couple of phasing questions

[Tombo]

Hi

-Is there any specific time of the day when one should approach phasing?
I mean, for WILD it is usually in the morning or Nap-time, so basically whenever one is close to REM-Sleep. Is this true for Phasing as well? Is it possible to phase before sleep in the evening?

-How can I shift from Focus 2 (lets say a LD) into Focus 4?

-There are two words a have a hard time understanding and I would be happy if anyone could help me out and explain them (again), because I think they are vital to understand.
I'm talking about objective vs. subjective

-Why do vibrations prelude a traditional OBE but not WILD/Phasing?

Thanks Tom

[Tombo]

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[Tombo]

Since Nobody is answering my questions I'm gonna talk a little to myself

Nostic wrote:(somewhere else.....)

An objective world is a world that appears to exist separate from you. A subjective world however responds to your thoughts, feelings and beliefs.

... just to be even more clear:
Objective - independent of your personal beliefs or feelings.
Subjective - dependent upon your personal beliefs or feelings.

I'm not satisfied with that, although I understand what you mean.

I don't think the physical world is completely independent from my feelings and thoughts, maybe it just reacts slower and less obvious? Your remark suggests that for example Telekinesis is hokum. But we don't have to look so far, it is pretty much proven that our believes affect out health (physical Body) not only that but your thoughts control the movements of your Body.

Secondly it is problematic to assume that there is a real physical world outside of our perception. All that you can be sure of, is the fact that there appears to be a physical world in your head based on your perceptions.
So maybe you meant: The perception of the Astral is dependent whilst the perception of the physical world is independent of us. But this physical world in your head is not at all independent of your thoughts. (one may look at the clouds and see a Butterfly one may just see water vapor)
The people may do the exact same hike but if they compare notes after wards they will discover that their experiences differed greatly.

Isn't that the same situation as in the Astral just less bold?

Or if we look at it from the other side. Is the Astral truly subjective?
No. Two People meet astrally and remember exact the same conversation.
This means that part of their experience was not based on thoughts, feelings and beliefs because the two people have not the same thoughts, feelings and beliefs but still the experience contains similar elements. An Astral experience therefore contains objective elements.

Or Frank says: Focus 4 has such an such qualities which everybody going there will experience.

Wouldn't it be more correct to just say that the physical world appears less dependent to our thoughts, feelings and beliefs compared to the other Focus levels, instead of making absolute statements?


I don't wanna overanalyse things but since we stand at the verge of a new science (quote Frank) it is probably a good time to think critically about terms before they get widely accepted.

Tom

[MoneyAddyct]

Where can I findan FAQ on the basics of phasing?