A Very Effective Product For Projection (OBE AP OOBE)

jeck140 · May 27, 2009, 17:05:49

I have tried many products that are supposed to induce astral projection. I have been projecting for around 3 years and during that time, I went through many many products. Most of them are scams. However I found a product that makes Astral projection as easy as falling asleep! Yes it is that easy! The product is called lucidology and it was created by the founder of saltcube. I highly recommend lucidology 101 and 102. You can purchase them off www.lucidology.com or you can message me for a link to a download of it. I do not mean to cause any financial damage to the creator of this product but I just wish to be able to share this with the world. Such information should not have a price placed upon it for it is priceless! Hope this product works well for you guys!

curiousvoid · May 27, 2009, 19:45:28

Are you sure you would give links out?

jeck140 · May 27, 2009, 21:14:38

Maybe if you want it. I dont want to cause any trouble or get banned from this forum but I also want to share this information with other people because its really not worth any money because such information is priceless

catstorm3 · May 28, 2009, 01:12:35

I wouldn't give it out. It is worth every penny, and the author is entitled to his money. I just had my first AP after only 2 weeks of using this method.

By the way there is tons of useful information in the free product, 101. This is basically how I AP, even though I've also been doing 102 (the commercial product).

Panthau · May 28, 2009, 11:36:45

I´d be interested (i have something to give back).
Im not sure if my PM was send, but you can contact me
at vlp-at-gmx.at

Thanks,
Pan

jeck140 · May 28, 2009, 15:20:35

Quote from: catstorm3 on May 28, 2009, 01:12:35
I wouldn't give it out. It is worth every penny, and the author is entitled to his money. I just had my first AP after only 2 weeks of using this method.

By the way there is tons of useful information in the free product, 101. This is basically how I AP, even though I've also been doing 102 (the commercial product).

I know what you mean man. Im just here to help and this guy is probobly doing quite well for himself with saltcube and lucidology. I only wish for people to experience projection in a timely manner!

catstorm3 · May 29, 2009, 07:15:28

Quote from: jeck140 on May 28, 2009, 15:20:35
I know what you mean man. Im just here to help and this guy is probobly doing quite well for himself with saltcube and lucidology. I only wish for people to experience projection in a timely manner!

True as well. I suppose if someone found it helpful (and they were financially able to ) then they might find it in their hearts to donate to the guy afterwards for helping with something which is so difficult!

jeck140 · May 29, 2009, 14:56:45

Quote from: catstorm3 on May 29, 2009, 07:15:28
True as well. I suppose if someone found it helpful (and they were financially able to ) then they might find it in their hearts to donate to the guy afterwards for helping with something which is so difficult!

Yeah yeah I know what you mean. Buying astral projection products is a sort of thing that is very risky to do and can cost you much money with no success. Its like one of those things where you test it and then pay for it. I bought it myself and I got three other people to buy it too so the guy who made it should have enough money

Dynamyke · May 30, 2009, 01:11:03

Hey jeck, i send ya a pm. hope you check your inbox out soon...

Panthau · May 30, 2009, 02:41:39

So...i have teh "stuff" from jeck, although i read yesterday only the free version (out of confusion, didnt knew where to begin).
I woke up today at about 6am (+1 GTM, Vienna) and tried tricking my body to fall asleep. Its kinda funny,
trying to "play" sleeping, so your mind "thinks" you are asleep...hehe

I came to a slight paralysis, which is a big step for me. After 1h or so, i gave up and fell asleep again.
Until i woke up a few minutes ago...out of nothing i started heavy vibrations (i can not say how i did it,
it was like tensing my muscles). I could feel my body, it was totaly heavy but i could move (at least my
toes). I thought ok now think about flying upwards, but nothing happend...so i tried just to sit up to see
if im oob. I could, but i felt like a big stone hehe...then i started to look at my hands, to see if they were
transparent or something and they looked like E.T.´s fingers and i could barely see them. Because i felt so heavy,
i let myself fall back to my body (or back to bed, i didnt saw my body) and that moment i was "awake".

The whole thing felt like a very very vivid dream, i saw parts of my bed but it was like i zoomed in or i was totaly
tiny and the whole scene felt totaly "different" from my normal "feeling". Thats why i´d rather think it was a dream.

So if this goes on that way, ill surely pay that guy

Praveen · May 30, 2009, 12:58:20

Yes, I just received it too, thanks it looks great and I would like to ask everyone else
that also received it please if it works for you and you have the money please buy it, as
I will be doing.

catstorm3 · May 31, 2009, 01:32:27

Would anyone be interested in joining a mailing list to discuss his technique/progress ? He has a private forum but there is not much activity.

If so, I think the best would be to PM me.

Panthau · May 31, 2009, 04:31:33

Why do you even want to split up in mailing lists or other forums when
we have this big forum where we can discuss everything we want?

catstorm3 · May 31, 2009, 09:34:19

Quote from: Panthau on May 31, 2009, 04:31:33
Why do you even want to split up in mailing lists or other forums when
we have this big forum where we can discuss everything we want?

(In retrospect) I tend to agree. What do others think?

Praveen · May 31, 2009, 09:58:58

I agree this is the perfect place to discuss it.

Dynamyke · May 31, 2009, 11:03:20

Agreed

catstorm3 · May 31, 2009, 22:29:14

I'm sorry to harp on this subject, but I am gobsmacked by how the freely available Lucidology 101 has helped me to AP.

Forget about the commercial L102, L101 helped me more than anything I've read or practiced in the past 6 months. He mentions mistakes and myths that books actually TELL YOU to make.

I'm so surprised at the authors of these books. Its like they missed the point entirely.

When I was watching Nicholas Newport's material, I was just going ... aha! aha!

Some of the points...

1) Sleep paralysis, confusingly named body awake/mind asleep, is one of the major markers in OBE, but it is not the actual event - it happens BEFORE you can AP. You need to relax thru it! No-one mentioned this before, that I've read.

2) You can AP lying on your side! I didn't think this was possible until it happened to me last night, and him revealing this unveiled one of my stumbling blocks

I could go on and on. The material (L101) is very extensive and I recommend everyone serious about AP give it a try. I think it has saved me years of time!

jeck140 · June 01, 2009, 18:05:30

Quote from: catstorm3 on May 31, 2009, 22:29:14
I'm sorry to harp on this subject, but I am gobsmacked by how the freely available Lucidology 101 has helped me to AP.

Forget about the commercial L102, L101 helped me more than anything I've read or practiced in the past 6 months. He mentions mistakes and myths that books actually TELL YOU to make.

I'm so surprised at the authors of these books. Its like they missed the point entirely.

When I was watching Nicholas Newport's material, I was just going ... aha! aha!

Some of the points...

1) Sleep paralysis, confusingly named body awake/mind asleep, is one of the major markers in OBE, but it is not the actual event - it happens BEFORE you can AP. You need to relax thru it! No-one mentioned this before, that I've read.

2) You can AP lying on your side! I didn't think this was possible until it happened to me last night, and him revealing this unveiled one of my stumbling blocks

I could go on and on. The material (L101) is very extensive and I recommend everyone serious about AP give it a try. I think it has saved me years of time!

Lucidology 101 is an amazing product! But lucidology 102 offers far easier methods to project. Its so easy that all you have to do is fall asleep and let the techniques works for you. Lucidology 101 is good but 102 is far better.

dbmathis · June 01, 2009, 21:13:24

Has the price of this product gone up or something or am I just making tons of money these days? I think I paid 50 bucks for 101 and 102 combined.

Why not just pay for it? Paying for it emphasizes what society values. This helps to perpetuate Astral Projection and over time will fund serious research into the subject.

We buy genetically modified, sodium nitrate poisoned and chemically altered foods that make criminals that own the companies filthy rich while killing us. Then at the same time we don't want to spend a measly 50 bucks on a great product from a guy that poured his heart and soul into helping us. Seems like we have our priorities mixed up.

Stealing products such as this does our entire community a huge disservice.

jeck140 · June 02, 2009, 19:58:35

Quote from: dbmathis on June 01, 2009, 21:13:24
Has the price of this product gone up or something or am I just making tons of money these days? I think I paid 50 bucks for 101 and 102 combined.

Why not just pay for it? Paying for it emphasizes what society values. This helps to perpetuate Astral Projection and over time will fund serious research into the subject.

We buy genetically modified, sodium nitrate poisoned and chemically altered foods that make criminals that own the companies filthy rich while killing us. Then at the same time we don't want to spend a measly 50 bucks on a great product from a guy that poured his heart and soul into helping us. Seems like we have our priorities mixed up.

Stealing products such as this does our entire community a huge disservice.

I see your point dbmathis but not all of us can afford some of these things. I am only doing my service to astral projectors to make it easier for them. I already bought his product 10 times over to help him out. Besides I really dont think he needs all the money. If all these people are buying it then he should be fine financially.

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