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Tetsujin

Hello everyone, this is my first post, happy to be here with you.

I have a "cosmology"-related question. Please, do not be too much concerned with the nomenclature that I use.

Its is said that there are many planes of existence. Basically, we can generalize by saying that those planes of existence are divided into the 3 main "categories":

1- The material realm: Composed of comparatively dense, slowly vibrating matter and energies.

2- The astral realm: A place with regions, places, kingdoms, countries, planets, and a vast variety of inhabitants. Its matter is more malleable that material matter.

3- The celestial realm: A formless world, consisting of pure consciousness. The inhabitants of these realms are possessed entirely of mind and have neither shape.

So my questions...

Question 1: When people experience an OBE and go around their house or the moon or Saturn, in which "realm" is this?

Question 2: When people die, in which "realm" do they go to?

Thank you for your time

Stillwater

I would suggest that 2- and 3- might be one in the same, just viewed through different lenses. If you are differentiating 2- from 3- on the basis that things in 3 lack shape, I think that may be true of projection experiences in general.

1 is only a major category from our perspective I surmise; from what I can tell, our physical world we share is only one of many simulated worlds, some governed by similar rules, and some a bit different.

I think that should answer question 1 pretty well.

For question 2... I think there may be many answers, but I don't know for sure... I don't remember the last time I died, although some here might. A few of us here have encountered the dead in projections, but because that environment lacks time or space constraints, it is hard to say what experience they had first. I am blessed to have most of the people I care about still here on this plane, so I haven't someone close to talk to about the matter yet.

"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

Xanth

Quote from: Tetsujin on May 28, 2014, 18:35:46
Its is said that there are many planes of existence.
Don't believe everything you read.  :)

QuoteBasically, we can generalize by saying that those planes of existence are divided into the 3 main "categories":
Let me give you my perspective... and, as I said above, don't believe it... but, don't disbelieve it either.  Wait until you have your own experiences to confirm or deny it for yourself.

My perspective is that there aren't any neat & clean separations in consciousness.  ALL is consciousness.
This is going to sound strange, but this physical reality you're experiencing right now is nothing but just another non-physical (astral) reality.  This means that you're projecting your consciousness "here" in the same way which you project your consciousness into any other reality and have a "projection".

Now, read that over a few times and allow the information to sink in a bit.  Then think about how it relates to your "life" and possibly your "death" too.