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Quote from: Gummage on June 13, 2014, 16:53:43I read it many places that you can in fact eliminate or reduce the fear of death if you are an astral projector.Are there any experienced projectors that find this is true? how has your outlook on death changed since you have been doing this? are you totally confident that death is just another type of OBE experience?
Quote from: soarin12 on June 13, 2014, 20:12:43Yes, it's true. If I have any fear of death left, it's of suffering prior to death and of dying prematurely because I have a child. When it's my time to go, I will welcome the transition!
Quote from: Xanth on June 13, 2014, 21:34:59Nothing besides your Intent while you pass matters. Absolutely nothing else. Intent is, LITERALLY, everything in consciousness.
Quote from: Xanth on June 13, 2014, 22:46:32LOL I imagine you in real life to be someone who speaks just to hear the sound of their own voice. Intent isn't always consciously set. There isn't an action you take that isn't driven entirely by your Intent.
Quote from: PlasmaAstralProjection on June 14, 2014, 01:19:46LOL actually I don't talk a lot in real life like that though sometimes I can get a bit talkative but it's never out of social acceptance. But even if I did talk like that in real life it doesn't mean I am wrong either. There are just certain things I feel very strongly about. And I obviously have a lot of practical reasons why I believe what I believe. And I guess some people just don't care about practical reasons.
Quote from: catmeow on June 14, 2014, 03:34:07Plasma, you are so totally on the money. Death is rarely a pleasant experience these days. Most people have absolutely no idea what it involves. My father has severe dementia, he literally has a 3 minute memory. He is stone deaf, and can not be taught how to use a hearing aid (he completely forgets within minutes, even if we can get him to understand). Serially incontinent,, with carers needing to clean up faeces from his flat daily. I shalln't go into any more detail, but this is normal for dementia. Anybody who thinks that death is simply getting slowly a bit weaker, and then passing away peacefully in their sleep, doesn't understand the process. I find some attitudes on this board heavily steeped in the naivety of health and relative youth. People untouched by health issues, who say that "we create our own reality", who have never experienced chronic severe pain. People who talk about "intent" who have never experienced the truth of alzheimers. Etc. I read some remarks, from people who still have the luxury of relative good health, and literally laugh at the myopically ill-informed opinions. I am truly not getting at anybody, I had the same naive opinions as those I have just criticised, whilst I still had the luxury of not seeing, knowing, experiencing the truth of failing health. None of us, on this board, actually has the true skills to create our own reality. It's a nice idea, but the truth is different. Try putting a bullet through your knee cap and creating a reality in which your knee is working nicely and you're not in agony. Just think about it. I have a leaflet here on my coffee table from the "Campaign for Dignity in Dying" and I'm going to join up and send some money. I truly wouldn't wish my Father's life on anyone. We wouldn't put a dog through this, and I don't want to go through it either. Plasma, absolutely on the money. Great posts.
Quote from: PlasmaAstralProjection on June 14, 2014, 05:13:23Xanth I got one question for you if you got beat up really badly, and you were in the hospital under a lot of stress, and you were going to die, do you think you can use intent and consciousness to give you a decent death, much less peaceful death? That is what death is about many times. It's about a lot of stress and eventually it leads to breakdown and stress with breakdown can cause a LOT of suffering. Cellular stress when it's aging. So just because you don't see old people with wounds all over doesn't mean they aren't greatly suffering. Many of them don't even have the will or energy to do much of anything. We are talking whole mind and body stress many times when your on your death bed. So please just honestly answer that. Sorry I don't mean to put you on the spot. LOL
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Quote from: Gummage on June 13, 2014, 16:53:43I read it many places that you can in fact eliminate or reduce the fear of death if you are an astral projector.Are there any experienced projectors that find this is true?
Quote from: Gummage on June 13, 2014, 16:53:43how has your outlook on death changed since you have been doing this?
Quote from: Gummage on June 13, 2014, 16:53:43are you totally confident that death is just another type of OBE experience?
Quote from: Maxie on June 14, 2014, 15:47:46 Are people getting caught up in the difference between dying and death? It's not possible to guarantee that dying will be without pain or stress in varying degrees (god, sorry, talking about it so casually!) but I'm still not afraid of death itself, which is what the original poster was asking I think. My reason for not being afraid of dying is because I've been where the dead go and it was a revelation to me, so I have AP to thank for that.