Changes in your outside life

Stookie · September 29, 2005, 23:22:17

Since I've been practicing OBE on a regular basis, lots have changed in my life - most of it I think because my perception of reality has changed. My job is different, friends & family relationships, and just plain all around "living". I think all positive changes, even if I don't notice it at first. I've always been a fairly shy, quiet guy, but in recent months have had a confidence I've never experienced. Many people, especially my boss, have noticed and commented on this.

The reason I bring this up is because it's something I rarely read about: Changes in person's physical life because of changes in their inner life.

Has many others here experienced this kind of change? If so, how has your life changed in relation to OBE?

RenaissanceMan · September 29, 2005, 23:32:52

My luck has improved. I have better dreams, more to my liking.

knightlight · September 29, 2005, 23:52:09

I think alot has changed in my life. I cant really take anything too seriously anymore and I dont really get angry about little or even medium things anymore. I am more laid back, even though I have always been somewhat laid back. I look forward to sleep because my dreams are sort of just a continuation of waking life for the most part, I always have something to wake up and reflect on or laugh about. Most of my friends say they cant remember their dreams and call me a kook but I think my life would be dreadfully miserable and boring if I didnt have OBE/vivid dreams alot. It gives me a wider spectrum of thought outside of my life/the world. I could go on, but needless to say the change is big.

magicmac2000 · September 30, 2005, 07:46:10

Stookie: I had just one and a half spontaneous OBE so far so I can't tell you anything about changes after OBEing. But the simple thing of searching through all these things and the continuous practice made a lot of changes in my way of thinking.
First, as knightlight said, I don't take things too seriously.
Second, I lost my fear to "investigate" and find out things by myself. I came from a Christian family, and I still believe in that religion but I'm making questions to myself all the time about it. I started to realize that religions -for me- are not big deal anymore.
Think about this: why am I Christian, and why a Indian is Buddhist ? I think that I'm Christian because I came from a family like that, so I don't question about this. I used to think that "My God" was God and that "My Jesus" was the only one, but why should I be right ? Do I have any proof more than my faith ? Where do my faith come from ?
So, I'm not afraid of trying to be an Explorer, a curious guy anymore. I think -right now, today- that the only important thing is how much love you have and can give. Do I have proof about that ? Nope, that's just my opinion, but I came to that just by myself, even if religions or whoever talk about love, right now I can feel just by myself about that.
So, just to be short and instead of making a boring post, I can tell you that these things made BIG CHANGES in the way I think even if I can't Phase/Project at will yet. I removed a lot of my prejudices and I hear everyone with much more attention.

Magic.

Targett · September 30, 2005, 07:57:13

Gradually losing the fear of death.

When you know that life goes past the grave, the most important thing becomes HOW you are living instead of living for material things.

OBE's have made me become a very spiritual person, and i try to cultivate as much spiritual qualities/virtues as i can. So thats completely changed my life

Stookie · September 30, 2005, 11:20:43

Like magic and knightlight said, there are many things I just don't take too seriously anymore, and don't see why I did. My memories of the past have changed drastically. I was always very hung up on the past. But now it seems a lot of the nostalgia has been sucked out of those memories, and I can see them for what they are. I use to have fantasies of going back to those times, and now I have no desire at all to leave my place in life. I'm not sure exactly why all this is. I guess it has something to do with my total overview of life from birth until death.

Stevo · October 01, 2005, 00:07:47

Firstly, I believe in order to even achieve an astral state of mind, you are thrown in to the adaption of a postive, more friendly persona. When man looks at the stars he says, "Each one of those are no bigger than my eye." When a man stands next to a star, he says, "I am no bigger than the eye of the star." Of course, in order to get there you have to know you'll find more than a dot in the sky.

Secondly, I can relate to everyone. I'm laid back and happy, even if I don't know if I'll have a home in a month. I'm a devout Christian, yet not devoutly religious anymore. To bring my say in, I find more makes sense. Even if I don't get what I want I get what I need, sometimes I become the tool in which others get what they want. I just know eventually it'll get back around to me in good time, when I need it the most

Unison · October 01, 2005, 02:29:43

I can relate to this. I am more perceptive to reality now and I feel that everything I think and do has an effect on everything so I try to influence it in positive ways. I have had alot more dreams and positive experiences lately and also increased my physical goals as well as some of my spirtitual goals. Nothing but improvement to be honest. Just think positive and visualize and have faith and it will manifest. GG

The Highest Color · October 01, 2005, 10:00:15

hi everubody!

Aastral and Obee should be a subject in school!
think of the tomorrow children! WOW!!!

knightlight · October 01, 2005, 15:29:28

One major thing I forgot to mention is that now I realize that anything is possible. I dont doubt anything anymore. If I am in a position where I would normally say "man, I cant do that... No way!" I will metaphorically smack myself a few times and say "anything is possible and you know it."

adamscottbaker · October 01, 2005, 22:36:21

Hi,
Its simple for me, Im more positive and happy and have little fear in every thing that i do, probably because i know that this life isnt the be all and end all.

Zarklon · October 02, 2005, 04:45:03

I'de have to say that studying and practicing astral projection has really change my entire outlook on life , lifestyle, personality , and religion.

Maybe the only drawback I've noticed about how much it has changed my life is how my parents and friends and now even family has started to look at me wierd.. They just arent understanding enough to see how I view life and that all I want here in this physical shell is to be happy if I have to put up with all the crap that goes along with it hehe. Its maybe made me a little more shy around people simply because I tend to be a little to open a little too quick but once I feel that someone knows about this side of me , I seem to be my old self pretty quickly.

I wouldnt have it any other way!

oilfieldpilot · October 11, 2005, 14:43:47

Ditto to Knightlight
and Big Ditto to Zarklon!

I have gone from a strong type-A personality, mongo overachiever, seeker, etc. to do all and be all, conquer all...but for the allllll the wrong reasons! ...to a very laid back, let life happen and enjoy each day, kind of person...but I still continue my quests to satisfy Me. And things seem to come so much easier! I no longer struggle nor fight factors to achieve a goal or accomplish a task.

I learned to live life for...M-y-s-e-l-f! not for others.
Also, words of wisdom from my mother who told me during tough days in college, such as,"When one door shuts, a dozen windows open..." or "Just think about a person in China...what would he care (about my 'problem')?"

I am now 37 and little things like that have so much meaning for me today (and obviously no meaning back then).

I still have goals and my love for exploration and doing as much as I can and want is still there, but for ME, not for my ego nor to 'show the world' I am worthy of living.
I don't get hung up on petty $hit, politics, crisis, etc anymore. Hell I just went thru 2 monster hurricanes that erased most of my work 'homes' and areas off the face of the earth (Gulf coast and Gulf Mexico). But I realize this is the risk we take in this environment. It's happened in the past, and gonna happen in the future. Get over it

Leave or rebuild! But don't forget to make the Best out of a crappy situation!

I think That has been my biggest lesson: looking for the silver lining in every cloud that has rained on my life. I know that each time I do trust that something not so great is happening for a reason, something better is just around the corner. And that has proven the case time and time again in my life.

Also, building my intuition to be strong and obvious has saved my life beaucoup...I Never second guess it. And I am still here today because I learned to trust it

I have a thirst to discover all that is "out there" And "Within Us".
Problems only flatten your tires and slow your travel...and bottom line, No one else cares!
"85% of people don't care about your problem, and the other 15% who Do care, are Glad it is Your problem, not theirs!"

...and $$$$! Geez, the day I started Worrying about having tooooo much of the dirty green stuff...Wow!
Watch you thoughts...

Happy travels all!
thanks for sharing

ofp

jub jub · October 11, 2005, 15:37:19

I find myself less interested in material things and more interested in spiritual things. Trying to achieve total enlightenment I guess.

Stookie · October 11, 2005, 16:21:04

As I read through these posts it got me thinking: Everyone here has similar things to say, yet comes from different places & areas of life. But AP creates a freedom and confidence that everyone can relate to.

Now, think about what a group like this can do. It kind of fits in with the World Peace thread too. Everyone figuring these things out on their own, but with the help of others who are also figuring it out.

I can only imagine what the world would be like if this was on a bigger scale. The more people that attempt to figure out these things, the more it can spread to others.

QuoteMaybe the only drawback I've noticed about how much it has changed my life is how my parents and friends and now even family has started to look at me wierd..

I had this problem too, at first. But as my confidence in the world around me increased, other people noticed this including my Parents. I don't talk about AP around them, but I think they see something in me that wasn't there before.

oilfieldpilot · October 11, 2005, 17:30:08

Great point Stookie!

I find that I want to share all of this with like-minded; open-minded people. The 3D- 5 sense people just aren't ready...and you're the one deemed 'weird' amongst other things.

I find being there to help people in need (that is, not a hand out, but a hand-up,) or being able to make a positive influence in someone's life is more rewarding than anything else, at least to me

But too, if there was world peace, would we cease to exist? Lots of jobs would certainly be unnecessary!
Personally, I don't think it will ever happen; not if Mother Nature has her way! If catastrophes such as super volcanoes (forget the asteroid crap; been disproved) as evident in geologic record were not a factor, then perhaps we'd get close. But I also think human "span" is too wide (as Monroe described in his Spheres of belief and beyond) As long as there are religions and women (easy now!) there will always be wars; according to 'history'.

I think self-annihilation, not necessarily via weapons, but via overpopulation, will put humanity on the brink. Look at all the other mass extinctions over geologic time...most, if not all were gradual, and climatically-driven. But humans are akin to the virus, not any other life-form.
We blew in, blew up (over populated), and will soon blow out.

Who was it who said, "The Meek shall inherit the earth."

scary...they breed out of control, and then take over...metastisize...just like...cancer.
So, in the end who will win? Human or the Virus?
Regardless of our 'enlightenment'...if we don't stop or at least control the 'meek', humans will breed into nonexistence, the virus, will not.

Dang if that ain't off-subject! Sorry

ofp

jay dawg · October 12, 2005, 03:31:37

Quote from: magicmac2000Stookie: I had just one and a half spontaneous OBE so far so I can't tell you anything about changes after OBEing. But the simple thing of searching through all these things and the continuous practice made a lot of changes in my way of thinking.
First, as knightlight said, I don't take things too seriously.
Second, I lost my fear to "investigate" and find out things by myself. I came from a Christian family, and I still believe in that religion but I'm making questions to myself all the time about it. I started to realize that religions -for me- are not big deal anymore.
Think about this: why am I Christian, and why a Indian is Buddhist ? I think that I'm Christian because I came from a family like that, so I don't question about this. I used to think that "My God" was God and that "My Jesus" was the only one, but why should I be right ? Do I have any proof more than my faith ? Where do my faith come from ?
So, I'm not afraid of trying to be an Explorer, a curious guy anymore. I think -right now, today- that the only important thing is how much love you have and can give. Do I have proof about that ? Nope, that's just my opinion, but I came to that just by myself, even if religions or whoever talk about love, right now I can feel just by myself about that.
So, just to be short and instead of making a boring post, I can tell you that these things made BIG CHANGES in the way I think even if I can't Phase/Project at will yet. I removed a lot of my prejudices and I hear everyone with much more attention.

Magic.

yeah i wish more people were smart enough to figure out why they believe what they believe. i WAS a christian, why? because i was born in america thats why. and that is the only reason why. sadly it is true. same goes for other religions and countries. anyone who cant accept this is not very smart. i sincerely applaud your ability to break free from lies.

jub jub · October 14, 2005, 09:45:03

I've become a more spiritual and open minded person. I'm less interested in material things and I look at people differently than I did before. I see all humans as connected, like siblings. I no longer fear death but look forward to it when the time is right!

Kazbadan · October 14, 2005, 17:39:00

I sense that AP is just the beggining. There is a lot more to discover, a lot more of things that can change your life for good.

greatoutdoors · October 17, 2005, 13:57:02

I don't know that my life has changed because of OBE, but my perceptions and belief system may have. As I explore more and, hopefully, learn more about AP, OBE and things astral, it becomes more clear to me that we aren't necessarily exploring a spiritual "higher plain" at all. We are simply practicing the use of totally natural physical and mental abilities that we all possess.

I'm still looking for a spiritual connection, partly from habit I guess, and partly because, like most humans, I am reluctant to fully accept that this physical life is all there is.

Oilfield Pilot has done some pretty intense work in Lucid Dreaming. I think that ties right in to OBE and AP. It's all pretty much the same thing, just different semantics.

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