I suppose your body is not really asleep - at least not in the sense that required for OBEing. To get asleep you have to get through at least one, brief moment of unconsciousness. It is required for your body to paralyse itself in its own secret way.
If you could keep your consciousness intact through that period you would feel noises and/or body vibrations. In this case you could easily recognise your state and start efforts to separation. However, if you miss that moment you could think that you are still awake.
Thus, I suggest you to check your state regularly, and especially in that moments when you found yourself awakened from a hypnagog attack or brief unconsciousness. You could check your state by refocusing your body awareness into a point just above the top of your head and move that point slowly upward along the axis of your body. This would gently assist you into paralysis provided that you are already close to it.
I can't seem to seperate! How?
Could you elaborate your problem?
Hi Upstream,
Thanks for the advice. I'll try your suggestion.
It's also worth noting that, when I imagine climbing a rope strongly, even when I'm fully conscious I get immediate tingles & vertigo.
If you get nothing, even when in trance, you probably aren't doing it strongly enough - don't just 'go through the motions', really imagine putting some effort in. If you just 'rehearse' the movements of climbing a rope, nothing happens. It's when you really PULL on the rope, when you can feel yourself fighting against your body weight, when you're really making an effort, that Rope gives you the sensations.
I can't get into the trance state reliably enough to do Rope from it. But like I say, even when I'm wide awake I can get SOMETHING with Rope, so you should certainly be able to.
Hi,
Despite all techniques offered in lots of literature I still find little info on what to do when your body is asleep and the mind is still awake. Suppose I use the rope technique at the moment my body sleeps how long do I need to do this? It seems forever and then still nothing happens. At the end I decide to stop because I'm getting bored.. I once OBE'd but this happened when I continued using several visualisation techniques when I finally dozed off. I came in a dream where I still kept trying to OBE and only in that state it worked. This was the only OBE that I ever had which really was great but since I started doing it in a dream i still keep wondering if it was an OBE or a very very vivid dream where I had full control and awareness.
So I'm wondering what kind of state one should be to get to the fibrational states etc. Is it that you should continue to visualize yourself out of body (or something similar) and wait until you start falling almost asleep and THEN 'hope' you'll OBE? Robert's split mind theory
should then suggest that when you want to copy you're consiousness or awareness or.. into the astral body you physical body needs to be asleep or very close to it. Has anybody pratical info on this?