deep sleepers

[lee46]

Hi everyone, I was wondering how do deep sleepers manage to have an OBE, I'm asking this because I'm a really deep sleeper and I think that doesn't help much, but I don't know any ways to become a light sleeper.

One time my mind just couldn't go off the whole OBE thing, it was very active so I couldn't get such a nice sleep and as I've read in some posts of let go the whole thing and just go to sleep normaly, that's what I've been doing, as I'm falling asleep I keep a thought in my mind which is "come back to consciousness" on and off, only one time that kind of worked, I was dreaming and suddenly I heard someone yelling at me "Wake Up!!" a few times until I did, the dream vanished and everything turned black, but as quick as I woke up I fell back asleep. 

Also I have another question on meditation, can you project while you meditate sitting down? I haven't yet mastered meditation, but I do get a really nice sensation after it, realxed and also my mind feels different (as if I was in some kind of drug). If I meditate lying down it is certain that I'll fall asleep.


I would really appreciate your advice as I think this would really help me to achieve an obe.

Have a great day!


Lili

[kurtykurt42]

Also I have another question on meditation, can you project while you meditate sitting down? I haven't yet mastered meditation, but I do get a really nice sensation after it, realxed and also my mind feels different (as if I was in some kind of drug). If I meditate lying down it is certain that I'll fall asleep.

That's how I project. I sit in my favorite chair and meditate for about 60-90 minutes and then project my awareness into one of the spiritual realms or density levels.

[lee46]

thanks for that! then I'll keep trying that way so I wont fall asleep

[kurtykurt42]

I find I do my best after about 4 - 6 hours of waking up.

After I wake up I do my martial arts training and stretching for about an hour. Then I make green tea, have breakfast (usually fruit), shower and relax for about an hour and then spend the next few hours raising my energy and meditating.

While meditating I will push my energy limit to the maximum and raise it as high is it will possibly go. Everyday I try to get to where I was the previous day and then push my energy one step beyond my previous limits. I must warn you though... It's not easy to handle this much power and can be dangerous, so it's best to start out small for the first few years and take easy. 

[lee46]

food actually has an influence?? I've read articles that say you should eat this and that to be successful and on the other hand I've come across articles that say it doesn't matter what you eat.

While meditating I will push my energy limit to the maximum and raise it as high is it will possibly go. Everyday I try to get to where I was the previous day and then push my energy one step beyond my previous limits. I must warn you though... It's not easy to handle this much power and can be dangerous, so it's best to start out small for the first few years and take easy.

how can it be dangerous? like, you can die?? anyway, I'll take it easy, I already enjoy just feeling my body alive and some energy waves at times, mostly when I'm about to sleep.

I still need to figure out how not to be such a deep sleeper, a person could literally jump over me while sleeping and I wont notice it hahaha, quite funny, but not when you're trying to keep consciousness at that time, lol

[kurtykurt42]

Food has a big effect on your body. Eating fresh fruit and vegetables seems to give your body more energy than junk food / meats / dairy. But everyone's different, some people may be able to eat only pizza and drink Pepsi and still astral project. 

It can be dangerous when the energy overwhelms your body at your heart center and it feels like a nuclear bomb is going off in your chest. Then your lower three chakras begin to ache and burn and it feels like your going to die (or pass out). One time, not too long ago I felt the worst pain I have ever felt. It felt as if I got shot in the stomach with a gun. I cried out for help about 50 times and eventually the pain subsided...That one was a doozy. 

[lee46]

It can be dangerous when the energy overwhelms your body at your heart center and it feels like a nuclear bomb is going off in your chest. Then your lower three chakras begin to ache and burn and it feels like your going to die (or pass out). One time, not too long ago I felt the worst pain I have ever felt. It felt as if I got shot in the stomach with a gun. I cried out for help about 50 times and eventually the pain subsided...That one was a doozy.

ouch!! wouldn't like to experience that myself!

[kurtykurt42]

I guess that's the price you have to pay if you want to take it to the next level.

Since that day I have been able to call on that energy I generated and am able to instantly create a 5" - 6" diameter sphere of energy in my heart center. I am then able to flow all of the energy out through my arms into my hands and use my hands to form the energy ball. Once the ball is complete I can then blast it out as a beam of light energy. It was explained to me that this can be used for healing others, levitation / flying, self defense, etc. I am also working on making this energy visible in our dimension.

For this chi energy to manifest into our space/time ratio, it has to acquire our space/time oscillation rate (3rd density). This oscillation seems to actually be a vibration of the energy itself. The energy is then able to interact with our space / time and become observable.

Not sure why I'm telling you all this... Just trying to figure out how it all works I guess! 

[lee46]

lol! it's always good to learn new things, so any piece of information is appreciated 

I am also working on making this energy visible in our dimension

I guess a lot of people would freak out, specially the ones who don't have a clue on the subject, that'd be something fun to watch!! (I don't mean to be evil, is just I enjoy scaring people sometimes, that ain't evil righ? hahaha)

[kurtykurt42]

I wouldn't want people to freak out, I don't think I would use my abilities out in public but I would show individuals privately what we humans are capable of.

They might be afraid at first but I guess it depends on what you're using the energy for. This might be pretty good proof to show that we are more than just our physical bodies. Although, I am not in the habit of going out of my way to show others that don't believe. But I suppose I can show the ones that do believe and are ready to learn. 

[personalreality]

You know, I just posted the other day asking others how long it took them to achieve more control and longer OBEs after they started to have them.  And it just occurred to me that since I had my first OBE I haven't attempted it sitting in a chair.  My old practice (which was never successful) was always to sit in a chair (because I always fell asleep when I laid down) and follow the RB prescription to a T.

Now, the way that I project is by laying down, focusing my mind to a point, and basically falling asleep, then waking up about 15-30 minutes later and projecting from that state.  Maybe that's why I am having difficulty gaining more control and staying out longer, because I'm coming into it straight from sleep.  Perhaps I haven't regained my consciousness well enough yet.

[lee46]

Now, the way that I project is by laying down, focusing my mind to a point, and basically falling asleep, then waking up about 15-30 minutes later and projecting from that state.

That's my main problem, I just don't wake up until the next day

[kurtykurt42]

That could be, I'm pretty terrible at taking control of my consciousness while sleeping. When I am tired or asleep I am just not able to generate enough energy to consciously project to various targets.