shaw-gal; a prim root; to copulate with: -lie with, rape. Clear enough? Also done in Zec. 14:2]

GODLY MEN THROW THEIR DAUGHTERS TO MOBS FOR RAPE!
Righteous men of the Bible routinely offer to have mobs rape their virgin daughters! Thats right, women have so little value that they plead with crazed mobs to rape them!

"I have two daughters that have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and ye do to them as is good in your eyes: only to these men do nothing." (Genesis 19: 8 )

PEADOPHILIA AND INCEST
I guess it was good the mob did not want Lot's daughters, because he gets to have sex with his own daughters in (Genesis 19:33). [Oh, but according to his story they got him drunk, and they wanted it! -Yeah right, where have I heard this before, Oh I remember it was out of the mouths of degenerate incestuous child-molesters!]

SHOCKING HORROR NIGHTMARE STORY!
In (Judges 19:24-29) a man takes his concubine/sex-slave and THROWS her out to the crowd! They rape and beat her all throught the night. When they are done she manages to crawl to the front door, where she collapses. He gets up the next morning and prepares to leave, not caring what might have become of her! He stumbles across her on the porch on his way out. Does he cry? Apologise? Ask if she needs medical attention? No. He says "Up, and let us be going."

She doesn't answer him. I wouldn't either. The bible is unclear whether she was dead or unconscious. But then, the freak decides to carve her up into little pieces and send the pieces out to people!

Again, this man is potrayed as being upright and rightious.

XXX RATED!

Song of Solomon 8:2 - "I would cause him to drink of the spiced wine of the juice of my pomegranante."

I know what you're thinking. Pomegranates don't contain spiced wine. That's because pomegranate was a sexual euphemism for a womans vagina. The fleshy ripened fruit looks exactly like one, especially when it splits down the seam and drips red juice. The pomegranate tree was called "The Tree of Life" because the vulva is the source of all life. It wasn't an apple Adam and Eve ate in the garden. It was a pomegranate.

Song of Solomon 5:4-5 - "My beloved put this hand by the hole of the door and my bowels were moved for him. I rose to open for my beloved, my hands dripped with myrrh, my fingers with sweet smelling myrrh upon the handles of the lock."  

I know what you're thinking. What kind of door has a hole in it? And why would it move her bowels when puts his hand there? And why is it that when she puts her hand on lock of this door her fingers become wet with sweet smelling...uh...myrrh?

[no_leaf_clover]

I know what you're thinking. Pomegranates don't contain spiced wine. That's because pomegranate was a sexual euphemism for a womans vagina. The fleshy ripened fruit looks exactly like one, especially when it splits down the seam and drips red juice. The pomegranate tree was called "The Tree of Life" because the vulva is the source of all life. It wasn't an apple Adam and Eve ate in the garden. It was a pomegranate.

Interesting. On a totally unrelated note, lol, let's talk about how healthy fruits can be for you.

On second thought, since the image is so suggestive it may very well be moderated, check out this link instead: Mmmm!

[Leyla]

Before the moderaters pull these links for being pornographic, I want to say that you are looking at pictures of FRUIT.
Anything else you see is a product of your filthy imaginations. And shame on you.






Interstingly enough, I also found many paintings of the Holy Mother pictured with a Pomegranate. With the baby Jesus, her "seed."

[Gandalf]

Why not? don't be such a puritcanical prude

The pomegranate represents fertility and new life, the cycle of life as well as the female aspect of this.

What god of the Sun would not have such imagery... (officially god of the SON, but the SUN aspect is still to be found there!).


Doug

PS and for anyone who doesnt think the pomegranate has certain similarities to certain features of the female anatomy, I say look again! If you can't see this then I really do feel sorry for you!

[Logic]

Literature and philosophies like this can sevrely damage young minds for years to come. Even though creating restrictions can be for the right means, they can produce the wrong ends. I personally dont think its wrong, but I think there is a limit.

Teenagers (and people) will do whatever they want when they think are ready, (weather or not they really are) and everyone has to live with that.

[Leyla]

More XXX Pics for Gandalf and Lola!!!




Ever notice that the covering the Torah is traditionally draped in is covered with pomegranets?

And the temple of Solomon (A king notorious for turning to Goddess worship) had pomegranets decorating his temple?

I once brought this up to a Rabbi and he said:

"What? Jews don't want fertility too?  We wanted our crops to grow, our animals to multipy, and many Jewish babies to be born. We were a small tribe you know. We needed all the fertility we could get."

[Gandalf]

They look really tasty. I want to eat them!

[mactombs]

They look really tasty. I want to eat them!

No! No pomegranates for you Scottish folk! You'll just ruin them like you did sheep stomachs and whiskey!

And none for Canadians either ... you can't trust anyone keeping quiet and to themselves for so long ... they've got to be planning something ...

[Gandalf]

No way.. we invented true whisky and note 'whisky' not 'whiskey' with an 'e' which denotes that crudy irish tapwater that emerged on the US market when the the irish tried to get in on the act!  

Good old Scotch Whisky... the original and best... but what Malt... now there is another question...

Doug
PS Give me a  Glenfiddich any day!

[mactombs]

Good old Scotch Whisky... the original and best... but what Malt... now there is another question...

I know, I was just being facetious ... mmm, Scotch ... why, I even have a little flask of it here on my desk ... What's that you say? Drink you? But I'm still writin

[Gandalf]

I know, I was just being facetious

I know, I was just being unserious!



Doug