Introduction: My Experiences

[wisintel]

Hello,  I just happened apon this forum today while looking for posts about others oobe or astral experience.  I personally have been experiencing oobe since I was probably about 15.  I am looking forward to interacting with the members here sharing experiences and comparing notes.  As my introduction, I would like to share some of my experiences.  I want to share two posts, that I have written up previously.  The first is a compilation of some of my most memorable experiences and the second is a profound trip I had just a few days ago.

1. My first ever experience with being out of body happened I would say when I was about 14. When I say it happened, I mean it happened. I awoke in the middle of the night to find myself standing next to my body. I had been raised in a somewhat devout Christian household and didn't even have the faintest inkling that such a thing was possible. I immediately knew however that I was just out of my body and not dead or anything. I remember thinking how vividly real everything seemed. I kept looking at my hands and legs to convince myself I wasn't dreaming.. you never really seem to be conscious of your hands and legs in dream state.

I remember feeling more alive than I had ever felt before. Even in the OOBE's that I have had since that night I am not sure I have achieved that feeling of clarity and electric consciousness. After getting over the initial shock of being out of my body, I set off to explore. I remember walking down the stair well. I came to the front door and thought to myself I should be able to just walk through it and I did just that. I remember walking outside and it appeared to be a full moon. The light from the moon reflecting off of everything was beautiful. I remember vividly the moonlight reflecting off the white picket fence in the front yard. That point is important to the rest of my story.

I feel like I could go on.. but I have a couple of other experiences I want to put in here and I don't want this post to get too lengthy. So suffice it to say, that I walked up to the end of my street and took to the sky, the rest of the details from that night a little hazy.

The next morning, I was so excited I started telling my family what had happened and of course they all thought I was crazy or just dreaming. I started to believe that maybe it had been just a dream, but it had all seemed soo real. What really threw me for a loop was when I went outside that day and realized that we didn't have a white picket fence in the front yard, we had a beige private panel fence. This detail rectified itself about two years later when I backed my Buick over the private panel fence and my stepdad installed the exact same white picket fence from my OOBE. I can only surmise now looking back that my first experience OOB I somehow managed to travel into the future... which has happened more than once for me since then.

Another experience I had, similar to the first, except I was trying to OOBE at this point. I pop out of my body and am standing next to my bed. I walk downstairs and my stepdad is there, but the house looks totally different. There are also other people there I had never met. The next morning after this experience I was really confused about these other people. This is one of the experiences that made me believe that these all might just be dreams. Until about 7 years later when my stepdad and mom separated and my mom and siblings moved out. My stepdad remarried and those strange people from my OOBE where his new wife and her kids.

I am now 28 years old and have continued to have sporadic conscious OOBE experiences. Some happen when I am trying and some just happen by surprise. I have never been able to OOBE on command, I guess I still have never mastered it. I usually remember having a full experience, but for some reason the next day the details get fuzzy. I remember major events of my trips.. but not the starting or the travelling. There were three other experiences that stand out for me as experiences I should share. They have all happened relatively recently.
First was an OOBE where I went to visit my Grandparents, both are deceased btw. I remember vividly standing in the yard outside their house. Their house in heaven is somewhat like the house they had on earth. My two grandparents and my aunt were both there to visit with me. My mother was there also, though she didn't know she was OOBE, I think she just believed she was dreaming.

Another OOBE I had that really made me a believer in the whole time travel possibility of OOBE... I was visiting my old house. The one I had my first OOBE in. I was walking into the back yard to look at the old tree we have there. It used to support a homemade swing set. My step dad happened to be visiting astrally as well. Again I believe he was unaware he was OOBE. Anyways, we had a nice conversation about forgiveness. I forgave him for what I perceived as mistreatment growing up and he forgave me for neglecting him since I moved away. As he left, my surroundings started to change. I literally was watching time pass. Day shifted into night and into day quickly. I watched the seasons change from summer to fall to winter over and over again. I watched the buildings change. Where there used to be just a cement slab with a basketball hoop, it became a shed and then a garage. A brick wall was build around the house. I watched trees grow and die and get cut down. It was a breathtaking experience and probably one of the most profound I have ever had while OOBE.

The third OOBE of note, I am less sure of. I only remember small bits of it, but it was a profound experience either way. I remember being in a large room overlooking what I can only describe as the pensieve from the Harry Potter stories. There were notes all around on scrolls and pieces of paper. I was with someone and we were reviewing my life up to this point and discussing future events. I remember the person I was with seemed rather impressed with what I had planned for the future. He looked at me and said, "wow that is really something isn't it." I replied, "with all the lives I have lived would you expect anything less?"

2. I just got back from the most amazing astral trip. I thought I would share most of what I can remember from the Journey. I haven't really put much effort into astral travel lately as life has been pretty hectic for me. I had made the decision just yesterday that I was going to start trying again. It seems as though if you are not focused on achieving astral travel it doesn't happen as much.

Well I got out last night and boy was it a trip. My exit for those that are curious came in the middle of the night. I awoke with the full body paralysis and the vibrations. Once I hit the vibratory state getting out for me is like second nature. It's getting to that state that is hard. This time it happened quite by accident. I left my body by rolling over and standing up... walked out of my bedroom, down the stairs and through the front door.

The very first thing I always want to do once I am out of my body is fly. I love it and on this occasion it had been a very long time since I remember flying so with a head turned toward the sky I floated up and over the town I live in. I must have been in the lower astral, because everything looked pretty much like waking reality in the dimly lit twilight before dawn. I flew for some time reminding myself to remember as much detail as I could. This trip was one of my most vivid.

I decided since this trip was lasting so long and was so vivid that I should have a goal while I was out. I decided I wanted to visit my spirit guide and try to get some answers about life. This is usually my goal when I have enough time in the Astral, but I don't usually get much remembered success.

Last night was very different. I turned my attention to my spirit guide and though I didn't consciously know who I was looking for, I turned in flight and headed with purpose in a new direction. I instantly found myself transported to a different city and near the edge of the city I flew through a gateway. A gateway is the best way I can describe it. Going through I came out in a completely different location.

The strangest thing happened when I went through the gateway. My appearance and physical presence changed. I became lighter and thinner. I felt my features change, my limbs were longer and my face felt different. I also remember that the clarity of my vision sharpened. I remember thinking that this must be the body I take when in the spirit world. It was much nicer than the one I have here.

Still on the search for my spirit guide, I found myself floating over what I remember to be the most beautiful water garden. There were giant stones sticking out of a pale blue pond and what seemed be walking trails and benches to sit on. I knew at that point that my guide was near and headed in that direction.

I found myself on a bench with my guide discussing life. While flying and exploring the rock garden I had the wherewithal to remind myself to remember the details, my chat with my spirit guide is a little fuzzy. We talked about life and I remember asking the big questions, what my purpose is and why I chose this life. It's funny, but the more time I spent in that world the less real and important this world began to seem.

The general idea of what I remember from my chat with the spirit guide was that I chose a lifetime at this time, because there were going to be incredible events taking place and I wanted to be present to see them. However, I had also decided to conquer some pretty tough challenges in this life and if I didn't make enough progress I might not make it through the troubled times that lie ahead.

After my talk with my guide, he took me to speak with some higher entities. In my memory of what happened, I called them the Directors, since they were in charge of the events that take place here on Earth. I remember being in very good spirits when I went to see them so I believe my progress towards my goals here is going well. When I went to see the Directors, there were three or four of them gathered in this building. I would describe this building, but my memory of it doesn't seem to make physical sense. There were pillars, staircases and walkways. As much of the building was inside there was just as much building outside or outside areas where people could gather.

I remember the beginning of my conversation with the Directors pretty vividly. I mainly spoke with what I would consider the leader of the small group, though I exchanged pleasantries with everyone. I remember he was a jovial and somewhat humorously wise guy. You know the kind of person that answers your questions with a question and chuckles at your struggles to find meaning in all the questions. He started asking me about the life I was currently living and what I thought about my accomplishments so far. I remember not feeling as though I had accomplished as much as I could have with the time I had been given and I started citing the restrictions I had placed upon myself that had hindered me.

What he told me next seems pretty profound to me. I guess you could take it as a prophecy but I may have misinterpreted the meaning. I remember very vividly him telling me that there was going to be somewhat of a golden age on earth. However, before that time there was going to be immense difficulties and only a portion of the current population was going to make it through. He told me that I hadn't as of yet done enough to warrant making the cut and it wasn't at all sure yet that I was going to be in that portion of the population that made it. Basically whether I made it or not was predicated on how far along I was on accomplishing the goals I had set for myself.

We talked a short while longer after that revelation, but I don't recall much of what was said. On my way back to the gateway I came across my younger brother. He was visiting as well. I hadn't seen him in a while in the real world and we hugged. He followed me back to the gateway as he was on his way out as well and as we passed through he was gone.

Passing through the gateway, I found myself back in the strange city I was in when I entered. I found it immensely reassuring that the city hadn't changed. To me the continuity of the experience confirmed how real it was. However, the relief I found in continuity was short lived when I tried to take flight again. For some reason I didn't have the energy to lift off from the ground. That has happened to me in the past. I realized I was in a strange city in what could only be the lowest astral plane, because things began to look dark and ominous. I closed my eyes and decided I would just will myself back into my body. As much as I thought about it and willed myself, nothing happened. I started wondering to myself if I had ended up in a dream, but when I tried to wake myself up nothing happened.

I was scared that I had lost control and might have been stuck in the lower astral. However, looking back I think the reason I couldn't leave is because I wasn't completely done with what I needed to do there. Just at the point when I started to get worried, an entity came up and put a reassuring hand on my shoulder. At first this entity appeared to me as a small child then took the shape of an adult. I am not sure how I know, but I came to realize that this child was my step father's first child by another woman that had died at a really young age. This child took me to see my step father's guide.

To add a hint of a much needed backstory, my stepfather was pretty much the bane of my childhood. To me he was an awful man who treated me, my mother and often times my other siblings pretty horribly. When I was 17 I moved out of the house and pretty much never looked back. I came and went for a few years and then shortly thereafter I left the state.

The conversation I had with my stepfathers guide, enlightened me to what a somewhat terrible life my stepfather had lived. With the loss of his first child he lived the rest of his life in a constant state of fear that he would lose his family, which eventually happened. She told me that my leaving had devastated him. We talked a bit longer about my stepfather and then had a short conversation about the directors and the talk that I had with them. She advised me to go back and talk with them again as she was pretty sure I was confused about what they had told me.

In thinking about the building where I had found the Director's previously, I found myself standing in front of it again. I made my way inside to where I knew them to be and found that I was somewhat interrupting something else that was going on at this time. They were kind enough at my interruption and acknowledged me. I remember explaining that I was sent back by, I think her name was Barbara my step dad's guide and that I wanted clarification on what we had talked about previously. As the main director began to speak I found myself pulled back into my body and awakened.

While I remember the vivid detail that existed during my time there, my memory of the detail is fuzzy. Other than the times I specifically made conscious mental notes towards remembering some of the details are lost to me. I feel as though I was in this other place for at least a few hours, but I don't have a full recollection of what I did there, or a full recollection of what my guide said to me or even what he looked like. This is however, by far, the longest lasting and most detailed Astral trip I have ever taken and I thought I would share it. Any thoughts or comments are appreciated.

Sorry for the length, I just wanted to put as much in as I could.

[Bedeekin]

Hi Wisintel.

That's pretty neat stuff there.

I've had a few experiences that seemed to be projections into the future... here's one involving my girlfriend.

20/11/95
02:15am
I was lying in my front room. I phased into an OOBE and found myself floating sideways across the doorway to the room I was lying in. The sliding door to the room was halfway open. As I approached the opening of the door, (again sideways) I noted that there were red glittery sparkly things to the right of my view and the sun appeared to be shining on the wall against the fireplace. As I slowly glided sideways and saw Kathryn sitting on the sofa that I was supposed to be on. She had what appeared to be a cup of coffee in her hand. She suddenly looked at me and her face grew ashen. She said "Ben?" and leaned over to her left to do something that was blocked from my view by the edge of sliding door..... I exited the OOBE before I saw why she was leaning over... I phased back to normal.

This OOBE confused me at first because I was supposed to be lying on the sofa, but in the experience Kathryn was sitting there instead and it wasn't supposed to be daytime, I was having the OOBE at about two o'clock in the morning.

I asked Kathryn if she had she ever seen me in the OOBE state outside the front room door, she replied no. I suggested that she kept a lookout for me at some point. It was soon forgotten about and I had put it down to a false OOBE, even though it was a  perfect conscious one. It seemed correct save for the fact it was the wrong time of day and I was replaced with my girlfriend.
Three weeks later approaching Christmas, Kathryn and myself were sitting in the same front room. It was a sunny Saturday morning, the sun was shining and Saturday morning television was on. Kath suddenly said "Ben?" and she leaned over towards me at the other end of the sofa shaking my leg.
   "I've just seen a bonking ghost!" I looked at her,  she was pale and she had a cup of orange juice.
   I asked "Where?"
   "outside the door, it just floated past the door... like smoke."

[Astral316]

You gotta tell me your secret for the hours-long projection, dayumn. A ton of substance in your most recent experiences there, fascinating read... keep'm coming.

[earthrooster]

That was fascinating...could read hours of peoples experiences...would love to have mine..working on it..

Cheers
ER

[Pritchmr]

That is awesome. Love reading about this stuff it inspires me. Thank you for sharing.

[Under_the_Midnight_Sun]

wisintel, very interesting experience. You're right, it can be quite frightening when the entry back into the physical isn't as easy as usual. I never really thought about it like that.. that one "isn't completely done with what needs to be done".

[Timandra]

That's a long but very interesting read! Thanks for sharing. 

[cyborg]

Awesome experiences wisintel.

Bedeekin's was interesting too.

[Greytraveller]

Hallo wisintel
Your extended journeys out of body are impressive. So is your recall of the events. Many people cannot remain out of body very long. Many other people, myself included, can manage long extended OBEs on occasion but are unable to recall most of the events and details of the experience.
I am curious if any of your family have come to terms with your ability to go out of body and accept your OBEs as genuine experiences?? Or do they still think that you are only dreaming?

Regards 
Grey

[wisintel]

I just wanted to thank everyone for the positive feedback and comments.  It's nice to share my experiences with people who understand and appreciate them.  I also wanted to take a moment to address some of the questions that were raised or mentioned.  I would love to get a discussion going.

A couple people have commented on the length and detail in my experiences.  These experiences that I posted are rare. I have had several of the variety that are either really short or fuzzy.  Sometimes it even surprises me I have been at this for almost 15 years now and really actively trying for 5 or 6.  In the experiences that I have posted with the most recall and time spent I was very focused.  I don't get overly excited when this happens anymore, I think keeping calm helps both with clarity and duration.  I also use affirmations like "clarity now" and "I will remember this"... those work really well.  I've finally gotten to the point were using the affirmations and focusing on details to prolong the experience are like a reflex.
The most recent experience that happened was very rare.  I felt like was oob for hours upon hours.  I don't remember everything that happened, but I remember enough detail that the whole experience has a linear flow.  It wasn't choppy at all I remember how I got to and from most places.   I do remember being very determined that I was going to get answers... I think that focus helped a great deal.

Finally to answer Grey, I have told some of my family.  My wife thinks it is just my overactive brain giving me vivid dreams.  My mom believes that I have some form of gift... but she is very Christian and isn't sure what to make of it....  I do have a psychic great aunt who my mom has told and who really wants to meet me.  We have never met, but she totally believes me.  I am planning on going home in the near future and hopefully will get to talk with her.  Other than that and message boards I keep to myself.  Sometimes the topic comes up in conversations with friends when we start talking about dreams... but I don't thing anyone believes that I am having anything more than vivid dreams.

O just one other note of confirmation.... I did find out that my step dad lost a baby before he married my mom.  So that part of my last experience was completely accurate.

[Summerlander]

Wow! Nice! And getting accurate details doesn't surprise me. Here-Now projections can get you info that you previously didn't know or it appears to do so. Likewise, metaphysical projections can do the same. I highly suspect that in the latter, one is able to peruse the minds of others and see representations of their thoughts (this includes dreams, memories, imagination and even slightly inaccurate versions of what they are doing in the physical - because our subconscious is aware of everything we do). Both types of OOBEs can overlapped too or they seem to do so sometimes. I have had some experiences that seem to display telepathy, particularly where "visits" to others are concerned. Furthermore, I also think OOBEs and dreams have the potential to be both retro-cognitive and precognitive. Data can be access from both personal and collective levels. Through my own observations, I have found that the phase (OOBEs/Astral Projection/Lucid Dreaming/even Dreaming) can be quite revealling. There are clearly different states of consciousness here but we are dealing with the mind (personal and collective) in my opinion. There are different cognitive modalities, sure...but it is THE PHASE.

[Greytraveller]

Hi wisintel
Yes, affirmations Do work. I repeat several affirmations each night before sleep. Included are --
"I will induce and recognize an OBE tonight",
I will remember one or more dreams tonight" and "
"I will recognize an incongruity in the next dream".
Of course these do not work every night yet they work enough to constantly use them.

About having LOOoong OBEs  . Having only a relatively few long projections and many short OBEs is actually the norm. That includes myself too. And yet I cannot figure why some OBEs last hours and many projections only last minutes??

For what its worth I would suggest talking to your great aunt. Actually having a physical person to talk to for support is VERY valuable. Posting on an internet forum is nice but can't compete with actually talking to someone face to face.

Regards 
Grey