Am i right?

[Kazbadan]

So many readings about how to obe that now i got confused. Lets see if i get: basically, what you need to do to have an obe is just close your eyes and try to achieve a sleep like state of the mind and body, but keep your conscious alive. For example: you go to bed, and lay down on it in your back. Then you just wait for sleepness to come, but try to maintain your mind alive (meditate, whatever). Then, after some time, your body is a sleep or you have a sleep paralysis. Then you must feel yourself going out (from my spontaneous obes, i think that this is is the easiest part).

Am i right? Is all that i need to do?

[knightlight]

Basically.  it helps to try to get your awareness outside of yourself by imagining yourself somewhere or moving your awareness around the room.  Other than that small bit of info thats about the most simple explanation of OBE's I have ever heard.

[Kazbadan]

When do you apply that "moving" awareness? After the body fall asleep? Before?

thanks

[knightlight]

both... sort of...     When I use this technique I usually am laying down and after a few minutes (maybe 5 or so) I will be in a light to medium trance.  I will then begin imagining myself stretching my arms and legs out and floating so my feet hit the wall below my feet and I push off and then my arms hit the wall above my head and I push back until I am bouncing from one wall to the next.  I am not doing this mind you, I am simply imagining exactly how it would feel to lay on a skateboard for example and roll from one wall to the next, back and forth pushing off with my hand and then my feet and eventually I feel myself loosen up and I float up and out most of the time.  Another thing is to shift your awareness around the room in a circle, just imagine yourself running on the walls in a circle around the room as fast as you can.  THe whole point is to forget about your body and project to the body you are imagining.  Hope this helps.

[magicmac2000]

The simplicity of these posts is fascinating Congrats guys

[knightlight]

well all this talk about OBE's got my mind thinking so I went and took a nap and tried to OBE.  I tried the technique I mentioned with the bouncing on the walls and it almost worked (and has worked for me in the past) I felt myself bobbling about a bit and loosening up but I didnt project until I tried to spin.  I tried to spin so my head would go where my feet where and then around 360 degrees but it didnt work until I started rotating forwards instead of off to the side like a wheel.  It felt like someone had a rod through my waist and was pushing down on my feet and then my head as I spun around the bar, head over feet.  It got so fast I thought I was going faster than anything ever has!!!       I felt myself spinning forward and getting faster and faster and my vision started going from black to light blue and I could hear rushing wind and feel it on my face.  I then successfully went OBE for about a minute (bah!!! always so short...   ) and then came back.  Good luck to all who try this as it seems to be the most successful for me.  On an aside I started off in FoC2 and then came back to the RTZ and had a brief overlay experience before waking.

[magicmac2000]

knightlight, did you feel vibes or something like that ?

[knightlight]

well I did for a bit on my first attempt with the pushing off, but I got to a point where it felt as if I was going to OBE and suddenly I was all excited and it stopped.  The second time I felt no vibes during my successfull OBE.  I have had plenty of OBE's without vibes though and I dont consider them a prerequisite.

[Froglet]

how do you spin with out moving your body?

[knightlight]

good question...  basically I just visualize it and imagine exactly how it would feel and eventually I start to feel dizzy and then I will feel gravity kick in and its off to the races, the rest it does itself, usually initiated by my will.  I just sort of push out with my mind/astral body once I feel separated enough.  Sometimes it works, sometimes not.

[mactombs]

Nice posts, knightlight.

Your motion technique isn't exactly new, but the way you explain your personal experiences with it is. I'm impressed you can get dizzy and feel the motion so well. I have problems with that when I try for the more traditional OBE. I'm going to try doing what you talk about, bouncing back and forth.

[Kazbadan]

About feeling dizzy: One day i pushed/"forced" so much an attempt to an obe that after the experiment i was dizzy and feeling very bad, like if i was sick and with no strenghts at all (and i did not peoject!, lol).

Anyway, thanks for the replys, now i see the essence of an obe. Sometimes you read so much and read so many things in high detail that you just forget the essential. Thats the reason for my question. I am a teacher in real  life and one thing that i know that is good for the kids is that first you must give a general view of the things that are beeing study, then you went on details and finally you must come back again to the general view, like in a final resume. It should happen the same with obes methods: general view-specifics-general view.

At least with me works best.

[knightlight]

I have done the same thing and its not a good idea!!     I usually dont try and push in the beginning because it will just give me a headache and I think alot of that has to do with the effort.  Your mentally stressing yourself and then your muscles in your face and neck tighten up and its just not good.  I wait until all else fails and I KNOW I should be able to separate because I can feel like I am floating or sliding around, I usually just use it to get me over the edge.  

I agree with your ideas on how to explain it.  I am SO glad to be back in the game and able to help people.  I remember when I first came to this forum and didnt know an astral portal from my own a** and learned everything from the ground up.  Now I am finally in a position to give something back and its incredible.  This thread is a perfect example of why I love this forum.  Its got its kooks and mystics and total clueless noobs but at its core there isnt any other forum like it, full of dynamic people with tons of experience and good hearts and minds to help others.

[Kazbadan]

Thats nice to know

hey, knightlight, do you want to help qbeac on his experiments. He is searching for people that wants to make experiments (on theiw own homes) and see the results and then transmit the results to us.

The more people doing the experiments, the more info we will have for see if OBEs are real or not (i hope that "yes", is real).