Astral Mapping

[rugby149]

Yes, but i would imagine that is because like in rugby, there are many individuals who turn up on a Sunday for the pie eating XV but there are few Johnny Wilkinsons around. It comes down to ability and time constraints.

The research facility is a good idea but who would fund it and for what reasons. Wasn't SRI set up in response to the cold war and what the Soviets were getting upto? (I could be wrong on that)

[darrenbeck]

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[Nate]

How would you map the astral though? Unlike this dimension you can't launch a satilite and take a good look around. Then there's planes and subplanes and kingdoms and realms to think about. The entire thing just seems unpractile to me.

-Nate

[Adrian]

Greetings!

Robert did mention on the Art Bell program, in response to a question, that he would indeed like to map the Astral Planes. He also mentioned that this would be a very big task indeed, and would require much assistance to do it anything like properly. But it seems to be on the agenda certainly.

This is a very exciting prospect indeed, and potentially pushing the boundaries of knowledge of the Astral realms beyond current levels - from some perspectives anyway.

In Astral Dynamics, Robert describes in a very graphic way, the various Planes, with the areas in between the Planes, and the amazing surface "skins" visible on their approach.

Another, and extremely important perspective, is the Kaballistic "Tree of Life", with the many paths between the realms. How the two approaches reconcile is one for Robert!

Very interesting indeed  

Best regards,

Adrian.

[antiloop]

quote:
Robert did mention on the Art Bell program, in response to a question, that he would indeed like to map the Astral Planes. He also mentioned that this would be a very big task indeed, and would require much assistance to do it anything like properly. But it seems to be on the agenda certainly.

Hmmm, I have some concerns regarding this monumental task:
1) The projectors selected for this task would have to be VERY experienced as based on my beginner experiences the Astral is a very fluid area in the sense that while trying to project to the same location twice, thrice or more often results in different visual/audio and sensual results. How many of you have projected just outside of your body in your room more than once. Did your room look identical each time? How can you map something and determine what is located there if each time it may change?

2) From what I've read in other sources from people having "Astral Meetings" and then confirming in the physical plane via e-mail or phone of the things they saw at the same location where they met. It was my impression that the different people attending the these Astral Meetings at the same locations did not have 100% the same experience. Ie. They did not see the same things, feel the same things or hear the same things. It sounded as if they did however see SIMILAR things, but never 100% identical, yet they (3 or 4+ people) were all there at the same time and space. So it seems what is viewed in the Astral is subject to each person's viewpoint and deciphering of symbology pertinant to only them, like in a dream.

3) According to Robert the buffer zones with membrane like surfaces appear to have an infinate span. How do you go about mapping infinity? And furthermore, if each doorway looks identical (see back cover of his book) and the doorways aren't labeled (A,B,C or 1,2,3 etc) how can you come back to the same place to confirm what you saw there? Or how can you communicate the location of this to another person once you have "mapped it" ?

These are only surface scratching questions.. I'm sure dozens more could be thought up. But this is a good start.

Any comments on this Robert?

antiloop

[SteppenWolf]

I think mapping would be a fabulous idea - and it only takes someone to start it to kick things off.  How about it, Adrian?  At the moment, there's just no mechanism even if people have things to add.

About the issue of people having different impressions of astral travels, aren't reality fluctuations only a problem in the real-time zone and not the higher levels?

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[Adrian]

Greetings!

I am not at all sure that mapping the Astral planes is even remotely feasible. How does one map infinity?

The Astral planes encompass the entire Universe as a continuum at the various Astral levels of vibration - and that is a rather large area for each vibrational level - an infinitely large area in fact! The Astral realms also contain life and therefore creations from life and other beings that have passed on from all of the planets in the physical Universe, and which are not necessarily recognisable or understandable by humans. In addition to that, it can be a highly subjective rather than objective view to those who do not reside there.

I suppose it might be possible to take an area like the "Park" per Monroe's Focus 27 and map that vicinity - I just don't know. I am very happy to discuss this, but suggest that we should not underestimate the enormity of the project.

With best regards,

Adrian.

[andy]

Ive been told its being done by a group in the midwest and n.california.(this was back in the 80s)
I tried to link up with this group in  n.california but missed my chance by seconds.The second chance never came as the girl who was to introduce me died from a dam drug overdose.( R.I.P Donna,where ever you are.http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_sad.gif" border=0> )

As for the midwest,my mentor and martial arts instructor of many years had a sister by the maidin name of "Saxon" who was  extreamly involved with a group that was doing all kinds of research on the astral together.

Both groups I was told were "mapping".

For what its worth.

Peace!

[Tom]

If I ever get out of my body and learn to do it on a regular basis, there will be no limit to what I can do. I am already starting to make progress while in the body. Too bad no one can help me astral project the way I can send reiki attunements. It would be too easy.

[Tracy]

This is a great idea!  But first I think we need a little GUIDE action going on.  Has anyone talked to their guides about this monumental idea?  I bet they would love to help.

Tracy

"Grab your magic wings and fly!"

[SteppenWolf]

The idea is only monumental when you imagine trying to have the whole thing mapped out.   The creation of the internet was a monumental task, but all it took was for someone to lay out the framework and for anyone who was interested to contribute.  Contribute they did and now it's jammed full of info.  It's by no means the complete repository of all information, but does that mean it wasn't worth starting?  No way.

Adrian - if you can find a way to allow people to add information to an open-ended repository then that's all people need to add their info.

Once again, I reckon that a freeware Wiki-Web would be the simplest solution.  And there are now ASP versions around like this one:
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?AspWiki
(So no worries with yukky old Perl cgi scripts which I know you don't like.)

Of course if you can find something better then that would be terrific.  It does however need to be something which can be infinitely added to and structured and restructured in a fairly organic way.

Also as far as structure goes, people can just give any old names to the areas they find just as random names have been given to vast tracts of the Earth.  If they're misleading they can be changed.  The cool thing about using a Wiki is that nothing is set in stone and is always open to review.  Even a forum area could be set up to discuss amendments etc before people made serious changes.  And different indexes could be made for them by plane (for those who see the plane grid) or verbal/nonverbal level or whatever.

In the end, it's easy to say "It's too hard!" or "Where would you begin?" and beginning a large task is always psychologically hard, but a lot of the time you only just need to kick things off and let momentum build.  I imagine that a lot of the regular astral travellers would be quite keen to describe their regular astral haunts etc and compare their experiences in these places.

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[k2sixx]

If the Projector could give the following info for each locale: What was going through the mind?
That's the part that makes it appear a difficult task, is the everchanging environment.  As long as thoughts are controlled and properly applied, a rough map could take form.

[darrenbeck]

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